@zwan1886 yeah it's not something I intended to do, but realized I forgot after uploading. I don't think it would be worth taking the video down over it though as there are still some people who enjoyed it and are probably still using it. I'd rather eat the down votes and keep it up for them and just make sure I do better next time :)
I tried a similar build with Beastmaster, where you focus on the melee swing and grab the crow chaining node on the right of the Gathering Storms tree. Each chain can proc Aspect of the Crow, so you end up with 30-50 stacks constantly, and can stack attack speed with berserking from war cry and aspect of the shark. It's panned out pretty well for me so far, it has a ramp up on single target but goes ham after everything is stacked.
Thats actually really interesting, I didnt know about the chain interaction. Gives me thoughts for maybe other builds that could make use of this mechanic
I am running a very similar build and tested a lot. Here is what I found (sadly) 1) Storm crows die way too often so their buff isn't consistent enough. 2) I wanted to actually use gathering storm (not just the procs) but it felt veeery underwhelming (tried the castin variant) 3) As always druid would just be a better shaman. If you use tornado + maelstrom and have mana issues, you could just go swarmblade with the exact same setup and it would be 230% better
I agree for the first two points as I've made similar adoptions along the way, but funny enough even when spamming tornados non stop I have very few mana issues at all. It's likely I'll do am update to this later down the road though with more optimization!
Good gear and passives will be extremely important for survivability on these classes. I actually make alot of my changes in the 2.0 update video to help this and would recommend checking it out! Alternatively, consider joining the discord or finding me while I'm live on twitch and I'll help look through your character to see where we can improve!
@@MOTFGAMES I’m only level 20 and dying. At this point the gear doesn’t matter since you get gear along the way. It’s the mechanics and/or one unlocked issue that is the root cause.
@visionofgrey ah well I can see that until you get some good armor implicits soon. For now, I'd say try dedicating a skill slot on your bar to "eterras blessing" to help you get through the early game a little easier, without having to spec it at all.
Does storm bolt actually benefit from "of ice and snow" and "winter comes" nodes? The wording of the tooltip does not say storm bolt, only gathering storm.
It does, the game is a bit weird in the sense that ailments applied by a skill recieve MOST bennefits that a skill would recieve from its passive, so the storm bolts will also bennefit from the lightning pen on the bottom and the % Damage multi on concentrated storm
@@MOTFGAMESstorm bolt even scales with that node at the far left that gives flat crit per maelstrom stack, so that's actually a pretty solid option for crit capping storm bolt
Absolutely! Atm I'm leaning more into stacking frostbite, but I do think that this build could be played either way so long as you heavily focus on that@@Pizzastealingninja
I was doing the exact same build, only thing is literally 30 seconds ago I decided to swap from the crows to totem so I could use the totem passives while I'm leaving leap unleveled and instead been playing with tempest strike's tornado node and the passive where melee also spawns stormbolt as well as tempest cast spells and also restores mana for the stormbolt mana consumption node along with stacking more base spell damage
I've also reached a point where I've dropped storm crows. I do think they are immensely helpful while leveling, but get outpaced by the sheer amount of flat spell we get from attunement quickly. I've opted to swap to warcry for the 250% bonus cold damage it can give us, and dropped the melee attack for storm totem aswell for the same reason you mentioned above. There's a chance I'll post and update to this after I visit a few other builds I'm interested in playing.
@@MOTFGAMES Actually was having troubled thoughts about investing in storm totem for the movement speed or avalanche as another cold spell(not using the channel as I feel the tempest node isn't worth it). However I do like how warcry looks plus I think it has enough uptime for 6 stacks maelstrom without mael being slotted along with some stuff my tempest strike would benefit from. So I think I'll also shift to that for my last invested skill. Then I can drop skillbar maelstrom for it.
This build is why? Just play pure lightning and get rid of tornado for storm totem... also turning tempest strike into a totem skill and make it only cast thunder just spam that and run carved testiment to proc storm totem.
Simply put, because the damage (in my testing) is higher if you focus on stacking frostbite than just purely playing around Storm bolts. We're still making use of all the flat spell from our items but double dipping on a damaging dot than just stacking a resistance reduction. Also the 2nd part you're mentioning is essentially an entirely separate build that wouldn't share a single line with this, but is something I'm planning to explore down the line
I've done testing to make sure and yes, its not as impactful as when everything was doing lightning, but its still somewhere around a 20-25% total damage increase for now since most of my gear is buffing Elemental damage and not just cold. As the build moves further and establishes more of an identity of "Frostbite DOT", they'll likely need to be replaced but I'm not sure with what yet
I found a pair of boots called Mourningfrost. movement speed and armour. 40% freeze rate multip, 11% increased movespeed, +1 cold dmg to atks and spells per point of dex could you turn this into a dex build or thats just awful lol.
I dont think it's to helpful. You could emulate that with stacking attunement since it also gives + 1 to spell damage for this build on storm bolts but also scales our other abilities. I'd recommend boots that give more defensive attributes than mourning frost.
I hope you do a follow up with some gameplay footage soon! I'm excited to play a gathering storm/tornado shaman, but shamans are yet to see some significative buffs, and we don't have much footage of LE shaman I think i'll end up trying lightning bug, because shaman still sucks :(
Hi! Like the pinned comment says, it wasn't intentional. All my other guides have gameplay, and I'll be doing a mid game update for this one in the next day or two with plenty of ganeplay on it if you wanna come back and see it then!
I came wanting to see some actual combat footage, to see if that build was something I felt like I would have fun trying. Your guide is missing one of the most crucial parts. Like a dating site where pictures wouldn't be allowed.
Sorry to hear that you don't like the build! I don't think I agree on the level 60 part though as I'm well into corrupteds at this point and still clearing with no issues level100+ mobs
I can understand not liking a creator. He did do a video on this concept a few days ago and I felt it'd be rude to not atleast mention it before putting my own spins on the idea. Hope you enjoy the launch!
(edit) ua-cam.com/video/SbTbWECD-DI/v-deo.html
video is pointless without gameplay footage though.
@zwan1886 yeah it's not something I intended to do, but realized I forgot after uploading. I don't think it would be worth taking the video down over it though as there are still some people who enjoyed it and are probably still using it. I'd rather eat the down votes and keep it up for them and just make sure I do better next time :)
Saying that only so the rest of us would not have best node in tree...
I tried a similar build with Beastmaster, where you focus on the melee swing and grab the crow chaining node on the right of the Gathering Storms tree. Each chain can proc Aspect of the Crow, so you end up with 30-50 stacks constantly, and can stack attack speed with berserking from war cry and aspect of the shark. It's panned out pretty well for me so far, it has a ramp up on single target but goes ham after everything is stacked.
Thats actually really interesting, I didnt know about the chain interaction. Gives me thoughts for maybe other builds that could make use of this mechanic
Do you have a link to your build? I was trying to do a Beastmaster thing on my own but I'm a bit unsure of how it'll pan out.
Currently doing the same thing with Aspect of the Crow, but still staying Shaman. No idea what I'm doing. Just winging it.
does frostbringer in gathering storm change storm bolts casted by all sources to cold, or just storm bolts from gathering storm?
I am running a very similar build and tested a lot. Here is what I found (sadly)
1) Storm crows die way too often so their buff isn't consistent enough.
2) I wanted to actually use gathering storm (not just the procs) but it felt veeery underwhelming (tried the castin variant)
3) As always druid would just be a better shaman. If you use tornado + maelstrom and have mana issues, you could just go swarmblade with the exact same setup and it would be 230% better
I agree for the first two points as I've made similar adoptions along the way, but funny enough even when spamming tornados non stop I have very few mana issues at all. It's likely I'll do am update to this later down the road though with more optimization!
I’ve tried a couple of builds with Shaman but all of them, I am so squishy, which is opposite of the nature of this class. What am I doing wrong?
Good gear and passives will be extremely important for survivability on these classes. I actually make alot of my changes in the 2.0 update video to help this and would recommend checking it out! Alternatively, consider joining the discord or finding me while I'm live on twitch and I'll help look through your character to see where we can improve!
@@MOTFGAMES I’m only level 20 and dying. At this point the gear doesn’t matter since you get gear along the way. It’s the mechanics and/or one unlocked issue that is the root cause.
@visionofgrey ah well I can see that until you get some good armor implicits soon. For now, I'd say try dedicating a skill slot on your bar to "eterras blessing" to help you get through the early game a little easier, without having to spec it at all.
@@MOTFGAMES thank you for the advice.
Does storm bolt actually benefit from "of ice and snow" and "winter comes" nodes? The wording of the tooltip does not say storm bolt, only gathering storm.
Great video by the way!
It does, the game is a bit weird in the sense that ailments applied by a skill recieve MOST bennefits that a skill would recieve from its passive, so the storm bolts will also bennefit from the lightning pen on the bottom and the % Damage multi on concentrated storm
@@MOTFGAMESstorm bolt even scales with that node at the far left that gives flat crit per maelstrom stack, so that's actually a pretty solid option for crit capping storm bolt
Absolutely! Atm I'm leaning more into stacking frostbite, but I do think that this build could be played either way so long as you heavily focus on that@@Pizzastealingninja
11:20 you can't put spell slinger on a wand unfortunately.
Yeah was def a bit of misspeak on my part, but having the inherent -3 on spell cast is already a nice help
I was doing the exact same build, only thing is literally 30 seconds ago I decided to swap from the crows to totem so I could use the totem passives while I'm leaving leap unleveled and instead been playing with tempest strike's tornado node and the passive where melee also spawns stormbolt as well as tempest cast spells and also restores mana for the stormbolt mana consumption node along with stacking more base spell damage
I've also reached a point where I've dropped storm crows. I do think they are immensely helpful while leveling, but get outpaced by the sheer amount of flat spell we get from attunement quickly. I've opted to swap to warcry for the 250% bonus cold damage it can give us, and dropped the melee attack for storm totem aswell for the same reason you mentioned above. There's a chance I'll post and update to this after I visit a few other builds I'm interested in playing.
@@MOTFGAMES Actually was having troubled thoughts about investing in storm totem for the movement speed or avalanche as another cold spell(not using the channel as I feel the tempest node isn't worth it). However I do like how warcry looks plus I think it has enough uptime for 6 stacks maelstrom without mael being slotted along with some stuff my tempest strike would benefit from.
So I think I'll also shift to that for my last invested skill. Then I can drop skillbar maelstrom for it.
This build is why? Just play pure lightning and get rid of tornado for storm totem... also turning tempest strike into a totem skill and make it only cast thunder just spam that and run carved testiment to proc storm totem.
Wut skill would you swap for tempest strike specialization?
Simply put, because the damage (in my testing) is higher if you focus on stacking frostbite than just purely playing around Storm bolts. We're still making use of all the flat spell from our items but double dipping on a damaging dot than just stacking a resistance reduction. Also the 2nd part you're mentioning is essentially an entirely separate build that wouldn't share a single line with this, but is something I'm planning to explore down the line
@@Matenkai I would drop crows for tempest strike since armor shred can come from other sources like weapons, neck, gloves...
@@MOTFGAMESinteresting I look forward to seeing what you cook up.
Excellent video! I just need some gameplay. You dont need to remake the video, just add an updated video with changes and gameplay hehe
Probably will soon, looking for a few upgrades first that push the build a bit farther first!
Would Aspect of the Crow and Wisdom of the Storm even do anything since everything is converted to cold damage?
I've done testing to make sure and yes, its not as impactful as when everything was doing lightning, but its still somewhere around a 20-25% total damage increase for now since most of my gear is buffing Elemental damage and not just cold. As the build moves further and establishes more of an identity of "Frostbite DOT", they'll likely need to be replaced but I'm not sure with what yet
@@MOTFGAMESOk, so it's a case of bad wording on the node since it is in fact changed to increase cold damage instead?
I found a pair of boots called Mourningfrost. movement speed and armour. 40% freeze rate multip, 11% increased movespeed, +1 cold dmg to atks and spells per point of dex could you turn this into a dex build or thats just awful lol.
I dont think it's to helpful. You could emulate that with stacking attunement since it also gives + 1 to spell damage for this build on storm bolts but also scales our other abilities. I'd recommend boots that give more defensive attributes than mourning frost.
great idea, love cold build:) sadly it looks like some passives not working atm.
And the crows bug somewhat. Sometimes they don't appear.
I hope you do a follow up with some gameplay footage soon! I'm excited to play a gathering storm/tornado shaman, but shamans are yet to see some significative buffs, and we don't have much footage of LE shaman
I think i'll end up trying lightning bug, because shaman still sucks :(
Just wanted to follow up on this because it has been awhile, but I did post a follow up build!
@@MOTFGAMESthank you so much for the update! That's exactly what I wanted to see.
Why do people post build guides with no game play...?
Hi! Like the pinned comment says, it wasn't intentional. All my other guides have gameplay, and I'll be doing a mid game update for this one in the next day or two with plenty of ganeplay on it if you wanna come back and see it then!
I came wanting to see some actual combat footage, to see if that build was something I felt like I would have fun trying. Your guide is missing one of the most crucial parts. Like a dating site where pictures wouldn't be allowed.
I agree! Normally some is included but I was rushing through this one and forgot it. Thanks for the feedback
no game play bad build
Yeah dude.. show it at least.
this is suck build best dps maybe max 60lvl
Sorry to hear that you don't like the build! I don't think I agree on the level 60 part though as I'm well into corrupteds at this point and still clearing with no issues level100+ mobs
@@MOTFGAMES pls movies for end game you build. Thx
@fujiwargaming4709 I'm actually planing to do an update to this either tomorrow or the next day! So hopefully I'll wrap it up soon :)
anything with dreadful in it is total garbage ill pass
I can understand not liking a creator. He did do a video on this concept a few days ago and I felt it'd be rude to not atleast mention it before putting my own spins on the idea. Hope you enjoy the launch!
of course :) i hope you do as well man@@MOTFGAMES