Last year I took my teenage son to the town where Jay was partying. It's like the wild west. Totally lawless. I was raised in Newcastle Upon Tyne and i know how to party but playa de las Americas is like being in ‘Grand Theft Auto’. Lord knows what he has been involved in.
Paul I’m from Newcastle aswell worked as a dj in many of our underground rave scene dj in kiss affinity ikon hanger 13 the boat all over. I went to Tenerife few years ago and we where getting pills of youngsters selling them just like how Lucy and her mates look one of the lads even had a hat on saying MR DUST wey a bet you can tell what we where buying of him. All the people we bought stuff of where English kids somethings going on with Lucy and her whole crew if you see her instagram she’s having 13 holiday in the past six months to festivals and rave events all over Europe if that doesn’t tell you what she’s up to I don’t know what does
@@WarrickHunt It's crystal clear to those of us in or familiar with the scene. I think most people can pick up substances were involved but not to what extent. Ending up with randoms at festivals is part of the experience, even if you're not supplying, something very specific to raves/festivals. Your average person going out to a club sticks to their crew. At festivals everyone is looked at as family-ish.
@@someoneusa this Lucy is deffo more then just a flyer girl or trying to get you in to the bar this is what she apperently was doing for four months in Tenerife in 2023 the life style she has is deffo not from wages from doing that job Every person trying to get us in there bars asking us if we wanted pills or cocaine all young English lads and lasses lads thinking there gangsters and lasses up there own arses who love themselves it was laughable. As some of us where connected with local dealers in Newcastle and seing these youngsters just being open and asking anyone one was mental
17 times! I darent even hazard a guess where someone so young can raise enough money for that, plus accommodation and keep, without my eyebrows going up!! Where I work hard and can’t afford a holiday full stop….how (unless illegal means) can this be done?, very concerning, as it doesn’t sit right at all.
@@sambobrooklyn316 took it down! This clowns getting found out no doubt... Complete amateur.....shes got the arrogance and confidence to spin lies just not the intelligence
hopfully you read this comment, there is a new (strange late info) interview with a friend of Jay Slater who after 12 days suddenly tells in a interview that he recieved snapshots from Jay after he was missing the first night..hopefully you want to analyze that interview Thank you
Notice that the location screenshot from jay to Lucy is not showing up as him in the contact circle showboat on the map Obviously this was not a live location but it is not showing the time and date or network and battery life which would be there on a screenshot if you took a screenshot of your location Try it out yourself Why would he have time to crop it all out on 1% She also tells ( me anyway) that she knows where ( or is unknowingly revealing that she knew the people who he went with) to pick him up from and told him to go back there even though she asked for his location and it shows he’s in the middle of a field almost). She is up to her neck in this and she is trying to save her own life potentially
it truly makes me believe the police investigating are corrupt, as lucy’s phone exposed alot of her inconstancies. they can access the sound information of her call with jay and see what was said, they can see that she called him and not her calling him, they can see her location for months previously and see when she left the rave and where she went, see that her evidence provided for jays location is missing the battery percentage at the top and doesn’t even look like his phone took the screenshot. even see her involvement with dealing drugs. like???
Thank you, v interesting, I believe drugs are involved. Why would a 19yr old boy go off with 2 men in their 40s....money & drugs, my opinion. Sad ending, I'm sure the mother has a gut feeling.
I like to look at the statement from the position of the pronouns. I have come on holiday I was tired from the weekend. I left alone earlier than everyone else because I was tired from the weekend. I woke up to a phone call. He was lost in the mountains. He wasn’t aware of his surroundings. He desperately needed a drink. His phone was on 1%. He had met two people on Sunday night and left with them to go to their apartment. Their apartment was miles from civilization and in a secluded spot… He left at 8am. His last location was… He has no water. He has no coat/suitable clothing. I was looking in the middle of the night. We are all so worried. We just want him home. To me it looks like it’s all about her in the beginning; she distances herself completely from Jay. She looked for him all night, she’s the hero, she did everything right and he’s done everything wrong. It seems like she judges and blames him for the bind and she sees it that he’s gotten himself into this bind-being missing-she points out how he himself went wrong at every turn and then she becomes a sympathetic group of “we …”. We ‘just’ want him home. Very, very manipulative girl here. Peter, if you or one of your people reads this: do I see a shift in referential index here? My grasp of that concept isn’t the best, but it seems to me she stays mostly in the past and then speaks in present tense. Am I right?
She even has the media writing "missing teen Jays friend Lucy is doing everything she can to help find him". To me she seems like a narcissist. Also she spsdly been to Tenerife 17 times this year and that she had her social media wiped of all prior trips
@@mmcmiddlechild Did she use his name even once? I don’t remember and I may not have written it down because I only wrote down the sentences with pronouns. And I am from the school of thought that when someone doesn’t use the other person’s name, there’s a reason.
I don’t believe Lucy is guilty of being involved in causing physical harm to Jay but her language appeared to me to be showing that her first priority was self preservation rather than concern for her friends immediate welfare. Did she say to Jay “Stay there, I’m coming to get you?” Then what changed her mind? She did not go & get him, she phoned the police. A thought she had resulted in her not going to find her friend who was distressed. Personally, I would have driven up there & if I couldn’t find him then I would call the police. She then set up a Go Fund me so was her priority creating a story & money? I don’t know. Annie
Exactly. It’s common knowledge on the streets of Tenerife that she’s a big time drug peddler so I’d say she has a vested interest in finding him before contacting police, if what she says is true…it’s not been verified that she spoke to him and she’s left things out so I’m starting to believe the story of him selling drugs and losing the bag , which has ended up in him being set up by her and dealers and her making up a load of crap to cover it all, while collecting the missed money.
She’s been saying about the Spanish police “they don’t even speak English “ so how can she claim that she called 911 and reported him missing in the morning after she spoke to him (allegedly) and she said that they told her that they were going to send a helicopter up but she said she spoke to local people where he last was and they didn’t hear any helicopters so she speaks fluent Spanish Then they kept putting the phone down on her so she got a taxi to the police station! She can’t keep her story straight
She’s been saying about the Spanish police “they don’t even speak English “ so how can she claim that she called 911 and reported him missing in the morning after she spoke to him (allegedly) and she said that they told her that they were going to send a helicopter up but she said she spoke to local people where he last was and they didn’t hear any helicopters so she speaks fluent Spanish Then they kept putting the phone down on her so she got a taxi to the police station! She can’t keep her story straight
@@jesclifford88i think it might’ve not quite gone down like that but she obviously has some setup going on in Tenerife and she enrolled jay he looked out of his head on the videos of that night yeah I think he’s lost something and she’s not gonna give the money over to cover the loss And she ain’t gonna trust jay to earn it back so he collateral damage and she’s done the go fund me to cover the losses At say £20 a thing that’s 600 to make a 30k debt no? Sounds like she’s saving her own skin but she’s outing herself
I think the answer to this is with the two men Jay stayed with the night of the rave. If he had had enough of the rave he could have simply gone back to his digs to crash and straighten up, and there was no mention of an after party having been proposed. He went there, with those guys for a reason and though it all seemed like a good idea at the time I think that by morning he knew that he needed to leave. I’m guessing no one offered to run him to his accommodation so he decided to take the bus/walk. Nor did anyone offer to phone him a taxi. Either way he headed off, and fast if the lady who saw him leaving is to believed. This suggests to me he wanted out of there, away from those two guys and to put distance between himself and them. Maybe something unpleasant happened in the hours between 0300 and 0730, who knows? Maybe he stole something and wanted out of there asap, maybe drugs were bought or sold, maybe something sexual happened, but for one reason or another Jay obviously felt he couldn’t rely on these two or go back to the house once the bus had left and needed to get moving. This may be why he didn’t stick to the main road. Maybe he thought that at some point these guys would come looking for him, again, it’s just a thought. We have all been young, and no one makes the wisest choices when they’re loaded up on booze and pills, but I think the gaining distance from these guys is significant. I believe these men may have come looking for Jay later in the day and found him. They might be the people photographed or seen near the church and if so I think they took him and that from that point on Jay was in trouble. They had a hire car by all accounts and Jay could well be anywhere. Don’t @ me with ‘amateur detective stuff’ I’m just a mum, with her head full of ‘what would it be like to have a son go missing’ ideas, and a recollection of what it is to be young.
Well, I’m hearing I don’t know if it’s the truth, but I’m just saying what I’m hearing, that the two men had this Rolex in the car so I’m wondering if Jay has tried to make a quick getaway with the watch thinking that these guys were asleep or something and they’ve caught up with him, who knows
My theory is a lot less like a movie script than yours. he went with the 2 men to buy drugs at their apartment, then he got lost in the wilderness trying to get back.
As it's nine days later after your comment, it looks like you were exactly on point. I do tire of people on social media downplaying what civilian "armchair detectives" can add to the solution.
I believe Lucy and Brad left Jay alone. I don’t know if you have watched the videos of Jay at the festival and saw how wasted he was. I believe the 2 men were strangers who helped Jay when they discovered he was on his own and possibly in a mess. I find it very suspicious how Brad is not mentioned even tho he was supposedly still with Jay when Lucy left ‘alone’. There’s some voice notes from Brads Mum I would love to see your view on those especially because Lucy claimed to be the last person to speak to Jay on the phone but then Rachel, Brads Mum, claims he was the last to speak to him.
What if Jay overdosed and the ''friends'' got scared of being accused of his death because they supplied the drgs and therefore got rid of him. Like Joran van der sloot probably did with Nathalie Holloway on Aruba.
I’m suspicious of those two guys he went with and whether he was drugged and was confused. I mean plenty of men have been drugged with GHB by a stranger unknowingly and either killed or s*xually assaulted. I think Jay must have been under the influence of some kind of drug to have said he’d missed the bus, when in fact it hadn’t left yet, and then deciding to walk back to his hotel. No phone battery, no water and then walking the wrong way. Why on earth he went anywhere with two guys he’d only just met and leaving his friends behind is beyond me. I find it even more strange that from what I gather one was aged 40 and not anywhere near Jays age or his group of friends - just why would he have even considered going with them unless he was under the influence of something as he’d already fallen on the dance floor with a video that was released today. I’m putting my money on those guys having something to do with this and they’d get away with it by letting Jay wander off in the wooded landscape. They definitely need to be questioned further. They say their flight was pre booked and not booked just because Jay vanished but predators plan in advance and could have only been there knowing about the festival and preying on vulnerable kids. I don’t like the sound of those guys at all.
He was spotted twice at the bus stop at around the time Lucy said he made the call the morning after the festival. He asked a local what time the bus was due
@@pooooornopigeon IF she was a true friend, she'd tell LE everything so there'd be the best chance of finding him. Reminds me of Sebastian's mom and dad, leaving out details in order to cover themselves. Lots of fig leaves.
"My friend Jay" also sounds like the start to a eulogy. She knows he's dead. The see no evil, hear no evil, and do no evil photo with the ominous caption of +1 tells us everything.
None of that storytelling needed to be on the GFM page. Just that he had gone missing and the reason she wanted to raise the funds, eg. For help to search for the family to fly out, to pay for flyers or posters to be printed, yet she chose to highlight her own movements in that night.
She talked to him in the morning or atleast says she talked to him. Also I read his ex girlfriend was also on the trip and some others they knew and Lucy apparently had been there 17 times this year and scrubbed her social media but someone went on the waybackMachine and took screenshots of her previous trip pics. Maybe drug mules and they swallowed pills coke and he didn't give his up or something and they found him
"Lucy Mae Law" - so many red flags. Why did she have to "attend?" you go voluntary. to any of these festivals unless u r working there. She is covering herself & establishing an alibi by saying she left alone-uneccesary to say-something happened just then. Internal conflict. His battery gone flat with 1% no water etc....prior Lucy what happened then?
Why does Lucy say she rang 911 ?? She’s been to Spain numerous times . The emergency number in Spain is 112 even I know that and I’ve only been once in my life .
On a side note i feel covid and lockdown has changed society forever as a whole and not for the better. People are struggling, mental health is poor, people are angry and i see it spilling out onto social media which im guilty of myself at times. Even crimes are getting worse and more women are committing violent crimes than ever before. The world we currently live in is so negative and hateful and were so desensitised to violance and death. The the future of society truly scares me...
Why are you expecting him to be coherent enough to problem solve like that? He had been raving for days, had minimum sleep, was very likely dehydrated before setting off on the journey, and was likely still under the influence when he thought walking 10 hours would be a good idea.
That’s what made me think it was odd he sent a screenshot of his location ( only reason I could think that a screenshot would be sent whist on 1% is to edit it to take out the metadata and the time and date from the screenshot) she didn’t even explain why he phoned her she didn’t say he wanted me to get help to find him and the half finished sentence about go back to where you were and I will come and get you! Well he didn’t know where that was but obviously Lucy knew where it was or how could she offer to get him if he went off with two friends that she didn’t know or where it was
@@janedoh123 exactly i said this from start plus she said she found the house from jays snap chat photo of the stairs and plant pot lol he didn’t know where he had been or where he was so how did she know the house was in the town it was
It struck me as odd that Jay’s mum didn’t say Lucy’s name or refer to her as Jay’s friend. She talks about the call the ‘ last person he made contact with’. Her volume lowers and her voice almost trails off too. Struck me that she didn’t see Lucy as a close friend or didn’t know her well or didn’t like her. Seemed very distancing language to me.
Just a thought,,, what if he was running from someone and in too much of hurry to get out of sight, hence not waiting for the bus in open space .... Just a thought!!.
Please, take a look at a video from Masca, the road to and from Santiago del Teide until Buenavista. The chances of him running anywhere along that mountain road after a whole weekend of partying, i don't think so. Not even healthy hikers will RUN up that road. Bikers will bike but RUN..with a hangover from the whole weekend?..naah..he would have run 10 meters at the most steep uphill. . I would post a link here but content creators are not keen on that, and it is very difficult here to explain where he was last seen; ( he spoke with my friend Ofelia who is the owner of the shop next to the bus stop. note not the only bus stop, but the LAST bus stop if you are on your way toward Buenavista from Santiago del Teide where the bus turns around on a loop route., asking her for the bus time, apparently. Later she saw him WALKING when she was on the way to Buenavista herself and she though, oh the dude is walking in the wrong direction..however, he did not walk in to NOTHING. He walked ALONG THE ROAD(only one road) in order for her to be able to make such an observation. If you go off that road, you down in to ravines and more ravines. UP from the road you would not even want to try because it's all straight horizontal cliff. Why would someone walk in to ravines without houses in a state of thirst with no tel charge? Nah.. Still the best thing to do is to "take a drive" to Masca via a video. I assure you all that will clear up a lot like..naah..that did not happen.
The video with the audio of Jay seemingly being stabbed seems to gel with Lucy's statement, she left early (having watched him being stabbed - but still alive), and left the guys to get on with it. She leaves herself room to be blissfully ignorant of what went on, but she knows damn well the outcome wasn't good.
His phone was 1%? Did he tell her that? I have never had a phone that would not shut down before it reached 1%, and that charge certainly would not last for their conversation, so she is lying or he lied to her. The Go Fund Me makes me wonder if he has gone into hiding so they can run a scam, but otherwise, for some reason her statement reminds me of the guy whose football buddies died in his backyard, drugs having made them pass out when outside in winter. Maybe I am just picking up on a guilty knowledge kind of thing. I never realized how much deception goes on; I never even used to wonder if I was being lied to, and therefore have been quite vulnerable, trusting untrustworthy people. I do believe you have even helped me be safer in the world. I cannot thank you enough for that.
while it seems unlikely that he’d leave his friends for two strangers, we was probably heavily intoxicated by alcohol and drugs. it’s not unheard of for people do it on party holidays, however niave it is.
The thing that sticks out to me is where she says she was tired from the weekend looking at her instagram reel she looks like she’s a hard party animal still dancing away in Ibiza sunset parties . It’s not something she would not be used to being up all night and day partying
Peter you were right again! There's footage of a beach fight involving Jay with Lucy the night before he dissapeared. The GoFundMe should cover the cost of the stolen Rolex. I'd swear there's duping delight in that Mother's face!
Peter - there is talk of a great sum of money being owed - could the fundraiser be to service that debt? Something of a 'planned' prank/disappearance for as long as it took? Could his violent past have caught up with him and he ran into his victim or friends of his victim by chance? Could this Lucy in any way be 'connected' to the victim or his friends and might it have been some kind of honey trap to deliver him into their hands. Just a few crazy thoughts and probably completely off-beam.
When doing serious harm to others expect reprisals,lay very low for a long time. There is a dark under belly in Tenerife where many would readily accept an envelope to disappear someone without a second thought to fund habits,lifestyle.
His mum at the very least knew he was there to sell drugs… the fact she says he’ll want to go to all these events after like Lucy apparently does all the time implies she knew what was going on.. and explains why she started the kidnap narrative
The timeline is wrong Lucy says she had a call from Jay at 8.30am who was lost without water and phone about to die However the woman from the village saw Jay at 8.50am walking through the village Something is amiss
He’s also been caught on camera in the evening of the Monday in a town a couple of miles away 🤔 seems he had many chances to get help, charge his phone etc but hasn’t. His instagram has also been accessed 🤷🏼♀️
Maybe you/someone can clarify, did she already know Jay before leaving the UK as a friend/how close they were or did she meet Jay in Tenerife and then become so called friends? Because to me it looks like she is trying to distance herself & perhaps she may have set him up possibly lead him to Tenerife or even stitch him up at the festival, I can't imagine wanting to leave early if you went all that way for a festival/gig? That would be my first question, but with other cases like this their are more questions than answers!
@@twinmum2600 so who is the other friend since their has been no mention of this other friend in the mainstream media? The father is now blaming police & doesn’t believe the police’s theory that he walked off and got lost?
She feels guilty because she could have helped Jay more she confronted a dangerous situation and subsequently scarpered asap and left Jay behind to face the music
I wonder if anyone has seen the latest TV interview with Brad, it seems there were things he said that hadn't been reported, that he recieved a snap chat from Jay saying he was sliding down the mountain.
I cant believe how he's being presented as an angel when he's a thug. Nor do I get why his mother needs £30k from a Go Fund me. Its not like the police charge for the search.
No Lucy started the go fund me the mother wasn’t even mentioned in the post, i think Lucy jumped on the bandwagon for what the money was for and there’s conflicting information on the length of time he was missing and i don’t understand why she’s not been interviewed at length by the police The mother was in the police station yesterday for 8 hours ( the mother said that) to update her on the search 8 hours sounds more like for an official interview otherwise she would be getting updates from the police at her residence in Tenerife
I'm wondering if they were involved in dealing drugs, and this would be something Lucy would be afraid to admit, especially in a foreign country where the police are going to crack down and she may end up in a Spanish Prison
There are houses and cabins miles from civilisation, but not apartments. If you live in an apartment, then you live in a building (or buildings) with other apartment dwellers, and where there are apartments there is an infrastructure - roads, paths, utilities, and probably somewhere for those people to shop and get petrol/gas. Also, how was she privy to this information? Did these "people" simply state "Hey, we live in an apartment, miles from civilisation"? That would be a very off-putting statement coming from strangers.
If Peter hyatt says it, I believe it, gives excellent insight and relate to 'baby' as vulnerable and needs protecting, this is an obvious reflection on Jay when caught up in criminal activity a couple of years ago I do believe Lucy knows more, she doesn't name other friend on holiday nor the two men in the apartment, is this because Lucy knows them and believes we may know them too, hence no names?
If you're talking about Peter Faulding in the Nicola Bulley case, i think your description of him is wrong. He was up against the Police who did him wrong. They didn't tell him to stay away from the media which is what they would normally do so he went ahead and gave an update. Peter has had to put in complaints to the Chief commissioner etc because of the way he was treated.
💯 and the fact they smeered his reputation and did not include him in inquest was apauling. If I were the Spanish I'd want Lancashire police to stay away from this one too.
@SunflowerPower22 Yes, very appalling. Peter has only ever done the right thing and has on many occasion worked on cases for free. The Police have since apologised for the way he was treated on this case and Peter would be within his right to sue them but probably out of respect to Nicola and the family, he probably won't.
He did find her, have you seen his podcast, he made the police aware on the first day he identified a target, the police said the target was negative, however he was 100% it was a target. If the police had allowed his team to dive she would have been found on his first day. I can send you the podcast if you want
He did not find her body. A member of the public found her floating in the river and he RECOVERED her body. If police used the language target was negative it means they did search the spot he identified. Bodies move in water. Do you remember him saying weeks before she was found that he was sure she wasn't in that river? On live TV??
There is also a cultural angle here. I think for you as an American it is not as clear cut to try and translate British peoples emotions and body language.
I fully agree. An English person does not use the English language in the same way an American does- in fact the way language is used varies from county to county. We also are culturally different.
So glad you said that about the mother. She's clearly grieving and is terrified of discovering that her son has died. Awful people online trolling her is disgusting.
I never go online, so nobody makes sick comments about me. Jay's mum should do the same - stay away from social media, especially when you're vulnerable.
Greetings from Ireland Peter. I find your videos very educational as I’ve always been very interest in human behavior and I have been following you for a few years. Would you mind if I shared this particular video on Facebook please?
I think people need to lay off the mother. Lucy clearly knows more great point, if she left a rave at 8 p.m., how did she know he left with 2 males if she was in her apartment.
Knowing the drug world as I do from past experience, I think there was probably a fight and Lucy has ran. Judging from your analysis, Peter, I think violence took place and she knows this and bounced as soon as it kicked off!
I think whatever has happened to him is no more than an accident but that Lucy and perhaps his mother are being disingenuous about the reason he was there and what he was doing. The public have picked up on something being “off” , but perhaps that is being extrapolated into more than it actually is with all these wild theories we are seeing about gangland hits etc.
A friend of mine went missing on the island of madeira around the same time of year. Same weather and simular landscape. It never even made local news. He was never found and they never found his body. Upon doing some research i was amazed to find out how many tourists go missing from accidents usually falling off the cliffs and going into the sea every year and are just never found. Very sad but happens very regularly unfortunately.
Sorry to hear that happened to your friend. After Michael Mosley I notice there has been recent reporting in the media about other missing tourist in the Greek islands. It must happen all the time but was never extensively reported until it was someone “news worthy”.
I wondered if this was a money scam that intentionally 'copied' the Michael Mosley death. It's possible that Jay is alive and part of the scam or hiding disappearance to get away from people he crossed. Yes, people can be that cruel (to do that to his family). Most likely he's just died and not been found but the above is a possibility.
Thanks so much, Peter. I appreciate your insight. Just an aside... I don't use my real name when I'm on social media. It's a matter of privacy, and it feels safer.
I think that’s a wise decision. These days the internet can be a very dangerous place & I think any steps to protect yourself can only be a good thing. I use my middle name only & always have done. I think we can all see that there are some real crazies who lurk in comments & they can get nasty at the simplest disagreement. They clearly haven’t learned that disagreements are normal & actually very healthy when used in the right way.
I was only referring to analysts. You’ll notice that several are usually present for the live videos. They all use their real names and work in a team setting on law enforcement cases. It’s fine that you don’t.
@@PeterHyatt Oh, of course, as in a professional capacity. I've heard you mention it each livestram, and I misunderstood the meaning. Thank you for your response and clarification.
its very interesting watching your videos, do you think we will receive more statements from Lucy, family or other parties involved. There has also been a lot of speculation his friend brad had spoken to him the morning prior to him going missing. Does anyone have any receipts on brad?
I think the mother may be trying to white wash her son a bit with the word baby also, considering his past. She want's her pure lovely little baby boy back , the one that never caused any trouble.
Jay slater has a public instagram account constantly showing his drug use back to 2021 with his group of road man friends. even prior to his involvement with gangs and his violent offence, his mum would of known about him using drugs at 16. which fits what you say about the struggle with him and his mum
I think the bits she is leaving out is the drug taking which is understandable, maybe she gave him some drugs and feels she can’t say that to the cops. It’s awful I don’t think people are being fair with this poor mum people are wishing this poor young guy dead, and are fixated on there theories despite the evidence. Maybe Lucy has been involved in knocking out drugs which most don’t have a problem with but on obviously with what has happened to Jay if she admits that she might get arrested she is only a youngster herself, it’s not as if it is going to help the guy now
I can't / won't comment on the mother or on Lucy. But Jay having bought cigarettes early in the morning but no water from the shop was strange... Especially with him apparently soon afterwards embarking on a long trek. I don't know if there was any one else involved or not, though. That will still all be being investigated by those on the ground.
He could have drank ten gallons of water from the tap in the house.( Best quality water on the whole island) He could also have returned to the house after finding out he had another hour and a half to wait. Why didn't he? Was he asked to leave the house? And Ofelia whom he asked for the bus time, actually owns the shop right by the bus stop, he could have gotten plenty to drink there, sit down in the shadow and just wait for the bus.
@@blu4085 - Yeah, but he didn’t because he was a young fool buzzing off his tits on gear. There’s no Grand Conspiracy, just another unremarkable death of a teenage hedonist. Good luck finding the carcass in such a vast space.
Greetings, "I left alone, earlier than everyone else." Lucy may have left alone, but connected with someone or others after 'leaving alone.' She left - alone. But, did she remain alone? And who, and how many, is 'everyone else?' Is this everyone else as in EVERYONE? Every single other person at the festival? Surely not. Did nobody leave before Lucy? Not a single person at the festival left before Lucy? Surely somebody did. Since she is declaring she left, alone, before everyone else, it seems to suggest she has some folks in mind - specific folks. Is Lucy leaving 'alone' simply Lucy leaving first? Only to later be joined by everyone else? 2 minutes later? 2 hours later? Who and how many is this 'everyone else?' Because I was 'tired,' she said. Being tired is an almost daily response to the question: "Hey. What's wrong? You ok?" ... "Yeah. I'm just tired." ... When, in fact, the person is not ok at all because, say, he is worried or mad. I'd love to hear any thoughts. Cheers!
22:40 "A psychic isn't an innocuous person with an opinion, but someone, often with a personality disorder, who believes himself to be more special than anyone else and is predatory in nature " that was brilliant Peter, thanks 😁
Jay Slater, 18, of Fountains Way, ACCRINGTON - 18 month community order with 25 days rehabilitation activities and 150 hours unpaid work. Convicted of s18 wounding with the intent to cause grievous bodily harm and violent disorder in August 2023, when he was aged 18. He is now 19. Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time of the attack, suffered a head injury so serious his skull was exposed, and wounds to his shoulders and legs in the attack close to the Old Paper Mill in Hermitage Street, Rishton, in August 2021. The Daily Record: Eight thugs who split boy's head open with machete dodge jail The teens were slapped with community service after attacking Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time, with a machete, an axe and a golf club. By Rachel Smith Eve Beattie 19 JUN 2024 Please compare pictures of the convicted Jay Slater in the Lancashire Post article: Eight handed community and rehabilitation orders over attack 4th August 2023, with any other pictures of missing Jay. It is the same person. Tom Hilton, the victim, was jailed for 14 months, disqualified from driving for 25 months and must sit an extended re-test if he wants his licence back. He pled guilty to attempted burglary, theft of a motor vehicle and dangerous driving. Before conviction for these offences, he had 14 convictions for 28 offences. The court also heard that on committing these offences on February 12, Hilton was in breach of two community orders which had been imposed on him, one just three days earlier and one in November 2021 which was a two-year order. Recorder Timothy Hannam KC said: “You have an awful record for someone of your age. “You’ve had a great many chances to change your ways but these offences are so serious that only a custodial sentence is appropriate. “This was a prolonged period of bad driving being chased by police. The speeds were terrifyingly high in built up areas. You were lucky the streets were relatively empty." Source: Lancashire Telegraph - Rishton teen jailed for stealing car and taking police on 70mph chase 30th March 2023
@@scrubthesurface Imagine information like a hose pipe with water flowing through it. The media is a big foot pressing down on the pipe allowing only a certain amount of water to pass. They control the narrative and therefore control what people think/believe. 90% of people believe the main stream media without question. It is very powerful.
Why would you leave early without making sure your friends were OK and safe? By saying that his phone was only on 1% is she trying to convey that her conversation with Jay was very short and therfore would not contain much information that would be of use? Another point about the 1% phone charge . Given his lost in rural setting a phone would use a lot of power trying to establish a signal and even at 2 or 3% based on the health of the battery would quickly go dead upon initiation of a phone call, seconds rather than minutes. Did he contact the police did she?
@@jesclifford88 Not every human being is the same, sometimes people are not keen to go on holidays for various reasons. It's not a black and white conclusion.
I cannot agree more with Peter with regard to his opinion on 'psychics'. I would go further and say these con artists should be prosecuted for preying on grieving and otherwise vulnerable people.
I personally think you need to take into consideration of slight language /dialect differences. I live not very far from where Jay and his family are from. The term 'Baby' for a child is very frequently used, regardless of the age of the person. For example I'm 41 and my 76 year old Mother still calls me her 'baby', as I'm her youngest child. As for the Go Fund Me post, we also need to take into consideration that Lucy is a 19 year old, she has been out partying, most probably very little sleep, or food and an excess of alcohol or possible other substances. She has found herself in a situation that nobody would want to be in, so her thought processing ability under the extreme stress and most possible guilt of thinking what if she didn't leave him, isn't going to be perfect. That is a huge undertaking for anyone, let alone a 19 year old, on what sounds like their first foreign holiday without any parents. As far as I am aware, Jay's mother has stated that the money raised so far is still being held for the time being and that so far they have funded the flights and accommodation themselves. However nobody knows how long this nightmare is going to last, plus then the costs or repatriation of the body if the worst has happened. These days, especially over here, Go Fund Me accounts are made for so many reasons, and very frequently. Personally I'm giving Lucy the benefit of the doubt, she is a 19 year old girl, going through absolute hell, on what should have been a holiday of a lifetime. She was most probably thinking of any way that she could help the family, and this was her way of doing it.
I really think the go fund me page going up straight away caused a lot of suspicion in this case .Thats why people are judging this family. All i can say is God love them they must be utterly devastated. I just pray their son Jay is found ❤
It’s really strange case with not logic! This boy went with this two British guys to the other side of the beautiful island, to stay there 1 hour, not to recharge his phone, and high as a kite, went for walk into a Laurisilva forest, with changes of weather in the night, to minor 1 under cero with fogs, unbelievable !! This has to be something else! I’ve been in that area trekking, and you need a map and a local guide too!! If he’s there probably died of hipertermia, as he was dressed up to go to the beach, and that area is very humid and cold in the night! It’s quite scary forest in the night, and the logic thing is to returned over his feet’s to the roads!! I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY HE HASNT BEEN FOUNDED! That forest hasn’t got any animals or insects or sneaks that could kill you, the only thing is you need to be preparedto the heat what it’s n with fogs during the night!
The only known drug person is the man from the b&b, he runs a weed dispensary there i think which is owned by a uk rapper (forgot his name) who is a childhood friend of his (b&b guy) a quick google search shows that dispensary was broken into a couple months ago and filmed by the offenders and footage used in a music video, video is on youtube.
Jay and his friends have drugs charges on their criminal records for class As when they were all around 16, so around the same time as the machete attack. It’s also recently come to light from UK police representatives that drugs were involved, as in Jay directly chose to pump them into his system the night his life most likely ended… make of that what you will
Peter serious question and for anyone else in law or policing do you think the police will be investigating her Lucy behind the scenes as the search is going on . Do you think there investigators will be looking at this statement in go fund me aswell ?
@@PeterHyatt thanks for the reply. I think this is what most people won’t realise that everything people think about what she’s said won’t be going unnoticed by police . When she said she went home early ALONE surely the police have asked and where is home what time did you arrive home and checked cctv or with reception etc. it’s been 7 days surely by now if she was up to anything the police would have pulled her in and have they verified she was telling truth about going home early etc we just don’t know
@@PeterHyatt if I was a police officer I would be looking at her pattern of travel bank details looking in to how she affords all the travel she does getting her phone records etc etc they are more then likely doing the same. She might not be involved in him going missing but she’s definitely hiding something else about herself to not get in serious trouble over something totally unrelated
My husband and i have been thinking of that possibility also, that he is hiding somewhere, and the story will develop as from when he makes an appearance again. ( Nobody can hide forever in Tenerife. It's an Island after all. Many have tried, it never works out in a finite space surrounded by a huge body of water. ) I gather that Jay is not the type to want to stay inside and live and "invisible" life either.
If she left early how did she know he left with 2 guys . Why would these guys stay so far away from where the rave was , one of them wouldn't be able to drink as they were driving, if she has explained he was lost in the mountains after going to a party how would she know where the accommodation was snd apparently she turned up there. How ?? ( party for 3 people!) the accommodation is owned by a man that has a dodgy history snd it's his wife that .. says.. she saw Jay leave and walk away . . Sorry for all the questions x
Alisa was in some kind of psychotic state. The whole Elisa Lam/Lam Elisa (tb thing going on in area, if I remember rightly) thing, though, is VERY weird! I think Pat Brown did a video on the case of Elisa.
The ticket only price for the NRG weekend was £309 that’s about €360…that’s about €120 per day! That’s a lot for a 19 year old (plus flight/accommodation/transfers/food/drink/taxi/misc!!!!! That’s a lot of money for that age group) would Lucy really not make the effort to see out the weekend?…and party on (sleep on the Plane home, or the next day) would she leave early, alone, because she was tired? Was it safe for her to leave alone? Why were none of these ‘friends’ looking out for each other?
Im sending you all the love and healing thoughts...You gave me hope during the pandemic by seeing through all of it. I hope i can give hope back to you. Lots of love, get well Peter❤❤❤
I would like you to take note of Jay's friend Brad who came up with a statement 11 days after his dissapearance. He said he spoke to Jay on the phone. Who spoke to Jay last,was it Lucy or Brad?
Last year I took my teenage son to the town where Jay was partying. It's like the wild west. Totally lawless. I was raised in Newcastle Upon Tyne and i know how to party but playa de las Americas is like being in ‘Grand Theft Auto’. Lord knows what he has been involved in.
Sounds like it. Met the wrong people..
Yep!
Paul I’m from Newcastle aswell worked as a dj in many of our underground rave scene dj in kiss affinity ikon hanger 13 the boat all over. I went to Tenerife few years ago and we where getting pills of youngsters selling them just like how Lucy and her mates look one of the lads even had a hat on saying MR DUST wey a bet you can tell what we where buying of him. All the people we bought stuff of where English kids somethings going on with Lucy and her whole crew if you see her instagram she’s having 13 holiday in the past six months to festivals and rave events all over Europe if that doesn’t tell you what she’s up to I don’t know what does
@@WarrickHunt It's crystal clear to those of us in or familiar with the scene. I think most people can pick up substances were involved but not to what extent. Ending up with randoms at festivals is part of the experience, even if you're not supplying, something very specific to raves/festivals. Your average person going out to a club sticks to their crew. At festivals everyone is looked at as family-ish.
@@someoneusa this Lucy is deffo more then just a flyer girl or trying to get you in to the bar this is what she apperently was doing for four months in Tenerife in 2023 the life style she has is deffo not from wages from doing that job
Every person trying to get us in there bars asking us if we wanted pills or cocaine all young English lads and lasses lads thinking there gangsters and lasses up there own arses who love themselves it was laughable. As some of us where connected with local dealers in Newcastle and seing these youngsters just being open and asking anyone one was mental
Apparently Lucy Law had visited Tenerife 17 times this year.? I think the Spanish police know there is more to this than a missing person.
17 times?!
@@CrimeAuditors yeah it was all on her Facebook until she took it all down.
17 times! I darent even hazard a guess where someone so young can raise enough money for that, plus accommodation and keep, without my eyebrows going up!! Where I work hard and can’t afford a holiday full stop….how (unless illegal means) can this be done?, very concerning, as it doesn’t sit right at all.
What kind of a little piece is she?
@@sambobrooklyn316 took it down! This clowns getting found out no doubt... Complete amateur.....shes got the arrogance and confidence to spin lies just not the intelligence
Lucy has more holidays than Judith Chalmers
😂
Interesting that you mentioned Faucis expression of dupers delight, Matt Hancock (the UK health secretary in 2020) was exactly the same
That despicable (Han)cock was actually laughing as he pretended to cry on TV. And the TV presenters went along with it, he was 'emotional'. 🙄
hopfully you read this comment, there is a new (strange late info) interview with a friend of Jay Slater who after 12 days suddenly tells in a interview that he recieved snapshots from Jay after he was missing the first night..hopefully you want to analyze that interview
Thank you
The guy who took Jay back to the air bnb has spoken out would be so interesting to hear your analysis on this.
Notice that the location screenshot from jay to Lucy is not showing up as him in the contact circle showboat on the map
Obviously this was not a live location but it is not showing the time and date or network and battery life which would be there on a screenshot if you took a screenshot of your location
Try it out yourself
Why would he have time to crop it all out on 1%
She also tells ( me anyway) that she knows where ( or is unknowingly revealing that she knew the people who he went with) to pick him up from and told him to go back there even though she asked for his location and it shows he’s in the middle of a field almost).
She is up to her neck in this and she is trying to save her own life potentially
it truly makes me believe the police investigating are corrupt, as lucy’s phone exposed alot of her inconstancies. they can access the sound information of her call with jay and see what was said, they can see that she called him and not her calling him, they can see her location for months previously and see when she left the rave and where she went, see that her evidence provided for jays location is missing the battery percentage at the top and doesn’t even look like his phone took the screenshot. even see her involvement with dealing drugs. like???
@@tallula5164it’s possible that Brad knows what has happened
Thank you, v interesting, I believe drugs are involved. Why would a 19yr old boy go off with 2 men in their 40s....money & drugs, my opinion. Sad ending, I'm sure the mother has a gut feeling.
I like to look at the statement from the position of the pronouns.
I have come on holiday
I was tired from the weekend.
I left alone earlier than everyone else because
I was tired from the weekend.
I woke up to a phone call.
He was lost in the mountains.
He wasn’t aware of his surroundings.
He desperately needed a drink.
His phone was on 1%.
He had met two people on Sunday night and left with them to go to their apartment.
Their apartment was miles from civilization and in a secluded spot…
He left at 8am.
His last location was…
He has no water.
He has no coat/suitable clothing.
I was looking in the middle of the night.
We are all so worried.
We just want him home.
To me it looks like it’s all about her in the beginning; she distances herself completely from Jay. She looked for him all night, she’s the hero, she did everything right and he’s done everything wrong.
It seems like she judges and blames him for the bind and she sees it that he’s gotten himself into this bind-being missing-she points out how he himself went wrong at every turn
and then she becomes a sympathetic group of “we …”. We ‘just’ want him home.
Very, very manipulative girl here.
Peter, if you or one of your people reads this: do I see a shift in referential index here? My grasp of that concept isn’t the best, but it seems to me she stays mostly in the past and then speaks in present tense.
Am I right?
She even has the media writing "missing teen Jays friend Lucy is doing everything she can to help find him". To me she seems like a narcissist. Also she spsdly been to Tenerife 17 times this year and that she had her social media wiped of all prior trips
Thank you for this, it’s certainly food for thought!
@@mmcmiddlechild Did she use his name even once?
I don’t remember and I may not have written it down because I only wrote down the sentences with pronouns.
And I am from the school of thought that when someone doesn’t use the other person’s name, there’s a reason.
I'm in Britain and been WAITING on you or pat brown to discuss this ..thanks so much x
I don’t believe Lucy is guilty of being involved in causing physical harm to Jay but her language appeared to me to be showing that her first priority was self preservation rather than concern for her friends immediate welfare.
Did she say to Jay “Stay there, I’m coming to get you?” Then what changed her mind? She did not go & get him, she phoned the police. A thought she had resulted in her not going to find her friend who was distressed.
Personally, I would have driven up there & if I couldn’t find him then I would call the police. She then set up a Go Fund me so was her priority creating a story & money? I don’t know. Annie
I would have called the police and driven there.
Exactly. It’s common knowledge on the streets of Tenerife that she’s a big time drug peddler so I’d say she has a vested interest in finding him before contacting police, if what she says is true…it’s not been verified that she spoke to him and she’s left things out so I’m starting to believe the story of him selling drugs and losing the bag , which has ended up in him being set up by her and dealers and her making up a load of crap to cover it all, while collecting the missed money.
She’s been saying about the Spanish police “they don’t even speak English “ so how can she claim that she called 911 and reported him missing in the morning after she spoke to him (allegedly) and she said that they told her that they were going to send a helicopter up but she said she spoke to local people where he last was and they didn’t hear any helicopters
so she speaks fluent Spanish
Then they kept putting the phone down on her so she got a taxi to the police station!
She can’t keep her story straight
She’s been saying about the Spanish police “they don’t even speak English “ so how can she claim that she called 911 and reported him missing in the morning after she spoke to him (allegedly) and she said that they told her that they were going to send a helicopter up but she said she spoke to local people where he last was and they didn’t hear any helicopters
so she speaks fluent Spanish
Then they kept putting the phone down on her so she got a taxi to the police station!
She can’t keep her story straight
@@jesclifford88i think it might’ve not quite gone down like that but she obviously has some setup going on in Tenerife and she enrolled jay he looked out of his head on the videos of that night yeah I think he’s lost something and she’s not gonna give the money over to cover the loss
And she ain’t gonna trust jay to earn it back so he collateral damage and she’s done the go fund me to cover the losses
At say £20 a thing that’s 600 to make a 30k debt no? Sounds like she’s saving her own skin but she’s outing herself
I love your channel Peter, especially Madeline McCann analysis . You are amazing👏🇬🇧
I think the answer to this is with the two men Jay stayed with the night of the rave. If he had had enough of the rave he could have simply gone back to his digs to crash and straighten up, and there was no mention of an after party having been proposed. He went there, with those guys for a reason and though it all seemed like a good idea at the time I think that by morning he knew that he needed to leave. I’m guessing no one offered to run him to his accommodation so he decided to take the bus/walk. Nor did anyone offer to phone him a taxi. Either way he headed off, and fast if the lady who saw him leaving is to believed. This suggests to me he wanted out of there, away from those two guys and to put distance between himself and them. Maybe something unpleasant happened in the hours between 0300 and 0730, who knows? Maybe he stole something and wanted out of there asap, maybe drugs were bought or sold, maybe something sexual happened, but for one reason or another Jay obviously felt he couldn’t rely on these two or go back to the house once the bus had left and needed to get moving. This may be why he didn’t stick to the main road. Maybe he thought that at some point these guys would come looking for him, again, it’s just a thought. We have all been young, and no one makes the wisest choices when they’re loaded up on booze and pills, but I think the gaining distance from these guys is significant. I believe these men may have come looking for Jay later in the day and found him. They might be the people photographed or seen near the church and if so I think they took him and that from that point on Jay was in trouble. They had a hire car by all accounts and Jay could well be anywhere. Don’t @ me with ‘amateur detective stuff’ I’m just a mum, with her head full of ‘what would it be like to have a son go missing’ ideas, and a recollection of what it is to be young.
These are my exact thoughts.
Well, I’m hearing I don’t know if it’s the truth, but I’m just saying what I’m hearing, that the two men had this Rolex in the car so I’m wondering if Jay has tried to make a quick getaway with the watch thinking that these guys were asleep or something and they’ve caught up with him, who knows
I would agree with you, Catriona. 💯% dodginess
about those two random s.
My theory is a lot less like a movie script than yours. he went with the 2 men to buy drugs at their apartment, then he got lost in the wilderness trying to get back.
As it's nine days later after your comment, it looks like you were exactly on point. I do tire of people on social media downplaying what civilian "armchair detectives" can add to the solution.
I believe Lucy and Brad left Jay alone. I don’t know if you have watched the videos of Jay at the festival and saw how wasted he was. I believe the 2 men were strangers who helped Jay when they discovered he was on his own and possibly in a mess. I find it very suspicious how Brad is not mentioned even tho he was supposedly still with Jay when Lucy left ‘alone’. There’s some voice notes from Brads Mum I would love to see your view on those especially because Lucy claimed to be the last person to speak to Jay on the phone but then Rachel, Brads Mum, claims he was the last to speak to him.
agreed
What if Jay overdosed and the ''friends'' got scared of being accused of his death because they supplied the drgs and therefore got rid of him. Like Joran van der sloot probably did with Nathalie Holloway on Aruba.
I’m suspicious of those two guys he went with and whether he was drugged and was confused. I mean plenty of men have been drugged with GHB by a stranger unknowingly and either killed or s*xually assaulted. I think Jay must have been under the influence of some kind of drug to have said he’d missed the bus, when in fact it hadn’t left yet, and then deciding to walk back to his hotel. No phone battery, no water and then walking the wrong way. Why on earth he went anywhere with two guys he’d only just met and leaving his friends behind is beyond me. I find it even more strange that from what I gather one was aged 40 and not anywhere near Jays age or his group of friends - just why would he have even considered going with them unless he was under the influence of something as he’d already fallen on the dance floor with a video that was released today. I’m putting my money on those guys having something to do with this and they’d get away with it by letting Jay wander off in the wooded landscape. They definitely need to be questioned further.
They say their flight was pre booked and not booked just because Jay vanished but predators plan in advance and could have only been there knowing about the festival and preying on vulnerable kids. I don’t like the sound of those guys at all.
@@FredaFlynn2008both guys have spoken with police and are now back in the Uk
He was spotted twice at the bus stop at around the time Lucy said he made the call the morning after the festival. He asked a local what time the bus was due
Vanderslot admitted he choked her and hit her and then slid her into the ocean to float away
Why did we have to read Lucy's alibi before we found out a man is missing? What is her first priority? Herself.
Cover.
@@pooooornopigeon IF she was a true friend, she'd tell LE everything so there'd be the best chance of finding him. Reminds me of Sebastian's mom and dad, leaving out details in order to cover themselves. Lots of fig leaves.
"My friend Jay" also sounds like the start to a eulogy. She knows he's dead. The see no evil, hear no evil, and do no evil photo with the ominous caption of +1 tells us everything.
None of that storytelling needed to be on the GFM page. Just that he had gone missing and the reason she wanted to raise the funds, eg. For help to search for the family to fly out, to pay for flyers or posters to be printed, yet she chose to highlight her own movements in that night.
Indeed. Getting her alibi straight from the word go.
Bugger. I missed your live again.
Keep fighting the good fight Peter 🌷
How does she know he left with 2 ppl if she had already left? Red flag..
She talked to him in the morning or atleast says she talked to him. Also I read his ex girlfriend was also on the trip and some others they knew and Lucy apparently had been there 17 times this year and scrubbed her social media but someone went on the waybackMachine and took screenshots of her previous trip pics. Maybe drug mules and they swallowed pills coke and he didn't give his up or something and they found him
"Lucy Mae Law" - so many red flags. Why did she have to "attend?" you go voluntary. to any of these festivals unless u r working there. She is covering herself & establishing an alibi by saying she left alone-uneccesary to say-something happened just then. Internal conflict. His battery gone flat with 1% no water etc....prior Lucy what happened then?
Why does Lucy say she rang 911 ?? She’s been to Spain numerous times . The emergency number in Spain is 112 even I know that and I’ve only been once in my life .
On a side note i feel covid and lockdown has changed society forever as a whole and not for the better. People are struggling, mental health is poor, people are angry and i see it spilling out onto social media which im guilty of myself at times. Even crimes are getting worse and more women are committing violent crimes than ever before. The world we currently live in is so negative and hateful and were so desensitised to violance and death. The the future of society truly scares me...
Hang in there. I think things will improve.
Unfortunately too many people fell for the COVID jabs and now regret their life choice.
Totaly bloody agree. You couldnt be more right. 😊
With his 1% he could have sent his exact location and wait there for help to come
And a snap chat video of a 360 of his surroundings
He could have done, but that he didn't doesn't mean anything at all.
Why are you expecting him to be coherent enough to problem solve like that? He had been raving for days, had minimum sleep, was very likely dehydrated before setting off on the journey, and was likely still under the influence when he thought walking 10 hours would be a good idea.
That’s what made me think it was odd he sent a screenshot of his location ( only reason I could think that a screenshot would be sent whist on 1% is to edit it to take out the metadata and the time and date from the screenshot) she didn’t even explain why he phoned her she didn’t say he wanted me to get help to find him and the half finished sentence about go back to where you were and I will come and get you! Well he didn’t know where that was but obviously Lucy knew where it was or how could she offer to get him if he went off with two friends that she didn’t know or where it was
@@janedoh123 exactly i said this from start plus she said she found the house from jays snap chat photo of the stairs and plant pot lol he didn’t know where he had been or where he was so how did she know the house was in the town it was
It struck me as odd that Jay’s mum didn’t say Lucy’s name or refer to her as Jay’s friend. She talks about the call the ‘ last person he made contact with’. Her volume lowers and her voice almost trails off too. Struck me that she didn’t see Lucy as a close friend or didn’t know her well or didn’t like her. Seemed very distancing language to me.
Just a thought,,, what if he was running from someone and in too much of hurry to get out of sight, hence not waiting for the bus in open space .... Just a thought!!.
Possible scenario
From Dawn Wilson
Please, take a look at a video from Masca, the road to and from Santiago del Teide until Buenavista. The chances of him running anywhere along that mountain road after a whole weekend of partying, i don't think so. Not even healthy hikers will RUN up that road. Bikers will bike but RUN..with a hangover from the whole weekend?..naah..he would have run 10 meters at the most steep uphill. . I would post a link here but content creators are not keen on that, and it is very difficult here to explain where he was last seen; ( he spoke with my friend Ofelia who is the owner of the shop next to the bus stop. note not the only bus stop, but the LAST bus stop if you are on your way toward Buenavista from Santiago del Teide where the bus turns around on a loop route., asking her for the bus time, apparently. Later she saw him WALKING when she was on the way to Buenavista herself and she though, oh the dude is walking in the wrong direction..however, he did not walk in to NOTHING. He walked ALONG THE ROAD(only one road) in order for her to be able to make such an observation. If you go off that road, you down in to ravines and more ravines. UP from the road you would not even want to try because it's all straight horizontal cliff. Why would someone walk in to ravines without houses in a state of thirst with no tel charge? Nah..
Still the best thing to do is to "take a drive" to Masca via a video. I assure you all that will clear up a lot like..naah..that did not happen.
The video with the audio of Jay seemingly being stabbed seems to gel with Lucy's statement, she left early (having watched him being stabbed - but still alive), and left the guys to get on with it. She leaves herself room to be blissfully ignorant of what went on, but she knows damn well the outcome wasn't good.
His phone was 1%? Did he tell her that? I have never had a phone that would not shut down before it reached 1%, and that charge certainly would not last for their conversation, so she is lying or he lied to her.
The Go Fund Me makes me wonder if he has gone into hiding so they can run a scam, but otherwise, for some reason her statement reminds me of the guy whose football buddies died in his backyard, drugs having made them pass out when outside in winter. Maybe I am just picking up on a guilty knowledge kind of thing.
I never realized how much deception goes on; I never even used to wonder if I was being lied to, and therefore have been quite vulnerable, trusting untrustworthy people. I do believe you have even helped me be safer in the world. I cannot thank you enough for that.
Anyone can test it at home. If the battery is
All my phones have gone to 1% and stayed there for a surprisingly long time when browsing. Not long but longer than you would expect.
@@cemoihonay You must spend more money on on your phones than I do. ;) LOL
Also how can Lucy give a statement about who Jay left with if she wasn’t there?
Maybe he had time to tell her an extended story on the 1% ??
The whole story is a load of 💩
I think Lucy knew these people she got away but Jay didn't!????
Thank you Peter. Love this channel. Greetings from Ireland
Did he think he could rip off the dealers and made a big mistake
Lucy is attempting to remove any accountability. What would a young man want to hang with two old men? The story doesn't add up.
Has their age been confirmed`? Cos it would make sense they are plenty older if they stayed in Masca. They were not there for a rave party.
while it seems unlikely that he’d leave his friends for two strangers, we was probably heavily intoxicated by alcohol and drugs. it’s not unheard of for people do it on party holidays, however niave it is.
The thing that sticks out to me is where she says she was tired from the weekend looking at her instagram reel she looks like she’s a hard party animal still dancing away in Ibiza sunset parties . It’s not something she would not be used to being up all night and day partying
Peter you were right again! There's footage of a beach fight involving Jay with Lucy the night before he dissapeared. The GoFundMe should cover the cost of the stolen Rolex. I'd swear there's duping delight in that Mother's face!
Peter - there is talk of a great sum of money being owed - could the fundraiser be to service that debt? Something of a 'planned' prank/disappearance for as long as it took? Could his violent past have caught up with him and he ran into his victim or friends of his victim by chance? Could this Lucy in any way be 'connected' to the victim or his friends and might it have been some kind of honey trap to deliver him into their hands. Just a few crazy thoughts and probably completely off-beam.
When doing serious harm to others expect reprisals,lay very low for a long time. There is a dark under belly in Tenerife where many would readily accept an envelope to disappear someone without a second thought to fund habits,lifestyle.
His mum at the very least knew he was there to sell drugs… the fact she says he’ll want to go to all these events after like Lucy apparently does all the time implies she knew what was going on.. and explains why she started the kidnap narrative
You won't find many kids telling their mum they are going away to sell gear
You are correct.. most wouldn’t.. but she was already aware he was a criminal and in lower class house holds breaking the law isn’t a big deal
Yeeeeh another Peter Hyatt video!! This makes me happy :)
The timeline is wrong Lucy says she had a call from Jay at 8.30am who was lost without water and phone about to die However the woman from the village saw Jay at 8.50am walking through the village Something is amiss
He’s also been caught on camera in the evening of the Monday in a town a couple of miles away 🤔 seems he had many chances to get help, charge his phone etc but hasn’t. His instagram has also been accessed 🤷🏼♀️
@@jesclifford88 According to who?
@@kezzokav5905 The family claimed his accounts have been "hacked." Very convenient.
@@jesclifford88that was never verified.
Maybe you/someone can clarify, did she already know Jay before leaving the UK as a friend/how close they were or did she meet Jay in Tenerife and then become so called friends? Because to me it looks like she is trying to distance herself & perhaps she may have set him up possibly lead him to Tenerife or even stitch him up at the festival, I can't imagine wanting to leave early if you went all that way for a festival/gig?
That would be my first question, but with other cases like this their are more questions than answers!
In the UK it's been reported that they went on the holiday together along with another friend.
@@twinmum2600 so who is the other friend since their has been no mention of this other friend in the mainstream media?
The father is now blaming police & doesn’t believe the police’s theory that he walked off and got lost?
They met at Creamfields in the UK, last year or the year before, so they did already know each other.
She feels guilty because she could have helped Jay more she confronted a dangerous situation and subsequently scarpered asap and left Jay behind to face the music
I wonder if anyone has seen the latest TV interview with Brad, it seems there were things he said that hadn't been reported, that he recieved a snap chat from Jay saying he was sliding down the mountain.
@@ethers666 the plot thickens, I did notice he looked very happy about it all.
@sambobrooklyn316 Yes, I didn't see any worry about his friend at all.
I cant believe how he's being presented as an angel when he's a thug. Nor do I get why his mother needs £30k from a Go Fund me. Its not like the police charge for the search.
No Lucy started the go fund me the mother wasn’t even mentioned in the post, i think Lucy jumped on the bandwagon for what the money was for and there’s conflicting information on the length of time he was missing and i don’t understand why she’s not been interviewed at length by the police
The mother was in the police station yesterday for 8 hours ( the mother said that) to update her on the search 8 hours sounds more like for an official interview otherwise she would be getting updates from the police at her residence in Tenerife
None of searchers or police force or any volunteers can be paid. This is not the U.S.
I don't see anyone painting him as an 'angel'. It's the complete opposite. Does a previous conviction mean that he deserved to die?
@@janedoh123wtf you on about!!!!
P off .
Yep, I see an exhausted mother who is thinking 'no, not again', because her son always causes trouble. I am sorry for her.
I'm wondering if they were involved in dealing drugs, and this would be something Lucy would be afraid to admit, especially in a foreign country where the police are going to crack down and she may end up in a Spanish Prison
Peters techniques have changed my view on the world… not failed me yet..
I agree! But just don't say that Peter is "the devil!!" Lol! Love the name! 🤣🤣👏👏
Hi peter i hope you are well? Please could we get more analysis on the jay slater case as more things has enveloped?
There are houses and cabins miles from civilisation, but not apartments. If you live in an apartment, then you live in a building (or buildings) with other apartment dwellers, and where there are apartments there is an infrastructure - roads, paths, utilities, and probably somewhere for those people to shop and get petrol/gas. Also, how was she privy to this information? Did these "people" simply state "Hey, we live in an apartment, miles from civilisation"? That would be a very off-putting statement coming from strangers.
If Peter hyatt says it, I believe it, gives excellent insight and relate to 'baby' as vulnerable and needs protecting, this is an obvious reflection on Jay when caught up in criminal activity a couple of years ago
I do believe Lucy knows more, she doesn't name other friend on holiday nor the two men in the apartment, is this because Lucy knows them and believes we may know them too, hence no names?
Thanks for the upload. Was wondering about the mothers position regarding her sons behaviour.
25:09 the lad is a wrongen who done harm to people before
If you're talking about Peter Faulding in the Nicola Bulley case, i think your description of him is wrong. He was up against the Police who did him wrong. They didn't tell him to stay away from the media which is what they would normally do so he went ahead and gave an update. Peter has had to put in complaints to the Chief commissioner etc because of the way he was treated.
💯 and the fact they smeered his reputation and did not include him in inquest was apauling. If I were the Spanish I'd want Lancashire police to stay away from this one too.
@SunflowerPower22 Yes, very appalling. Peter has only ever done the right thing and has on many occasion worked on cases for free. The Police have since apologised for the way he was treated on this case and Peter would be within his right to sue them but probably out of respect to Nicola and the family, he probably won't.
Peter was done dirty.
Poor guy. Didn't deserve that.
Oh FFS shut up, the man was a shameless idiot 😂
@TriTr-gk8bo
He told them on the first day where her body was.
They ignored his advice.
Had they listened......
He did find her, have you seen his podcast, he made the police aware on the first day he identified a target, the police said the target was negative, however he was 100% it was a target. If the police had allowed his team to dive she would have been found on his first day. I can send you the podcast if you want
He did not find her body. A member of the public found her floating in the river and he RECOVERED her body. If police used the language target was negative it means they did search the spot he identified. Bodies move in water. Do you remember him saying weeks before she was found that he was sure she wasn't in that river? On live TV??
There is also a cultural angle here. I think for you as an American it is not as clear cut to try and translate British peoples emotions and body language.
I fully agree. An English person does not use the English language in the same way an American does- in fact the way language is used varies from county to county. We also are culturally different.
I think he perhaps has some expertise in this area. Statement analysis is kind of a clue.
Lucy’s gone very quiet now anyone else notice that?
Tbh, I’m not surprised. She’s been battered online. She’s probs been told to keep a low profile.
@@Scooby596what by her Bosses
So glad you said that about the mother. She's clearly grieving and is terrified of discovering that her son has died. Awful people online trolling her is disgusting.
Absolutely shocking, some of the comments are sickening. Whatever she does she’s damned
@@donnaharlow4608 Exactly. She's a distraught mother. Leave her alone.
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I never go online, so nobody makes sick comments about me. Jay's mum should do the same - stay away from social media, especially when you're vulnerable.
Greetings from Ireland Peter. I find your videos very educational as I’ve always been very interest in human behavior and I have been following you for a few years.
Would you mind if I shared this particular video on Facebook please?
I think people need to lay off the mother. Lucy clearly knows more great point, if she left a rave at 8 p.m., how did she know he left with 2 males if she was in her apartment.
Knowing the drug world as I do from past experience, I think there was probably a fight and Lucy has ran. Judging from your analysis, Peter, I think violence took place and she knows this and bounced as soon as it kicked off!
It’s possible.
Maybe she made herself scarce when the 2 guys arrived and that's why she goes to such great pains to say she left because she was tired?
I think whatever has happened to him is no more than an accident but that Lucy and perhaps his mother are being disingenuous about the reason he was there and what he was doing. The public have picked up on something being “off” , but perhaps that is being extrapolated into more than it actually is with all these wild theories we are seeing about gangland hits etc.
Wild theories such as her extensive travelling ? Hmmmmm
A friend of mine went missing on the island of madeira around the same time of year. Same weather and simular landscape. It never even made local news. He was never found and they never found his body. Upon doing some research i was amazed to find out how many tourists go missing from accidents usually falling off the cliffs and going into the sea every year and are just never found. Very sad but happens very regularly unfortunately.
Sorry to hear that happened to your friend.
After Michael Mosley I notice there has been recent reporting in the media about other missing tourist in the Greek islands. It must happen all the time but was never extensively reported until it was someone “news worthy”.
I wondered if this was a money scam that intentionally 'copied' the Michael Mosley death.
It's possible that Jay is alive and part of the scam or hiding disappearance to get away from people he crossed.
Yes, people can be that cruel (to do that to his family).
Most likely he's just died and not been found but the above is a possibility.
What is your read on her tv interview? where she has her back to the camera?
Thanks so much, Peter. I appreciate your insight.
Just an aside... I don't use my real name when I'm on social media. It's a matter of privacy, and it feels safer.
I think that’s a wise decision. These days the internet can be a very dangerous place & I think any steps to protect yourself can only be a good thing. I use my middle name only & always have done. I think we can all see that there are some real crazies who lurk in comments & they can get nasty at the simplest disagreement. They clearly haven’t learned that disagreements are normal & actually very healthy when used in the right way.
I was only referring to analysts. You’ll notice that several are usually present for the live videos. They all use their real names and work in a team setting on law enforcement cases.
It’s fine that you don’t.
@@PeterHyatt
Oh, of course, as in a professional capacity.
I've heard you mention it each livestram, and I misunderstood the meaning.
Thank you for your response and clarification.
its very interesting watching your videos, do you think we will receive more statements from Lucy, family or other parties involved. There has also been a lot of speculation his friend brad had spoken to him the morning prior to him going missing. Does anyone have any receipts on brad?
I think the mother may be trying to white wash her son a bit with the word baby also, considering his past. She want's her pure lovely little baby boy back , the one that never caused any trouble.
Only natural.
Jay slater has a public instagram account constantly showing his drug use back to 2021 with his group of road man friends. even prior to his involvement with gangs and his violent offence, his mum would of known about him using drugs at 16. which fits what you say about the struggle with him and his mum
I think the bits she is leaving out is the drug taking which is understandable, maybe she gave him some drugs and feels she can’t say that to the cops. It’s awful I don’t think people are being fair with this poor mum people are wishing this poor young guy dead, and are fixated on there theories despite the evidence. Maybe Lucy has been involved in knocking out drugs which most don’t have a problem with but on obviously with what has happened to Jay if she admits that she might get arrested she is only a youngster herself, it’s not as if it is going to help the guy now
I can't / won't comment on the mother or on Lucy. But Jay having bought cigarettes early in the morning but no water from the shop was strange... Especially with him apparently soon afterwards embarking on a long trek. I don't know if there was any one else involved or not, though. That will still all be being investigated by those on the ground.
He's very likely a simpleton hedonist who regularly made appalling decisions prior to this final one.
He could have drank ten gallons of water from the tap in the house.( Best quality water on the whole island) He could also have returned to the house after finding out he had another hour and a half to wait. Why didn't he? Was he asked to leave the house? And Ofelia whom he asked for the bus time, actually owns the shop right by the bus stop, he could have gotten plenty to drink there, sit down in the shadow and just wait for the bus.
@@blu4085 - Yeah, but he didn’t because he was a young fool buzzing off his tits on gear. There’s no Grand Conspiracy, just another unremarkable death of a teenage hedonist. Good luck finding the carcass in such a vast space.
Greetings,
"I left alone, earlier than everyone else."
Lucy may have left alone, but connected with someone or others after 'leaving alone.' She left - alone. But, did she remain alone?
And who, and how many, is 'everyone else?' Is this everyone else as in EVERYONE? Every single other person at the festival? Surely not. Did nobody leave before Lucy? Not a single person at the festival left before Lucy? Surely somebody did.
Since she is declaring she left, alone, before everyone else, it seems to suggest she has some folks in mind - specific folks.
Is Lucy leaving 'alone' simply Lucy leaving first? Only to later be joined by everyone else? 2 minutes later? 2 hours later?
Who and how many is this 'everyone else?'
Because I was 'tired,' she said. Being tired is an almost daily response to the question: "Hey. What's wrong? You ok?" ... "Yeah. I'm just tired." ... When, in fact, the person is not ok at all because, say, he is worried or mad.
I'd love to hear any thoughts.
Cheers!
Really really interesting perspective Peter I learned a lot! Thankyou!
22:40 "A psychic isn't an innocuous person with an opinion, but someone, often with a personality disorder, who believes himself to be more special than anyone else and is predatory in nature " that was brilliant Peter, thanks 😁
Searchers are only human too. I am sceptical of Jay Slater after reading bout his evil history on yt
the go fund me was cashed in at £36k
Wrong it's at £47,560 right now.
I’ve heard he was involved in a machete attack in 21 could be why he’s missing
Jay Slater, 18, of Fountains Way, ACCRINGTON - 18 month community order with 25 days rehabilitation activities and 150 hours unpaid work. Convicted of s18 wounding with the intent to cause grievous bodily harm and violent disorder in August 2023, when he was aged 18. He is now 19.
Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time of the attack, suffered a head injury so serious his skull was exposed, and wounds to his shoulders and legs in the attack close to the Old Paper Mill in Hermitage Street, Rishton, in August 2021.
The Daily Record: Eight thugs who split boy's head open with machete dodge jail
The teens were slapped with community service after attacking Tom Hilton, who was 17 at the time, with a machete, an axe and a golf club.
By Rachel Smith Eve Beattie
19 JUN 2024
Please compare pictures of the convicted Jay Slater in the Lancashire Post article: Eight handed community and rehabilitation orders over attack 4th August 2023, with any other pictures of missing Jay. It is the same person.
Tom Hilton, the victim, was jailed for 14 months, disqualified from driving for 25 months and must sit an extended re-test if he wants his licence back. He pled guilty to attempted burglary, theft of a motor vehicle and dangerous driving. Before conviction for these offences, he had 14 convictions for 28 offences.
The court also heard that on committing these offences on February 12, Hilton was in breach of two community orders which had been imposed on him, one just three days earlier and one in November 2021 which was a two-year order.
Recorder Timothy Hannam KC said: “You have an awful record for someone of your age.
“You’ve had a great many chances to change your ways but these offences are so serious that only a custodial sentence is appropriate.
“This was a prolonged period of bad driving being chased by police. The speeds were terrifyingly high in built up areas. You were lucky the streets were relatively empty."
Source: Lancashire Telegraph - Rishton teen jailed for stealing car and taking police on 70mph chase
30th March 2023
Fucking bore off man the whole of UA-cam has heard about it we don’t need to keep hearing it that’s old news
3yrs later in another country ...at the same time he there on holiday reaching
Why are the media covering up his past when it could have something to do with it. He almost killed someone's son
@@scrubthesurface Imagine information like a hose pipe with water flowing through it. The media is a big foot pressing down on the pipe allowing only a certain amount of water to pass. They control the narrative and therefore control what people think/believe. 90% of people believe the main stream media without question. It is very powerful.
Its Jamie Davies I live in England country your very very very interesting guy Peter Hyatt my mate and friend....
Why would you leave early without making sure your friends were OK and safe?
By saying that his phone was only on 1% is she trying to convey that her conversation with Jay was very short and therfore would not contain much information that would be of use?
Another point about the 1% phone charge . Given his lost in rural setting a phone would use a lot of power trying to establish a signal and even at 2 or 3% based on the health of the battery would quickly go dead upon initiation of a phone call, seconds rather than minutes. Did he contact the police did she?
The mother encouraged Jay to go on this holiday as she said so herself in the interview.
a normal mother would tho
Yeah but others say he needed persuading
@@sarahwynn6486you’d only need persuading if you were going to be doing something other than a simple holiday, like maybe drug dealing.
@@jesclifford88 Not every human being is the same, sometimes people are not keen to go on holidays for various reasons. It's not a black and white conclusion.
I cannot agree more with Peter with regard to his opinion on 'psychics'. I would go further and say these con artists should be prosecuted for preying on grieving and otherwise vulnerable people.
I personally think you need to take into consideration of slight language /dialect differences. I live not very far from where Jay and his family are from. The term 'Baby' for a child is very frequently used, regardless of the age of the person. For example I'm 41 and my 76 year old Mother still calls me her 'baby', as I'm her youngest child. As for the Go Fund Me post, we also need to take into consideration that Lucy is a 19 year old, she has been out partying, most probably very little sleep, or food and an excess of alcohol or possible other substances. She has found herself in a situation that nobody would want to be in, so her thought processing ability under the extreme stress and most possible guilt of thinking what if she didn't leave him, isn't going to be perfect. That is a huge undertaking for anyone, let alone a 19 year old, on what sounds like their first foreign holiday without any parents. As far as I am aware, Jay's mother has stated that the money raised so far is still being held for the time being and that so far they have funded the flights and accommodation themselves. However nobody knows how long this nightmare is going to last, plus then the costs or repatriation of the body if the worst has happened. These days, especially over here, Go Fund Me accounts are made for so many reasons, and very frequently. Personally I'm giving Lucy the benefit of the doubt, she is a 19 year old girl, going through absolute hell, on what should have been a holiday of a lifetime. She was most probably thinking of any way that she could help the family, and this was her way of doing it.
You are correct about local dialect. Term baby is used for the youngest child even when a pensioner in the north of England 😊
YOUR SPOT ON! Im 65 years old the youngest of 9 and all my siblings still say to each other "have you seen the baby lately?"😂
@@amandacarter7740 🤣🤣
You are being rather naive . Lucy definitely knows more .
I really think the go fund me page going up straight away caused a lot of suspicion in this case .Thats why people are judging this family. All i can say is God love them they must be utterly devastated. I just pray their son Jay is found ❤
Agree, Cathy
The gofindme and Lucy's extensive travelling are the key.
Go Fund Me - nothing is said about who or what that funding is for & she must be accountable with public money
It’s really strange case with not logic! This boy went with this two British guys to the other side of the beautiful island, to stay there 1 hour, not to recharge his phone, and high as a kite, went for walk into a Laurisilva forest, with changes of weather in the night, to minor 1 under cero with fogs, unbelievable !! This has to be something else! I’ve been in that area trekking, and you need a map and a local guide too!! If he’s there probably died of hipertermia, as he was dressed up to go to the beach, and that area is very humid and cold in the night! It’s quite scary forest in the night, and the logic thing is to returned over his feet’s to the roads!! I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY HE HASNT BEEN FOUNDED! That forest hasn’t got any animals or insects or sneaks that could kill you, the only thing is you need to be preparedto the heat what it’s n with fogs during the night!
'just gone viral' channel has significant evidence regarding this.
we are basically domesticated livestock.
The only known drug person is the man from the b&b, he runs a weed dispensary there i think which is owned by a uk rapper (forgot his name) who is a childhood friend of his (b&b guy) a quick google search shows that dispensary was broken into a couple months ago and filmed by the offenders and footage used in a music video, video is on youtube.
Jay and his friends have drugs charges on their criminal records for class As when they were all around 16, so around the same time as the machete attack. It’s also recently come to light from UK police representatives that drugs were involved, as in Jay directly chose to pump them into his system the night his life most likely ended… make of that what you will
Can we get your thoughts next on Brad‘s interview?
Peter serious question and for anyone else in law or policing do you think the police will be investigating her Lucy behind the scenes as the search is going on . Do you think there investigators will be looking at this statement in go fund me aswell ?
Yes, to both.
@@PeterHyatt thanks for the reply. I think this is what most people won’t realise that everything people think about what she’s said won’t be going unnoticed by police .
When she said she went home early ALONE surely the police have asked and where is home what time did you arrive home and checked cctv or with reception etc. it’s been 7 days surely by now if she was up to anything the police would have pulled her in and have they verified she was telling truth about going home early etc we just don’t know
@@PeterHyatt if I was a police officer I would be looking at her pattern of travel bank details looking in to how she affords all the travel she does getting her phone records etc etc they are more then likely doing the same. She might not be involved in him going missing but she’s definitely hiding something else about herself to not get in serious trouble over something totally unrelated
@@WarrickHuntshe peddles drugs according to the word on the streets 😅
@@WarrickHuntI believe her phone has clues as to what's happened.
As of her phoning 911 and not 112, that's sus AF also.
Maybe he is somewhere hiding and is embarrassed to come out after he caused so much aggravation.
My husband and i have been thinking of that possibility also, that he is hiding somewhere, and the story will develop as from when he makes an appearance again. ( Nobody can hide forever in Tenerife. It's an Island after all. Many have tried, it never works out in a finite space surrounded by a huge body of water. ) I gather that Jay is not the type to want to stay inside and live and "invisible" life either.
Does anybody know the exact time and date the go fund me was set up please
Do you think he might be alive and well and its a go fund me scam?
I don’t.
@@PeterHyatt Thank you for replying.
If she left early how did she know he left with 2 guys . Why would these guys stay so far away from where the rave was , one of them wouldn't be able to drink as they were driving, if she has explained he was lost in the mountains after going to a party how would she know where the accommodation was snd apparently she turned up there. How ?? ( party for 3 people!) the accommodation is owned by a man that has a dodgy history snd it's his wife that .. says.. she saw Jay leave and walk away . . Sorry for all the questions x
What happened to the autistic boy that walked out of his home supposedly? That story disappeared too fast.
Hasn't been found
Do not trust anyone when you are on holidays
You dont know anyone and then you bring trouble on yourself
Can you take a look at the Alisa lam case. Your analysis of this case would be interesting.
Alisa was in some kind of psychotic state. The whole Elisa Lam/Lam Elisa (tb thing going on in area, if I remember rightly) thing, though, is VERY weird! I think Pat Brown did a video on the case of Elisa.
The ticket only price for the NRG weekend was £309 that’s about €360…that’s about €120 per day! That’s a lot for a 19 year old (plus flight/accommodation/transfers/food/drink/taxi/misc!!!!! That’s a lot of money for that age group) would Lucy really not make the effort to see out the weekend?…and party on (sleep on the Plane home, or the next day) would she leave early, alone, because she was tired? Was it safe for her to leave alone? Why were none of these ‘friends’ looking out for each other?
Im sending you all the love and healing thoughts...You gave me hope during the pandemic by seeing through all of it. I hope i can give hope back to you. Lots of love, get well Peter❤❤❤
I would like you to take note of Jay's friend Brad who came up with a statement 11 days after his dissapearance.
He said he spoke to Jay on the phone.
Who spoke to Jay last,was it Lucy or Brad?
Yes, these are beneficial! I love watching them, and learning, and I want to take formal training!
1% left on battey phone, easier to text & 911 is for USA emergency not Spain