Amiga iBrowse 3.0a Review and Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 16 бер 2024
- This week on 10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast I am showing you the new iBrowse 3.0a for the Commodore Amiga Computer. I cover how to download, install and a little bit of the use of this nice software. Best of all, it is currently 30% off!
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Good to see you back! There is nothing silly about using an Amiga, even on the internet ;)
Great to see you back Doug! Didn’t know about that Screen preferences on Ibrowse 🤯 Would be nice to see a Ibrowse with CSS capabilities. Now we get faster Accelerators such as PiStorm and Vampire there really is no excuse. I use my Amigas more than a PC nowadays. Cheers 🍻
That would be cool to have full compatibility with modern websites. PiStorm could likely handle it
For A3000/A4000, there's Z3660 with its ARM based 68K + RTG accelerator.
@@semicuriosity257 Yes I have seen the video Wrangler Amiga put out about it. Not as fast as a PiStorm though 😉
I don't believe that Amiga OS on any 68k or PowerPC architecture has the power to handle modern CSS.
@@cullmaster7361 Based on SysSpeed MIPS benchmark, Z3660's ARM'-68K emulation is 42% of PiStorm with RPi 4B and Emu68.
Well this just made my night! :) Thanks for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You'd save a heckuva lot of precious vertical space if you switched your navigation toolbar to icons only. I updated to iBrowse 2.5 way back in 2022, I think after watching your video on it. Good to know I'll be able to grab this one at no additional cost.
Good idea.
crazy that Amiga has better browsing option than Mac OS 9 computers
Crazy, but true! It works better than my OS X Snow Leopard install
IBrowse is amazing but there are better options. Use Classilla on Mac OS 9. For PPC Macs running earlier OSX use InterWeb PPC. Both are better than IBrowse, not that this takes anything away from the effort put into IBrowse and AmiSSL.
This should be $10-$15 software. HTML 4 only. To browse the internet on an Amiga is a curiosity nowadays especially since ibrowse won’t work with modern websites.
I get it... But I do think $29.95 is fair. A lot of work goes into it, and the AmiSSL seems fairly unique to the Amiga community.
I really feel there's a better existing browser
Isn’t is Shareware though so you can actually use for free?
Not sure, you shouldn't forget that the amount of people actually buying this are very few. So to compensate for the time, you probably do need a bit of a steep price. We're so used to free software these days, that we always seem to forget how much time actually costs.
@@kreuner11 what browser would that be on the Amiga that's Superior? None of the others have been updated in years
I wish all the best for the devs and those that purchased. This costs too much though. Consider its costs versus OS4, AmigaForever and the free iBrowser versus the paid version of iBrowse...... what do you actually get? Personally I think AmiFox is better way to go and i'd love to see more love for it. It will only get better, it supports modern features and you can set up your own Amifox server.
Yes, AmiFox is neat, but not quite real time. I do like to support devs, but they need to drop the price to a reasonable level
Using, maintaining or even buying an Amiga ain't cheap these days. I think it's money well spent. Otherwise I would've given up on Amiga already and be surfing on the Pi that I took from the PiStorm.
What was I doing on the web on my Amiga? Well, I was working on a way to access Twitter and have it look relatively normal with iBrowse until Space Karen took over and screwed up the API (one of the many reasons why I stopped using Twitter altogether). The free API version only allows you to post tweets now, and I wanted to use the API since that was a way to avoid getting ads. :(
Yes, I used to use the Amiga client of Twitter and it worked OK. I don't think it works at all now. Free speech for everyone! Except let's charge for it now!
Great coverage!
I still have the original disks for installing 1.12a. Tried to upgrade on the web site the other day, but it asked for the key file, which the installation doesn't produce.
Must be the a part of the 1.12a version?
Maybe. There is an option on the order or download screen to recover a lost key file. If that does not work, email them and I am sure they can help out
Thanx for this vid. iBrowse is pretty decent for the hardware as it is. I mean, my 68030 A1200 just isn't going to run modern sites, but this is impressive...
For the longest time tho, I kept saying it was just too expensive for hobbyists. So when it finally went on sale, I decided to support the devs.
That's wonderful! I hope the Devs see this post and realize that what I have been telling them all along is probably true. Cut the price in half, and they will probably quadruple their sales, which makes them more money, gives them a larger user base and spreads good will.
Bravo doug a very nice distribution.
Thank you very much!
Nice setup 🥰 ❤️
Thank you!
@@10MARC You're welcome Douglas 🥰❤️🙏 Great to see you back on screen again. 🥰 I have IBrowse 3 PPC version on my AmigaOne X5000. Unregistered but very useful 😏👍
Great video, I will give it a hand buying a license for these heroes!! I just don`t have a modem compatible with my Amiga here so I will just use it with my amiberry (emulator)
Lots of neat options for networking like Plipbox, Gurunet and the WIFi box I reviewed a few months back. Super easy via PCMCIA on an A600 or A1200 too. And fast!
"Noticeably and appreciably faster," you say. Let's see it on a stock A1200. We, the Great Unwashed, ain't all got the jack to be an 060 RTG fancypants.
PiStorm. Done. Cheap as Chips compared to other solutions that offer merely 1/8 of it's power.
Well... "faster", not "fast..." A snail who drinks a Red Bull is "faster" than a non-caffinated snail, but still pretty slow...
I have a similar system as yours (A4000, Picasso 2 and x-surf. The install instructions are pretty confusing and it would be great to see a step through video of how you set it up for beginners.
I do have separate videos on setting up RTG cards and Roadshow with the networking card.
You really do need networking on an Amiga as almost all software/drivers/firmware/updates is delivered through the internet. Long gone are the days of physical media-even for Amigas. Yes I know some products include a floppy disk(s), but that is less and less common IMO. I bought IBrowse a couple years ago and was surprised to receive a free upgrade. I was prepared to pay. They know many think it is too expensive, but its their software and their choice for what to charge.
Valid points. We can either pay it or not! Moving data is easy on the A600 and A1200 with the PCMCIA CF card adapters, but certainly not as easy on the other machines! I have a mapped network drive on all my Amiga's to make it easy to move stuff
work bench es beutiful!!!!. geos de c64 tambien . berkley estudios se mandaron pedazo de trabajo. por cierto soy fana de lo retro. y soy un gran defensor del reciclaje de hardware
niceeeeee!!!!
You and Taylor get a quick mention in the video too - when I get on Facebook.
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I have had exactly the same experience with web browsing as you Doug, with the Amiga outperforming the otherwise lovely Power Mac G4 running OS 9, simply because of certificates. Such a shame (for the Mac), but also cool the Amiga still has an advantage here. In fact, there are even some Mac-related sites I use on the Amiga because it's so much easier on there :D
I did look for an alternative to install the certificates on my old Mac but came up empty. As it is, my Amiga browses the Internet and access my network shares better than my Mac with an OS from 2009
They should open source and let the community port it to macOS 9
@@10MARCdepends on what format it uses, if it's standard CURL style format it should be copy paste
A1200 here with TF1230 and latest IBrowse using a blipbox. I don't get the choppyness you seem to be getting on the AGA, mines super smooth.
When I was in AGA mode I was using 1024x768 on 256 colors! It works fine at 640x400
Is the license for one amiga only or can it be used on more than one amiga you own ?
I use it on all mine without any issues
With the freely available NetSurf 68k having CSS and HTML 4.01, what advantage does IBrowse 3.0 have for the extra price?
Well... To put it bluntly... Netsurf simply does not work. I have tried it multiple times over the past six years and if I can get it to bring up one or two webpages before it stops functioning I consider myself lucky.
Even when it sort of works, you need a 68060, Vampire or PiStorm to make it doing anything. I love the idea of it, but I have met nobody who actually can use it.
Do you use it and are you successful?
@@10MARC I actually don't use any browsers on WinUAE, but was curious why Netsurf, with all of its features, wasn't the undisputed king of browsers on 68k. Now I know. IBrowse for the win!
en argentina no era facil acceder a estas maquinas.pero el que la tenia... era llegar conectar y trabajar ... sin ese ruido de speaker horrible. por ahy el disco duro... pero casi siempre era disket
que en este momento de la vida esten diseñando soft para un procesador de 16 bit me llena de saombro, emocion y alegria. yo elijo practicidad por sobre todas las cosas.
Ibrowse would download but I had to go to the PC sside to download amissl
Make sure your date and time are set on the Amiga. I meant to mention that. You will get SSL errors if it is wrong
It was set correctly... the error I kept getting on the ssl link was "your Ami SSL was too old" The solution was to download amissl from the PC side and move it manually ove r to the Amiga and install it.
ojala todo el mundo argentina no viera lo que nosostros vemos. creci rodeado de todo esto . nunca tuve una amiga pero hubo gnte llegadaa mi que era muy facil acceder a estas maquinas si. y la practicidad... y elprecio....
por sierto soy de argentina. y creci jugando con la commodore 128. en modo c64. tenemos que volver a la magia de la letras....
It's a minor point but your auto focus appears to be tracking on the background and not your face, and has been in the last few videos you've done. There are many potential solutions to this.
Really? I wonder why I have not noticed that?
si hay algo que me da bronca es que necesiten un procesador de 8 nucleos para ver 1 foto. Estoy siendo sarcastico... por las dudas. pero ustedes me entienden... no es necesario ver todo en full hd para ser feliz...
Why would anyone want to browse like they did the 1990s? Jesus.
Why do we want to do anything on these old machines? I still get a kick out of logging into BBS's on my Commodore 64!
It is an acquired taste
For this price literally EVERYTHING should work just fine: Twitter, Facebook, Gmail and UA-cam, most popular websites these days !
That's a valid point. Paying $60 for something that works on 30% of websites puts things in perspective. Hopefully the devs will see this and take it to heart.
@@10MARCA browser that works on everything would be worth upwards of 100$ in my opinion. Whether it's business smart or not, I don't know. But that would be a very valuable product with no parallel. Time to start charging $ in % of sites it can access without problem!