Adding four IDE Channels and a CD-ROM to my Amiga 4000
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2023
- This week on 10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast I am installing an adapter that gives you four IDE channels on the #Amiga 4000 and adding a CD-ROM Drive. Join me as I cover the hardware and software required to get it working.
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Doug. A-TAP-E. Also LIBS is LIBS. Not Libes. :)
(Knows Doug will punch me repeatedly)
Great video and full of great info. I didn’t even know this was a thing. Thank you!!
ya...you probably call AGA AhhGhaa
@@10MARC lol
I have a CD drive for my A1200 using the Squirrel SCSI interface. I used it for Aminet CDs, and games like Myst, Genetic Species, and other games mid 90s onwards.
The last few seconds of your video were funny, with the pop-up appearing 🙂
Yes, that was the demo version of atapi.device! I forgot it had the pop up. I do have a licensed version too
Awesome Video, The Amiga 4000 is my dream amiga system. I have an Amiga 1200 which is inside an EZ Z4 Case with a Mediator LT4.
That's a really nice setup, actually. I do love my A4000, though.
The A1200 is a wonderful machine. You can still do a lot with the A1200 and its AGA chipset. The big-box Amigas just make expansion a bit easier and give a few more options.
I had to look this up as I couldn't believe it -- but the power "switch" is just an actuator/rod for the real switch on the power supply! I don't think I've ever seen something like that in a computer before, but I suppose that the engineering cost was cheaper than wiring a proper switch to the power supply.
Yep. Just a long plunger. I can probably jury rig something to my new power supply where they live up properly.
This is a great workaround if you don't have a dedicated SCSI board. Quite some time ago, I bought the GVP HC+8 SCSI board for my A4000D which has a HDD and a CD-ROM. I literally plugged it in, installed the GVP disk, and it worked like a treat. I think I got a bit spoilt with that!
I normally used my Warp Engine with it's super fast SCSI in here, but it became quite unreliable. Once I get that working again I may go back to it.
I remember using MakeCD on my old A4000 with OS 3.9 for burning CD's. As far as i recall, it was quite easy :)
Oh! MakeCD. I will look that up and see if I can find a copy
There is also FryingPan.
My CD-ROM solution for my Amiga 500 back in the day was a ParNET cable connected to a CDTV. That worked great for reading the Almathera and Aminet sets as if the CD's were mounted directly on the 500, especially for grabbing fonts, icons and clip art collections.
Good plan! I did that for a bit with my A3000 and A500/A570 CD-ROM but it was too bulky. I ended up just getting a nice external SCSI CD-ROM back in 93 or 94
Thanks Doug love your work. Cheers
I appreciate the kind words!
Nice vid Doug 👍🏻 But you should also mention the filesystem you are using for the CD0 mount? The mount file will be pointing at L: 😉 The IDEFIX’97 program will also need a Serial number etc or you will get a nag screen. 🙏🏻
This one is more or less for AmigaOS 3.1.4 and above which includes a CD Filesystem - but yes I should have mentioned the file systems available for older Amiga's.
I did this too a few months ago on my A4000 so I didn't need to rely on my SCSI card, as my SCSI CD-ROM was dying and those drives are not all that easy to find nowadays. Whereas IDE CD/DVD ROM drives can be had at my local thrift store for less than 10 dollars 😄Works like a charm. I also did that same ATAPI file copy from IDEFIX97 (did you stumble about through the files to work that out like I did? 😁You were probably wiser and knew it already, but I did not!)
Nice! I have a licensed copy of IDE Fix somewhere... I just cannot recall where.
Many thanx! Very helpful. AtapiMagic didnt work for me on 3.2 this trick did it
So glad that it helped!
Super video, this I will try, i have problems getting the splitter to work on my Amiga 4000T.
For the missing front plade on your A4000, pehaps you would be intrested in making a cf and gotex front.
I have designed a combined Gotek CF-ide fron pannel thats fits in a 3,5 inch bay.
The 3d model and assembly description is avalibal at "printables"
That's a quite good idea. I will have to see if I have a spare GoTek
Honestly CD-ROm's on Amiga can be a PITA and this was not always the case because back in the day the first CD-ROM I ever installed was in my A2000 HD with an Expansion Systems HD Controller but they had the software ready to go. Move forward to recent years, The best solution I found was an interface that came with Alegro CDFS and EIDE'99. It's been a while and I am an old fart so I tend to forget things but I know where that install disk is and I have an extra board somewhere too. I have Amiga Kit boards and they work for one drive but I never could get multiple drives to work but that's probably due to something I have done wrong because Amiga Kit stuff tends to work well so I am not blaming anything on them. Now what I used CD's for is to move files from the PC to the Amiga. Hell yea burn a disk and everything is there. However I have been networking all my Amiga's so I can access files from one of my servers which is one thing I wanted to do back when I started backing up my collection. I do have a couple Amgia Specific CD's, OS3.2, RoadShow and yea Fred Fish too. Hey if you don't have anything Fred Fish you may not be a legit Amiga Old School User but I have two. Not sure where I got the first one but the second one came from a purchase of a 2091 and optical drive on eBay a few years back when I was buying Anything Amiga yea lets not go there but I think Chris Edwards has me beat in that department and then maybe no, no, no I think he has me beat in that department. All I know is when something Amiga does not go well it requires a lot of reading. Bring up the Information on an ICON will save your behind when it comes to specific device requirements. Reading is fundimental and Google can be your friend. I love my Amigas and no matter how they may frustrate me at time I just look at it as something to do and keeping me out of trouble. PC's are a dime a dozen if they die you just replace them but Amiga's no no no you fix them and bring then back to life although you will have a good cry along the way but sometimes we need to shed a tear or two. Ok ok Ramble over with.....
I certainly don't really need a CD-ROM in my Amiga, but I may as well put it in there! I was given a ton of Aminet CD's at last year's AmiWest, and it will be fun to browse thru those
Thank you Doug I have persisted for weeks trying to get my CD Rom visible on the my A4000 workbench screen. Cheers
Glad to help!
BTW, I have wondered what happened when Commodore painted the A4000 top case that gray-ish color. My 4000 top cover happens to match the front bezel so it seems they had two colors. Maybe they fixed the mismatch at soem point in production.
It's never really bothered me. My Amiga 2000 cases and bezels are different colors so I assumed the "Two Tone" look was intentional
That smaller hole looks like it could fit Gotek...
I think I could squeeze one in there. I think I have a spare
Thats what I did. Nice fit
I bought ASIM CDFS back in 1996 with my CD drive. Still use it today for reading and burning. I have an external case with both CD ROM (CD0) and CD Burner (CD1). There is some weirdness I need tosort out after having my stuff in storage for 20 years, like why CD0/1 want to still mount when I pull them out of DEVs (my workaround for now was to rename the device icons to "CD0_DONOTUSE"
There must be an old school "Mountlist" file that tries to initialize the CD-ROM. That's more of a Workbench 1.3 thing, but they still work fine in 3.x
@@10MARC I don't always turn on the external scsi enclosure with the CD drives in it so when I power up I get the dialog boxes, can't mount CD0 and hit ok, then can't mount CD1, hit ok. So that's why I renamed the icons as a stop gap for now. I have searched through the startup-sequence and user-startup and haven't zeroed-in where the mount happends, but like you said it is in there somewhere. Seems to be after right after workbench appears but before DOPus. Since my larger goal is to get 3.2.2, I will start over with a clean slate and document every change to the system because it is easy to lose track of what installer added which files and made this/that change to the startup sequence, haha
ASIMCDFS comes with a nice suite of tools including a cd audio player called Asim Tunes, CD32 and CDTV disc support, photoCD, and possibly other items.
Master ISO was the program Asim shipped in the suite for authoring discs including audio cds, CD-R/RW, duplication (worked even better with two CD drives like my setup), make autobooting, DAO. Really a nice full-featured commercial package for CDROM/WRITE needs
This is great tutorial, thank you! however I've beaten my head over this for a while, this and all other fixes have failed for me. I tried multiple CD drives as well as replacing cables. I tried the AtapiMagic and that too failed. You ever see a grown man cry over a cd rom?
Hit me up via Email or over one of the Social Media platforms I lurk on. We will get your CD-ROM all sorted out
Will it boot from the CD? as in the oS 3.2 install disk? Right now I used the naive Blue Ray drive onmy PC in winuae I'll be doing a video on installing 3.2 directly from the optical drive.
Hmmm... Excellent question. The atapi.device is not in ROM, so I suspect in this case it will not. A SCSI CD-ROM probably would, though.