@@livingindenvercol Yes it does now. I remember growing up in CO and sometimes the snow would linger from Fall to March or April. The weather patterns have changed. 90+ degree days have increased as well in Summer. I bet back in the 70's 90+ during Summer days would be maybe 25-30...now it is what 50? Anyway my point is that CO weather has changed in the last 25 years. As a kid, I got mad at my parents for living in CO. I told them we should live in CA or FL because CO is too cold!
Colorado native. Use to hike,bike,and camp. We don't anymore because everywhere we go your falling over people or spend the day on I-70 to get there. Trails are ruined to the point of being closed. They take their dogs, and if they bother picking up waste, and bagging it they leave it along the trails for others to pick up.
Colorado taxpayer. Come on now, it's not that bad. Yes, I70 sucks on the weekends, but only marginally more than 20 years ago. Still takes 2 hours to get back from Summit county on the weekends. The trails aren't ruined and there are plenty to go to where there are no crowds. I think you should give it another chance, it's a beautiful state, with plenty of great things to do, just have to plan accordingly.
I moved from NYC in 2014 to Orlando, FL and I love it here and yes things have gotten more expensive but that’s life and you have to find a way to adapt as well as evolve. Also, seeing the writing on the wall before things happen gives you the ability to be proactive and make the most informed decisions which will benefit you in the long run.
It's easy to put up with a lot of stuff when you love where you live! And, if you're not growing, you're dying. Just look at Chicago. Been declining or flat in population since the 90's. Not much good happens when more people don't want to move there.
Denver WAS affordable, 20 years ago. Now it's just overcrowded and expensive. Too many people have moved here. People who grew up here are leaving in droves.
@@livingindenvercol When factoring in all expenses, there are literally only 4 US cities that are less affordable than Denver now. San Fran, San Diego, Los Angeles and Miami. A 500% increase in home value over 15 years isn’t post Covid inflation. I understand that it may be a dream for people from other places that have money, but it’s been a nightmare for folks who grew up here and can’t afford to stay.
@@17randersen I think some numbers are a bit off here. I just checked 10 different sources and only one had Denver in the top 25 most expensive cities in the U.S. And we were like number 16 on that list. Washington DC is wildly more expensive, along with Chicago, Seattle, Boston, New York, Honolulu, San Jose, Sacramento, Portland Maine. But there's some ways the numbers can be looked at differently, I get that. We're not "inexpensive", that's for sure. But our quality of life is also through the roof. Also, the median price in Denver in July of 2009 was $213,500. The median price today is $585,000. That's a 274% increase in 15 years. In July of 2009 in the entire U.S. the median home price was $220,900. Today it's $420,800. That's a 190% increase in 15 years. So yes, we're above the national average in appreciation. But it's not 500%. I'm not saying this to be combative, but breaking down the actual numbers can help put it into perspective a little bit.
@@livingindenvercol Yeah I looked at a bad source. I appreciate the real numbers but, I do know my parents house has gone from $150k to $900k in just over 15 years. So that's where I got the 500% from. That obviously isn't an average of the entire city, so I should've put more context behind that. What I do know, is that the growth here is out of hand and the overall quality of life has gone down significantly, IMO of course. It's the urban version of Yellowstone lol.
@@17randersen There are pockets that have gone crazy like that so I get the context now that you say that. It does change as we attract people from much more expensive areas for sure. And things evolve with that for the good or for the not so good. I do think there are still opportunities to have the lifestyle here but be further out from the city still. Compared to other big cities, we're still not big. Now we have been flat on pricing for 2 years now. What the future holds we don't know, but the rapid increase has definitely halted.
Pretty moderate here? I'm going to say no to that. El Paso and Weld county (I don't live in either, but have been in Denver-metro almost 40 years), are more moderate. Everywhere else, not even a little bit. And I know there is a difference between conservative and moderate. Not saying El Paso and Weld counties are moderate because they are more conservative. Most every other county is so far left that moderation does not exist in all those other counties.
Here's my take. I think there's a difference between the voting pattern and individuals if that makes sense? Yes, denver metro and surrouning counties are NOT moderate on how they're voting. Although, we were a purple state not that long ago. But, I mean as far as individuals go that I interract with being more moderate on the democratic side than other big cities I've lived in, I.E. Chicago. Also on the republican side too, I feel like most republicans are moderate compared to say, Idaho. That's what I meant as far as moderate, I don't feel like we have the 5% extremes here heavy on either side.
Hold on!!!! Weather, Wyoming? You ever spent a winter there?? Good Lord. If the wind ever stopped everyone would break their nose. For peace, sure, I'll give you that. Wyoming is great to be left alone. Kansas too. But Kansas? Come on now. No mountains.
You have to be trolling. You had 49 other states to pick from and you went with Kansas and Wyoming for its weather 🤣 Wyoming is a windy windy hell hole as evidenced by no one living there. There are tons of UA-cam posts about why no one lives there. January in Wyoming suuuuuuuucks.
Took my dad to the VA . We drove on Colfax. Passed a store with cops everywhere. Found out a murder had occurred about 10 minutes before we drove by. The last time I was there somebody stole the spare out of my pickup. Yeah Aurora isn't the slum. Because most of Denver is a slum. Ridiculous saying the dems are moderate. The last decade we have gotten stupid far left laws to rival Cali. The Denver metro area votes in stupid laws and people. I live about as far from Denver as you can get and still be in the state. Pretty much everybody here despises the Denver area.
If you're not from a big city I don't think you have much to compare on unfortunately. Now, I didn't say the politics were moderate, but a lot of the people, at least those that I know, are pretty moderate. There's always the 5% on either side though of course. I'm from Chicago though, so that's my perspective. Denver isn't the slums, anywhere, at anytime. Some rough parts, but nowhere near any big city.
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FYI I'm a CO native. Denver was snowy in the old days. 60 inches per year but in last 25 years it averages 45 inches.
That's interesting. Our snow also melts off pretty fast in comparison to lots of places. I love me the snow, hoping we have a big year this year!
@@livingindenvercol Yes it does now. I remember growing up in CO and sometimes the snow would linger from Fall to March or April. The weather patterns have changed. 90+ degree days have increased as well in Summer. I bet back in the 70's 90+ during Summer days would be maybe 25-30...now it is what 50? Anyway my point is that CO weather has changed in the last 25 years. As a kid, I got mad at my parents for living in CO. I told them we should live in CA or FL because CO is too cold!
Colorado native. Use to hike,bike,and camp. We don't anymore because everywhere we go your falling over people or spend the day on I-70 to get there. Trails are ruined to the point of being closed. They take their dogs, and if they bother picking up waste, and bagging it they leave it along the trails for others to pick up.
Colorado taxpayer. Come on now, it's not that bad. Yes, I70 sucks on the weekends, but only marginally more than 20 years ago. Still takes 2 hours to get back from Summit county on the weekends. The trails aren't ruined and there are plenty to go to where there are no crowds. I think you should give it another chance, it's a beautiful state, with plenty of great things to do, just have to plan accordingly.
I moved from NYC in 2014 to Orlando, FL and I love it here and yes things have gotten more expensive but that’s life and you have to find a way to adapt as well as evolve. Also, seeing the writing on the wall before things happen gives you the ability to be proactive and make the most informed decisions which will benefit you in the long run.
It's easy to put up with a lot of stuff when you love where you live! And, if you're not growing, you're dying. Just look at Chicago. Been declining or flat in population since the 90's. Not much good happens when more people don't want to move there.
Denver WAS affordable, 20 years ago. Now it's just overcrowded and expensive. Too many people have moved here. People who grew up here are leaving in droves.
WHERE is now affordable? Is anything considered affordable anymore? Or have our minds not adapted to post covid inflation yet?
@@livingindenvercol When factoring in all expenses, there are literally only 4 US cities that are less affordable than Denver now. San Fran, San Diego, Los Angeles and Miami. A 500% increase in home value over 15 years isn’t post Covid inflation. I understand that it may be a dream for people from other places that have money, but it’s been a nightmare for folks who grew up here and can’t afford to stay.
@@17randersen I think some numbers are a bit off here. I just checked 10 different sources and only one had Denver in the top 25 most expensive cities in the U.S. And we were like number 16 on that list. Washington DC is wildly more expensive, along with Chicago, Seattle, Boston, New York, Honolulu, San Jose, Sacramento, Portland Maine. But there's some ways the numbers can be looked at differently, I get that. We're not "inexpensive", that's for sure. But our quality of life is also through the roof. Also, the median price in Denver in July of 2009 was $213,500. The median price today is $585,000. That's a 274% increase in 15 years. In July of 2009 in the entire U.S. the median home price was $220,900. Today it's $420,800. That's a 190% increase in 15 years. So yes, we're above the national average in appreciation. But it's not 500%. I'm not saying this to be combative, but breaking down the actual numbers can help put it into perspective a little bit.
@@livingindenvercol Yeah I looked at a bad source. I appreciate the real numbers but, I do know my parents house has gone from $150k to $900k in just over 15 years. So that's where I got the 500% from. That obviously isn't an average of the entire city, so I should've put more context behind that. What I do know, is that the growth here is out of hand and the overall quality of life has gone down significantly, IMO of course. It's the urban version of Yellowstone lol.
@@17randersen There are pockets that have gone crazy like that so I get the context now that you say that. It does change as we attract people from much more expensive areas for sure. And things evolve with that for the good or for the not so good. I do think there are still opportunities to have the lifestyle here but be further out from the city still. Compared to other big cities, we're still not big. Now we have been flat on pricing for 2 years now. What the future holds we don't know, but the rapid increase has definitely halted.
Pretty moderate here? I'm going to say no to that. El Paso and Weld county (I don't live in either, but have been in Denver-metro almost 40 years), are more moderate. Everywhere else, not even a little bit. And I know there is a difference between conservative and moderate. Not saying El Paso and Weld counties are moderate because they are more conservative. Most every other county is so far left that moderation does not exist in all those other counties.
Here's my take. I think there's a difference between the voting pattern and individuals if that makes sense? Yes, denver metro and surrouning counties are NOT moderate on how they're voting. Although, we were a purple state not that long ago. But, I mean as far as individuals go that I interract with being more moderate on the democratic side than other big cities I've lived in, I.E. Chicago. Also on the republican side too, I feel like most republicans are moderate compared to say, Idaho. That's what I meant as far as moderate, I don't feel like we have the 5% extremes here heavy on either side.
Memphis TN really like Denver
You guys have had some fast growth too last few years. If you come out to visit let me know, I'd be happy to show you around!
Denver is so super crowed and very expensive and the weather can be harsh. Kansas or Wyoming is the place to go if you want peace and affordability
Hold on!!!! Weather, Wyoming? You ever spent a winter there?? Good Lord. If the wind ever stopped everyone would break their nose. For peace, sure, I'll give you that. Wyoming is great to be left alone. Kansas too. But Kansas? Come on now. No mountains.
You have to be trolling. You had 49 other states to pick from and you went with Kansas and Wyoming for its weather 🤣 Wyoming is a windy windy hell hole as evidenced by no one living there. There are tons of UA-cam posts about why no one lives there. January in Wyoming suuuuuuuucks.
@@chaseteterit's pretty brutal for sure. And Kansas summers? Oofta. No thanks.
Me and wife want to move there
Plenty of room! Where y'all at now?
Took my dad to the VA . We drove on Colfax. Passed a store with cops everywhere. Found out a murder had occurred about 10 minutes before we drove by. The last time I was there somebody stole the spare out of my pickup. Yeah Aurora isn't the slum. Because most of Denver is a slum.
Ridiculous saying the dems are moderate. The last decade we have gotten stupid far left laws to rival Cali. The Denver metro area votes in stupid laws and people. I live about as far from Denver as you can get and still be in the state. Pretty much everybody here despises the Denver area.
If you're not from a big city I don't think you have much to compare on unfortunately. Now, I didn't say the politics were moderate, but a lot of the people, at least those that I know, are pretty moderate. There's always the 5% on either side though of course. I'm from Chicago though, so that's my perspective. Denver isn't the slums, anywhere, at anytime. Some rough parts, but nowhere near any big city.
Denver is a bland, boring, Midwest city.
Totally is, until you turn your head to the west.