Trying Gouache for the First Time

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  • @trlan55
    @trlan55 4 роки тому +87

    A gouache artist that I like to watch is James Gurney. He uses a combination of watercolor and gouache to paint with. I think you'll see that when using the gouache right out of the tube, you'll get that opaqueness that you need. Thanks for the video.

  • @mushroomrisotto2556
    @mushroomrisotto2556 4 роки тому +31

    You should use synthetic, hard brushes to use gouache to achieve the opaqueness that you desire since they don’t hold much water and helps a lot on the process of layering, I hope this helps!

    • @mushroomrisotto2556
      @mushroomrisotto2556 4 роки тому +3

      also, if the gouache has too much water, it will get very transparent and dissolve to each other creating a mess, but your art style looks beautiful with gouache and I’m looking forward to see more videos about gouache on your channel

  • @starshinesoldier
    @starshinesoldier 4 роки тому +8

    I used Gouache in a design class, the key is to add only a little water, the paint should be thicker, not as watery as you had it. You also need a stiffer brush. Golden taklon on is best. The black is to mix darker shades and the white is to mix lighter tints.

  • @berika6
    @berika6 4 роки тому +43

    Hello Teoh! Those brushes hold a lot of water, maybe that's why you didn't get the coverage you wanted right away with that highlight on the wall. I am so excited for your videos they brighten my days.

    • @jonmahashintina
      @jonmahashintina 4 роки тому +3

      it's somewhat like acrylic, you want your brush to be damp, but not dripping, to help the paint flow without becoming transparent.

    • @SheridansSojourn
      @SheridansSojourn 4 роки тому +4

      Yes! Theo is using a Black Velvet brush, which is great for watercolor. However, I find synthetic taklon brushes ideal for painting gouache. Keep your gouache creamy by keeping a small spray bottle of water to spritz it. If you are using a sealed, stay-moist pallet, make sure to add a little hydrogen peroxide to the water in your spray bottle to keep your gouache free of mold. (In humid environments this in an issue.) I use M. Graham and it is great to re-wet--just give it a little time to get creamy. I've never used W&N so I don't know how it re-wets.

  • @joeblankenship377
    @joeblankenship377 4 роки тому +21

    Check out Myriam Tillson on UA-cam. She's got an in-depth gouache tutorial she uploaded not long ago and she does amazing art with gouache. I'm planning to dive into her gouache tutorials soon since I'm stuck at home and ain't going nowhere.

  • @SheridansSojourn
    @SheridansSojourn 4 роки тому +6

    Even though gouache is water-soluble, it should be painted almost like oil paint. What's wonderful about gouache is that, like oil, you can paint fat over lean. That is, you can paint a thin watery layer first, and then paint over it with a thick creamy opaque layer. Unlike oil, you can easily disrupt dry underlayers if you are not careful. This is blessing if you know how to use it. Thank you, stay well, and cheers!

    • @muskndusk
      @muskndusk 3 роки тому +1

      To avoid disrupting the layers already painted make sure they are truly dry and use a brush which contains the minimum amount of water but nice thick gouache, and use a light touch.

  • @EstrafaDC
    @EstrafaDC 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for keeping up the videos Teoh. I'm glad you and your family are well. This special time can result in new art and new creativity from all of us who have to stay at home. Sending you good thoughts and wishes from the United States!!

  • @BlueStar7496
    @BlueStar7496 3 роки тому +1

    Have you considered trying gouache again? I would love to see you paint with it again. I can learn a lot from just watching you. I really like how this turned out.

  • @VonderfulVal
    @VonderfulVal 4 роки тому +3

    Teoh! I’m so happy you made this video. Gouache is personally my favorite medium to use. And let me tell you, painting on wood with gouache is a DREAM, (I rarely paint with gouache on paper) not only because the wood color allows the gouache to really POP (and being able to create your own highlights beyond on the picture itself), but because of how it both sinks into the grain as well as beautifully sits on top of it❤️❤️❤️❤️. OH and synthetic brushes work better, but I’m sure everyone else has already mentioned that by now😂

  • @kayecurren3342
    @kayecurren3342 2 роки тому +1

    I like your greenhouse better than the book greenhouse. The book arrives at my house next week. I like her projects. Thank you.

  • @KoriandrOfTheStars
    @KoriandrOfTheStars 4 роки тому +34

    Look at you. You already mastered the medium Teoh get away from me lol

    • @getsomecolourinyourlifedav2478
      @getsomecolourinyourlifedav2478 4 роки тому +4

      😂😂

    • @recoveringsoul755
      @recoveringsoul755 4 роки тому +1

      At this point, I really don't think he can do anything Badly. First try and he does a more difficult example from the book ,and it's beautiful

  • @liezelhaupt7172
    @liezelhaupt7172 4 роки тому +2

    SO good for a first time! I also used too much water in the beginning. It is typical when you come from using watercolor. I hope to see more of your gouache paintings! 😃

  • @hanahle985
    @hanahle985 4 роки тому

    Gouache is love!!!!! I love how versatile it is!!!!

  • @icanhazKnit
    @icanhazKnit 4 роки тому

    Its cool to see you out of your element! 😍 I would love to see more gouache paintings by you, and see how you learn/develop.

  • @darlened9631
    @darlened9631 4 роки тому

    Teoh, thank you so much for this video. I've been considering trying gouache for a while now, and your video is very helpful. I think I'll go ahead and give it a try. Take good care!

  • @susansacco7583
    @susansacco7583 4 роки тому

    I love your greenhouse. It really is vibrant. So pretty.
    I’m sick at home and really enjoying your videos. Thanks Teoh

  • @smithanandari
    @smithanandari 4 роки тому +3

    Great video Teoh! I tried gouache last year, and it was an experience! It has this opaque color like acrylics but can also act like watercolor (I only recommend this as underpainting tho). It forced me to be more decisive in my strokes since adding more layers (like acrylic) won't work! What a unique medium.

  • @veroniquegauthierart
    @veroniquegauthierart 4 роки тому +1

    Great review! Gouache is such a nice medium to paint with.

  • @mandyschmidt7960
    @mandyschmidt7960 4 роки тому

    Was waiting for you to try new stuff, awesome!

  • @ertiebassy3612
    @ertiebassy3612 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for keeping us inspired in Germany!

  • @charlottetisdale
    @charlottetisdale 4 роки тому

    This turned out super lovely!!!

  • @MaryPrasadArt
    @MaryPrasadArt 4 роки тому +1

    I have been watching an amazing artist on Eruda Art channel. He uses a combination of watercolor and poster paint (similar to gouache). Watch one of his speed paintings to see how he layers the paint. Gouache in general needs to be fairly thick, about the consistency of the tube paint with a little water - creamy. You can get similar from dried pans if you pre-wet and leave it for a short time. Note: if you put W&N paints in pans they will likely crack. To prevent this, mix in some humectant like honey and/or vegetable glycerin when putting in pans.

  • @caryl.885
    @caryl.885 4 роки тому

    I was just starting to look into gouache and was checking out earlier if you have any videos on it and suddenly here's one wow

  • @JeanTralala
    @JeanTralala 4 роки тому

    Yay!!!!! Was thinking of getting a set too!!!! Finally!!!!!!!

  • @LeaGalTan
    @LeaGalTan 4 роки тому

    Another terrific video! Your painting is lovely! Now I need to try gouache. Hope you and your family are well.

  • @TheMarkEH
    @TheMarkEH 4 роки тому

    Great video as usual. Thanks Teoh.

  • @mishti06
    @mishti06 4 роки тому

    Excellent work. Hope you do more gouache in the future.

  • @neyruzAJ
    @neyruzAJ 4 роки тому +1

    I remember back days in collage when we been teached to practice a very opaque colours gradiations to the perfection... It was a painful exercise as we had to work on the amount of painting on the brush as the colours get slightly thick on paper.... :) Now days gouache is used more freely as watercolours, but I still love the effect they leave as opaque more, for some reason there are watercolours and gouache ;) xx Thanks for sharing..

  • @karenvc8005
    @karenvc8005 2 роки тому

    I liked your final sketch AND the effects of having both transparent and opaque applications of gouache; it seemed to give the sketch a more painterly effect. Your video reminds me of why I think gouache is such a fun medium. I plan to get a small set for myself, although I'd be interested in a video comparing the two sets featured in this video. I noticed M Graham's box indicated it has honey in it to prevent hardening.

  • @bossbabypaints
    @bossbabypaints 4 роки тому +4

    Hey you should pearfleur's videos very recommend......this greenhouse painting was amazing 🤩🤩

  • @deecozy
    @deecozy 4 роки тому

    Looks awesome!!

  • @kuvira44
    @kuvira44 4 роки тому

    I was so excited to see this video from you Teoh :-)

  • @MegVera
    @MegVera 4 роки тому

    Oohh!! I wanted to try gouache too! Thank you for this video!

  • @BarbrajoanOriginals
    @BarbrajoanOriginals 4 роки тому

    I’ve not tried it yet except for the white now and then. I’m more of a traditionalist with my watercolors using mostly transparent paint. However this looks like fun and for illustration work I think it’s very good. Thanks Teoh for all you do. Stay safe .

  • @hansendesigns
    @hansendesigns 4 роки тому

    Great start. I was excited to see you try gouache because i always thought that , like gel pens and poscas etc, you could add gouache to your arsenal to great effect. :)

  • @lizardltd
    @lizardltd 3 роки тому

    Great vid!

  • @JoAnneMOwens
    @JoAnneMOwens 3 роки тому

    I would love to see you demo the M Graham set, if you get the time to do so. Tfs

  • @suree861
    @suree861 4 роки тому

    I bought a 5 color set winsor and newton designers gouache and boiii i had a LOT of fun with mixing them and storing them on a palette

  • @surveyguyor8958
    @surveyguyor8958 3 роки тому

    very interesting Teoh. Thanks for sharing this. I have not used gouache. I think maybe you're right, on that red if you mixed with white to make it more opaque maybe that would have been the key. well it's very interesting. I would never probably paint oil painting, but perhaps gouache.

  • @allusanchez4206
    @allusanchez4206 4 роки тому

    Awesome workd sir!

  • @treksalzer313
    @treksalzer313 4 роки тому

    I have personally been watching a lot of UA-cam videos on painting with gouache and I heard that it is used best by many of you test it like oil paint as you achieve nice opaque colors throughout . Under paintings I have found are also great with gouache 👍

  • @catherinelevison3310
    @catherinelevison3310 4 роки тому +2

    I’ve been painting with Gouache lately, including today. The results are vivid. They photograph very well. I barely add any water to the paint. The white that comes with the Winsor & Newton is weak. I bought some M. Graham Gouache in open stock and got Titanium White which is stronger. Oddly enough, some light colors dry darker and dark colors can dry lighter. It is backward from watercolor in the planning stages. You think in opposite form from watercolor but it is very rewarding. M. Graham has gorgeous colors, especially the reds!! Thanks!

  • @bigboyanimation3799
    @bigboyanimation3799 4 роки тому

    I tried gouache from 20 years ago and i like it more then watercolor because you can color layer over layer

  • @getsomecolourinyourlifedav2478
    @getsomecolourinyourlifedav2478 4 роки тому +1

    Nice Teo, I've never tried gouache either. Maybe I should try

  • @death__ray
    @death__ray 4 роки тому

    Ohh! I was always curious if you liked gouache or had tried painting with it. Even if it's similar to watercolor I'd love to see some original drawings from you using with gouache. I haven't tried gouache, but I hope I do soon.

  • @cindyhorton6980
    @cindyhorton6980 4 роки тому

    So glad you tried guache!! I knew you'd do very well!! Love it!! I am very interested how the M.Graham will compare. Thank you!!❤️❤️

  • @sisu4134
    @sisu4134 4 роки тому

    I've only dabbled a little with Gouache and watercolor as I mostly paint with Acrylic. Fortunately I've seen a few videos that make Gouache seem not so intimidating and a much better medium than I gave it credit for. Thank you for sharing your experience 🙂

    • @sisu4134
      @sisu4134 4 роки тому

      muted spark - WOW!!!!!!!! and a thousand more "wows" Lol. I just googled Marco Bucci and his paintings are amazing! Thank you for mentioning him 🙂 Wow!

  • @zerocalvin
    @zerocalvin 4 роки тому +7

    well, you can actually use gouche like watercolor, after all it is watercolor... the only differ is, you can use it thickly like painting with arcylic or oil paint.. but you also have an option to use it with a lot of water to get it behave like watercolor.
    you can also do the same thing with normal watercolor but its going to be a bit wasteful since watercolor arent meant to be use so thickly.

  • @lellemaris3731
    @lellemaris3731 4 роки тому

    Lena Rivo makes great art with gouache!

  • @pickinduck
    @pickinduck 4 роки тому +6

    Oh my gouache, this is the same thing that I am doing!
    I started yesterday with trying and playing with my gouache. I just got the CARAN d'ACHE CLASSIC 15 GOUACHE STUDIO and I have some tubes from other makers. I have been using watercolor but find them lacking some times. I am thinking that gouache might suit me better.

  • @socratesthecabdriver
    @socratesthecabdriver 4 роки тому

    i like black on yellow everything :) this is something for me

  • @abegailcaparroso9407
    @abegailcaparroso9407 4 роки тому

    Woah I just posted on how I'm tempted to try gouache and here it is. A video haha

  • @silkspinner7010
    @silkspinner7010 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the review. Could you do a comparison between gouache and gansai. I've been wondering how the two compare with each other and can you use them together.

  • @notaestheticcm
    @notaestheticcm 4 роки тому

    Have you tried Peerless Watercolor sheets? Great video as always!

  • @izabondora
    @izabondora 4 роки тому

    i got so lost in the video. Great content as always!

  • @leahevergreenart
    @leahevergreenart 4 роки тому +1

    Gouache is really fun, I am currently using acrylic gouache. You can water it down just like watercolour but then layer it just like acrylic paints and not have the colours reactivate like you could have happen with traditional gouache. Thank you for making this video, I've been wondering what this paint would be like in real world performance

    • @x-changex-outx-oner8224
      @x-changex-outx-oner8224 4 роки тому

      Acrylic gouache. ...interesting.
      Does it have the same properties as acrylic once dried? [ I would imagine it does ]. I know one can water down acrylic quite a bit and do overlays.
      Sorry for my ignorance never heard of that before (acrylic gouache). Who makes it?

  • @greta5832
    @greta5832 4 роки тому

    How are u so good at art?I love watching ur videos!!!!

  • @lisathaviu1154
    @lisathaviu1154 4 роки тому

    Gouache is quite different than watercolors in some respects. If you want a truly opaque paint, it's important to mix a tiny bit of white into the mix (except for black.) The black gouache is very important - if you want a good dark, you will need to use black because otherwise, you will get mud. Mixing blue and brown will just not do. If you want flat color for the whole painting, you might consider some additional colors because it's really hard to mix exact colors a second time. Gouache painting is a lot like drawing with the paint, unless you adopt a much looser style, which is certainly possible but it's more challenging (at least to me.)
    The previous poster who said that the brushes that you normally use might be problematic is right. I get better results with firmer brushes and much less water - I use one of those water brushes without the water, but any good synthetic would do. The other thing is to mix the paint in a palette if you want a flat color. "Designer" gouache means that it's used for "design" work, i.e., for later reproduction and the paints might not be light fast, (although I think most W&N paint is very light fast.) James Gurney is indeed a good source for gouache instruction. I have been painting models in gouache and I enjoy it, but it's really a test of patience because drying the paint between layers is extremely important. If you want to see some amazing paintings in a gouache-like paint, look at some images of old Persian paintings - they really did some beautiful paintings. Keep at it! It might seem frustrating at first, but I think you could do some great stuff in gouache. Don't forget that you can draw on top of gouache with pastel, charcoal pencils and colored pencils, and I suppose, some markers.

  • @Donna_G
    @Donna_G 4 роки тому

    Lindsay Weirich, the Frugal Crafter has some really nice gouache demos on her UA-cam channel. When you have time, take a look at them. I've tried gouache and wasn't thrilled with; but, I think my mistake was treating it the same as I would regular watercolors. It definitely loses the opaqueness when adding more water.
    Recently, I purchased a set of Golden Open acrylics. It's the landscape set and comes with a warm and cool version of the three primary colors as well as sap green. It also came with a bigger tube of Titanium white and a small bottle of Open thinner. It's a big learning curve for me; because, I haven't used acrylic paints since I was in my late teens and early 20s. Back then, the acrylic paints that I used dried so fast that if I made a mistake, I'd have to just paint over it or some how work it into the painting. I have not come across many tutorials using Open acrylics. But, I'm up for the challenge. What else is there to do?

    • @jonmahashintina
      @jonmahashintina 4 роки тому

      acrylics can be used like gouache, if youre working on paper you can water them down as much as you like for a wash. the different being they wont lift or blend if theyre dry when you go back over them. you could probably replicate this greenhouse exercise in acrylic.

  • @cherripaterson6066
    @cherripaterson6066 4 роки тому

    think gouache paint is pretty nice watching you paint with it, I have never used it before, i guess different techniques are fun to try, depending on what colors your trying to incorporate . sherbear here.

  • @samuso86
    @samuso86 4 роки тому

    I was introduced to gouache through James Gurney's amazing videos. Well worth a look. He also gave me the idea of mixing watercolour with white gouache to turn transparent watercolour into opaque. A neat little trick and great for putting final touches and highlights onto watercolours ;)

  • @AlexYorim
    @AlexYorim 4 роки тому

    Looking back, was the Faber-Castell paintbox you used years ago gouache or were they just watercolors with filler?
    I have a variant of that box where the watercolors are chalky. I kinda keep that box because it had magenta on it, and its white is kinda decent for highlighting.

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  4 роки тому +1

      Those look like gouache

  • @chiarac358
    @chiarac358 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video! What is the brand of your mechanical orange pencil please?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  4 роки тому

      Pilot H-329

    • @chiarac358
      @chiarac358 4 роки тому

      @@teohyc Thank you! It reminds me of the orange Pilot I had in the 1970s, with a removable clip, a metal cap and a retractable sleeve. Sigh...

  • @painovoimaton
    @painovoimaton 4 роки тому +6

    I love painting with gouache, but I can almost never get the thinning right. Always feels like too much or not enough water.

    • @joeblankenship377
      @joeblankenship377 4 роки тому

      Yeah, it's definitely a tricky balancing act. I've done about a dozen attempts with gouache and only one piece was I satisfied with.

    • @painovoimaton
      @painovoimaton 4 роки тому

      I'd love to hear some tips if someone knows

    • @x-changex-outx-oner8224
      @x-changex-outx-oner8224 4 роки тому

      @@painovoimaton
      I was told, one wants the consistency of milk when it comes to mixing water and guache. That's when I went to art school...which was the first time I was introduced to the medium. Also used it in an airbrush.

    • @x-changex-outx-oner8224
      @x-changex-outx-oner8224 4 роки тому

      @Yasmine S.
      Good points. I stand corrected.
      I wonder if my "milk" consistency was more related to the airbrush coarse I took "way back when" in art school for easier flow. But yes, the consistency depends on what one is looking for when it comes to how opaque one wants the paint to be.

  • @TheEnteleqia
    @TheEnteleqia 4 роки тому

    I got so excited when I found this! actually screamed a little. I hope you use gouache again. EDIT: I remembered. I didn't mind the very first yellow watercolorlike layer that you did. I think it looks interesting, I don't know what to think about that rule of mixing white to make it lighter. I hope the color doesn't get muddier that way.

  • @creativesolutions902
    @creativesolutions902 4 роки тому

    I have both of these brands gouache as well, did you find the Windsor and Newton gouache to have a strong smell? Mine is from college it is a little bit old. Not sure if the formula is the same as it is now. Mine has a strong smell… Nice video.. Thank you

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  4 роки тому

      I did not notice any strange smell

  • @richardmika2136
    @richardmika2136 4 роки тому

    id use guach seems more afordable but the set is missing lot of browns would have to buy aditional tubes

    • @katya_fhs
      @katya_fhs 4 роки тому

      Browns are easy to mix. You just have to keep in mind that when working with gouache, you need to mix more than you think you need, because it's almost impossible to mix the same color twice with gouache. Just make sure you have enough to finish your project, and you should be fine.

  • @bluestblue435
    @bluestblue435 3 роки тому

    26$ for that W&N set? Wow I don't know if I'm just blessed by the art gods but my local art shop sells each tube for 1,50€ So far the cheapest brand name paints I got.
    I really like the versatility of gouache, it's like the love child of watercolours and acrylics😂

  • @creationslandscapedesigns
    @creationslandscapedesigns 4 роки тому

    Curiously what paper were you using to paint on?

  • @joshhatfield1320
    @joshhatfield1320 4 роки тому +1

    Gouache can be very frustrating. I'd like to see you do an outdoor sketch in gouache to see how you approach it

    • @recoveringsoul755
      @recoveringsoul755 4 роки тому

      outdoors now? It might be considered non essential travel, even though it is for his work

    • @joshhatfield1320
      @joshhatfield1320 4 роки тому

      @@recoveringsoul755 after the outbreak!

  • @gildejesus3714
    @gildejesus3714 4 роки тому

    A really weird thing about mixing white guoache en watercolor is the false shade of whitey is gives.
    Maybe the brand i got...
    WN looks better in your experiment...

  • @pickinduck
    @pickinduck 4 роки тому +2

    From what I have seen (but have not tested yet) one of the screwy things about gouache is the two different whites ie titanium and zinc. Supposedly zinc is better for mixing and titanium is better for highlights but (and this is a BIG BUT (LOL)) the tube of it that most sets comes with is the titanium. This might be a good subject for you to do a video on (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).

    • @IcyFlakas
      @IcyFlakas 4 роки тому +1

      Strangely enough, the winsor and Newton set teo has (and that I got) comes with Zinc. I had to buy my titanium white separately

    • @pickinduck
      @pickinduck 4 роки тому

      @@IcyFlakas His M.Graham set has titanium. Both of the sets that I bought had titanium. I do have a tube of zinc from Winsor & Newton but I bought it separately.

  • @jonmahashintina
    @jonmahashintina 4 роки тому

    gouache is pretty popular lately.

  • @Lomamega
    @Lomamega 4 роки тому

    what paper u use?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  4 роки тому +1

      Fluid watercolour paper

  • @graybryan9521
    @graybryan9521 4 роки тому

    Try to not use gouache exactly as you would watercolor. Use it more like acrylic. Basically, just use less water. I use white but I don't use black either.

  • @al_batross3333
    @al_batross3333 4 роки тому +2

    I was hoping you would first explain what gouache is.

  • @RadishTheFool
    @RadishTheFool 4 роки тому

    Mary Sanche has a wonderful series on gouache. Her video on paint consistency is so so helpful:
    ua-cam.com/video/iMz3adIVjJM/v-deo.html

  • @Yorky222
    @Yorky222 4 роки тому

    Water content is important if you want opacity.

  • @rephaelreyes8552
    @rephaelreyes8552 4 роки тому

    Oh yeah now Teoh will start using gauche with his watercolor

  • @Dragos-be3hi
    @Dragos-be3hi 4 роки тому +1

    With gouache you need to work like with acrilyc

  • @jeanneprice312
    @jeanneprice312 4 роки тому

    James Gurney here on UA-cam uses a lot of gouache.

  • @Emiswitchcraft
    @Emiswitchcraft 4 роки тому +1

    Hey! Maybe yu should use a bit less water to your gouache. I use it since school and you can play actually between many water as watercolor to creamy texture to have a strong color over others. I use others brushes for gouache because watercolors ones hold too much water (especially animal ones), generally synthetic brushes and very not expensives ones. I hope you'll go on with gouache, it's different and addictive as watercolor. Take car of you and your family :-)

  • @muskndusk
    @muskndusk 3 роки тому

    To anyone watching this: read the comments for some great tips.

  • @MrJairo3259
    @MrJairo3259 4 роки тому

    I guess gouache dont have the same magic of watercolor.

    • @jenna2431
      @jenna2431 4 роки тому

      it does if you know how to use it.

  • @Lisapizza789
    @Lisapizza789 4 роки тому

    The best gouache is Schmincke. Just saying.

  • @Bhodisatvas
    @Bhodisatvas 4 роки тому

    As far as I understand it watercolour and gouache are interchangeable, the only difference is the white paint

    • @jonmahashintina
      @jonmahashintina 4 роки тому

      gouache uses pigments that are not quite as finely grounded. thats what gives them opacity, and causes them to behave differently with washes. theyll seem heavier and wont do the same spreading affect that watercolour has.

  • @palomaharcha6961
    @palomaharcha6961 4 роки тому

    Maybe next time you could try not to use water