Mr. Neville is completely right..... we can 't forget they played city and chelsea.... that's not bournemouth and West ham.... can give unay much more time
neopromise I mean I’m not an Arsenal supporter but they could have scored four or five at Chelsea. So although they didn’t defend well the chances were there, just poor finishing in the final third.
You can't forget the past experience of Unai Emery. Although he got the objectives in Sevilla and Valencia, his teams never played that well. I don't think he is a manager of the caliber of an Arsenal like he wasn't a manager for PSG.
Daniel Stenner chelsea coulda also scored 5 or 6 goals so you not making sense, they were only good for 15 mins n that was bc of chelsea systemic failure
Neville is a genius, as an Arsenal fan I completely agree with him. I think Carragher was being misunderstood though, Jamie is just insisting that Emery adjust mid game to avoid dropping points. They both made good points here, love them together.
Exactly. Nevilles basically saying that you cant build a team overnight and when you have your mind set on a tactic you adapt the team to the method rather than the other way round however like Jamie said that can be risky and you end up losing games for being stubborn. You should both adapt your players to your method but also in the early stages you adapt your method to suit the moment otherwise you end up using the wrong tactics every game.
Carragher is right though aswell hes pointing out the hypocrisy that everyone slagged wenger off for only having a plan A for 20 odd years. Theyre both right
tsonny1104 I love watching my club Arsenal now man, the way they play out the back is just beautiful and slowly but surely we will be back to challenging for title next year and the champions league in a few. EMERYBALL
Galva Tron you don’t know the difference between a manager and a pundit you dummy, if you actually listen to him he’s speaking about some really good things and factual things about how the arsenal manager is tactically thinking and actually speaking some good facts
Yaseen Alkhazali people don’t realise the difference between knowing what you’re talking about and being a good pundit, in comparison to implementing said things as a manager at a club
The pitch of their voices went higher as things got more heated.. This is *hilarious* and both make valid points but I side more with what *Neville* said over *Carragher*
100% with Gary. The players at utd dont respect Jose Mourinho. Thats why they are playing poor football. The amount of respect City players have for Pep is shown on the pitch. The way they push themselves on being the best everytime they step on the pitch. It’s about respect and fear of losing. The Arsenal players had a “softie” for all those years playing under Wenger. They dont know how to fear their manager. It is Emery’s job to get them to that point now!
There's obviously no bond between the players and the manager you always see Pep and Klopp hugging there players and encouraging players but Mourinho doesn't seem to care
You need a bond to do that...be tough but at the same time show that you care...like pep and klopp did...if you acting tough all the time, like mourinho, player will walk over you...player can boycott and protest like chelsea players did to mourinho...and board will fire you as its easier to replace a manager than some stars of the team
Niclas Johannesen Yes you’re right. Mourinho doesn’t completely understand the strenght of his players. He never really had a great way of managing his teams, looking at Inter and Real Madrid for example. He implemented defensive football into teams that played “pretty” football. He won titles in the past with his way of playing by forcing his style of football on the team. The problem with that is if you say the things he’s saying about his players, being an arrogant man (which he absolutely is) and being a manager that doesn’t care for the club he’s being paid by to win, you lose respect that you should earn by both players and staff. If you remember, he talked about a few times he beat UTD in the past after the loss against Sevilla. Is that a manager the players and staff should respect? Both UTD and City spent a crapload of money on players. The difference is that Pep knows what type of players he needs to strenghten his squad with. With Mourinho it seems like he’s willing to buy any decent looking player he sees. Why did UTD need Alexis? It almost seems like he’s lost the plot. No player should have to respect him.
The most important sentence in this debate: 3:47 "Guardiola, Klopp and Pochettino don't have a Plan B, they make Plan A better" which could be translated into "I fear not the team that has practiced several styles of football once, but I fear the team that has practiced one style of football 10,000 times."
Sebastian Koil but it’s not accurate with Pep. He absolutely has a plan B & more. Play back 4, back 3. FB’s that hug touch line or tuck into midfield & play narrow. Now they’ve played with 1 WB on the touch line & the other narrow. False 9, 1 or 2 strikers......
@REDZER_14 that game won't matter. Liverpool should be ashamed if they lose to Arsenal. Neville was right no matter where Arsenal is at the end of the season. Arsenal are vastly improved over last season.
Gary Neville is so right. Unai Emery is building a team, squad, for long term, not this season. He has a philosophy of how he wants to play. If the current players can't play from the back, he will bring in players that can. Like Pep Guardiola did at Man City. He's giving Ozil a chance, but he won't be there if he don't deliver. Ozil is quality, but he doesn't show it consistantly. The Arsenal defenders aren't up to the task, even some he brought in. The midfield and forwards are decent. Bernd Leno will be first choice soon, as he wasn't brought in to sit on the bench. I think Arsenal will get it right long term, but this season will be a learning curve, as the manager looks at what he has and strives to improve them or ship them out. Only next season will the team, squad reflect the manager.
Problem is who wants to go to arsenal. I agree in theory that he should stay the course but their not even the biggest club in the city they call home so recruiting good footballers to play his brand of football may be tough. The only fact they have decent players is they dont mind paying their players ridiculous amounts of money. Theres nothing wrong with that but sometimes a player might not care for the club and just see it as a payday which can be dangerous. I believe Man U is guilty of the same thing but at least they can bring in some good guys cause their Man U but maybe thats run it course. The point is if they ain't winning games itll be hard for players to care about the club and harder to bring in guys qualified to play for one of the biggest clubs in the best league in the world. So maybe tweaking your game plan around what you got may be best. After all he just got there and how are you going to gain any respect if you aren't winning. How long until the fans and players turn on you because of lack of results. P.s. Only thing Gray learnt at Valencia is that he cant coach at all. Good luck finding another coaching job after that 10-7-11 record. Thats pretty bad for a top six team in a league where more than half the teams its plays suck.
Well said mate. Ozil’s quality but he doesn’t have the support. Imagine Man City only having Silva, no De Bruyne, no Auguero, no sane, no Fernandinho, Silva would struggle too. It’s a team game and Arsenal’s team doesn’t match up.
100% agree with you. I mean, look what happened to Ferguson thirty years ago. He had a vision for United and it took a few seasons for him to develop the club to what he wanted it to be. The important thing is, the United board gave him time. Look what patience gave United in the long run.
Good on ya, Sportster Steve. If this comment shows up in your notifications, know that you were right :P Also, I agree with Gary. As a manager, you've got to put your system in place and if the players don't fit in, give THEM a chance to adapt. If they do, jolly good. If they don't; out you go, mate.
JHunny x no he isn’t. Neville is saying that the manager should not adapt no matter what even when you don’t have the players to fit your system. That will not work out great for arsenal. Ask frank de boer what happened when he tried to force his system onto his players instead of adapting at Crystal Palace
Keita and Fabinho Apologist he does state that he is still working out what players do and do not fit his system so if he keeps changing it he will never work it out and know what players to get rid of and what to bring in
They're both wrong. That Arsenal team has some decent individual talent, but they're limited in the type of football they can play. As a Liverpool fan- you can maybe make a 10% difference to a limited squad with the right manager, but you need to bring in new players to act as the catalyst for change. Man City was the same in Pep's first season (albeit with a better squad but similar concept). If you put Klopp/Pep in charge of that Arsenal team this season they'd find it tough to finish 4th this season... that's just what the squad is right now.
@Aiki Hanley Why? I've never heard two old girls have an intense debate about football. Im assuming you have one of those paper thin senses of humour that sees someone blowing rasberries as next level comedy
I don't even know how this is an argument after seeing Klopp transform liverpool from has-beens to champions league challengers. He did not adapt - he stuck to his methods and weeded out the players that couldn't hack it, bringing in new ones that could. Emery should be given 3 years minimum to build the side he wants to build. That's what he was brought in for. Anyone can just 'adapt' but that will only get you so far
Dreadnought it’s an argument because carragher is talking about in this season. In klopps first season he didn’t adapt and because he didn’t have the players that were good enough for his system he finished 8th. But now that he has the players he wants he will be challenging for the title and trophies. Now that emery doesn’t have the players he wants right now he needs to adapt to what they’re good at instead of forcing them to do things that they’re just not good at
@@eldio2124 if he does adapt he'll lose his principles and philosophy, Guardiola they asked him to adapt and to think it through but he refused no matter what. Look whether you have players or not you can never change your principles, it's like giving up on who you are. Once you do that you can never get them back. If he adapt now he can never know what players are suited for his system and who are not which he can never decide who to bring in the place of who. Life isn't perfect you can't build a team without a sacrifice and the previous and next losses are the price.
@@khaliladam9952 I agree to a certain extent but if he does not adapt to the opposition, there is a huge risk. The risk is they will lose points and might finish out of the top 6 if Emery is too stubborn in his ways THIS SEASON and then key players and their agents might try to force a move out of the club. The reason Klopp is successful because he invested well from the money he got from sales of key players.
Keita and Fabinho Apologist Emery STILL doesn't know if he has the players he wants. He is finding out and while doing that a manager should not adapt because then he will never find out.
But we had areas that needed addressing and like Pep Guardiola, Klopp's brought in top quality centre-half and a goalkeeper spending a wedge of serious cash to try and address the problems and make us to be trophy winners.
Have to agree with G. Nev, give him time. They were stuck with the same manager for ages, you get a new gaffer and expect him to deliver the title off a not so good team? This is football not ping pong. Glad to have this duo back on the screens too. Always nice listening to the both of them.
When did Carragher said Emery have to deliver the title in his first season? He even said Arsenal shouldn't fire Emery in his first season. Carragher's point is simple. Right now for the system that Emery wants Arsenal to play, they dont have the right players to do it. He is asking Emery to adapt - not by hoofing it up the field everytime, but to do it like Chelsea, Liverpool and City do. When they are under pressure and the goalkeeper and defenders looked uncomfortable after a series of errors, why not kick it up the field in between the lines (the space between the forwards and midfielders cos there will be gaps there if the opposition keep on pressing them). That is his point. Adapt to the opposition. Dont be too pragmatic on your approach.
@@nyamarungujr7834 was going to answer your question but since it came with an emoji like that, I'll actually leave you to understand my comment the way you want to.
The thing is they're both arguing for two different things. Carra was arguing that Emery should adapt to the game or the opposition, while Nev was arguing that Emery should not adapt to the players' comfort zone. Both of which is not wrong.
It's funny because Guardiola says the opposite. Guardiola says that the manager has to adapt to the specific skills of the players. Maybe he doesn't mean the basics though.
when Bayern played Real Madrid in the 2014 champions league semi-final the players told Guardiola to let the team have control over the tactics. Guardiola complied and they went on to lose 0-4. I agree with Neville here. the players have to adapt to the manager's philosophy and not the other way round. the team then has to gain trust towards their manager in order to execute it properly, but all of this needs time. I couldn't care less about Arsenal, but Emery is a top manager and he should be given enough time to implement his philosophy.
mazincool555 it was all over german media in 2014. Schweinsteiger and the players approached Guardiola and asked him to play with two CDMs as they did in the treble season with Heynckes which obviously turned out to be perfect for Bayern in this period. Robben later admitted that this conversation between the players and Guardiola did in fact take place and if you saw the game it was obvious that they actually played with two CDMs.
And that's why pep was happy to leave bayern. Too many players trying to run the team there and don't realize their time is up and let coman and Douglas Costa take over.
Real madrid scored the first two goals from headers and match was over as then Bayern had to score 4 to win the match. Having 2 CDMs actually helps Bayern to defend those set pieces. Pep in his book just tried to divert the attention that his philosophy gets destroyed against a dangerous counter attacking team who has some serious pace up front.
Neville talks sense and methodically, whereas Carragher’s punditry style is that of an armchair occasional footy spectator at best! Love listening to Neville and this is coming from a Liverpool supporter.
Someone should remind Carragher that the entire Country used to bash and critisice Pep for playing it out from the back and dropping Hart. He allmost missed out on a top 4 finish in his first Season and won 0 trophies. It took Pep 3 Transfer Windows before his Team started to dominate so how do People expect Emery to Change Things for the better after 6 weeks when you consider his low Budget that he had and the fact that he has to rebuild an unbalanced squad that he inherited? Chelsea have spent more on a Goalkeeper than what Arsenal did to rebuild the entire squad eventhough Chelsea allready had the better Team before the Transfer window opened. I am a Coach as well (Ameteur Football) but Garry is absolutly spot on, you have to stick to your philosophy and be rutheless otherwise the Players will feel it and jump all over you
Except that Pep has absolutely adapted to current City team. Letting players walk all over you is a different thing. What Carragher is saying is that Emery should adapt to try and bring out the best out of the players he has. Doesn't mean he shouldn't drop Ozil. It just means don't try to make players do things they can't. If half the squad you have don't play football the way you want them to. You can't chuck all of them out. No coach gets that liberty. Neville is right. But refusing to adapt is incredibly arrogant. Emery already caved in at PSG. At Arsenal, he doesn't need to do that. But he needs to understand that some of his tactics will probably not work well enough.
He is too stubborn here and should listen to carragher. What he is saying is right but we all know emery won't get quality players to play from the back given how much players cost now so he must adapt or struggle like wenger
Antares Emery can't get quality players at the back? Says who exactly? This is Arsenal we are talking about....not AFC Fylde. He's been there just over a couple months...🤣🤣🤣 and here is you.....a non football manager advising him to adapt. On what basis exactly? Because you saw a video of Jamie Carragher and figured you would try and verbally suck him off in agreement 🤣🤣🤣 give it a rest lol Last time I checked......Arsenal have money and an ideal location that is hugely attractive to potential players so I massively disagree (please note....I don't like Arsenal and I'm not from London either) so I'm absolutely unbiased towards them. Facts are facts! Arsenal signed Mustafi (after he was a world cup winner) albeit under Wenger and last time I checked.....Unai Emery convinced Neymar into joining PSG so I doubt he "couldn't" attract a top defender who plays out from the back 🙄 As long as Arsenal have money and are willing to spend it and not hold back.....they can sign top players (even ones that can play out from the back) that's a promise.
Carragher making the most sense in this exchange, although Neville's point about keeping a consistent message is right. The message shouldn't be 'we stick with the system regardless though' it should be 'I as manager will pick the players capable of playing the best system to win against the opposition team this week'. Trying to make players play to a system they are incapable of achieving just means losing a lot. The system should make the most of what you actually have available at that time.
Neville is right 100%. Just look at Chelsea under their first year with Conte. The first games they played a back 4 as Conte "adapted" to their style. They struggled in the first games and their lost to Arsenal was when Conte said "We are doing it my way" with a back 3. They won the league at the end of the season
@@hlenaspace8251 clearly doesn't understand. Having less matches helped them fitness wise yes but his tactic revolutionised the prem that year, how many team copied his formation? 10+? All this aside, he still did it his way and won the league. Which very few managers can replicate.
Kshitij Agrawal in Chelsea they have a transfer committee that decides the the transfers not the managers. If you remember a year back when they sold Matic Conte was angry as f... He got sacked partly because a bad season but also because he was in a open conflict with the management of Chelsea already a year ago.
Hell Nah Carracock is a divvy lad. About should've taken it to Valencia....🤣🤣🤣 Should've implemented it at Liverpool when he was playing.....maybe he'd have a Premier League winners medal instead of dribbling looking at G Nev's collection of them 🤣🤣🤣
gary is completely correct, as ian wright said; wenger’s influence is all over the club, you can’t expect emery to come in and reform the club the way he wants in 5-6 weeks
This is a misunderstanding over the meaning of the word adapt. Adapt can mean an entirely different style but it can also mean a more subtle change. Neville is assuming a radical change and says players will get confused, and he’s right. Carra is implying a more subtle change but using the same word and he’s also right. Therein lies the misunderstanding between the two.
Neville's such a knob... 0:17 "It's ignorant to suggest he (Emery) has to adapt" and 0:35 "the players have to adapt to him" six minutes later... 6:40 "We have to adapt as coaches, not the players"
The pragmatic (Carragher) vs the Dogmatic (Neville). Interesting debate but I agree with Neville. The beautiful game, ideas and tactic are better than getting results no matter what.
Not changing tactics as a coach as one thing. But being too stubborn to drop your high line while still playing Mustafi is another. Not having the tools to implement your tactics is different than adapting
Armando Sanchez I think a good example to look at is City last season. Pep didn’t adapt his ideas to the City squad last season and we suffered for it. Our fullbacks (Zaba/Clichy/Sagna/Kolarov) weren’t built to play like Pep demands, going forward into attacking areas while having the pace to recover and not leave the defense gaping. However, he still demanded it from them. Now, plug in Walker/Mendy/Danilo/Delph into the fullback positions and the team shatters records and wins the league. I think Gary is spot on in his argument. Not once did City start playing long balls last season because our fullbacks and Bravo couldn’t do what Pep demanded, and the difference it makes is once you bring in the right pieces, the rest of the team already knows how the manager wants to play
Just got into fotball a few years ago after a life long watch of my best friend's love for Liverpool. These to gentlemen are fantastic. The dynamics and mutual respect combined with the banter is pure gold.
Emery is a great appointment. I don’t necessarily think some of these players are sound enough to fit Emery’s style, but that’s where Neville has it right! He’ll try to coach the players into it, if they can’t hack it, then they go elsewhere.
Gary Neville is right. But he has the 90's/2000's mindset. Basketball, Football, Baseball. Players sign short contracts and managers get released. There is no loyalty like back then. Perform pr get cut.
Man City, Chelsea and United are like this. Don't perform your out. But it has worked for City and Chelsea. They won 3 titles each in the last 10 years and United 4 titles.
Gary is absolutely right here. Managers in big teams should never change their core strategies. The players should adapt to the manager and if they can't, the club must bring in new players who can.
RonancPower 12 I think Carragher is just trying to cause debate otherwise if they both agree it would make the debate boring. Bt I agree with Neville 100% and I’m a Liverpool fan
Well said Gary, one of the few articulate player turned pundits out there, don't really know what Carra's on about here, surely the first year Emery should be given the time to implement and instill his ideas. The last thing you want is him to adapt and start playing long balls. Leave that to big sam
What Carra is saying is if during a game his tactics or style of play isn't working then adjust & play a little different... Remember if you play the same every game for the full 90 mins eventually teams will know what you're going to do & ADJUST to win & get the points... Fergie was a genius at what Carra is getting at mate
The thing is none of them are wrong, they are just talking about different facets of coaching. What Jamie means is Emery should ADAPT his GAME-PLAN to teams he plays, use personnel accordingly and delegate instructions and roles accordingly *TO WHAT HE HAS DECIDED, NOT WHAT THE PLAYERS DECIDE OR BENDING HIS WILL TO PLAYERS* What Gary means is Emery should not ADAPT his PHILOSOPHY/MASTER PLAN to the players because certain players REFUSE/MOAN or aren't cut out to play the way he wishes. Gary believes the moment he starts compromising his philosophy for PLAYERS (Different from tuning your base philosophy to suit game-day opposition), *YOU HAVE LOST THE PLOT* Frankly, i think these two guys just like to argue cause its fun or "juicy". They are on the same team but both of them are colour blind.
Finally someone with logic and a brain. Philosophy (Neville) and tactics (Carragher) are entirely different subjects. If a game plan isn't working you change the tactics up, that doesn't necessarily mean sacrificing the philosophy. Philosophy is essentially the "personality" of the team, the chemistry, the cohesive way a team plays, the way the body of the team expands and contracts on the pitch, passes, plays, chemistry et all. That being said, players should always always be accommodating the manager and coaching staff, not the other way around.
I'd agree with Jamie maybe a few years back but after watching football for years, I think having a philosophy is of utmost importance. It doesn't only shape the club on the pitch but off the pitch as well, that includes the structure, the youth team, the PR people etc. Having no identity is dangerous. Maybe Emery could have got a draw or a narrow win if he put 11 behind the ball but then he'd be undoing all the work Wenger has done. Many coaches have won trophies but only the elite ones build empires and change the club.
And yet players would still rather play for them than the team who - according to their fans - won "three trophies" in Mourniho's first season (including the might Charity Sheild)..
Both Carra and Nev are right in their own way. Neville says that each team must have a set philosophy, which is coached by the manager. But Carra makes a good point when he says, a coach should be able to manage his team depending on the opposition. For example: if Man City go head to head with Liverpool they might get absolutely destroyed (which already happened once last year), but if they park the bus ,they might have a prayer. This is called managing a particular match based on the opposition. Mourinho is arguably one of the best at this.
If that is the logic then where is Mourinho's strength in team? Keep adapting everytime? Shouldn't they have a strength of their own? Is adapting their only strength? Don't they have nothing of their own?.. That's why mourinho never lasts anywhere longer than 3 seasons.. And that's why pep is the best coz his philosophy is to play with the ball not without it
i agree. you don't go head to head with city, only if you are real, barca or psg, as their teams are as good or even better, but the fact is that spurs, united, liverpool, arsenal, and chelsea are one level below city, so playing very openly against them will backfire in 8 out 10 cases, for sure... we already saw that in games vs. chelsea and arsenal.
U can only manage a match if the players buy ur ideas, if they trust n respect u as a manager. It's early days Neville talks abt building a team long term approach , Carra talks abt survival. If u skip the long term steps n cheat u get Mourinho short bursts of success or/n mutiny.
Im not Unai Emery's fan at all,he's a good coach but not for big clubs,and maybe this transition to Arsenal is good to have a evolution in football after Wenger's era....by other way,i mean,Emery hasn't guilty if Auba misses clear chances...thats football,and football belongs to footballers....
It is entertaining to watch these two. They are both great and they know what they talk about usually. But this is actually funny, because each is talking about a different thing. Jamie talks about adapting and changing during a game. Gary talks about not changing the long term system... listen to each other :D
Good to see ex United player and ex liverpool player fighting over Arsenal.
😂😂😂
I agree. wish they would have smacked each other.
Ivan Bravo they would if its 10 years ago
@@alkanchannel5630 I reckon they would. 😎🤘
Very Ironic
Carragher's voice and accent always cracks me up man
eh, calm down, calm down.
Leo Henry watch Darren Farley’s impressions of him. He sounds more like him than carragher himself😂
He's annoying. Preferred it when Neville was on his own.
Leo Henry i love his accent. Maybe brits dont like his accent because they are used to it.
But non-British speakers adore their accent.
You should watch Darren Farrelly he does great impression
Looks like Neville learned a lot in Valencia about what not to do as a coach.
And England national team.
tennisblood no one learnt by being nice
language barrier affected both Neville and Emery - that's why they got sacked
Edin they got sacked because of their results, the language barrier was just a key factor
I think he'd be a very decent mid table, high championship level coach
Nev. "Jamie's power point here is lovely"
Carra. "You should have took it with you to Valencia"
🤣🤣🤣 savage..
4:37
LOL
haahahahahahahahahahaa
Best part of the video!
Roasted Neville
Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher, a better love story than Twilight.
😂😂😂
You're about ten years late with that joke
Mr. Neville is completely right..... we can 't forget they played city and chelsea.... that's not bournemouth and West ham.... can give unay much more time
neopromise I mean I’m not an Arsenal supporter but they could have scored four or five at Chelsea. So although they didn’t defend well the chances were there, just poor finishing in the final third.
@@danielstenner5917 me neither.... you're also right bro
You can't forget the past experience of Unai Emery. Although he got the objectives in Sevilla and Valencia, his teams never played that well. I don't think he is a manager of the caliber of an Arsenal like he wasn't a manager for PSG.
Nev to carragher “ I tell you what son how about put all your medals on the table , I know what I’m on about “
Daniel Stenner chelsea coulda also scored 5 or 6 goals so you not making sense, they were only good for 15 mins n that was bc of chelsea systemic failure
Arsenal fan but love Neville, such a good pundit
Him and Rio are my favourites.
KingSeeeb he is good liverpool fan here
Me to
He certainly speaks a hell of a lot more sense than many others, yes.
Why do you have to say you're an Arsenal fan? Why not just say you love Neville and he's a good pundit?
Neville is a genius, as an Arsenal fan I completely agree with him. I think Carragher was being misunderstood though, Jamie is just insisting that Emery adjust mid game to avoid dropping points. They both made good points here, love them together.
Exactly. Nevilles basically saying that you cant build a team overnight and when you have your mind set on a tactic you adapt the team to the method rather than the other way round however like Jamie said that can be risky and you end up losing games for being stubborn. You should both adapt your players to your method but also in the early stages you adapt your method to suit the moment otherwise you end up using the wrong tactics every game.
Carragher is right though aswell hes pointing out the hypocrisy that everyone slagged wenger off for only having a plan A for 20 odd years. Theyre both right
tsonny1104 I love watching my club Arsenal now man, the way they play out the back is just beautiful and slowly but surely we will be back to challenging for title next year and the champions league in a few. EMERYBALL
@@Mugiwara_Luffy12 that slow passing of the ball is bad. I believe they should increase the tempo to by pass teams that would want to sit back.
Loooool deluded Mugiwara
Gary Neville is an amazing pundit, really interesting to listen to him
He said pundit not manager
@Galva Tron he said pundit idiot
Galva Tron He said pundit, not manager dumbass
Galva Tron you don’t know the difference between a manager and a pundit you dummy, if you actually listen to him he’s speaking about some really good things and factual things about how the arsenal manager is tactically thinking and actually speaking some good facts
Galva Tron PUNDIT. IDIOT.
Ah feels good to hit somebody when they're down
Hate to say it as a Liverpool fan but Gary Neville is a quality pundit who’s understanding of football is brilliant
No he's simply very articulate
Forward To The Past such a pity😂
Yaseen Alkhazali people don’t realise the difference between knowing what you’re talking about and being a good pundit, in comparison to implementing said things as a manager at a club
You shouldn't hate to say it.
Regardless of who you support, agree with the person who is 100% correct.
@Forward To The Past he said puntit not manager
4:35 “Should’ve took it to Valencia” Yooooooo lmao go on Jamie
Jackson O’Mahony And who has Jamie Carriger managed. Too scared to try
Very disrespectful from jamie
Matthew Dwan rather be sacred to try then completely bomb in management, but that’s me
@@iNexl defeatist mentality
Well Gary can speak English
The pitch of their voices went higher as things got more heated.. This is *hilarious* and both make valid points but I side more with what *Neville* said over *Carragher*
Carraghers a bell end
Neville's voice only went higher to mock Carragher
yes arsenal 3 yrs later are no beteer, history shows it hasnt worked
100% with Gary. The players at utd dont respect Jose Mourinho. Thats why they are playing poor football. The amount of respect City players have for Pep is shown on the pitch. The way they push themselves on being the best everytime they step on the pitch. It’s about respect and fear of losing.
The Arsenal players had a “softie” for all those years playing under Wenger. They dont know how to fear their manager. It is Emery’s job to get them to that point now!
There's obviously no bond between the players and the manager you always see Pep and Klopp hugging there players and encouraging players but Mourinho doesn't seem to care
You need a bond to do that...be tough but at the same time show that you care...like pep and klopp did...if you acting tough all the time, like mourinho, player will walk over you...player can boycott and protest like chelsea players did to mourinho...and board will fire you as its easier to replace a manager than some stars of the team
Emery doesn’t need his players to fear him, he needs them to trust him.
Cameron Mcgregor Benitez never had a bond with his players but he delivered trophies...it's their trust you must strive to get
Niclas Johannesen Yes you’re right. Mourinho doesn’t completely understand the strenght of his players. He never really had a great way of managing his teams, looking at Inter and Real Madrid for example. He implemented defensive football into teams that played “pretty” football. He won titles in the past with his way of playing by forcing his style of football on the team. The problem with that is if you say the things he’s saying about his players, being an arrogant man (which he absolutely is) and being a manager that doesn’t care for the club he’s being paid by to win, you lose respect that you should earn by both players and staff.
If you remember, he talked about a few times he beat UTD in the past after the loss against Sevilla. Is that a manager the players and staff should respect?
Both UTD and City spent a crapload of money on players. The difference is that Pep knows what type of players he needs to strenghten his squad with. With Mourinho it seems like he’s willing to buy any decent looking player he sees. Why did UTD need Alexis? It almost seems like he’s lost the plot. No player should have to respect him.
The most important sentence in this debate:
3:47 "Guardiola, Klopp and Pochettino don't have a Plan B, they make Plan A better" which could be translated into "I fear not the team that has practiced several styles of football once, but I fear the team that has practiced one style of football 10,000 times."
Bruce lee
And that's why Klopp hasn't won a thing since 2012 other than the German equivalent of the community shield.
Sebastian Koil but it’s not accurate with Pep. He absolutely has a plan B & more. Play back 4, back 3. FB’s that hug touch line or tuck into midfield & play narrow. Now they’ve played with 1 WB on the touch line & the other narrow. False 9, 1 or 2 strikers......
@@russellward4624 it's still all the same philosophy though, even if he does tinker 1000 times a match
llodoroo but it is a plan B which was what he talked about not a change in philosophy. Nobody changed their philosophy in mid game.
10 wins straight on October. Neville was right
@REDZER_14 that game won't matter. Liverpool should be ashamed if they lose to Arsenal. Neville was right no matter where Arsenal is at the end of the season. Arsenal are vastly improved over last season.
@REDZER_14 lmao, we outclassed liverpool mate.
@REDZER_14 oohhh tiger that 1-1 draw shows signs...
@@blackpilltv4388 Should of beaten Liverpool.
10 straight wins because 3 were in Europa League.
No one:
My UA-cam recommendations: Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville have HEATED debate over Unai Emery’s Arse
Not funny
😂😂😂😭😭😂
We all know how good Neville was as a player but I think he's an even better pundit, He really knows his stuff.
agree with you
What's it like up there on Cloud Cuckoo Land ??
He is really good
Good player. Great pundit. Terrible coach.
And a successful manager at Valencia
Gary Neville is so right. Unai Emery is building a team, squad, for long term, not this season. He has a philosophy of how he wants to play. If the current players can't play from the back, he will bring in players that can. Like Pep Guardiola did at Man City. He's giving Ozil a chance, but he won't be there if he don't deliver. Ozil is quality, but he doesn't show it consistantly. The Arsenal defenders aren't up to the task, even some he brought in. The midfield and forwards are decent. Bernd Leno will be first choice soon, as he wasn't brought in to sit on the bench. I think Arsenal will get it right long term, but this season will be a learning curve, as the manager looks at what he has and strives to improve them or ship them out. Only next season will the team, squad reflect the manager.
Sportster 1 exactly... Peps first season was a disaster .. whose that couldn’t play the system were sold
Problem is who wants to go to arsenal. I agree in theory that he should stay the course but their not even the biggest club in the city they call home so recruiting good footballers to play his brand of football may be tough. The only fact they have decent players is they dont mind paying their players ridiculous amounts of money. Theres nothing wrong with that but sometimes a player might not care for the club and just see it as a payday which can be dangerous. I believe Man U is guilty of the same thing but at least they can bring in some good guys cause their Man U but maybe thats run it course. The point is if they ain't winning games itll be hard for players to care about the club and harder to bring in guys qualified to play for one of the biggest clubs in the best league in the world. So maybe tweaking your game plan around what you got may be best. After all he just got there and how are you going to gain any respect if you aren't winning. How long until the fans and players turn on you because of lack of results.
P.s. Only thing Gray learnt at Valencia is that he cant coach at all. Good luck finding another coaching job after that 10-7-11 record. Thats pretty bad for a top six team in a league where more than half the teams its plays suck.
Well said mate. Ozil’s quality but he doesn’t have the support. Imagine Man City only having Silva, no De Bruyne, no Auguero, no sane, no Fernandinho, Silva would struggle too. It’s a team game and Arsenal’s team doesn’t match up.
100% agree with you. I mean, look what happened to Ferguson thirty years ago. He had a vision for United and it took a few seasons for him to develop the club to what he wanted it to be. The important thing is, the United board gave him time. Look what patience gave United in the long run.
Good on ya, Sportster Steve. If this comment shows up in your notifications, know that you were right :P
Also, I agree with Gary. As a manager, you've got to put your system in place and if the players don't fit in, give THEM a chance to adapt. If they do, jolly good. If they don't; out you go, mate.
“This is a 3 year project” 😂
Haha....right.....about that... *yikes*
Projects don't exist in football total nonsense.
1 month later and arsenal have won 9 consecutive games
10* 6 weeks later
SpecialFXSGaming Neville was right
13 now. I am from future
Not a fan of any PL team, but watching Arsenal playing is pleasure these days, sexy football.
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Gary Neville is right in my opinion
Why?
JHunny x no he isn’t. Neville is saying that the manager should not adapt no matter what even when you don’t have the players to fit your system. That will not work out great for arsenal. Ask frank de boer what happened when he tried to force his system onto his players instead of adapting at Crystal Palace
Keita and Fabinho Apologist he does state that he is still working out what players do and do not fit his system so if he keeps changing it he will never work it out and know what players to get rid of and what to bring in
They're both wrong. That Arsenal team has some decent individual talent, but they're limited in the type of football they can play. As a Liverpool fan- you can maybe make a 10% difference to a limited squad with the right manager, but you need to bring in new players to act as the catalyst for change. Man City was the same in Pep's first season (albeit with a better squad but similar concept). If you put Klopp/Pep in charge of that Arsenal team this season they'd find it tough to finish 4th this season... that's just what the squad is right now.
@@eldio2124 why do I always see you commenting on aftv and other arsenal videos? Secret arsenal fan?
The more passionate they speak in the debate the higher the voices go 😂
That's the case with most people.
"Unai Emery isn't trying to get 8 points from 5 games to avoid relegation."
Absolutely roasting Sam Allardyce lmfao
If you close your eyes you`ll hear two old ladies
If you don't like football punditry. Why are you here? To make cheap unfunny cracks?
thanks for cracking me up at work, kinda of a bore place this!
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@Aiki Hanley Why? I've never heard two old girls have an intense debate about football. Im assuming you have one of those paper thin senses of humour that sees someone blowing rasberries as next level comedy
Hhhhhh lol,that got me laughing
I don't even know how this is an argument after seeing Klopp transform liverpool from has-beens to champions league challengers. He did not adapt - he stuck to his methods and weeded out the players that couldn't hack it, bringing in new ones that could. Emery should be given 3 years minimum to build the side he wants to build. That's what he was brought in for. Anyone can just 'adapt' but that will only get you so far
Dreadnought it’s an argument because carragher is talking about in this season. In klopps first season he didn’t adapt and because he didn’t have the players that were good enough for his system he finished 8th. But now that he has the players he wants he will be challenging for the title and trophies. Now that emery doesn’t have the players he wants right now he needs to adapt to what they’re good at instead of forcing them to do things that they’re just not good at
@@eldio2124 if he does adapt he'll lose his principles and philosophy, Guardiola they asked him to adapt and to think it through but he refused no matter what. Look whether you have players or not you can never change your principles, it's like giving up on who you are. Once you do that you can never get them back. If he adapt now he can never know what players are suited for his system and who are not which he can never decide who to bring in the place of who. Life isn't perfect you can't build a team without a sacrifice and the previous and next losses are the price.
@@khaliladam9952
I agree to a certain extent but if he does not adapt to the opposition, there is a huge risk.
The risk is they will lose points and might finish out of the top 6 if Emery is too stubborn in his ways THIS SEASON and then key players and their agents might try to force a move out of the club.
The reason Klopp is successful because he invested well from the money he got from sales of key players.
Keita and Fabinho Apologist Emery STILL doesn't know if he has the players he wants. He is finding out and while doing that a manager should not adapt because then he will never find out.
But we had areas that needed addressing and like Pep Guardiola, Klopp's brought in top quality centre-half and a goalkeeper spending a wedge of serious cash to try and address the problems and make us to be trophy winners.
Have to agree with G. Nev, give him time.
They were stuck with the same manager for ages, you get a new gaffer and expect him to deliver the title off a not so good team? This is football not ping pong.
Glad to have this duo back on the screens too. Always nice listening to the both of them.
Stanley waxy so ozil is there at arsenal for 25 yrs with wenger?😂😂😂
When did Carragher said Emery have to deliver the title in his first season?
He even said Arsenal shouldn't fire Emery in his first season.
Carragher's point is simple. Right now for the system that Emery wants Arsenal to play, they dont have the right players to do it.
He is asking Emery to adapt - not by hoofing it up the field everytime, but to do it like Chelsea, Liverpool and City do.
When they are under pressure and the goalkeeper and defenders looked uncomfortable after a series of errors, why not kick it up the field in between the lines (the space between the forwards and midfielders cos there will be gaps there if the opposition keep on pressing them).
That is his point. Adapt to the opposition. Dont be too pragmatic on your approach.
Agree. I know we lost the last 2 but we played well. We could have beaten chelsea hadnt we spurned some glorious open goals
@@digithead100 what exactly are you referring to mate?
@@nyamarungujr7834 was going to answer your question but since it came with an emoji like that, I'll actually leave you to understand my comment the way you want to.
Gary Neville is lucky Jamie didn’t spit on him...LOL
Dead
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Why? He never spat on Gary during almost 15 years of playing against eachother
Mr Banana Split Don’t think you got the joke... google Jamie spitting you will get it then.
@@maycegamez4822 no I do get it...its just that it doesn't make sense to assume that he'll spit on Neville now after decades of not spitting at him
The thing is they're both arguing for two different things. Carra was arguing that Emery should adapt to the game or the opposition, while Nev was arguing that Emery should not adapt to the players' comfort zone. Both of which is not wrong.
Neville was wrong cause it cost Emery his job.
Gary Neville is a brilliant pundit!!!!
i was looking for similar comment there you have it he is possitve
Jackon Williaina coaches should not have to adapt to players.
Players should adapt to coaches imo.
The best one.
@@livewell3129 players should adapt to the coach the coach should adapt to the league
It's funny because Guardiola says the opposite. Guardiola says that the manager has to adapt to the specific skills of the players. Maybe he doesn't mean the basics though.
when Bayern played Real Madrid in the 2014 champions league semi-final the players told Guardiola to let the team have control over the tactics. Guardiola complied and they went on to lose 0-4. I agree with Neville here. the players have to adapt to the manager's philosophy and not the other way round. the team then has to gain trust towards their manager in order to execute it properly, but all of this needs time. I couldn't care less about Arsenal, but Emery is a top manager and he should be given enough time to implement his philosophy.
How do you know this happened?
mazincool555 it was all over german media in 2014. Schweinsteiger and the players approached Guardiola and asked him to play with two CDMs as they did in the treble season with Heynckes which obviously turned out to be perfect for Bayern in this period. Robben later admitted that this conversation between the players and Guardiola did in fact take place and if you saw the game it was obvious that they actually played with two CDMs.
@@mazincool555 you can read it in pep's book
And that's why pep was happy to leave bayern. Too many players trying to run the team there and don't realize their time is up and let coman and Douglas Costa take over.
Real madrid scored the first two goals from headers and match was over as then Bayern had to score 4 to win the match. Having 2 CDMs actually helps Bayern to defend those set pieces. Pep in his book just tried to divert the attention that his philosophy gets destroyed against a dangerous counter attacking team who has some serious pace up front.
Not often I agree with Gary Neville, but completely respect his opinion here and agree with him 100%.
Neville talks sense and methodically, whereas Carragher’s punditry style is that of an armchair occasional footy spectator at best! Love listening to Neville and this is coming from a Liverpool supporter.
Someone should remind Carragher that the entire Country used to bash and critisice Pep for playing it out from the back and dropping Hart. He allmost missed out on a top 4 finish in his first Season and won 0 trophies. It took Pep 3 Transfer Windows before his Team started to dominate so how do People expect Emery to Change Things for the better after 6 weeks when you consider his low Budget that he had and the fact that he has to rebuild an unbalanced squad that he inherited? Chelsea have spent more on a Goalkeeper than what Arsenal did to rebuild the entire squad eventhough Chelsea allready had the better Team before the Transfer window opened. I am a Coach as well (Ameteur Football) but Garry is absolutly spot on, you have to stick to your philosophy and be rutheless otherwise the Players will feel it and jump all over you
Cant Agree More...
Don’t forget the 20+ years of WENGERism still ingrained in the club culture
Pep dropping Hart was one of his few good decisions.
Except that Pep has absolutely adapted to current City team. Letting players walk all over you is a different thing. What Carragher is saying is that Emery should adapt to try and bring out the best out of the players he has. Doesn't mean he shouldn't drop Ozil. It just means don't try to make players do things they can't. If half the squad you have don't play football the way you want them to. You can't chuck all of them out. No coach gets that liberty.
Neville is right. But refusing to adapt is incredibly arrogant. Emery already caved in at PSG. At Arsenal, he doesn't need to do that. But he needs to understand that some of his tactics will probably not work well enough.
Nev should ask carragher to get he’s medals out
Gotta say as a Man City fan Gary Neville is easily the most open minded and best football pundit out there
Alexander Joseph Open minded? He's entrenched and biased and pitifully spiteful.
daibonehead he knows good football teams and he knows bad ones no bullshit
He is too stubborn here and should listen to carragher. What he is saying is right but we all know emery won't get quality players to play from the back given how much players cost now so he must adapt or struggle like wenger
Antares Emery can't get quality players at the back? Says who exactly?
This is Arsenal we are talking about....not AFC Fylde.
He's been there just over a couple months...🤣🤣🤣 and here is you.....a non football manager advising him to adapt.
On what basis exactly? Because you saw a video of Jamie Carragher and figured you would try and verbally suck him off in agreement 🤣🤣🤣 give it a rest lol
Last time I checked......Arsenal have money and an ideal location that is hugely attractive to potential players so I massively disagree (please note....I don't like Arsenal and I'm not from London either) so I'm absolutely unbiased towards them.
Facts are facts!
Arsenal signed Mustafi (after he was a world cup winner) albeit under Wenger and last time I checked.....Unai Emery convinced Neymar into joining PSG so I doubt he "couldn't" attract a top defender who plays out from the back 🙄
As long as Arsenal have money and are willing to spend it and not hold back.....they can sign top players (even ones that can play out from the back) that's a promise.
@@asher0121birmzz do you honestly think Emery convinced Neymar to join PSG 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 boy you're lost
I swear carra's voice gets higher as he continues to be triggered by gaz😂😂..
Unfortunate where the caption cut off
Damn those high pitched voices so hilarious
This debate was better than the champions league final.
Lol
Nah that Bicycle kick from Bale was insane, and Karius was pretty hilarious 😂
Carragher making the most sense in this exchange, although Neville's point about keeping a consistent message is right. The message shouldn't be 'we stick with the system regardless though' it should be 'I as manager will pick the players capable of playing the best system to win against the opposition team this week'. Trying to make players play to a system they are incapable of achieving just means losing a lot. The system should make the most of what you actually have available at that time.
Well this aged well
Neville is right 100%. Just look at Chelsea under their first year with Conte. The first games they played a back 4 as Conte "adapted" to their style. They struggled in the first games and their lost to Arsenal was when Conte said "We are doing it my way" with a back 3. They won the league at the end of the season
Rafa Gonzales and got sacked tha next season.. 😂😂 the reason they won the title was they have far less matches then their competitors..
he got sacked because of his relationships with the board and the players not because of his tactics
@@hlenaspace8251 clearly doesn't understand. Having less matches helped them fitness wise yes but his tactic revolutionised the prem that year, how many team copied his formation? 10+? All this aside, he still did it his way and won the league. Which very few managers can replicate.
Kshitij Agrawal in Chelsea they have a transfer committee that decides the the transfers not the managers. If you remember a year back when they sold Matic Conte was angry as f...
He got sacked partly because a bad season but also because he was in a open conflict with the management of Chelsea already a year ago.
I was thinking the exact thing when watching this
Neville: football knowledge.
Gary Neville like all the Clowns said Pwp cant do it in Prem,his Football wont work here.
How about now Carragher? Arsenal are now 21 unbeaten! Neville was on point!
@@benjaminpelentsov7303 you guys do realise emery had adapted a little to get better results.. so in that sense carragher as correct
And then lost to Southampton and Arsenal.
How about now? Liverpool just spanked arsenal 5-1 because Emery is trying to get players to do things they are not capable of.
Benjamin Pelentsov now it doesnt look as silly.
How about now ???
Looks like carra was right. You got to get results.
4:35
Jamie: "You should've taken it to Valencia"
Haha Carrabanter is back
Hell Nah - United and Neville fan here but that was my favourite bit haha. So quick.
Carrabanter 🤢🤢🤢
I was waiting for someone to pick up on that 😭🤣
Hell Nah Carracock is a divvy lad. About should've taken it to Valencia....🤣🤣🤣
Should've implemented it at Liverpool when he was playing.....maybe he'd have a Premier League winners medal instead of dribbling looking at G Nev's collection of them 🤣🤣🤣
Fire Deya calm down, it's just banter & even Neville knows it
More tension then a family gathering
than*
that was an example ,stupid!
Surprised carragher didn't phlegm in his face lol
Jeez, what happened before they went on?
theyre always like this
Great debate from former great players , RESPECT for both of them !!!
These two together are bloody brilliant.
wenger is the greatest manager ever u know they are best mates
No! Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest manager ever!! Get it right! Lol
Shaq and Chuck of football...
gary is completely correct, as ian wright said; wenger’s influence is all over the club, you can’t expect emery to come in and reform the club the way he wants in 5-6 weeks
About that...
he’s done well that’s for sure
3yrs later aresnal havent improved lol
Gotta love rewatching these years later
the high pitch voices in the end from both sounds like 2 Grannies battling
Gary Neville is speaking sense,Jamie carragher is just confused
spitty jc should never got his job back on sky
gary pring You're just jealous because people like him.
True. Jamie is a great pundit, just feel he’s wrong here
This is a misunderstanding over the meaning of the word adapt. Adapt can mean an entirely different style but it can also mean a more subtle change. Neville is assuming a radical change and says players will get confused, and he’s right. Carra is implying a more subtle change but using the same word and he’s also right. Therein lies the misunderstanding between the two.
probably has done few times
I'm surprised Carragher didn't spit at Neville
Will Shaw lol
😂😂😂
Its because he isn't in a car driving down a motor way
Wow! So original, I couldn’t stop laughing 😂😂😂😂😂😂 lmao
Joseph Stalin bruh I'm literally dead too 😂😂😂💯👌
Neville's such a knob... 0:17 "It's ignorant to suggest he (Emery) has to adapt" and 0:35 "the players have to adapt to him" six minutes later... 6:40 "We have to adapt as coaches, not the players"
You missed his point. Players need to adapt to the coach's philosophy; Coaches need to adapt to the football's evolution.
They both make good points, but Neville's arguments just edge it for me.
Give the man a chance I'm backing Emery 100%.
That's why I love Gary. He's talk about football. Not bullshit. Great views from him.
Arsenal were the wrong club for Emery, Aston Villa is perfect for him.
The pragmatic (Carragher) vs the Dogmatic (Neville). Interesting debate but I agree with Neville. The beautiful game, ideas and tactic are better than getting results no matter what.
Finally someone telling the truth about big Sam 😂😂😂 oh Gary used to hate you but now love you lad.👍🏼
I've waited for this since yesterday. Thanks!
You could have just gone on the sky sports app.. the whole video is on there
@@Nine5Vader not available in my country. No access to skysports here.
The title in your recommendations😂
If you're on mobile...the title doesn't fit without pressing the down arrow...Just read it
Ferguson done something similar to what gary neville said and it worked
I agree with Gary!
Not changing tactics as a coach as one thing. But being too stubborn to drop your high line while still playing Mustafi is another. Not having the tools to implement your tactics is different than adapting
AN MEDIA.
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Armando Sanchez I think a good example to look at is City last season. Pep didn’t adapt his ideas to the City squad last season and we suffered for it. Our fullbacks (Zaba/Clichy/Sagna/Kolarov) weren’t built to play like Pep demands, going forward into attacking areas while having the pace to recover and not leave the defense gaping. However, he still demanded it from them. Now, plug in Walker/Mendy/Danilo/Delph into the fullback positions and the team shatters records and wins the league. I think Gary is spot on in his argument. Not once did City start playing long balls last season because our fullbacks and Bravo couldn’t do what Pep demanded, and the difference it makes is once you bring in the right pieces, the rest of the team already knows how the manager wants to play
Just got into fotball a few years ago after a life long watch of my best friend's love for Liverpool. These to gentlemen are fantastic. The dynamics and mutual respect combined with the banter is pure gold.
That last Neville comment killed me “prehistoric old man”😂🤣😅
It's time for Jamie to manage a pub team
So he can spit at them at half time
Naughty but funny :)
Lord Claude GoonerTV don’t think Chelsea want him
Emery is a great appointment. I don’t necessarily think some of these players are sound enough to fit Emery’s style, but that’s where Neville has it right! He’ll try to coach the players into it, if they can’t hack it, then they go elsewhere.
How this opinion has aged, here’s Arteta at Arsenal who did the same thing Gary was asking for them to give Emery the change to get
Gary Neville is right.
But he has the 90's/2000's mindset.
Basketball, Football, Baseball. Players sign short contracts and managers get released. There is no loyalty like back then.
Perform pr get cut.
Man City, Chelsea and United are like this. Don't perform your out. But it has worked for City and Chelsea. They won 3 titles each in the last 10 years and United 4 titles.
4:36 "should have taken it to Valencia" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is it him saying those words? Looks more like a text to speech app set to max speed
Always with the cheeky dig, gotta love em both.
I see this and wonder how Skipp Baylass and Stefan A Snitch are regarded as "good" analyst
Have you ever seen Tottenham win the league
Yes.
The premier league tho?
Richard John McCain back when everything was black and white
Someone explain what this comment means please.
@@helal723 think he's referring to the praise that their manager receives despite not winning trophies
‘Should if taken it to Valencia’ line of the centuryyyyyyyy
Is it true though?
The picture behind of Unai Emery looked like victor lindelof lol
Gary is absolutely right here. Managers in big teams should never change their core strategies. The players should adapt to the manager and if they can't, the club must bring in new players who can.
Jamie isn't saying Emery should make changes to his core strategy, but rather make tweaks to accompany the set of players he had.
Bri10 exactly mate. I think we're the only 2 that seem to listen past Neville's volume of words and see that Carragher is talking sense.
Now i can see why he failed at Valencia fk players!!!
Gary Neville is a brilliant pundit... Always makes very valid points....
How to win an argument in the rest of world: Present valid arguments
In Britain: Do your best impression of Mickey Mouse
Nevile predicted what unai would go through and as at now, Nevile stands to be right in all front. just the difference between a coach and a pundit.
To be honest G.NEV IS TOTALLY RIGHT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT CARRA IS THINKING
RonancPower 12 I think Carragher is just trying to cause debate otherwise if they both agree it would make the debate boring. Bt I agree with Neville 100% and I’m a Liverpool fan
That didn't age well
Thank god for Gary Neville, all other football pundits are absolute muppets.
Well said Gary, one of the few articulate player turned pundits out there, don't really know what Carra's on about here, surely the first year Emery should be given the time to implement and instill his ideas. The last thing you want is him to adapt and start playing long balls. Leave that to big sam
What Carra is saying is if during a game his tactics or style of play isn't working then adjust & play a little different... Remember if you play the same every game for the full 90 mins eventually teams will know what you're going to do & ADJUST to win & get the points... Fergie was a genius at what Carra is getting at mate
Carragher turned out to be right they didn't get results so he got sacked
Very hard for modern manager now to get there ideas across in a short time
It's been 7 months and I still can't figure out what Carragher was on about
The thing is none of them are wrong, they are just talking about different facets of coaching.
What Jamie means is Emery should ADAPT his GAME-PLAN to teams he plays, use personnel accordingly and delegate instructions and roles accordingly *TO WHAT HE HAS DECIDED, NOT WHAT THE PLAYERS DECIDE OR BENDING HIS WILL TO PLAYERS*
What Gary means is Emery should not ADAPT his PHILOSOPHY/MASTER PLAN to the players because certain players REFUSE/MOAN or aren't cut out to play the way he wishes. Gary believes the moment he starts compromising his philosophy for PLAYERS (Different from tuning your base philosophy to suit game-day opposition), *YOU HAVE LOST THE PLOT*
Frankly, i think these two guys just like to argue cause its fun or "juicy". They are on the same team but both of them are colour blind.
Drella Eloquent and insightful summation of the truth.
Took the words straight from my mouth. They just aren't smart enough to see that they're talking about different aspects of coaching.
Finally someone with logic and a brain.
Philosophy (Neville) and tactics (Carragher) are entirely different subjects. If a game plan isn't working you change the tactics up, that doesn't necessarily mean sacrificing the philosophy.
Philosophy is essentially the "personality" of the team, the chemistry, the cohesive way a team plays, the way the body of the team expands and contracts on the pitch, passes, plays, chemistry et all.
That being said, players should always always be accommodating the manager and coaching staff, not the other way around.
Finally. I had to scroll way too far to see somebody say it like it is! Good on ya!
I was thinkin something similar i think its the id which is causing the friction.....they are both exact!!!
I'd agree with Jamie maybe a few years back but after watching football for years, I think having a philosophy is of utmost importance. It doesn't only shape the club on the pitch but off the pitch as well, that includes the structure, the youth team, the PR people etc. Having no identity is dangerous. Maybe Emery could have got a draw or a narrow win if he put 11 behind the ball but then he'd be undoing all the work Wenger has done. Many coaches have won trophies but only the elite ones build empires and change the club.
Jack Wilshere those that do, are celebrated forever. Look at Pep
Who else is here after Emery was sacked and Arteta was appointed?
I wonder if there are going to be some sort of update after the game v Liverpool has been played.
This is what a real discussion looks like
Carragher lost the plot
@@Gtahackerpoison jealous about what? The fact that lpool have won absoloutley nothing in god Knows how many years?
And yet players would still rather play for them than the team who - according to their fans - won "three trophies" in Mourniho's first season (including the might Charity Sheild)..
Carra will NEVER manage a football team
Ex Russian Spy At least he won’t try (and fail) to manage like Gary then, eh?
Carragher had the better argument actually
I typed in sky sports heated debate and this is the first one that came up
Watching this now Arsenal have won 10 in a row playing Emery ball. Neville was clearly right.
4 months later and the 20 or so game unbeaten run has meant nothing 😏
Hows 5th
In the end?😂
Hahahah
Clearly
Both Carra and Nev are right in their own way. Neville says that each team must have a set philosophy, which is coached by the manager. But Carra makes a good point when he says, a coach should be able to manage his team depending on the opposition. For example: if Man City go head to head with Liverpool they might get absolutely destroyed (which already happened once last year), but if they park the bus ,they might have a prayer. This is called managing a particular match based on the opposition. Mourinho is arguably one of the best at this.
But Neville is specifically talking about early days of the football, and not confusing the message to.minimise confusion and backlash
If that is the logic then where is Mourinho's strength in team? Keep adapting everytime? Shouldn't they have a strength of their own? Is adapting their only strength? Don't they have nothing of their own?.. That's why mourinho never lasts anywhere longer than 3 seasons.. And that's why pep is the best coz his philosophy is to play with the ball not without it
i agree. you don't go head to head with city, only if you are real, barca or psg, as their teams are as good or even better, but the fact is that spurs, united, liverpool, arsenal, and chelsea are one level below city, so playing very openly against them will backfire in 8 out 10 cases, for sure... we already saw that in games vs. chelsea and arsenal.
U can only manage a match if the players buy ur ideas, if they trust n respect u as a manager. It's early days Neville talks abt building a team long term approach , Carra talks abt survival. If u skip the long term steps n cheat u get Mourinho short bursts of success or/n mutiny.
Im not Unai Emery's fan at all,he's a good coach but not for big clubs,and maybe this transition to Arsenal is good to have a evolution in football after Wenger's era....by other way,i mean,Emery hasn't guilty if Auba misses clear chances...thats football,and football belongs to footballers....
They should be on the undercard of the jj v Logan fight
I love these two 😂😂. Gary Neville's analysis is so bang on point in this case and Arsenal is reaping the fruits on Emery's tactics
3:46 - calm down, calm down!
Arrr you telling me to caaaam daaan?
It is entertaining to watch these two. They are both great and they know what they talk about usually.
But this is actually funny, because each is talking about a different thing. Jamie talks about adapting and changing during a game. Gary talks about not changing the long term system... listen to each other :D
Ondrej Hrdlicka I picked this up too
Brilliant from Gary..
As usual, Gary sounds the most convincing during the debate. But, as usual, Carra tends to be right in the end.
love these debates