Full Carbon Fiber Surfboard | Hot Coat | Sanding | Finishes | PART 4 Time-Lapse | Using Vacuum Bag!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- I am very excited about this new project, this is the first time I am building a full carbon surfboard using the vacuum bag technique.
This board should be super light, strong, responsive, and durable but also very expensive, when I am done building this board I will let you know about the costs and the pros and cons.
This is a performance shortboard, 6'2 X 20" X 2 5/8" with 3LB core, the next one will be a 2LB core that will be even lighter.
In this video, I sanded the laps and prepared the board for the hot coat. it turned out great and the deck got a great vacuum so the results were great.
The hot coat went smooth as well, sanding was real easy as the surface was so smooth and almost no bumps and lumps.
I ended up using a matt clear coat because it has a more professional look and I love it! the board ended up at 2.6KG - amazing!
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Welcome to my channel
My name is Koby and I am a surfboard shaper.
For the last 7 years, I shape and build surfboards in my small workshop and now I will expand into more great projects using an Epoxy resin such as River tables, woodworking, and more. I will upload surfboard building tutorials, shaping tools reviews, and great tips about working with epoxy resin art.
All my boards are made from EPS and epoxy resin and I like to go crazy with my resin art! I will do swirls using tints and pigments, cloth inlays, weird shapes, and more.
I can talk about surfboards all day, so feel free to ask me any questions you may have and I will do my very best to answer them in the best way possible
What a mission, great to get jobs like this done and learn so much in the process. The learning curve from bottom side to deck was obvious, imagine after doing 5 of them! Well done man!
Thanks, and yes - today they are 10 times better 😎
Looks great, I'd love a board just like that. If you don't mind, a few of points: I noticed a slight 'flouring' of the epoxy on the finish coat, so if you can get it, use a crystal epoxy hardener like the West 207 hardener in conjunction with their 105 resin, this gives a very clear finish. There were also issues with the edges of the peel-ply. A borrowed second set of hands might be the solution to get it to lay perfectly flat in one go. And finally, working with epoxy, especially over time will damage your health unless you use really good protection. I'm not sure if that mask you use is good enough. Look into a 3M 6503QL mask with A2 Organic vapor filters as well as P3 particulate filters over them. That should keep you going for longer :) Edit: I see in your most recent video you have one of those masks up on the wall ;)
In Israel we only have one type of epoxy- the qwik kick which is great!
In the next few carbon boards i did much better job 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
The tan/orange kick pad👌
Nice build
Thanks mate!
Awesome work. Happy that the vacuum process worked the first time for you!
Me too LOL, wasn’t easy but it worked! 🤙🏼
Well done what a work of art. Really enjoyed watching it’s construction
Thank you very much! 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Wow Great result and great series of making of videos.
PS please stay safe using all these toxic material!
Thanks 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Looks fantastic man. didnt know carbon was such a process, You aced it!!
Thanks, if you watch the next videos you can it doesn’t has to be 🤙🏼
Awesome work brother! Probably sounds weird because I'm working on car parts not surfboards but I can't tell you how inspired I am now, definitely stumbled across these videos at the perfect time. Can't wait to get to work. Thank you
Great! Car parts made of carbon sounds cool 😎
Great job I watched start to finish very inspiring and you did an amazing job.I hope it surfed as good as it looks.
Thanks! Yes it is, it is very responsive and fast, surprisingly easy to surf 🤙🏼
Came out beautiful! I need to find some carbon fibre for a board now :)
Good luck!
Wery nice, well done!
Thanks!
Epic bro! That looks amazing! Do you have to sand before you do the epoxy hot coat or just hot coat straight over?
@@TaranakiFrother-oy2dx only sand the overlaps and any imperfections 🤙🏼
Magnifique= amazing work
Thanks! 🤙🏼
Looks pretty good.…🤙
Thanks 🤙🏼
I would love to see you surf it and tell us how it feels.
Hopefully soon i will have video 🙌🏽 i can tell you it is amazing!
nice one🤙
sea you Around🌊
Thanks mate!
Look amazing would have liked to seen how well it Glides through the water and how it performs all around
It is the best board i have made or owned, i will make video with highlights 🙌🏽
Sweet!
Thanks!
Fab
I've made kiteboards using vac
Never thought about a carbon surfboard
What does it ride like
Like a dream, super responsive, great for small medium waves 🤙🏼
good job braderr..
Thanks ✌
Hey man looks like you nailed it ! I been wanting to try vacuum bagging a carbon board for a long time . What pump do you think I should get I’m ready to dive in !
Not really sure to be honest 😱 i used old one that is used for air conditioning 😁
Wow. A lot of work for carbon fibre. And you can see every bit of imperfection in the end finish. Good for first time, but may take you a few iterations to get a complete perfect finish with smooth color finish.
It it really worth it after you take into consideration the effort and additional cost of materials?
How much weight are you saving?
How much more in materials?
And the most important, how does it ride compared with same board in normal glass + epoxy?
Great video.
100% worth it
Additional cost is X2 normal board
Weight saved- 30%
Small medium waves - this thing is unbelievable... so fast, it gives a unique felling under your feet, the lack of flexibility allowing you to manipulate the board... just great 🤙🏼
Excellent work! Would you do it again? CF board ...
If i would do it again I wouldn’t use the vacuum pump unless it is a very good and powerful one, I recommend everyone to use carbon, it is an amazing material 🤙🏼 even if it only on one side of the board (witch is cool as well)
Thanks for sharing 🙌🏾 Can you tell what's the correct pressure for the vacuum? I'm about to do my first vacuum board in brazil but it's so hard to find the materials, bags, that fabric that absorb the excess of resin etc. Could you make a video explaining it? 😁
100% I have planned one but more important- i will do a new full carbon with NO vacuum to see if the difference is big, will be interesting 🤙🏼
What was your glass schedule on the deck? Did you do a layer of 4oz s cloth, then carbon, then another layer of s cloth?
@@jasonandre just 4oz fibreglass and the carbon on top (200gr) all together same time
All I want to know is what manufacturers in Australia are doing this? Id definitely pay the extra for a longer lasting carbon copy of my favourite shapes.
Not sure to be honest, but i am sure you can order “Dark Arts” boards in AU
Sanding carbon without gloves...
Bet that was fun for the next week.
🤦🏻♂️ true
I bought the new Mirka sander with vacuum so now it’s all w🙌🏽
Very nice. Carbon fibre is not easy to work with but you nailed it. The spray at the end is smart especially on epoxy as it's very difficult to polish - do you find that it is a durable layer (acrylic spray?) or it chips off easily?
IT is NOT very durable, i am now getting a new one, much more durable and industrial 2 parts clear coat witch is water based. should provide durabbility and more profitional look.
@@kobymaymonsurfboards7320 can you share the brand? Is it water based acrylic spray?
@@foamhacker6396 What you see in this video is X2 brand. when I get the new brand I will post a video about it
@@foamhacker6396 I think not water-based.. actually never checked LOL - But I will
Great work! Could you tell me your sanding process after the hot coat ? Something like 80- 120 then wet with 240 400 800? Thanks
Yes, but - 240 is NOT wet, 400 wet and it is not a must! Because i use the matte clean spray so there is no point going all the way to 800 or 1200. If you are going to do a gloss coat and no spray but natural shine then yes, all the way to 1500 wet 🙌🏽🏄🏻♂️
Amazing board! How do you measure the volume?
I am planning every board with my Shape3D program on the computer so i have a rough idea- that been said it is not really important with these kind of boards… this is a 45L + - 🤙🏼
how did you deal with any wrinkling of the carbon on the rail, due to the vacbag bunching up? i am building 3 at the same time now, and all three have some of this wrinkling. it makes the hotcoat and sanding on the rail very hard.
I was working them with my hands when it wrapped the rails, also when laying the breather cloth I invested more time in it. My vacuum wasn’t so strong so maybe this is why 🤙🏼
Nice looking board but...... I wouldn't want to surf it at any cold water spots if you know what I mean?
Not sure I understand 🤣
@@kobymaymonsurfboards7320 Black like a seal. Shark bait.
What did you spray on it? Why is there a Blue haze? Is The carbon just enhancing the Blue dye in the resin?
This spray is matt clear coat, the blue haze is due to the carbon and epoxy under the lights, this is because i use a very good epoxy with UV (resin research).
איך אתה משייף את הגלשן כך שהוא לא מאבד יותר מידיי קונטורות של הבלאנק? לדוגמה צ'אנלים או קונקביים עדינים. כשאני מתקן גלשנים זה ממש קשה לשמור על צורת הרייל או לשמול על קונקייב V
נתחיל בזה שהבלנק צריך להיות איכותי ובצפיפות הנכונה - ואז זה דורש שימוש ברשת שיוף מתאימה ובלחץ הנכון - אני לא חושב שאפשר להסביר כאן אבל ניתן לראות בסרטונים שלי כיצד אני עובד על הבלנק. מעבר להכל - מיומנות - בניתי כבר המון גלשנים ועם כל אחד זה הופך להיות קל יותר ומדויק ויתר... צריך לשייף כמה שיותר! :)
unbreakable?
Not unbelievable- but much much stronger, I would also say 90% less dents 🤙🏼
Do you add anything to epoxy resin when doing hot coat to improve sandability/finish (as you would wax styrene with polyester resins?)
I add ADDITIVE F in my hot cote to make sanding easier and to prevent fish eyes, if i did a dark pigment in the laminating process i will not use ADDITIVE as it leaves clouds on the surface 🤙🏼
My dad and I made an electric jet board from carbon.
(see: ua-cam.com/video/EsRiNROaXUE/v-deo.html )
It looks and work great, but wow what does it get hot in the sun, and it was really slippery too!
After covering it with eva mats, we fixed both problems! 🤙🤙🤙
This is soo cool! Great work 🙏🏽
@@kobymaymonsurfboards7320 Thank you. We are now working on an electric foil board (we have no waves here) 🤙
What volume, weight and size?
Its a 6’2 with 35L plus minus 🤙🏼
Weight?
@@pa_nick 2.8kg
Very good 👍
Don't you want to try the vacuum infusion?