He Couldn't Stop Insulting Destiny In Frustrating Israel Debate
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Classic pro Hamas supporter. All insults, no substance. They think this is persuasive to normies lol.
I love when they won't condemn Hamas but then will also deny that Gazans mostly support Hamas. Like if you won't condemn them why would it be wrong for Gazans to like them?
I bet if is to a lot of them.
If he could have used the finklewave, he would have been more effective.
Ikr dude is on finkelstein’s level
even (some of ) the pro pali guys were telling him that he came a little unhinged and should try to use less aggressive tactics lol
Remember when Destiny mentioned how the people who rant the most about debatebro tactics are those who are it's most prolific users? This was it. Holy frick this is it
Honestly, it was so confusing what $10,000 bet he wanted. Like on what concrete terms could they come to to prove who was right and wrong. He would just pull a "well technically" on any proof destiny presents, which undermines the bet. Bets are good to spot grifts and people that do not actually believe what they say like with conspiracy theories or political elections. If there are no concrete terms to determine who is right and wrong, they are worthless.
Erm what the frick
Holy frick
What the frick, it's heckin' crazy!
💯
"Dude, you're totally wrong!"
"Okay can you please show me the quote in this document showing that I'm wrong?"
"..... DUDE OMG! YOU'RE SUCH A SOCIOPATH!!!"
😂😂😂😂
Let's not talk abstractions lol
"MR MINCARELLI, PLEASE STOP DISPLAYING YOU IMBECILITY" type energy
There’s nothing that pisses these people off more than Destiny being calm lmao. They cannot handle it when he is casual and cavalier about a debate.
I honestly dont know how he does it, tho. The snarky attitude that other dude has annoys me so freaking much that I would very likely get mad really, really fast. Especially when its paired with zero actual arguments and him not even answering a single question or bringing a single factual argument.
@@fabiusque4266 Same. He can probably see the optics of the debate from an external pov and his internal monologue is going, “Lmao. This dude is cooked.”
I wish Destiny would do it more often. I feel like he's attached to his existing brand as someone who can go hard(Nebraska Steve), even though he is fully capable of being calm and cordial, while being just as brutal. When the facts agree with you, being calm and polite will just make them hit harder.
@@WanderTheNomad The sad part is that usually most people watching don't have enough of either engagement with the material or general intelligence to parse what is actually happening in exchanges like this. Here, they just hear snarky guy getting exasperated at Destiny's clear implied incompetence and don't recognize that exasperation for the empty bluster it is, while on the other side if all you can read is surface level deep Destiny comes across as timid and unsure of himself. So, unfortunately, even though he wins this exchange handedly and hilariously, too many people that tune in aren't going to see it that way. That's why I believe he thinks (and I agree) that he has to go Nebraska Steve mode and explicitly throw it in these idiots' faces point by excruciating fucking point how stupid they are for people see the depths of their ignorance and how bankrupt their rhetoric is.
at what point of the vid is he calm?
How do these people exist? How is this guy so confident with zero evidence? I don't understand.
Asking myself this question since month’s. This conflict made me realize how crazy this world is and it made me realize why something like nazigermany back then worked.
@@gastarbeiter8384 watching the kids who thought history doesn’t matter becoming borderline Nazis is terrifying.
It's the emotional attachment to the political stance, you'd be surprised how much of politics and morality is just emotions to most people
It's easier to judge than to think.
That's what's happening.
@@gastarbeiter8384it's not craziness, it's how emotional rethoric and polítics work, people are selectively logical based on their emotional attachments to political movements/beliefs
I think this is probably one of the worst showings ever from someone Destiny has spoke to. He just immediately and clearly got called out on every single bad faith argument he made, which was all of them, lol.
Immediately falls to calling destiny a debate bro when he wanted to actually look at the report the guy was citing. Like, no context matters, and you should be ok with anyone sourcing your quotes if you are not quote mining and lying about its context.
Wait so in order to continue the conversation you would have to concede to his opinion that it’s ok to shoot a 14 year old for damage to a fence. This is obviously the IDF perspective, but anyone with a heart can clearly say no that’s not cool. US border patrol has never and will never shoot at someone who is damaging a portion of our fence
@@herbhealsus It is very convenient to think like this when you live in the USA without enemies who are committed to your destruction.
@@herbhealsus I wish they would
So is that really an outlandish belief for Americans to have? I’m of the opinion that both sides refuse to get along. I can’t point the finger saying anyone is at fault. This is just my opinion but both sides have equal amount of hate. However I am American am I am privileged enough t to say it’s not cool to shoot people over a fence. It’s not cool to shoot little children or peaceful protestors. Nothing you can say will convince me otherwise
Destiny ignoring the ad hominine's and just talking him through why he's wrong was such a great strategy. The guy looks unhinged and clearly just out to get Destiny.
what this guy wanted to say the whole time , " Destiny, can you please quit reading legal documents and realize ppl are being mean to brown people"
He answered zero questions, just gave talking points.
"What about the 5 year old picking flowers carrying her baby sister on her back that got shot by a sniper? There are records that say that the IDF soldier responsible yelled 'double headshot!' when he did so"
Hyperbole of course but I love how he went down the exact same list he went over with loner, starting with the football player.
"I'm just using data and facts", he says. Meanwhile his entire "factual support" for why soldiers shouldn't be allowed to shoot a girl for breaking through a border fence is just pure emotions. The guy simply doesn't understand the real world. He frame of reference is a Disney bubble.
"Lets not get stuck in the weeds, I've got more talking points to gishgallop you with, so stfu and let me stand on your soapbox"
Him: "Well what about this 14 year old?!?"
Destiny: "Ok what about the 14 year old?"
Him: "woah I don't want to talk about this 14 year old why are you detailing the conversation?"
It's funny watching these people with no actual information come at Destiny and get fried. Destiny is like the human version of a bug zapper light. Still waiting for Hasan to work up the courage and catch some volts!
@2:30 ROFL Hamasguy immediately regreted giving Tiny a source document. He should have read it first to make sure it said what he thought it said.
No chance
destiny lost this 100% were we listening to the same debate destiny clearly lost in
@@wingofshui’m sure 😂
Preferably with Piers Morgan in the background cackling away.
Debate Poverty not perverty kids
All time lows lmao
Noooo brooooo you dont understand the jihadist was a 14 year old giiiiirlllllll
@@Aryzo Nope,it goes by “significant events”in Islamophilia,she wuz 2.1 exit,1 entry..👀
nice pfp bro
@@dirge2590 “Satan 2”H.R. Giger..Necronomicon..cheers 🤘🏻
“OMG you expect me to provide evidence after I just criticized you for your lack of evidence that you provided in full?!”
Unhinged people gonna be unhinged
I sometimes truly struggle to watch these because the second hand embarrassment I get from someone being unable to source or quote anything they're claiming is overwhelming.
Please don't think I am defending the idiot arguing with Destiny in this video but I believe it should be "normal" for people to postulate their independent hypotheses. Not every thought or claim has to lead to a source.
Independent, original thought is a thing.
@@EnderPearlRs This is true, but if you are doing this you should also clearly state that you are making your own postulation up. You can't say that a report says something and then not want to cite anything in the report. That is just falsely claiming things.
Also when directly asked "What part of my statement was an abstraction?", one should not put a mocking baby voice on and then run away from the topic as soon as they know they are wrong.
These people should be mocked, not because of not being able to cite things, but because they do it with such a grandstanding, aristocratic, deceitful manner. It is especially stupid because they try to virtue signal that they are the opposite of what they display.
@@eyesee5413 I completely agree
I've spoken to people like this. They don't understand anything and refuse to engage the actual point
Honestly feel like these guys just can’t imagine they are wrong or imagine a scenario they can only parrot the same lines they were told and if you take them off script with a question they can’t respond to they break and start running to the next point, like some faulty code that ran into an error
Definition of bad faith
I know some from both sides. I think it's actually narcissism. They literally can't steer away from their thought process.
I think it's because they are driven by emotion.
people just dont seem to care whether it's even true or not at this point they just yap on without any source
Holy shit this guy is absolutely ridiculous. Couldn’t even get through a single point.
Is this the "PHD" guy Destiny debated 4-5 months ago who accused Destiny of being too emotional and really buying into the Israeli propoganda? Kind of sounds like him.
Think this is the guy with 2 masters degrees possibly. The $10000 bet makes it seem like him.
I think so
The date on Destiny's computer says 5/8/2024. So a livestream on that day, I guess
@@AGN_30 ye was a lonerbox debate like 2 days ago, D steped in for 10 \15 mins
@@AGN_30 It's at 6:49:30 ua-cam.com/video/wGuf8sVyqNA/v-deo.html it was a short lonerbox debate
He’s quit knowledgeable but doesn’t have critical thinking skills 💀
Destiny:”yea he’s good at memorizing things”
Just cooking him right to his face like he’s not there 😭
I know that type. He's not mad at injustice, he's just mad he's losing.
Lil bro thought the word abstraction would turn him into a debate god.
Reminds me of people I've had debates/discussions with online. Seriously, some people just think emotionally and then try to act like they are being rational when they are really being anything but.
True, it seemed like he had an emotion about the conflict but just couldn't rationalize it, then got mad cuz he couldn't rationalize it
Was this the guy who said he’d never talk to Destiny after he watched 30-secs of the Finkelstein debate? He certainly uses Norm’s ad hom tactics.
Who is this guy even?
@@adrenalice7827 I think he was a guest on some podcast that talked about the finkelstein debate. Don’t remember which video it’s in. I’m not familiar with him.
Norman Finklestein and Mouin Rabbani fried Benny and Mr borelli. What ad homs did finklestein actually commit?
I hate being early. Cant read any comments while I eat.
You can read this comment, ur welcome.
@@factjuniorroll no read mine, this guys comment is dumb
read mine read mine 😀
read this comment sexy time with a bear
@@damienostler4531I can’t decide 😥
9:50 new army tactic, everyone dress up as 14 y/o girl and then you have full immunity to do whatever you want in a war as long as you dont directly shoot at someone!
Destiny being calm, reasonable, and logical seems to REALLY trigger people. It's so fucking hilarious whenever someone loses their shit because of it.
I wish Destiny would do it more often. I feel like he's attached to his existing brand as someone who can go hard(Nebraska Steve), even though he is fully capable of being calm and cordial, while being just as brutal. When the facts agree with you, being calm and polite will just make them hit harder.
@@WanderTheNomad the facts are NOT on his side thoe
@@wingofshu What was he wrong about?
"low empathy" is such a self-report when these people can't help but cackle when people in their out-group get humiliated, abused, or even killed.
This is definitely a poorly executed troll. I refuse to believe someone acts like this unintentionally.
It’s crazy listening to someone that thinks they are so superior to the person they are talking too be so dumb
unironically narcissism, combined with a lifetime of impotent rage, this is why alot of losers become Prog-Lefties, they need an outlet for their impotent rage, and for it to be considered a moral good.
This might be the most bad faith individual Destiny has debated in recent memory.
Lonerbox was right at the end.
It doesn't matter how many factoids you know if you can't properly evaluate the whole picture.
It's not even about accurately evaluating something. You can at least make an attempt. Maybe you come up with a wrong conclusion. This is far worse. This not even attempting to use any reason. There is no willingness to understand. It's a conscious choice to be a moron.
"Okay, I'll read the direct quote" LMFAO
This reminds me of someone I debated on a video about the arrests made at UCSD.
He made up things like "an encampment is not against the law" and "only State laws apply on UC campuses". I literally quoted all the specific laws and policies that proved him wrong, and he called me a MAGA, fascist incel.
Then he completely misrepresented a local law he swore was on the books and I quoted the actual law, explained how he completely butchered it, and gave him the month/year it was repealed.
He stood his ground and called me names and a liar.
These types of people have absolutely zero integrity.
Really sad that some people have their opinion set, then look for faulty evidence to justify it, and then do mental gymnastics after they're proven wrong.
Sorry you had to deal with that person
@70othl3ss4 it's honestly baffling. It's undeniable they are wrong, but they smugly proclaim victory. I couldn't hack it as a debater in these spaces. Not for lack of ability, the frustration of beating my head against a stone wall would destroy my mental health.
Thats not hasan piker thats pasan hiker
I call him hamas piker
Not Hasanabi, that's Hamasanabi
Maybe it would be tricky to find a quote by just randomly reading different sections, but you could just ctrl f and look for specific uses of words to match what you are looking for
My thoughts exactly
Wow. That guy was an ad hominem and exasperated exclamation spitting machine! Sorry there bro those strats have been nerfed and Destiny is a master at calling them out in real time - which is exactly what happened.
Guy basically volunteered for tribute, like oh can I be next to provide Destiny with more clips of him sounding reasonable and logical opposite some blithering maniac? I CAN be next? AWESOME!
Bless his stupid stupid heart :)
One of the useful idiots
Groyper argument: "😂😂😂😂"
Hamas-defender argument: "You're a monster!"
It's a good time to be a liberal, boys.
Funny thing is if Hasan does a reaction to this video he's gonna frame it in a completely different way and all his followers are going to sh!t on Destiny. It's insanity.
I can hear this guy sweating
Civilians can lose their civilian status by becoming parties to arm conflict. Apparently being a 14 year old girl nullifies this 😂
that comment at the end: "i think he's knowledgeable but has no critical thinking skills".
ay caramba
This was like a shark devouring a mentally handicapped Seaturtle. This was brutal. Destiny ate this guy alive😂
I need a super cut with "why are you running?" for this... so many times running away from the questions
the way destiny's sticks on a point is a good tactic in terms on rhetoric. taking accountability at a point
This was painful to watch. This guy wants to make some abstract moral argument like "Killing girls is never ok, obviously" (even though he hates abstractions) and then when challenged on legal codes and ethical guidelines he just goes "These are irrelevant things you're trying to bring up" because people aren't willing to buy into the most morally simplistic view of the situation.
Thank you
This was refreshingly deranged
Dudes brain is broken
I don't think he had a brain to begin with.
is there a longer version of this discussion? What led up to it?
Please share the original stream
“It clearly happened.”
The clear evidence is not found.
According to these people, if a bunch of invaders show up at your border and drop their weapons but say they are going to come in and it may or may not end up badly later, you just have to allow them to invade
Is there a full upload
6:49:30 ua-cam.com/video/wGuf8sVyqNA/v-deo.html it was a short lonerbox debate
@@XxWargrinderxX awesome thanks
@@XxWargrinderxX short lonerbox debate hahahaha I like how you said that. Thanks for the link
”Are you ok?” Clearly not lol
Wow, that guy got bodied so hard. Destiny should bring him back for the laughs
Lil Finkelstein doesn’t have the brain cells to light a single litebrite
True
Honestly surprised Destiny was able to get time to speak with the smartest Hamas supporter.
Really wish he would keep his abstractions to a minimum and discuss the data though...
Does any one have the link ti this stream? I wabba watch this full debate
where can I watch the full thing
This poor guy got so triggered so fast he couldn’t do anything.
is there a full debate of this?
He's so focused on "14 year old girl" that all logic went out the window. I'm glad law isnt based on "this makes me feel icky"
It’s hilarious he accuses Destiny of not reading despite him quoting off memory from this huge document, yet in response this guy quotes page 1.
is the video for this not out yet?
The dude destiny debated is ironically a sociopath
"can you back that up?"
"you think its okay to delete children and commit war crimes!!!!!!????"
The pivot 💀
People have forgotten what war is.
Lmao as soon as he gets put on the spot he just tries to move to another point lmao
*literally reads from the report*
“No you’re wrong they meant x”
*literally reads from the report again*
“Destiny you don’t read the actual material”
LIL BRO IS GETTING HIS ASS SCHOOLED, i love this new stage of my destiny cancer, holding people to their words, showing they just spew loads of bullshit to overload your emotions
why even give them the time of the day? what a waste of time haha
Eh, his fans have to see how much of a dickhead he is. Probably.
LMAO the ending, just talking shit about the dude with Lonerbox with him still in the call as if he's not there.
Why do you never link the actual video
Respect Destiny. That guy was total a bad faith actor.
On one of his streams 2 weeks ago Destiny said he unbanned everyone on youtube except like 3 people.... 2.5 years ago i was banned for reason unknown, was a teir 1 sub, have reached out on both emails, reddit, instagram, twitter, last night on destiny, superchated bridges... is it possible he didnt unban anyone? Or am I just so unsafe to have in his main channel but fine on every other channel and every platform listed above?
They are not sending their best. Or are they?
Link to the full video?
Is there a full upload?
6:49:30 ua-cam.com/video/wGuf8sVyqNA/v-deo.html it was a short lonerbox debate
Where's the full VOD of this? Can't find anything. Edit: nvm found it thanks to @XxWargrinderxX 6:49:30 ua-cam.com/video/wGuf8sVyqNA/v-deo.html
this guy is supposed to be a smart pro palestine supporter or something? god these guys are lost
These people behave like children. Rude children.
There are 2 types of people. People who will see evidence and then say that they were wrong, or people that will see evidence and then get stressed out, change the subject, insult or simply run away.
What's the name of the guy Destiny is talking to? So I can disregard anything it says if I ever see him online anywhere.
LMAO this dude.....spends the whole time using child voices claiming "im not going to get distracted",when asked normal easily answerable questions, but then spends 5 minutes answering 5 hypothetical questions about a dude with wire cutters who never existed
Anybody know who this caller is?
When was this from?
What video is this from?
What stream was this from?
6:49:30 ua-cam.com/video/wGuf8sVyqNA/v-deo.html it was a short lonerbox debate
@@XxWargrinderxX thanks
Tiny's patience is admirable...
Did this debate take place after Destiny’s talk with Dr. K? Sounds like this guy was using things from that talk to insult him
omg destiny, how dare you provide evidence. Stop using these debate bro tactic of providing evidence because I don't have any. My news comes from twitter. I must say I am too an on the ground twitter journalist
Yo here early
Wow, just wow
Pain
Where is the full vid
6:49:30 ua-cam.com/video/wGuf8sVyqNA/v-deo.html it was a short lonerbox debate
@@XxWargrinderxX thanks so much!
To think that its up to debate while children are dying, shows intellectual failure
What clip is this from?
That was Debate Poetry
This kid doesnt understand Principle of Distinction has no say when ROE are involved.
Who is this guy? Anyone have the link to the full debate ?
6:49:30 ua-cam.com/video/wGuf8sVyqNA/v-deo.html it was a short lonerbox debate
You can’t argue with people who literally change the meaning of words. Trying to argue that someone violently trying to breach a secure border is a peaceful form of protest.