better idea, give it speed boost. Just like an avalanche, glacially (heh) slow until it picks up speed and mass then it can sweep (heh) almost anything aside.
Avalugg is the greatest Pokémon of all time. I love it when he gets onto the field and says his iconic catchphrase, “It’s TIME to 𝓛𝓾𝓰𝓰” and then he luggs all over the opponent’s Pokémon. Gives me goosebumps every single time.
i dont think it is. i think it being a defensive ice type, with ice’s weakness, is its gimmick, why it exists in the first place. if ice wasnt bad at defense, avalugg wouldn’t exist.
It would be a lot better if quad weaknesses weren't a thing. Just make it so super effective damage - whether it's effective against one or both of a mon's types - just do 2x damage. That would make a lot of dual-type mons more balanced. And it's not like that would automatically make dual-typing better than mono-types, having 2 types would still open you up to more weaknesses, but at least you wouldn't be vulnerable to quad weaknesses. If they wanted to take a less extreme approach, they could just make an ability that does what I'm describing, and give it to Avalugg.
Not really; it just shows that a Pokemon isn't always meant to be good in competition.... It's a fine Pokemon on it's own. Just not good for competition.... and that's okay....
@@TheDeathmailbut it’s not even fine on its own. In casual play this supposedly defensive wall dies to everything, with no speed to allow it to ever do anything. I’d argue it’s even worse in casual.
I get what they were trying to do. They wanted to make be able to be used in both snow and sandstorm, it would have been an interesting niche, if they gave it some way to compensate for its abysmal typing. Like idk, having an ability that halved all super effective damage or made it immune to fighting types.
You forgot to mention the """Best""" part of Hisuian Avalugg. Not only did they give it a signature move that flinches, but they also buffed it's speed, but only to a mere 38. So not only is it to slow to actually flinch anything regularly, but it's also to fast in trick room to out-speed common Trick Room threats like Hatterrene or Amoongus. Something that regular Avalugg itself is more than capable of. They made Hisuian Avalugg worse at the one thing it should be halfway-decent at. It's genuinly incredibly how badly designed this thing is.
I get comments like this sometimes so I want to clarify: a pokemon's worth isn't only its competitive viability. even though avalugg isn't that good in competitive, i still like it, both for in-game and out-of-game traits. however, hisuian avalugg just doesn't add anything interesting. strong jaw isn't that good for it, the stat changes don't mean anything, and the rock type is a pure detriment. i just with it was more unique.
@@thementalorder1233the coolest thing it does is the boss fight against the giant one. In every other way it's a massive downgrade from the base form.
There was a video on I think Pinkacross' channel about how broken Avalugg is similar to reuniclus in old gens an optimally played game always ends in an Avalugg setup-war. It was uploaded on 1/4. I found it to be very informative /s
When I heard Avalugg was getting a new form, I was initially so excited because I really liked him conceptually, but couldn’t properly use him. Hisuian Avalugg is so bad that I was essentially using 5 Pokemon in Legends Arceus and it made the final Volo fight absurdly hard.
the thumbnail could be said for almost any "defensive" ice type (the primary exception is calyrex-ice, but that's only redeemed thanks to it's attack power + trick room synergy)
Calling calyrex defensive is kinda funny. Like I guess so? Like yeah nuking all your opponents to death DOES sound like a pretty solid defense gotta say
more in that calyrex ice has some pretty impressive defence stats (100 hp, 150 def, 130 sp.def) okay so i probably should clarify, calling calyrex-ice a defensive pokemon is definitely kinda a stretch, my main point is just that it's a rather bulky ice type that isn't even used for being a bulky ice type, which really goes to show just how bad defensive ice types are lol
Last time I used Hisuian Avalugg it was with a friend who fucking LOVES dogshit pokemon and the entire time me and them were just making fun of how bad H-Avalugg was while also pretending to play it up as the most dangerous aspect of our team, having both lead off against eachother and then just body pressing eachother until one of them died. Good times.
Not that it's related to your channel's scope at all, but Hisuian-Avalugg is actually a beast in Pokemon Go. Master League PvP (which could be considered the Ubers, but without any Megas) is full of strong dragons, grounds, and flying types, and solely lacking in ice types. H-Avalugg takes advantage of Ice's great offensive capabilities against these top types while also being able to beat out many neutral matchups such as Mewtwo with it's lopsided stat distribution and moveset making it very tanky in Go. The rock typing even helps more than regular Avalugg's typing, since it lets H-Avalugg be a great response to Ho-Oh and Lugia by resisting flying and taking neutral from fire. It's not a perfect pokemon, but it's funny to see H-Avalugg be so awful in main series while also being able to compete with box legendaries in Go.
I would argue that Hisuian Avalugg was designed and balanced around the different battle style of Legends: Arceus. As in, almost every battle difference is in its favor. To detail it more: The grit items and the way speed tiering works in Legends: Arceus mean that its speed can actually be passable enough to not constantly be attacked twice in a row. Combined with Mountain Gale, Rock Slide, and Iron Head, which all delay opponents' actions, it can stall out the action order decently effectively. The different damage formula works too, as it can take about half from a max investment Close Combat and then do that action order thing I talked about. Not to mention there's no flinching (bad for any slow defensive mon), Stealth Rock works as a weak chip damage over time move instead of an entry hazard, and its typing matches decently well into major battles after you get access to it. Put that in a mainline Pokemon game and it all falls apart at the seams.
I think Hisuian Avalugg is the proof we needed that sometimes gamefreak just does random shit. From shiny colors to entire pokemon, sometimes they just say "fuck it, randomize" and call it a day. All the other questionable decisions at least made this theory comfortably "tinfoil hat", but Hisuian Avalugg is so mind boggling it actually cant be explained.
I adore the visual design on H-Avalugg, so naturally it hurt to see it folding under just about every element. On a future playthrough I'm likely running this guy, so I may have a rough time.
I also was severely surprised when I saw Rock instead of something like Ground or Steel, either of which would have been Nuts. But...Rock? Seriously? I...why?
Ice steel is still kinda ass - 2x weakness to fire and fighting (really common offensive types) SUCK (source: I tried playing alolan sandslash). Ice ground however?? Now we’re cooking!
Gamefreak seems to not know their own types, treating types like rock and ice as if they were defensive oriented types rather than glass canons as when we think or rocks or ice, we think of them as being defensive and solid. Either that or it was created more to look cool and like it *could* be defensive
@@jootersblaccat it is not that they don't know. You people must ubderstand that pokemons are not designed lime LoL champions, they are designed like MTG cards. Not everything ia meant to be used at high level of play. And some things really only exist as "pokedex fillers". Flavour fir them matter a lot and thus if a type represent something solid and inert, that translate to high defense and low speed. Sticking to "type identity" for them is more important than competotive viability, wich kinda makes sense when 99% of the playerbase do not play compatitive at all.
We can mock Avalugg now, but just you wait till Legends ZA makes us pay for our sins with Mega Avalugg: A pure-Ice Type with a Defense stat of 230, 130 Special Defense (loses 30 Special Attack lol), and its Ability becomes Wonderful Magic Guard which combines Wonder Guard & Magic Guard so it ONLY takes damage from direct attacks and they HAVE to be super-effective.
Hisui Dex entry: "The armor of ice covering its lower jaw puts steel to shame and can shatter rocks with ease. This Pokémon barrels along steep mountain paths, cleaving through the deep snow." Puts steel to shame. PUTS STEEL TO SHAME.
My headcanon is that Avalugg evolved out of having the Rock typing its Hisuian variant has because it kept getting decimated. Therefore, if we ever get a Paradox Future Avalugg (Iron Slab or something idk) it'll be mono-water or water/steel (because the ice wil melt) and will define OU for generations.
Oh, I used to love bringing Avalugg into OU in Gen 7 matches. Simple yet effective tool of mass destruction: Give it max DEF and HP, Protect (Maybe Iron Defense + Body Press if you really wanna mess people up), avalanche, recover and MIRROR CAPE and laugh as you survive every physical attack coming your way while chipping them away with a rocky helmet (I've been called a cheater for surviving a boosted mega Blaziken's high jump kick with ease.) And when they figure out that they need a special attack to one shot you: Survive with 1 HP thanks to sturdy and blast their special sweeper into space with mirror cape. I love this strat and have killed way too many OU mons like that.
The way they were gassing up His Lugg in the dialogue of Legends Arceus I was legitimately thinking it would be part ground type, hell even a goddamn dragon given that he was LoA's equivalent to a final gym leader so needless to say my disappointment was immeasurable and my day was ruined upon figuring out its type...
252+ SpA Delphox Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg-Hisui: 322-379 (81.7 - 96.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Solar Power Charizard Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg-Hisui in Sun: 700-825 (177.6 - 209.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg-Hisui: 519-612 (131.7 - 155.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Ninetales Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg-Hisui in Sun: 385-454 (97.7 - 115.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
I'm an Avalugg apologist. Yes; it's not good in competitive. But the thing was an absolute badass in my Scarlet Nuzlocke. It just hard countered virtually every physical attacker; even tanking Booster Energy Roaring Moon and blasting it back with Avalanche. It didn't even take close to half from a +1 Roaring Moon's super-effective attack. So I'll always have a soft spot for the dumb ice block because used well; the thing is a godsend in Nuzlockes.
This makes me wonder. If Ice types had actual defensive utility, as for example, resisting Water and Flying, how good would they be? Hisuian Avalugg would still suck tho.
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend Also, talking about this, what would be any good reasonable buff that would benefit any underwhelming type as a whole without them being broken?
My goat H-Avalugg is putting some numbers in my trick room team with Loaded Dice, Icicle Spear and Rock Blast (those numbers are zero) (I love H-avalugg specifically so much)
With how cool it is, how good utility it has (recover, rapid spin, wide guard) and solid stats it is quite sad how underwhelming it is :(. What could even be done about it, give it a better ability? I have no idea... Still love avalugg tho.
Game Freak so often doesn't seem to understand their own damn game. Even from the beginning, they want to make these huge and sturdy Rock-types but make Rock weak to so many things. Same with Ice, and then they make so many supposedly bulky Ice and Rock types which get obliterated because of their awful resistances. See also incidents like Dark Void, where they prevented Smeargle from Sketching it and then nerfed it anyway.
Some Hisuian forms feel like they should've (or could've) survived to the present day, but (and I say this as a board-certified Avaluvver) it's no wonder H-Avalugg died off
I really feel that Gamefreak just has moments between cutting corners and axing vital parts of the game where their just like "Yeah, put that in. I wanna see how they'll feel about fucking this up like this" and then they all laugh for the remaining 8 minutes the games is left in production for.
I see those giant knives on his face and thought hisuin avalugg was going to be an ice/steel type, which would still make it suffer against fighting and fire but at least would give it a couple resistances
I used Avalugg on ny first playthtough of XY and it put in work where i needed it, but it still dropped to literally any special hit which was always depressing. It is such a cool mon and gamefreak did it so dirty
My biggest gripe with Avalugg-Hisui is that it's _faster_ than its base form, which is bad due to it being slower in Trick Room compared to its base form, so it needs an item like Macho Brace to under-speed some threats. Ice / Rock has some offensive potential, but its stats let it down.
Avalugg has a niche use in gen 8 VGC: it gets own tempo, and dmax made it pretty sturdy. You pair it with Prankster Thundurus, dynamax Avalugg, use Swagger on it, and punch some holes in teams.
they probably gave hisuian avalugg +10 extra base speed to make mountain gale better on it, but they also failed to consider that it's still a fucking avalugg, also giving it strong jaw with a whopping 2 biting moves to use with it, one being ice fang was one of the decisions of all time
I do love how many of these videos have a bit where it's just "this Pokemon got a lot better in gen 9 because it can now just stop being a terrible type".
Here’s a story from my first playthrough of Legends Arceus. I had a team planned out consisting of Hisuin Samurott, Hisuian Arcanine, Ursaluna, Hisuian Goodra, Raichu, and Hisuian Avalugg. Avalugg was the last member of the team (duh) and I wanted to give it a try because I liked the rusty (looking) design of H-Avalugg. As I trained Avalugg and got him caught up to the team I noticed how often he got knocked out during training. “No issue” I thought and continued using him. However due to being a late game encounter, he didn’t partake in many fights. But before the post game I used Avalugg in the battle against Kamado. In the battle it got destroyed by his Snorlax after missing the 95 accurate Mountain Gale. “That sucks…” I thought, I continued forward and proceeded to finish the main story and start the post game. When it came time for the Volo fight I was severely underleveled and loss on my first attempt. So I grinded the entire team up to his level and went in again. I wanted Avalugg to knockout Volo’s Garchomp with Mountain Gale but I kept getting one-shot by Earth Power. This confused me at first but it was a crit so brushed it off and took another L. I grinded again and proceeded to lose again. At this point I am 10 levels higher than Volo’s entire team and Avalugg is getting one shot by earth powers and Close Combats. He outspeeds nothing but is getting one-shot. I decided to max Avaluggs level and go again. Yet again he got one-shot by earth power for context, special attack is Garchomp’s “weakest” stat (80) and yet it kept one-shorting my max special defense (with a Sp. Def nature) Hisuian Avalugg. After losing YET again, I finally looked at my teams stats and I kid you not. I wasn’t prepared to see that my max-leveled Avalugg had a Special defense below 100! This left me slack-jawed and I was just so mad because Avalugg has done nothing but get one-shot every time I send him out to battle. So I decided to box him and pull out the Jolly Petill I caught and evolve her into a Hisuian Lilligant and grind her up to level 60 (about 10 levels lower than Volo’s team). And wow, just wow. In her first and only fight Hisuian Lilligant managed to set up a victory dance and proceeded to defeat Volo’s Lucario, Garchomp and deal damage to his Hisuin Arcanine before falling. Hisuian Lilligant managed to do more in one fight than what Hisuian Avalugg has done for me the entire game! Although I still lost that fight, I was just beyond happy to finally know I could beat Volo’s team. After taking the 23 L, I grinded up the team consisting of Hisuian Samurott, Raichu, Ursaluna, Hisuian Goodra, Hisuian Arcanine and Hisuian Lilligant and returned to fight Volo. But I wasn’t losing. I went in to this fight knowing I will win. It won’t happen later, this happens now. And after Lilligant managed to defeat Lucario, Garchomp, and Arcanine before falling to Togekiss, I faced Giratina and after defeating both forms. I won. I beat the Volo fight and my love for Hisuian Lilligant skyrocketed unlike any Pokémon before. I deeply regret passing her by not giving a thought about using her. But after what she did for me in the Volo fight, I can confidently say she is now my 2nd favorite Grass type of all time and is easily in my top 30 (or 40) favorite Pokémon of all time. Hisuian Avalugg on the other hand became one of my least favorite Pokémon. Down there with Hypno. But unlike Hypno, who I dislike mostly for it’s design. H-Avalugg I dislike entirely because it can’t do a damn thing if hit by a decent special attack. Plus it’s a slow bulky ice type, a type of Pokémon that has rarely worked and will hardly ever work (seriously why do they keep making physically slow bulky ice types, it’s the worst type defensively, just stop). Hisuian Avalugg is the definition of a frustrating Pokémon because although it has lopsided stats with an awful defensive typing, it has some great moves and awesome abilities yet it can’t use them effectively. Something like Mamoswine would love Mountain Gale as a spammable Ice move, but it can’t because (as of now) it’s the signature move of Hisuian Avalugg, a Pokémon who absolutely doesn’t deserve to move because of its laundry list of flaws. My first ever playthrough of Legenda Arceus is something I’ll always remember as itwas the first and only time I ever used a Hisuian Avalugg. I hope to never use one again
This thing was my Baxcalibur check when bax was still legal. Body press is an amazing buff. Also this thing is S tier in inverse battles where weaknesses and resistances are swapped.
So, before Indigo Disk in which GameFreak fixed Geeta’s team, when I fought her for the first time: *Geeta sends out Gogoat* “Okay, weird choice for a champion to have, but I’ll go with it.” *Geeta sends out Avalugg* “Ok, now you’re just throwing.”
The one potential use case for Hisuian Avalugg is as a trick room sweeper because of its higher attack and extra stab type, plus mountain gale can actually flinch. Although they made it 10 points faster for some reason, while it's still slow enough to not matter those points would be better anywhere else
Ice Type is such a sad typing since it was built to be a glass cannon like Typing with its lack of resistances, however the Pokemon that got the Ice typing were NOT Glass cannons. There are only TWO real Ice types that follow what Ice was supposed to be: Fast, High attack and or special attack and No health and defence. And those two Ice types are: Weavile Chien-Pao There are probably more Fast high damage and low survivability Ice types but those are the two main ones I can think of. The rest of the Ice types with exeptions like Kyurem and Baxscalibur who are powerful for their stats as Legendries and Pseudo legendries You got Ice types who are defensive walls that DO NOT WORK as defensive walls thanks to their Ice typing: Lapras Abomasnow Mamoswine Regice Walren Avalugg This is just sad to see, because Ice is a type where the stat spread should look like Deoxys-attack form (Not literally Deoxys attacks exact stats totalling to 600) but instead the same spread of, A decent amount of speed, High attacking stats and Barely anything in terms of health and defensive stats. However most Ice types get stats that look like Bastiodon's which is NOT what Ice was built for it was like two people are responsible for ice types, one person who made the typing had an idea to make it a glass cannon focused type, meanwhile the person responisble for giving pokemon these typing, they wanted to make Ice a typing that is built like a tank
due to it being a glacier, it's entirely reasonable that in a future game, they could slap water type on regular Avalugg and call it a day, would they actually do it? i doubt it but it's a fully justified change if they do it since it makes sense for the design and would help it out
I think the main reason they gave H-Avalugg a move that has a chance to flinch so it'd encourage players to use it in trick room teams. Even then, they didn't need to give it such trash typing 😭
Snow giving ice types a defense boost makes body press on avalugg so much scarier. Plus Ice body can make up for the lack of leftovers if you run boots. I like avalugg, I think it's neat.
I used Avalugg as a core member of my story team in Scarlet, I've been looking for a chance to use it since its introduction and it's so fun for me I love the design and bulky hard hitting statline. Best table ever
I play with hisuian avalugg in PU as a suicide lead. It's not actually horrible at its role. Turn 1 would be stealth rock, and there'd be two options my opponent could do, attack or not attack. If my opponent attacks, it procts custap because for some godforsaken reason it consistantly gets to custap range. Then i throw either mountain gale or rock blast then die. If my opponent switches, i can just throw mountain gale/rock blast and kill whatever's in front of me. Sometimes i actually attack first (like if i see a decidueye or staraptor lead) since i can custap stealth rocks (or better yet, not even get attacked as my opponent thinks its setup fodder). I think i used it as a defensive wall like, once. and I dont recall ever using tera on it. If my opponent knows what theyre doing then havalugg click rocks then dies.
I also wanna point out, with rapid spin, a +1 speed boost is not that slow in PU. I have actually had mountain gale flinches before against slower threats. the 85 accuracy HURTS when it misses but stealth rock is so valuable that it isnt a 5v6 unless i play really dumb
I believe that creating Pokemon antithetical to that type's strengths is GameFreak's litmus test on if that type should be buffed or not. A super bulky ice type didn't work? Boom, now we have Snow instead of hail.
Hisuian Avalugg trades sp def in exchange for a sp def boost in the sand. On paper its strictly an upgrade since with weather factored, it has more resistances, better bulk, and higher damage output. They just forgot the part where making it either weak to or quad weak to everything except normal types is not fixed even under the most optimal buffs given.
The one thing about hiusi lugg having a worse defensive type is it’s already basically a dedicated tera mon with the normal form with just how much benefit losing ice type gives. If you are using a lugg team you are probably teraing with it the moment it enters the field so the worse typing doesn’t matter as much as you’d initially expect.And if you wanted to run tera dark on avalugg having strong jaw boosted crunches makes hiusi lugg favorable. This is notable because ghost are a very common switch in to lugg both because of the commonality of body press being the main form of offense on lugg and to spin block. So when lugg comes out there be rocks on the field and the opponent tries to spin block you can just nom that ghost instead of clicking rapid spin because it’s just that common a reaction and get rid of the spin blocker so you can remove hazards. This is the only real reason to consider hiusi lugg and it will probably be gone next gen but it’s something I guess.
I legit think the logic behind gamefreak was "ice is a bad defensive type" so instead of addressing rhe flaws they decided to pump tons of defense into it
Under Snow, Avalugg can have a ~700 defense Body Press (and Ice Body + Leftovers give it 1/8 HP regen per turn!), and I will forever love it for that, especially as an Ice Type Monotype player! no idea what the plan for hisuian was though lol
*fist bumps Avalugg*
Avalugg: 💀
It's special?
@@implying8903 x4 weak to fighting
Me when I accidentally bump into avalugg (it's body press.)
**Smacks Top Of Hisuian Avalugg**
"This bad boy ca-"
**Fû¢king Shatters**
Don't worry, it's got sturdy 😎
Hello and thank you so much for attending my presentation. Give avalugg 300 base speed. Thank you so much for watching.
better idea, give it speed boost. Just like an avalanche, glacially (heh) slow until it picks up speed and mass then it can sweep (heh) almost anything aside.
Bullet/mach punch go brr
@@june9914Still eats that up.
Honestly the worst change Hisuian Avalugg received is it receiving +10 Speed (up to a whopping 38!)
@@TheForgidbearbackers Vacuum Wave goes brrrrr
Hisuian avalugg is part rock type to show WHY its not around in modern times anymore.
Cuz it died to a sneeze from every Pokémon in existence
Waiter! Waiter! More 4x weaknesses to common types please!
gamefreak designing bulky mons: "OK we flip a coin, heads it's unkillable tails it's weak to l i t e r a l l y e v e r y t h i n g"
Avalugg is the greatest Pokémon of all time. I love it when he gets onto the field and says his iconic catchphrase, “It’s TIME to 𝓛𝓾𝓰𝓰” and then he luggs all over the opponent’s Pokémon. Gives me goosebumps every single time.
Avalugg is just a victim of Pokemon's lopsided elemental chart.
Game freak "aight we heard your compliants"
Proceeds to give avalugg fairy + steel type + intimidate
i dont think it is. i think it being a defensive ice type, with ice’s weakness, is its gimmick, why it exists in the first place. if ice wasnt bad at defense, avalugg wouldn’t exist.
@@AbsurdAsparagus that would make sense if other mons werent minmaxxed to hell and back, ice types just got the short end of the stick
It would be a lot better if quad weaknesses weren't a thing. Just make it so super effective damage - whether it's effective against one or both of a mon's types - just do 2x damage. That would make a lot of dual-type mons more balanced.
And it's not like that would automatically make dual-typing better than mono-types, having 2 types would still open you up to more weaknesses, but at least you wouldn't be vulnerable to quad weaknesses.
If they wanted to take a less extreme approach, they could just make an ability that does what I'm describing, and give it to Avalugg.
@@bugjamsFilter or Solid Rock?
Whoever came with the idea of H-Avalugg being ice/rock should be terminated 😅
Upon reflection, GF designed a new regional Avalugg. It's Rock/Ground type and its only Ground type move is Mud Bomb
Not really; it just shows that a Pokemon isn't always meant to be good in competition....
It's a fine Pokemon on it's own. Just not good for competition.... and that's okay....
@@TheDeathmailbut it’s not even fine on its own. In casual play this supposedly defensive wall dies to everything, with no speed to allow it to ever do anything. I’d argue it’s even worse in casual.
I get what they were trying to do. They wanted to make be able to be used in both snow and sandstorm, it would have been an interesting niche, if they gave it some way to compensate for its abysmal typing. Like idk, having an ability that halved all super effective damage or made it immune to fighting types.
@@jeffersonhulbert8399 " They wanted to make be able to be used in both snow and sandstorm"
Not with that 36 SpD
I love EWGF's alter ego, EnragedWindGirlFriend
You forgot to mention the """Best""" part of Hisuian Avalugg.
Not only did they give it a signature move that flinches, but they also buffed it's speed, but only to a mere 38. So not only is it to slow to actually flinch anything regularly, but it's also to fast in trick room to out-speed common Trick Room threats like Hatterrene or Amoongus. Something that regular Avalugg itself is more than capable of.
They made Hisuian Avalugg worse at the one thing it should be halfway-decent at. It's genuinly incredibly how badly designed this thing is.
I get comments like this sometimes so I want to clarify: a pokemon's worth isn't only its competitive viability. even though avalugg isn't that good in competitive, i still like it, both for in-game and out-of-game traits. however, hisuian avalugg just doesn't add anything interesting. strong jaw isn't that good for it, the stat changes don't mean anything, and the rock type is a pure detriment. i just with it was more unique.
The design isn't anything interesting either being honest. It's literally the worst Hisuian form both in and out competitive.
I like the visual design of its jaw. Reminds me of snowplow blades.
@@thementalorder1233the coolest thing it does is the boss fight against the giant one. In every other way it's a massive downgrade from the base form.
There was a video on I think Pinkacross' channel about how broken Avalugg is similar to reuniclus in old gens an optimally played game always ends in an Avalugg setup-war.
It was uploaded on 1/4.
I found it to be very informative
/s
also its ugly and also it killed my family
When I heard Avalugg was getting a new form, I was initially so excited because I really liked him conceptually, but couldn’t properly use him. Hisuian Avalugg is so bad that I was essentially using 5 Pokemon in Legends Arceus and it made the final Volo fight absurdly hard.
Fortunately, Ursaluna is an absolute tank. He took out like, half of Volo's team for me.
@@RorikHso is Walrein.
"Damn, that mon sure is bulky and slow! Give it the ice type, pronto!"
"OK, it didn't go well so we're making a new form... Let's give it rock to show how Bulky it can really be!"
Ah, the premier assassin type with exactly one fast pivot for four gens.
I wish avalugg got snow warning, the gen 9 snow buff would make it physically unbreakable.
@@Miguel_I_guess at least it can heal himself with ice body
the thumbnail could be said for almost any "defensive" ice type (the primary exception is calyrex-ice, but that's only redeemed thanks to it's attack power + trick room synergy)
Calling calyrex defensive is kinda funny. Like I guess so? Like yeah nuking all your opponents to death DOES sound like a pretty solid defense gotta say
more in that calyrex ice has some pretty impressive defence stats (100 hp, 150 def, 130 sp.def)
okay so i probably should clarify, calling calyrex-ice a defensive pokemon is definitely kinda a stretch, my main point is just that it's a rather bulky ice type that isn't even used for being a bulky ice type, which really goes to show just how bad defensive ice types are lol
What would make a bulky Ice type? 255 in HP, Defense, and Special Defense?
@@iantaakalla8180 theres Pulse Avalugg from pokemon reborn
Calyrex-Ice uses weakness policy because its typing is that bad lmao
Crazy to think that the biggest buffs that Ice types got this gen was the ability to make themselves NOT Ice types.
I think EWGF loses her shit is my new favorite segment.
The 'her' confused me with the voice.
she's trans, yes.
Her name is Electric Wind "Girl" Friend.
@@leo131ftw If that part turned out to be a joke or reference, it would not be the first time.
I thought I was gonna see Avalugg slander and got sad but THANK GOD ITS JUST HISUIAN AVALUGG THAT THING IS A STAIN ON MY COFFEE TABLE'S NAME MAN
Hisuian Avalugg is a sad joke. Like someone at GF must have personally hated it to make such a catastrophic failure out of Avalug
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 “What if we made Avalugg but it fucking sucked lmao”
Last time I used Hisuian Avalugg it was with a friend who fucking LOVES dogshit pokemon and the entire time me and them were just making fun of how bad H-Avalugg was while also pretending to play it up as the most dangerous aspect of our team, having both lead off against eachother and then just body pressing eachother until one of them died. Good times.
he's NOT a disaster. he's my Friend
Not that it's related to your channel's scope at all, but Hisuian-Avalugg is actually a beast in Pokemon Go. Master League PvP (which could be considered the Ubers, but without any Megas) is full of strong dragons, grounds, and flying types, and solely lacking in ice types. H-Avalugg takes advantage of Ice's great offensive capabilities against these top types while also being able to beat out many neutral matchups such as Mewtwo with it's lopsided stat distribution and moveset making it very tanky in Go. The rock typing even helps more than regular Avalugg's typing, since it lets H-Avalugg be a great response to Ho-Oh and Lugia by resisting flying and taking neutral from fire. It's not a perfect pokemon, but it's funny to see H-Avalugg be so awful in main series while also being able to compete with box legendaries in Go.
and some how, Zygarde in GO is worse
This applies to Galarian Stunfisk as well, only in Great and Ultra Leagues
How do you even get H-Lugg in GO, anyway?
@Hunter_6430
Raids. Gotta wait until it rotates back in or gets a raid day.
Me with a shiny h avalugg in Go learning this: ah, but i don't have the dust ...
EWGF to pure Ice typing after seeing Ice/Rock: Perhaps I treated you too harshly...
I never thought avalugg could mog anything, much less itself, til H-avalugg came out
Game Freak knew they finally made a (semi) good defensive Ice-type and thoroughly apologized for it with Hisuian Avalugg.
I would argue that Hisuian Avalugg was designed and balanced around the different battle style of Legends: Arceus. As in, almost every battle difference is in its favor. To detail it more:
The grit items and the way speed tiering works in Legends: Arceus mean that its speed can actually be passable enough to not constantly be attacked twice in a row. Combined with Mountain Gale, Rock Slide, and Iron Head, which all delay opponents' actions, it can stall out the action order decently effectively. The different damage formula works too, as it can take about half from a max investment Close Combat and then do that action order thing I talked about. Not to mention there's no flinching (bad for any slow defensive mon), Stealth Rock works as a weak chip damage over time move instead of an entry hazard, and its typing matches decently well into major battles after you get access to it. Put that in a mainline Pokemon game and it all falls apart at the seams.
I think Hisuian Avalugg is the proof we needed that sometimes gamefreak just does random shit.
From shiny colors to entire pokemon, sometimes they just say "fuck it, randomize" and call it a day. All the other questionable decisions at least made this theory comfortably "tinfoil hat", but Hisuian Avalugg is so mind boggling it actually cant be explained.
I adore the visual design on H-Avalugg, so naturally it hurt to see it folding under just about every element. On a future playthrough I'm likely running this guy, so I may have a rough time.
the powerpoint note that just says “EWGF loses her shit” 😂😂😂
H-Avalugg sitting with Aurorus at the "Stillborn Kit due to dogwater type combos" table, it makes me really really sad
THE THUGG IS IN
I also was severely surprised when I saw Rock instead of something like Ground or Steel, either of which would have been Nuts.
But...Rock? Seriously? I...why?
They shoulda made him ice flying, i want avalugg to be able to fly
Ice steel is still kinda ass - 2x weakness to fire and fighting (really common offensive types) SUCK (source: I tried playing alolan sandslash). Ice ground however?? Now we’re cooking!
Gamefreak seems to not know their own types, treating types like rock and ice as if they were defensive oriented types rather than glass canons as when we think or rocks or ice, we think of them as being defensive and solid. Either that or it was created more to look cool and like it *could* be defensive
@@jootersblaccat it is not that they don't know.
You people must ubderstand that pokemons are not designed lime LoL champions, they are designed like MTG cards. Not everything ia meant to be used at high level of play. And some things really only exist as "pokedex fillers".
Flavour fir them matter a lot and thus if a type represent something solid and inert, that translate to high defense and low speed. Sticking to "type identity" for them is more important than competotive viability, wich kinda makes sense when 99% of the playerbase do not play compatitive at all.
Avalugg is one of my favorite pokemon and it always hurts seeing the ice type getting fucked over.
I loovee Hisuian Avalugg's design (& the base form) but oh my goD rock&ice??????? 😭
Turn it into a trick room sweeper and now ice and rock is good offensively and can flinch with mountain gale
Gets outsped by litterly lightning regi in the room
Raging Bolt with priority Thunderclap, hitting HAvalugg's 36 SpD - "Well, good luck babe"
We can mock Avalugg now, but just you wait till Legends ZA makes us pay for our sins with Mega Avalugg: A pure-Ice Type with a Defense stat of 230, 130 Special Defense (loses 30 Special Attack lol), and its Ability becomes Wonderful Magic Guard which combines Wonder Guard & Magic Guard so it ONLY takes damage from direct attacks and they HAVE to be super-effective.
Ice-type? More like... uh...
... Untreated Glass-type.
>gigantic steel jaw
>becomes ice-rock instead
I have a feeling art direction and game balance had some disagreements
I Think ground is better as with Steel it has a 4 times weakness to fire and fighting
Hisui Dex entry:
"The armor of ice covering its lower jaw puts steel to shame and can shatter rocks with ease. This Pokémon barrels along steep mountain paths, cleaving through the deep snow."
Puts steel to shame.
PUTS STEEL TO SHAME.
Laughs in Flash Cannon
Just another case of TPC thinking first of design and no thinking at all of viability:
"He looks like a rock so we should make it part rock type"
I never realized it was supposed to be a physical counterpart to blissey, that just makes it so much worse
My headcanon is that Avalugg evolved out of having the Rock typing its Hisuian variant has because it kept getting decimated.
Therefore, if we ever get a Paradox Future Avalugg (Iron Slab or something idk) it'll be mono-water or water/steel (because the ice wil melt) and will define OU for generations.
You know a 'mon has wasted potential when girl has to go off script to properly express her disappointment
Oh, I used to love bringing Avalugg into OU in Gen 7 matches. Simple yet effective tool of mass destruction:
Give it max DEF and HP,
Protect (Maybe Iron Defense + Body Press if you really wanna mess people up), avalanche, recover and MIRROR CAPE and laugh as you survive every physical attack coming your way while chipping them away with a rocky helmet (I've been called a cheater for surviving a boosted mega Blaziken's high jump kick with ease.)
And when they figure out that they need a special attack to one shot you:
Survive with 1 HP thanks to sturdy and blast their special sweeper into space with mirror cape. I love this strat and have killed way too many OU mons like that.
The way they were gassing up His Lugg in the dialogue of Legends Arceus I was legitimately thinking it would be part ground type, hell even a goddamn dragon given that he was LoA's equivalent to a final gym leader so needless to say my disappointment was immeasurable and my day was ruined upon figuring out its type...
b-but its neutral against fire now... 😀
🎉🎉🎉Yippie!🎉🎉🎉
Meanwhile it prolly Still takes 60+% from neutral fire attacks
252+ SpA Delphox Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg-Hisui: 322-379 (81.7 - 96.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Solar Power Charizard Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg-Hisui in Sun: 700-825 (177.6 - 209.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg-Hisui: 519-612 (131.7 - 155.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Ninetales Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg-Hisui in Sun: 385-454 (97.7 - 115.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
@@dse763 thousand yard stare:
@@klumpeus Why my post got fucking deleted ?!?!
Fucking stop, Google !
I'm an Avalugg apologist. Yes; it's not good in competitive. But the thing was an absolute badass in my Scarlet Nuzlocke. It just hard countered virtually every physical attacker; even tanking Booster Energy Roaring Moon and blasting it back with Avalanche. It didn't even take close to half from a +1 Roaring Moon's super-effective attack.
So I'll always have a soft spot for the dumb ice block because used well; the thing is a godsend in Nuzlockes.
This makes me wonder. If Ice types had actual defensive utility, as for example, resisting Water and Flying, how good would they be? Hisuian Avalugg would still suck tho.
def way better. just having some reasonable defensive presence would be a GODSEND
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend Also, talking about this, what would be any good reasonable buff that would benefit any underwhelming type as a whole without them being broken?
@@thementalorder1233 Bug resisting Fairy, Poison and/or Ice being strong against Water
@@edgargaebolg9307 THIS PLEASE
Ice/Joke type. You sneeze on that poor thing with any kind of special move and it's lights out.
My goat H-Avalugg is putting some numbers in my trick room team with Loaded Dice, Icicle Spear and Rock Blast (those numbers are zero) (I love H-avalugg specifically so much)
Avalugg is a titanic failure.
I still love Avalugg incredibly
With how cool it is, how good utility it has (recover, rapid spin, wide guard) and solid stats it is quite sad how underwhelming it is :(. What could even be done about it, give it a better ability? I have no idea... Still love avalugg tho.
Game Freak so often doesn't seem to understand their own damn game. Even from the beginning, they want to make these huge and sturdy Rock-types but make Rock weak to so many things. Same with Ice, and then they make so many supposedly bulky Ice and Rock types which get obliterated because of their awful resistances. See also incidents like Dark Void, where they prevented Smeargle from Sketching it and then nerfed it anyway.
Game Freak be like: "Let's make these big tanky Pokémon but they totally crumble under basic karate moves."
Some Hisuian forms feel like they should've (or could've) survived to the present day, but (and I say this as a board-certified Avaluvver) it's no wonder H-Avalugg died off
Seriously wondering why tf Sneasler died off
As Avalugg's biggest fan, I can confirm he sucks :(
But at least he doesn't suck as much as Hisuian Avalugg LMFAOOOO
im avaluggs biggest fan
I can't believe they actually gave Hisuian Avalugg more speed. It is still slow as malassis, but now is worse in Trick Room than standard Avalugg.
I really feel that Gamefreak just has moments between cutting corners and axing vital parts of the game where their just like "Yeah, put that in. I wanna see how they'll feel about fucking this up like this" and then they all laugh for the remaining 8 minutes the games is left in production for.
I deadass thought hisui-avalugg was ground-ice. WHY WAS IT ROCK.
I see those giant knives on his face and thought hisuin avalugg was going to be an ice/steel type, which would still make it suffer against fighting and fire but at least would give it a couple resistances
I used Avalugg on ny first playthtough of XY and it put in work where i needed it, but it still dropped to literally any special hit which was always depressing. It is such a cool mon and gamefreak did it so dirty
Make ice a powerful offensive type
Keep making slow bulky ice types with trash special defense
even more stupid is that they gave h-avalugg strong jaw and its only stab biting move is ice fang, it's rock head aerodactyl all over again
My biggest gripe with Avalugg-Hisui is that it's _faster_ than its base form, which is bad due to it being slower in Trick Room compared to its base form, so it needs an item like Macho Brace to under-speed some threats.
Ice / Rock has some offensive potential, but its stats let it down.
Avalugg has a niche use in gen 8 VGC: it gets own tempo, and dmax made it pretty sturdy. You pair it with Prankster Thundurus, dynamax Avalugg, use Swagger on it, and punch some holes in teams.
they probably gave hisuian avalugg +10 extra base speed to make mountain gale better on it, but they also failed to consider that it's still a fucking avalugg, also giving it strong jaw with a whopping 2 biting moves to use with it, one being ice fang was one of the decisions of all time
any pinkacross fans here, avalugg needs to be banned to ubers.
I do love how many of these videos have a bit where it's just "this Pokemon got a lot better in gen 9 because it can now just stop being a terrible type".
Here’s a story from my first playthrough of Legends Arceus. I had a team planned out consisting of Hisuin Samurott, Hisuian Arcanine, Ursaluna, Hisuian Goodra, Raichu, and Hisuian Avalugg. Avalugg was the last member of the team (duh) and I wanted to give it a try because I liked the rusty (looking) design of H-Avalugg. As I trained Avalugg and got him caught up to the team I noticed how often he got knocked out during training. “No issue” I thought and continued using him. However due to being a late game encounter, he didn’t partake in many fights. But before the post game I used Avalugg in the battle against Kamado. In the battle it got destroyed by his Snorlax after missing the 95 accurate Mountain Gale. “That sucks…” I thought, I continued forward and proceeded to finish the main story and start the post game. When it came time for the Volo fight I was severely underleveled and loss on my first attempt. So I grinded the entire team up to his level and went in again. I wanted Avalugg to knockout Volo’s Garchomp with Mountain Gale but I kept getting one-shot by Earth Power. This confused me at first but it was a crit so brushed it off and took another L. I grinded again and proceeded to lose again. At this point I am 10 levels higher than Volo’s entire team and Avalugg is getting one shot by earth powers and Close Combats. He outspeeds nothing but is getting one-shot. I decided to max Avaluggs level and go again. Yet again he got one-shot by earth power for context, special attack is Garchomp’s “weakest” stat (80) and yet it kept one-shorting my max special defense (with a Sp. Def nature) Hisuian Avalugg. After losing YET again, I finally looked at my teams stats and I kid you not. I wasn’t prepared to see that my max-leveled Avalugg had a Special defense below 100! This left me slack-jawed and I was just so mad because Avalugg has done nothing but get one-shot every time I send him out to battle. So I decided to box him and pull out the Jolly Petill I caught and evolve her into a Hisuian Lilligant and grind her up to level 60 (about 10 levels lower than Volo’s team). And wow, just wow. In her first and only fight Hisuian Lilligant managed to set up a victory dance and proceeded to defeat Volo’s Lucario, Garchomp and deal damage to his Hisuin Arcanine before falling. Hisuian Lilligant managed to do more in one fight than what Hisuian Avalugg has done for me the entire game! Although I still lost that fight, I was just beyond happy to finally know I could beat Volo’s team. After taking the 23 L, I grinded up the team consisting of Hisuian Samurott, Raichu, Ursaluna, Hisuian Goodra, Hisuian Arcanine and Hisuian Lilligant and returned to fight Volo. But I wasn’t losing. I went in to this fight knowing I will win. It won’t happen later, this happens now. And after Lilligant managed to defeat Lucario, Garchomp, and Arcanine before falling to Togekiss, I faced Giratina and after defeating both forms. I won. I beat the Volo fight and my love for Hisuian Lilligant skyrocketed unlike any Pokémon before. I deeply regret passing her by not giving a thought about using her. But after what she did for me in the Volo fight, I can confidently say she is now my 2nd favorite Grass type of all time and is easily in my top 30 (or 40) favorite Pokémon of all time. Hisuian Avalugg on the other hand became one of my least favorite Pokémon. Down there with Hypno. But unlike Hypno, who I dislike mostly for it’s design. H-Avalugg I dislike entirely because it can’t do a damn thing if hit by a decent special attack. Plus it’s a slow bulky ice type, a type of Pokémon that has rarely worked and will hardly ever work (seriously why do they keep making physically slow bulky ice types, it’s the worst type defensively, just stop). Hisuian Avalugg is the definition of a frustrating Pokémon because although it has lopsided stats with an awful defensive typing, it has some great moves and awesome abilities yet it can’t use them effectively. Something like Mamoswine would love Mountain Gale as a spammable Ice move, but it can’t because (as of now) it’s the signature move of Hisuian Avalugg, a Pokémon who absolutely doesn’t deserve to move because of its laundry list of flaws. My first ever playthrough of Legenda Arceus is something I’ll always remember as itwas the first and only time I ever used a Hisuian Avalugg. I hope to never use one again
This thing was my Baxcalibur check when bax was still legal. Body press is an amazing buff. Also this thing is S tier in inverse battles where weaknesses and resistances are swapped.
So, before Indigo Disk in which GameFreak fixed Geeta’s team, when I fought her for the first time:
*Geeta sends out Gogoat* “Okay, weird choice for a champion to have, but I’ll go with it.”
*Geeta sends out Avalugg* “Ok, now you’re just throwing.”
The way you deliver the "unfortunately" in this video reminds me of Kellen from FSG talking about pokemon that have fallen from grace lol
The one potential use case for Hisuian Avalugg is as a trick room sweeper because of its higher attack and extra stab type, plus mountain gale can actually flinch. Although they made it 10 points faster for some reason, while it's still slow enough to not matter those points would be better anywhere else
Ice Type is such a sad typing since it was built to be a glass cannon like Typing with its lack of resistances, however the Pokemon that got the Ice typing were NOT Glass cannons.
There are only TWO real Ice types that follow what Ice was supposed to be: Fast, High attack and or special attack and No health and defence. And those two Ice types are:
Weavile
Chien-Pao
There are probably more Fast high damage and low survivability Ice types but those are the two main ones I can think of.
The rest of the Ice types with exeptions like Kyurem and Baxscalibur who are powerful for their stats as Legendries and Pseudo legendries
You got Ice types who are defensive walls that DO NOT WORK as defensive walls thanks to their Ice typing:
Lapras
Abomasnow
Mamoswine
Regice
Walren
Avalugg
This is just sad to see, because Ice is a type where the stat spread should look like Deoxys-attack form (Not literally Deoxys attacks exact stats totalling to 600) but instead the same spread of, A decent amount of speed, High attacking stats and Barely anything in terms of health and defensive stats. However most Ice types get stats that look like Bastiodon's which is NOT what Ice was built for it was like two people are responsible for ice types, one person who made the typing had an idea to make it a glass cannon focused type, meanwhile the person responisble for giving pokemon these typing, they wanted to make Ice a typing that is built like a tank
coffee table
Do you think they meant to give it a ground secondary typing and forgot to fix it
its possible, rock is just so nonsensical
due to it being a glacier, it's entirely reasonable that in a future game, they could slap water type on regular Avalugg and call it a day, would they actually do it? i doubt it but it's a fully justified change if they do it since it makes sense for the design and would help it out
I think the main reason they gave H-Avalugg a move that has a chance to flinch so it'd encourage players to use it in trick room teams. Even then, they didn't need to give it such trash typing 😭
Snow giving ice types a defense boost makes body press on avalugg so much scarier. Plus Ice body can make up for the lack of leftovers if you run boots. I like avalugg, I think it's neat.
I used Avalugg as a core member of my story team in Scarlet, I've been looking for a chance to use it since its introduction and it's so fun for me I love the design and bulky hard hitting statline. Best table ever
I play with hisuian avalugg in PU as a suicide lead. It's not actually horrible at its role.
Turn 1 would be stealth rock, and there'd be two options my opponent could do, attack or not attack.
If my opponent attacks, it procts custap because for some godforsaken reason it consistantly gets to custap range. Then i throw either mountain gale or rock blast then die.
If my opponent switches, i can just throw mountain gale/rock blast and kill whatever's in front of me.
Sometimes i actually attack first (like if i see a decidueye or staraptor lead) since i can custap stealth rocks (or better yet, not even get attacked as my opponent thinks its setup fodder).
I think i used it as a defensive wall like, once. and I dont recall ever using tera on it. If my opponent knows what theyre doing then havalugg click rocks then dies.
I also wanna point out, with rapid spin, a +1 speed boost is not that slow in PU. I have actually had mountain gale flinches before against slower threats. the 85 accuracy HURTS when it misses but stealth rock is so valuable that it isnt a 5v6 unless i play really dumb
I don't understand why Hisuian Avalugg isn't Ice/Ground.
Is that Jackie Bradley Jr. in a PowerPoint about Avalugg being a disaster?????????
Fun Fact 1: Avalugg is my favorite ice type!
Fun Fact 2: *_I'm going to throttle whoever was in charge of making Hisiuan Avalugg._*
The difference between how GameFreak designs Rock & Ice types mechanically versus how they design them thematically is staggering.
I don't care what you say, Avalugg on its own made Gen 6 worth it.
I can sense the passion of Avalugg through the off script section
I believe that creating Pokemon antithetical to that type's strengths is GameFreak's litmus test on if that type should be buffed or not. A super bulky ice type didn't work? Boom, now we have Snow instead of hail.
Somehow, I literally didn't even know this thing existed.
Hisuian Avalugg trades sp def in exchange for a sp def boost in the sand. On paper its strictly an upgrade since with weather factored, it has more resistances, better bulk, and higher damage output.
They just forgot the part where making it either weak to or quad weak to everything except normal types is not fixed even under the most optimal buffs given.
The one thing about hiusi lugg having a worse defensive type is it’s already basically a dedicated tera mon with the normal form with just how much benefit losing ice type gives. If you are using a lugg team you are probably teraing with it the moment it enters the field so the worse typing doesn’t matter as much as you’d initially expect.And if you wanted to run tera dark on avalugg having strong jaw boosted crunches makes hiusi lugg favorable. This is notable because ghost are a very common switch in to lugg both because of the commonality of body press being the main form of offense on lugg and to spin block. So when lugg comes out there be rocks on the field and the opponent tries to spin block you can just nom that ghost instead of clicking rapid spin because it’s just that common a reaction and get rid of the spin blocker so you can remove hazards. This is the only real reason to consider hiusi lugg and it will probably be gone next gen but it’s something I guess.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the time avalug was ou in gen 7 as a one of the only reliable counters to kyurem-black with a z-cristal
Avalugg can take 20839 megaton nukes, hisuian avalugg can take itself to the cemetery and bury itself.
Hisuian Avalugg looks so cool, I love the rocky, not-quite-frozen-over glacier design. I wish it was better!
I legit think the logic behind gamefreak was "ice is a bad defensive type" so instead of addressing rhe flaws they decided to pump tons of defense into it
You can tell that's what they thought by reworking hail into snow for more defense. Then again, they also made Chien-Pao and Iron Bundle
I always felt like it could NOT be an accident. Someone on the design team was trolling, everything is so intentionally useless
Simply inspirational. Thank you for giving this Ted Talk.
Under Snow, Avalugg can have a ~700 defense Body Press (and Ice Body + Leftovers give it 1/8 HP regen per turn!), and I will forever love it for that, especially as an Ice Type Monotype player!
no idea what the plan for hisuian was though lol
Imagine if Avalugg was a fairy or ghost type. It would be the perfect foil to Blissey.
You know it is serious when EWGF literally goes off script to rant. Glad you’re doing well out here
Its defences were so good it didn't have a single R34 art for the longest time!