How to REMOVE RUST for $1- (HOW TO CLEAN A GAS TANK) - motorcycle gas tank pt.1
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2018
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How to remove rust from a gas tank with The Works cleaner. This method of how to clean a gas tank significantly better and more cost effective than any other method to clean the rust from your motorcycle gas tank. Thanks to Luis for helping out with this video.
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You 2 were high af when you shot this be honest
Touch muchh talking. Get straight to the point .
Lmao i saw this comment 1 minute in....2 minutes in i knee exactly what you were talking about
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I'm high af watching this to be honest
Lmao. No cap all facts.
Hey guys thanks for this video! Just used this method on the tank for a 2012 Honda Shadow that sat for about 7 years. Worked great and I couldn’t believe how much rust came out! I put in an inline filter as part of the project and now she’s running great with no hesitations or lurching. Thanks!
This worked like a charm! I did one to one and left it over night. Cleaned it with a pressure washer the next day. I had to go to lowes to get the works. Used a plastic bobber to plug the hole on the bottom of the tank.
Okay so anyone reading this, you need to finish cleaning the tank with phosphoric acid, which is used in "rust converter" and auto body self etching primer, or Royal Jelly. You can use Muratic acid concrete cleaning acid which is hydrochloric acid. But dillute it some with water. And then don't leave it in very long because hydrochloric acid dissolves iron and steel. But the key is to rinse it out with water. Then do the same cleaning with phosphoric acid. If the rust isn't that bad you can start with phosphoric acid only. The phosphoric acid doesn't eat the clean good metal, it only removes the iron oxide (rust). The phosphoric acid turns the free iron on the surface of the steel into a hard rust resistant form of iron which is dark grey. Similar to when you blue a firearm. It's called passivation. The surface becomes more resistant to oxidation. After the phosphoric acid you'll not need to worry about it rusting unless you didn't clean the rust fully. Open non treated rust must be removed for the phosphoric acid to properly seal the metal. Hydrochloric acid does seem to remove rust very quickly although it's very aggressive and you'll want to start with a very weak solution first. Too strong of HCL acid and you'll burn through your good metal if you leave it sit too long. HCL is the same as stomach acid and our stomach acid can dissolve solid steel.
Could you do this with a bike frame?
@@joelominator7752 I have been using 10% double strength vinegar for rust removal, it works well as a soak, but its too thin to spray onto stuff for rust removal. Then I discovered that adding enough detergent to the vinegar causes it to turn into a foam when sprayed on it sticks to surfaces. I used an 'earth friendly' toilet cleaner which contains 10% citric acid, oxidants and detergents as the detergent, it worked very well and increased the aggressiveness of the acid. I would be extremely careful to ensure you're only adding acid and detergent though, many people don't realize that accidentally adding even small amounts of bleach to vinegar can produce lethal concentration of chlorine gas.
I scrubbed through the video to see how they applies the rust converter, I was disappointed to see they skipped it entirely.
Appreciate the gems 💎
What if I just get really drunk throw up in the gas tank and leave it overnight,?
When diluting acid with water, you should ADD ACID AFTER the water.
Acid is more dense than water and mixing water with acid is exothermic (generates heat) and it has potential to boil off violently if water is added to a concentrated strong acid.
The risk of a dramatic reaction is pretty low, especially with dilute weaker acids. However, it is a good habit to add the acid to the water, not the water to the acid.
Before you add the Oil to the tank to preserve it, dry the tank completly with a hair drier. This way the tank will be completly dry when the oil is added.
Then it will already be flash-rusted. Much like using isopropyl alcohol on water-logged electronics, the acetone they suggest will help evaporate the water and leave the oil.
You guys rock i hope it works well for me but you definitely impact knowledge I must confess. .. Thank you
Good video that provides useful info. Thanks !
I was NOT expecting to find a Rose Anvil video about how to get rust out of a gas tank when looking this up!
Really appreciate this video. Im working on a Ninja 500r currently with a rusty gas tank.
When you did this , did you leave the fuel pump!?
well if you have not addressed the tank yet you may want to check this out.
www.kawasakimotorcycle.org/forum/vintage-motorcyle-info/143692-oxalic-acid-new-life-rusted-tanks.html
Don't give your cat a bath in the same bin that you use for chemicals...this is what happens 5:40
Bro that's dirrrty 😂😂😂
Say it ain't so. Bro!
Lol I dig the look
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Do you use this stuff to bath your cat as well?
thanks for the vid! just got my first project bike (2005 vstar 650) for free and she had some rust in the tank
I just cleaned two metal outboard motor tanks with vinegar. Tanks look like new inside now. Cheap, quick, and easy.
Did you use white or yellow vinegar 🤔
@@glasswinder white
@@tomcarter4617 thanks.
@@glasswinder anything?
Vinegar only? Or did u add something?
If you're not using too much Marvel Mystery Oil with acetone, you can actually fill up the tank with fuel and use that to clean the rest of your fuel system. I've done that several times with motorcycles
You guys are two wild and crazy guys.
Worked wonders! I used a Lysol toilet cleaner. The ingredients are different but the main one - the hydrochloric acid was the same. For some reason the Works was like $13 so I got the Lysol for a couple bucks per bottle.
Did you still do 1 jug to 1 water? Thinking of doing this when I get home from work
Did you say to mix the marvel mystery oil with acetone? If so at what ratio?
What was the ratio for the acetone and MMO. How long did you leave it to soak and did rust Start to come back. And can you leave some of that mixture in there and mix with the gasoline. I'm trying to do this to my truck gas tank
Thanks guys, just what I was looking for.
What a gorgeous tank
Thanks guys. Working on a 77' Honda cb125 and had no clue how to clean a tank out haha! Its my first bike 😂
Wow, I just got a 74 cb350 same issue
Same but a 74 cb200
81' Yamaha virago 750 here..
And I'm about to have a go at a '71 CB 125 !
cb 550 1975 here
Good video Guys, quick and to the point..
How much Baking Soda do you put in the tank when you rinse it out?
Easy peasy. And funny. Thanks guys!
So between this and the Apple Cider and Gas Combo The Apple Cider Combo got my vote and they did it on a 80s never been cleaned tank. What do you guys think.
How do you guys neutralize and wash the tank? Every time I wash it after pouring out the acid (vinegar) it flash rust..am I not doing it quick enough?
What ratio of oil and acetone did you use?
You guys rock and your Cat is awesome. I love the lets get to "works" comment. LOL
I need to do this on a 2008 Suzuki M109r boulevard, Will this treatment damage the float that’s inside the tank or the fuel pump, the fuel pump is extremely rusted, thinking of rebuilding it.
I have a CB 77 tank that I currently am working with,. Time is on my side so I am going with white distilled vinegar,. I started with the nuts and bolts to shake out some rust. Unfortunately we are staying home with the pandemic and my wife can’t go shopping . That means I can’t sneak an hour with the dryer to tumble the tanks with bolts and nuts so I did it by hand. The vinegar has been soaking for four days and I could still see rust on the sides of the tank through the full tank of vinegar. Then came a stroke of genius. I got an old U shaped grill brush. and cut one side of the wire off and straightened the brush out which made it twice as long. There is no part of the inside of the tank that I can’t reach and scrub down. I can already see the rust gone. I am going to let the tank soak for three more days and continue to scrub with the modified grill brush. Then I am going to clean out with Arm and Hammer washing powder to clean the tank and neutralize the acid. I will then evaluate to decide ifI will need a tank liner or not. If not I will use a little kerosine to soak into the tank to stop rust . For safety I will use a couple of external fuel filters before cranking up the bike. I have rebuilt the carbs and petcock so I want to be careful.
Nice video, thanks guys
So I did everything you said so far leaving it overnight after I dumpnout the cleaner and rinse it out do I put the baking soda in first then the oil or do I put the oil in then the baking soda? And do I leave the baking soda in and oil on or do I rinse it out like how does that work?
I'm gonna give this a try on an old 1983 Suzuki GS750ES I'm restoring....thanks!...and your cat is adorable :)
Lol I’m doing this for a gs650g - it seems lie the gs series is seeing a wave of revivals
@@oscarschott7047 I think so! The 1983 750ES is the only year of that bike. I started working on it just to get it out of the garage, but in doing so I've fallen in love with it! It's such a cool machine! An icon of the era!
@@pam6886 how did it turn out for you? I might do it on my gs500E(R?). Just wanna know how well it works first.
Great video I just dumped diesel fuel in mine. Already had it its oil it, rinsed with gas good to go. Thanks
How long did you let it sit with diesel before it cleaned all the rust out?
how does diesel work?
I have used a heat gun on low in the cap opening on low to dry the tank . Works pretty good.
I wonder if CLR would work?
Definitely gonna try it.
hello hello can i use the same method t clean the inside rust from a radiator?and if yes i need t find some cleaner hith hydrochloric acid in?
Great video guys, and yes your cat stole the show
Pickling vinegar works as well.
Thank you. Amigos for the information.
I mixed hot water and boiling water 50:50 with rad cleaner crystals to speed up the reaction. Also, after neutralizing and flushing out the tank with water, use alcohol to get rid of the water in the tank.
That’s what the acetone in their oil mixture is for. If you evaporate the water first it will flash rust.
This helped me with my first mini bike, the tank was trashed with garbage everywhere inside.
2:34 love the Pineapple Express quote :)
Always clean lightly rusted metal with phosphoric acid. This is what they put in self etching primer and rust converter gel. You can clean and seal steel by cleaning it with phosphoric acid. Hydrochloric acid does remove rust but it also opens up the metal to rapid flash rusting and basically ruins the integrity of the metal permanently unless you polish the metal or wash it with phosphoric acid. The phosphoric acid closes the pores of the metal. The hydrochloric acid opens the metal. This isn't scientifically accurate but it's basically how it works. Phosphoric acid converts the free iron into hard rust proof metal which is less prone to oxidation.
I'm a mechanic but i always have respect for people that know their chemicals and how to use them, shit i cant even mix Kool Aid correctly.
So use phosphoric acid to let it sit and get clean instead?
could you do this to a rusted bike frame?
I tried vinegar and did not rinse and coat with oil so I had a light coat of rust appear. I rinsed the tank before following this video and the rust came off easy. I did pour half a container of the works and it really did take off all of the rust with ease. Hope this helps.
So you just poured vinegar
Do you think works would work on a stainless steel 30 gallon fuel tank.
It's very grimy inside
Fuel sat for a long time
Electrolysis can be used on tanks. Just done a 50 ltr tractor tank in 8 hrs.
@rose anvil could you pls , tell me the names of the liquids and process , i can't understand ur english pls help
Wow! Great cleaning Idea. What did you do with the works fluid?
Put it in your toilet afterwords
I just went and got "THE WORKS" And its $2 a bottle,
Sir, I went to dollar tree and got it for 1 dollars .
Lmao
Can confirm it’s still a dollar at Walmart. 3/23 🤔
Inflation
Sony A7 camera right? That was amazing footage at 3:45 when you show inside the fuel tank in perfect focus.
Well I'm starting to get the problem you know any gas tank a little rust on the lip well I thought if someone was coated with oil that it would entrust I don't know maybe if I coded my gas tank and the inside with oil
I use 1 can wd40 and handful of nuts and shake and a magnet on a string to fish out the nuts works every time
howietorock same, but I wire it onto the front of a ciment mixer, does the shaking for me, I'm a lazy fuck !
I did the same thing with paint thinner and a bunch of steel bbs. Shook the hell out of it.
Washers would work well, chain is alright to.
Put all the nuts on a long lazy loop of string. Much easier to get them all out.
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Thanks for the info!
Would this stuff wreck paint if it got on the outside?
It's not a long term fix. It'll rust again if you don't constantly ride with full tank of gas. One thing I did to make it lasts longer was coat the inside of the tank with ceramic coating. No more rust again
How to do that
@@wanderingengineer6168 Just pour the thing in the tank and drizzle the tank by spinning it, shaking it. The tank must be dry and free of grease before application
Better use phosphoric acid like the bike manufaturers. This will leave a inactive protective layer on the metal which prevents it from rusting. Thats the grey layer you see when you look into the tank of a new bike.
I wouldnt coat the tank. This stuff will flake off causing you trouble later on.
I stripped the inside of my tank many years ago using a similar method. I just pour a cap full of two stroke oil in at each fill up (or when I get home). The oil coats the tank and helps prevent rust. My tank is still rust free!
@@TepcoCycleRepair my two stroke metal tank has rust.
Will this take of rust scale as well?
I got my hands on a 1986 honda shadow 700 for $350.. tank is in pretty sorry shape. it has a couple of small holes, which i intend to weld shut after i remove the rust.
Will it still flash rust if you don't use any water, just The Works?
What would you seal the tank with besides the oil? After I clean the rust is there something permanent to seal the tank? Thanks
Look up POR 15 Tank Sealer
Will rubber work as gasket when blocking petcock hole with metal? I'll use 50% Works with distilled H20, will check after 4 hours, but may leave overnight. Don't want to lose solution, will save for another tank.
I know it’s been a long time, but how were the results
Did you mix the Marvel and acetone?
Did you guys dry out first or just add mystery oil?
How does one seal the tank after its cleaned?
Great video! Very Helpful!
Will that remove an old liner that is peeling off?
I just posted a video on how to remove an old tank liner. ua-cam.com/video/6Q0WwfL_1F0/v-deo.html
Great video, all info no bs filler👍🏻👍🏻
If you 'seal' it ... what do you use for that?
Now i used 4litres of miriatic acid in my tank and it didn't do anything. Had ot sit 5 days and nothing. How is this suppose to work?
Sooo... how do you seal your tank afterwards? What product should one use that won't be broken down by the gas?
Red kote or por15. Heard red kote better
Cool video. I’m guessing muratic acid might work quicker and more efficient. Just a thought. Might also be cheaper since you would dilute the muratic acid
I've been using muriatic acid acid for cleaning tanks for years... Muriatic acid is hydrochloric acid. I also wear a respirator when working with it, pretty nasty stuff.
do you coat the tank with marvel mystery oil too right after?
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Great video guys, love the cat and casual approach...from the look of the ingredients it says 'Sulfuric Acid' rather than the stated 'Hydrocloric Acid' in the video...could you please clarify? Sorry I must have looked at an old image...found another listing Hydrocloric...thanks
According to its Material Safety Data Sheet, The Works contains 9.5 percent hydrochloric acid.
Think this would work in a kerosene heater?
Hi, could the gas filter cause slower the flow of fuel to the motor?
No, well technically yes, but...
Any decent filter will have plenty of flow, don't get something from the $1 store or made for RC cars.
You have a lot of excess capacity in that part of the system. Go ride as hard as you can and see how long it takes to use a gallon or gas. Now unhook the last part of your fuel delivery line and time it draining into a bucket or can.
"you're gonna wanna do this outside"
Does it inside
lol thanks guys this worked on my honda shadow tank, great idea.
Would white vinegar not work?
Now the tank is clean how you get rid of the liquid what you do too get rid of it
Compressed air is fairly quick
I have a Kawasaki Vulcan, which needs this treatment, but the problem is the fuel pump is mounted on the bottom of the tank, and removing it before treating the tank is going to leave a big opening. Just turn the tank over! Yeah, only they you've got the acid eating into the gas cap's rubber seal. Short of removing the pump and cap and submerging the tank in a 30 gallon storage container full of bowl cleaner, can you recommend anything? Thanks.
Must to close all holes on gas tank and than add 3-4 litres of toilet cleaner is enough. Shake it about half of hour and rise by water and immediately dry by hairdryer.
Can you reuse the works fluid? just put it back in the bottles. what bike were you working on.
cool music
Its $1.
I recently tried this on a 1976 Yamaha RD200. I've done another tank with similar age but with muriatic acid. The muriatic acid worked way better.
this also cost like 10 bucks lol
Crevice corrosion at seams?
Thank you, safety first.
I use aquarium gravel and paraffin it works a treat, then rinse out with some petrol ⛽️
That tank looks like its from an old honda cb400, am I correct?
Mrdubomb pretty sure old CB tanks (pre 1980) didn’t have any hose lines
I had used muriatic acid, left for a day, cleaned out, and then used a fuel liner( year ago). Don't use a fuel liner, I'm now cleaning out the tank again, and have to replace the fuel pump and fuel cap due to clumps of the liner and rust. 05 r6.
May try this method.
Also you didn't say how much of the marvel oil and acetone to use.
I used pink looking liner many years ago, worked well.
red kote never fails
great video
#RoseAnvil... How does one go about sealing the inside of your gas tank after flushing the rust out?
youtube it, plenty of videos about it.
They changed the amount of acid in Works due to people making bombs with it. I wonder if it will still remove rust?
I have tried everything but the moment you rinse it with water.. flash rust sets in!
Dont pour a tank full of vinegar and leave it for 2 weeks and i also think something should be said about the reactivity of this to aluminum parts so if your tank has internal parts like gas guage or petcock this could produce negative results in other ways you might not expect.
Does it have to be the works basic?
Nice. Recommended for water: 99% isoprophyl alcohol.
Easy use acetone.or seafoam an b12 mixed an let it sit for weeks or months
wont this just flash rust if you dont seal it after?
the works has hydrocloric acid in it. which takes iron oxide and converts it into ferric chloride and water. then it attacks the pure iron.
it leaves it exposed to flash rust. I doubt any of the other chemicals in works have any protective effect on bare iron.
I've used hydrocloric acid to remove rust in tanks before. you need to seal it with Red Kote.
wash out the acid with water, drain water rinse with a little bit of acetone, drain and pour in Red Kote. its acetone bases so any remaining acetone only delays drying by a little bit.
Was that a Devon Rex?
yeah.. but what do you do if tank is part of the bike frame? not much i guess
It’s a bit lengthy but if I were you with My Moped, I would take off all the big parts and do it that way. It’s 2 days over having a good gas tank
hahaha lots of works to do XD good one