Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 31, Op. 110 (1821) {Original 1835 Fortepiano)

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  • @Sshooter444
    @Sshooter444 2 роки тому +69

    The manuscript is so minimalist, clearly Beethoven had no time for pretentions. I imagine this score lying in a pile of papers, half eaten food, spilled drinks and chaos. Yet, the music is at the peak of order and artistry.

    • @jonasbaes3914
      @jonasbaes3914 2 роки тому +3

      fantastic paradox..or irony....thank you for your comment!

    • @yalz302
      @yalz302 Рік тому +1

      yeah thanks... really good comment.

    • @TheGloryofMusic
      @TheGloryofMusic 4 місяці тому

      Beethoven's publishing house needed to maintain an expert who was able to read Beethoven's hand.

  • @Siamese-2608
    @Siamese-2608 17 днів тому +1

    that fugue at the end is so sublime Beethoven was really capable of making intresting fugues

  • @choo1030
    @choo1030 8 місяців тому +4

    I don't know what is more impressive : The man who composed such a beautiful piece, or the people who could read the notation well enough to put into the readable score

  • @padoubleu
    @padoubleu 3 місяці тому +2

    Most refined and expressive playing of Penelope Crawford on the 1835 Conrad Graf, together with the composer's manuscript it is a true journey in time, thank you for sharing.

  • @kofiLjunggren
    @kofiLjunggren 2 роки тому +30

    The score is really fascinating!!

  • @hymnodyhands
    @hymnodyhands 11 місяців тому +3

    So beautiful ... a revelation on fortepiano, though, and it is wonderful to see Beethoven's handwriting flowing by as well... how he thought of each portion!

  • @robintranter6462
    @robintranter6462 2 роки тому +5

    Remember everything was written in ink, no pencil and rubber. last minute alterations meant scratching out and rewriting. I dare say the ink has faded over the years but it's so instructive to see the composers original manuscript before editors got hold of it.

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 2 роки тому +4

    Wunderschöne und detaillierte Interpretation dieser kompakten doch perfekt komponierten Klaviersonate im nuancierten Tempo mit klarem doch warmherzigem Klang des historischen Fortepianos und mit sorgfältig kontrollierter Dynamik. Der dritte Satz klingt echt schön und auch mysteriös. Alles ist faszinierend!

    • @ProdigyImprovisation
      @ProdigyImprovisation 2 роки тому +2

      Because it represents the hardship he was going through in life, left alone all by himself & not being able to hear anything. The only thing left is his music here, as he did such a great job telling the world what it feels like. All suspended from reality like being thrown & left inside the biggest hole yet to climb out of all time. The only way out is to point his inner connection to God. His music is pointing in the direction of the above. This is where his deepest connection with God becomes formed & he has the utter realization that he is the creation of God. & meant to go through life in such ways, simply because he has something to prove to the world! “That he is the best!”

  • @Dylonely_9274
    @Dylonely_9274 3 місяці тому +2

    Nice, thank you.

  • @peteacher52
    @peteacher52 2 роки тому +6

    Respect for the people whose job it was to translate that disheveled scribble into readable manuscript!

  • @maxshell4800
    @maxshell4800 2 роки тому +3

    Thanx so much for this wounderful facsimile piece

  • @estebantapia1225
    @estebantapia1225 2 роки тому +1

    Oh yes, my favorite one! Thank you!

  • @josephzaarour6649
    @josephzaarour6649 2 роки тому +4

    Fun fact, there may be Bebung in the third movement, a technique meant for clavichord

    • @chris93703
      @chris93703 2 роки тому +2

      I have never heard of that term before. Where does this occur in the movement?

    • @bradipoalvideo3
      @bradipoalvideo3 Рік тому

      @@chris93703 i guees it's the repeated A at 9:52

  • @justamusician7846
    @justamusician7846 Рік тому +3

    Everything sounds better on period instruments, periodt

  • @Tamadehenzhan
    @Tamadehenzhan 2 роки тому +2

    Sehr schöne Sendung

  • @kellywalker3880
    @kellywalker3880 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for posting this. Where did you get the manuscript? Is it available online?

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 Рік тому +1

    Interesting, does the performer play a C7 / dimminished chord at 1:45? I don't think it's notated but it fits pretty well

    • @is_a_togekiss
      @is_a_togekiss Рік тому +2

      I've listened to it several times and I don't hear anything that departs from the score! The tuning of the fortepiano used here does differ from what we are used to nowadays so chords do have slightly different qualities to them - it's something I'm still figuring out as I listen to these.

  • @ericb7937
    @ericb7937 Рік тому

    Someone has to try mov 3 on cello + violin. There is something there for strings would be amazing

  • @antoniodesagodinho6629
    @antoniodesagodinho6629 2 роки тому +1

    I can only hope for op. 111 to come next!

    • @TheOneAndOnlyZeno
      @TheOneAndOnlyZeno 2 роки тому +1

      I already did the score-video with the manuscript approx. a year ago, but I suppose he could do it anyway, with a different recording. I choose Pogorelich - one of the most sublime and extraordinary performances of Beethoven's final Piano sonata ever recorded.

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  2 роки тому +6

      It will be a nice comparison. Modern versus historically correct. Best of both worlds.

    • @TheOneAndOnlyZeno
      @TheOneAndOnlyZeno 2 роки тому +2

      @@bartjebartmans I look forward to analysing and comparing :)

  • @mckernan603
    @mckernan603 2 роки тому

    What’s the little word he writes to repeat the figure?

    • @lucho2868
      @lucho2868 2 роки тому

      This is the modern version of the more useful abbreviations en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbreviation_(music)

    • @lucho2868
      @lucho2868 2 роки тому

      (i had a wikipedia link posted, sorry if it's not visible. the article is called abbreviations in music)

  • @TheGloryofMusic
    @TheGloryofMusic 4 місяці тому

    The tempo relations are incorrect. The fugue should maintain the same pulse as the arioso, and not speed up.

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  4 місяці тому +1

      Why? It is up to the performer. There are no set rules for tempi.

  • @Baton793
    @Baton793 2 роки тому +10

    Lord Almighty, that handwriting is atrocious

    • @chris93703
      @chris93703 2 роки тому

      Almost as bad as a doctor's.

  • @Kiszts
    @Kiszts 2 роки тому +3

    Beethoven hardwrite is hard to read

  • @pedroruiz193
    @pedroruiz193 Рік тому +1

    Jesus Christ, I understand is a handwritten score, but you have to almost decipher it. I seriously doubt that anyone except him could fully read the handwritten score.

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  Рік тому +1

      The fact that I made this video is proof that Beethoven's handwriting is pretty easy to read. I have not run into a score I couldn't read. Copyists like Ferdinand Ries prepared the manuscript scores for publishing, they could read any scribble Beethoven came up with.