They Fixed Gotham Knights! DF Tech Re-Review - PS5, Xbox Series X/S, PC Re-Tested!

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  • Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
  • Lambasted at launch owing to its various tech problems - along with unflattering comparisons against Arkham Knight - Warner Bros' Gotham Knights didn't fare too well in the DF Tech Review. However, let's give credit where it's due. All versions of the game have been overhauled and there's a night and day improvement in the game up against the launch code. We don't often do re-reviews - we just don't have the time - but in the case of Gotham Knights, it's worth it.
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    00:00 Overview
    01:05 Console performance
    05:42 Console optimizations and visual changes
    07:53 PC performance
    09:50 Visual features postmortem
    14:09 Conclusion
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  • @MegaTech81
    @MegaTech81 Рік тому +1302

    Congrats to Gotham Knights for finally reaching a locked 30 fps on next gen consoles! And ONLY took 5 months too!

    • @zigma7x281
      @zigma7x281 Рік тому +97

      We can call it current gen now

    • @indeed596
      @indeed596 Рік тому +52

      Yes current gen. Next gen is a little way off yet.

    • @TheJms1977
      @TheJms1977 Рік тому +20

      Just shows you that current gen consoles are a few years old tech now and the cpus are the weak point yet again, i cant play games at 30fps its terrible, same old story get a pc if you want 60fps minimum.

    • @goldensperm7182
      @goldensperm7182 Рік тому +85

      ​@@TheJms1977 lol 85-90 percent of current gen games are 60fps already. Get your facts check. I'm pretty sure you don't have ps5/series X and ur pc is weak compared to those consoles 😂

    • @TheJms1977
      @TheJms1977 Рік тому +5

      @@goldensperm7182 Guess what Einstein I have both consoles and pc 👍🏻

  • @linger4605
    @linger4605 Рік тому +845

    Months after launch, we finally have a locked 30fps on current gen machines. 😊

    • @longann7560
      @longann7560 Рік тому +21

      yeah what a shame !

    • @acct4600
      @acct4600 Рік тому +77

      still 30fps... garbage! smh

    • @ShanGamer1981
      @ShanGamer1981 Рік тому +10

      truly current gen now

    • @Jaxv3r
      @Jaxv3r Рік тому +25

      @@acct4600 I don't mind if it's 30fps, but if it looks like this and looks much worse than a 10 year old game, then yeah that sucks

    • @linger4605
      @linger4605 Рік тому +7

      @@acct4600 It's sarcasm. My sentence is self-explanatory with sarcasm throughout the entire sentence

  • @SomeUnkindledAsh
    @SomeUnkindledAsh Рік тому +290

    When I saw this vid I thought they finally had a 60fps mode on consoles and i might try it out...but they went from 25fps to 30fps. Exciting.

    • @JayMatthews
      @JayMatthews Рік тому +19

      I was hoping that was the case to, oh well another game I won't even bother with.

    • @Chris-yp6zm
      @Chris-yp6zm Рік тому +19

      Hey, that’s a big improvement for them! It’s like when a 4 year old finally learns to ride their bike without training wheels. Be proud of them 😂😂😂

    • @HeavyMetalCowboy90
      @HeavyMetalCowboy90 Рік тому +2

      30fps is totally solid on these new consoles. I loved the DS remake in quality mode. Visuals were better than extra frames. DS and Deathloop have the smoothest 30fps ever seen.

    • @ivanaleksandartsanev1693
      @ivanaleksandartsanev1693 Рік тому +26

      I don't get how people can enjoy modern games at 30 fps. It takes away from any visual or graphical impressions I might have, because it just looks laggy.

    • @SomeUnkindledAsh
      @SomeUnkindledAsh Рік тому +8

      @Ivan Aleksandar Tsanev I don't get it either. Bloodborne is my favorite game of all time, and I haven't played it in 2 years or more because 30fps. My eyes absolutely dispise it. It looks like a slideshow or a flip book

  • @xyz_xyz575
    @xyz_xyz575 Рік тому +253

    When I read "fixed" i assumed they make it run at 60fps. Well, seems I'll never touch this game 😂

    • @jackjack121
      @jackjack121 Рік тому +33

      Yeah that's like the baseline issue. They shouldnt even call it fixed until that's taken care of. The platforms arent the bottleneck anymore. If you can't get your games to ran at a min 60, you need fix your code.

    • @chop46878
      @chop46878 Рік тому +8

      Just play it on PC, I get 1080p with a 70-80 FPS average with only textures on low playing with a 10700/1660ti so you don’t need a monster to run it.

    • @reloadedspade176
      @reloadedspade176 Рік тому +1

      @@chop46878 yo this was really helpful lol a 1070 ti was on my watchlist but didn’t know whether to buy on console or pc.

    • @chrisstucker1813
      @chrisstucker1813 Рік тому +23

      @@jackjack121 it doesn’t help that they felt the need to implement ray-tracing which no doubt killed the performance. A 60FPS performance mode with no RT would’ve made sense considering thats what most fucking games do on this gen

    • @mindrover777
      @mindrover777 Рік тому

      ​@@chop46878 what about the other settings ? Maxed out

  • @emma6648
    @emma6648 Рік тому +1661

    I’m sure the 6 people still playing it will be happy

    • @theeOnslaught
      @theeOnslaught Рік тому +45

      You are one of em clearly

    • @RyonMugen
      @RyonMugen Рік тому +40

      6 people playing a 4 player game LOL

    • @emma6648
      @emma6648 Рік тому +70

      @@RyonMugen you don’t need all 4 to play

    • @vancednatha1451
      @vancednatha1451 Рік тому +87

      You do realize that commenting this is sadder than 6 people enjoying a video game, right?

    • @TrulyPotato
      @TrulyPotato Рік тому +16

      ​@@RyonMugen You can only play 2 player co-op not 4

  • @TheOldYoungOne
    @TheOldYoungOne Рік тому +472

    If this game ran at 60 on console it might be enough to give it a try

    • @RetroChiZ
      @RetroChiZ Рік тому +187

      30fps games are unacceptable these days imho

    • @sean7332
      @sean7332 Рік тому +75

      ​@@RetroChiZ the only game I played at 30fps in last 2 years was plague tale, but that's a much slower paced game and it was tolerable, this is a fast paced action game, 60fps or no buy

    • @Albert_O_Balsam
      @Albert_O_Balsam Рік тому +40

      Yeah, 60fps should be the baseline for any of this latest generation of consoles, I love Elden Ring, but it's a shame it can't maintain a solid 60fps on any platform.

    • @Londiino
      @Londiino Рік тому +18

      @@Albert_O_Balsam PC runs 60fps like a dream and my mid-high tier rig

    • @iurigrang
      @iurigrang Рік тому +25

      @@Londiino The stuttering was never fixed on PC, so I believe you don’t notice the drops.

  • @martyplaysgames949
    @martyplaysgames949 Рік тому +84

    When I hear 30 fps and then you have Spider-Man remaster or Miles morales or Halo Infinite which similarly are all open world games run at 120hz make use of VRR and in the case of Spider-Man you have Ray tracing which runs at solid 60-90fps on the ps5 and a VRR tv then these developers at WB studios should be in absolute shame.

    • @yomamasohot6411
      @yomamasohot6411 Рік тому +16

      Halo infinite looks really mediocre tbh

    • @goldensperm7182
      @goldensperm7182 Рік тому +2

      I don't know if you noticed but those games you mentioned are first party titles, thus more budget and more resources from their respective consoles. They get more access to the tech of the system that's why they can achieve that performance.

    • @yomamasohot6411
      @yomamasohot6411 Рік тому +2

      @Golden Sperm except Halo, I agree. If you want a technically flawless first-party game on Xbox look at Gears 5.

    • @jordanbtucker
      @jordanbtucker Рік тому +7

      @@goldensperm7182 That doesn't explain why Spider-Man runs great on PC while Gotham Knights doesn't.

    • @Lukas-kz4xm
      @Lukas-kz4xm Рік тому

      @@goldensperm7182 Sorry but that makes no sense that having less of a budget (Warner Brothers may I add) means for a lesser frame rate, what?

  • @SomewhatFiction
    @SomewhatFiction Рік тому +227

    I believe there is a big miss in this coverage in the way co-op was not tested, especially since this was sold as a co-op game. At least on PS5, if your co-op partner goes off on their own for a bit in the open world, creating some distance between the two players, the fps drops are still large and noticeable. This issue only resolves if the two players close their distance between each other.

    • @gellister
      @gellister Рік тому +16

      Flashbacks to Minecraft on Xbox 360.... Oof.

    • @kjohansen4088
      @kjohansen4088 Рік тому +25

      It’s funny because the devs tried to make the case that they had to lock it at 30fps to give us an unteathered co-op experience. Maybe they should have just made it a single player game. Sounds like they weren’t able to deliver what they promised.

    • @m0rianne
      @m0rianne Рік тому

      No one cares about a children's console mate. Grow up, get a real job, get off your console.

    • @imneverbackingdown
      @imneverbackingdown Рік тому +1

      That or Ark 😆

    • @Vash12788
      @Vash12788 Рік тому +12

      Not only are you correct about co-op but they also seem to think that the batcycle is the fastest form of travel. Most of the heroic travel methods for the characters are faster than the batcycle. Use heroic travel to test streaming performance. More than a few times I'd grapple around too fast and cause the game to crash, which would never happen riding the batcylce.

  • @uselesstilxmas
    @uselesstilxmas Рік тому +367

    Will definitely give it a try on steam sale. For like 5 bucks

    • @sitedel
      @sitedel Рік тому +43

      It has recently been fully donated in the "Türkie-Syria earthquake relief bundle" : all profits went to charity!
      As a result I expect technical support on this game will cease very very soon.

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster Рік тому +2

      That is what it's worth and only for the "semi-hidden" bosses and Harley Quinn.

    • @OG23IV
      @OG23IV Рік тому +14

      It’s really worth it even at $20-$30. Hopefully you’ll enjoy too. Really fun game

    • @bizmonkey007
      @bizmonkey007 Рік тому +11

      I don’t know if I’d play it even if it was for free, tbh. I like Digital Foundry’s breakdowns but this just looks like a drag to play.

    • @batzraph708
      @batzraph708 Рік тому +11

      I fully enjoyed the gameplay and atmosphere. Never once felt repetitive or bored.

  • @MegaKiri11
    @MegaKiri11 Рік тому +230

    Really appreciate you revisiting games after patches!

  • @TheActualCarlCofield
    @TheActualCarlCofield Рік тому +24

    That motorcycle is doing a strong consistent 15mph

    • @Case_
      @Case_ Рік тому +4

      Reminds me how it was confirmed recently that in Dragon Age (I think?), sprinting on horse meant travelling at the exactly same speed as not sprinting, it just adjusted the camera FOV a bit and showed some "wind lines" (just like they are here) for an illusion of added speed.

    • @TakumiJoyconBoyz
      @TakumiJoyconBoyz Рік тому +3

      @@Case_ Dude, that's actually hilarious...

    • @Case_
      @Case_ Рік тому

      @@TakumiJoyconBoyz Frankly, I suspect that's how quite a few open world games do it. Including this one, I suspect (but I need to verify it ;) ). Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

  • @Nice_Places
    @Nice_Places Рік тому +6

    No 60fps mode, no purchase from me. Drop this obsession with ray-tracing and 4K resolution as games can run at 1440p/1080p @ 60fps and you might have my money.

  • @toasterdogg
    @toasterdogg Рік тому +301

    Unfortunately, the performance troubles are far from the only issues with the game. The gameplay and world are still wrought with problems that really shouldn’t be there considering the great job WB Montreal did with Arkham Origins nearly ten years ago.

    • @randydonovan7844
      @randydonovan7844 Рік тому +52

      They did a great job because they had a formula they basically copied from rocksteady. Who for some reason decided to destroy that formula for live service garbage now.

    • @bikechan9903
      @bikechan9903 Рік тому +7

      Internet commenters told me that anyone that says this game is bad never played it.
      So _clearly_ you never played it

    • @LarryDavis2099
      @LarryDavis2099 Рік тому +8

      Origins was the last good Arkham game

    • @PAT22287
      @PAT22287 Рік тому +2

      This is and should have only been advertised as a coop game. It just doesn’t work if it’s not played that way.

    • @ewjiml
      @ewjiml Рік тому +4

      @@bikechan9903 And clearly, you need higher standards for videogames.

  • @Mistah47
    @Mistah47 Рік тому +102

    Until it has 60 fps, it’s not fixed imo. 😂

    • @hotbananawater9710
      @hotbananawater9710 Рік тому +6

      Baffling how this game can’t even run at 60FPS lmao. I would be embarrassed if I were the developers.

  • @evostu7814
    @evostu7814 Рік тому +207

    An almost locked 30fps on console, well done guys that’s an instant buy now.

    • @elimin8tor
      @elimin8tor Рік тому +73

      If it were previous gen it'd be fine, but 30fps locked for a current gen game that looks as average as this is criminally pathetic

    • @rayyanabdulwajid7681
      @rayyanabdulwajid7681 Рік тому +44

      Atleast 60 is mandatory

    • @tivtag
      @tivtag Рік тому +8

      30fps is unplayable if one is used to >100fps…

    • @1UpWorld
      @1UpWorld Рік тому +25

      @@elimin8tor I think he was being sarcastic…

    • @magicjack4076
      @magicjack4076 Рік тому +3

      I think starfield will be locked 30 fps but hopefully with a 60 fps mode too but then again Gotham knight won’t come close to the scale that starfield is and 30 fps is really unacceptable especially cause Gotham knight just looks so bland

  • @Xbox_Nation
    @Xbox_Nation Рік тому +64

    Sucks that there is still no 60fps

    • @Youraveragegamer_97
      @Youraveragegamer_97 Рік тому +1

      Why would it matter

    • @ravioli-bamboli
      @ravioli-bamboli Рік тому +24

      @@Youraveragegamer_97 Because 60fps is the norm for gaming anymore and it shows a lack of polish when your game in 2023 has a hard time even hitting 30fps

    • @Youraveragegamer_97
      @Youraveragegamer_97 Рік тому +7

      ​@@ravioli-bamboli I get that but how is performance gonna save a trash game? The dated graphics, the piss poor writing, the clunky and grindy gameplay? How much 60fps fix all of that

    • @MKMadness
      @MKMadness Рік тому +13

      @@Youraveragegamer_97 it wouldn't but atleast if you're going to play a trash game play it on 60

    • @-BarathKumarS
      @-BarathKumarS Рік тому +1

      Cause the developers are lazy.

  • @davidandrew6855
    @davidandrew6855 Рік тому +55

    OK, so I'm a bit baffled by this. In the video DF show footage of a 2060 Super achieving a near, not quite, 60fps with a Ryzen 3600. IMO, why can't this be achieved by the PS5 and Series X? Those consoles are arguable more powerful than a 2060 Super, with more pixel and texel throughput. I understand the 3700x is down clocked in the consoles, but it does have a 7th core to use for gaming.
    Does this game use FSR on consoles? If it does and the best they can do is 30fps _almost_ then the issue is more than I was understanding. Unless the 16GB of memory on the current gen consoles is the issue, I don't understand how this came is not closer to 60fps, if that can be achieved with a 3600/2060 Super combo on PC.

    • @sachin2ksports
      @sachin2ksports Рік тому +7

      Pretty sure the game's heavily single threaded which severely limits performance lol

    • @FerreiraFredes
      @FerreiraFredes Рік тому +8

      Its running at 1440p on the 2060S, with DLSS balanced, which means lower than 1080p internal resolution. PS5 and Series X run at 4k, and even with DRS that is a much higher resolution. And, AFAIK, consoles have a performance mode for 60fps? I dont have the game but i think it has, without Raytracing of course. Still performance is bad on consoles.

    • @davidandrew6855
      @davidandrew6855 Рік тому

      @@sachin2ksports Ah, I did not even think about that, thanks for bringing that up. It certainly makes more sense in that light.

    • @stephenwakeman3074
      @stephenwakeman3074 Рік тому +18

      @@FerreiraFredes No perf mode on consoles for this game. Only 1 mode, which is the mode they give you, capped at drs 4K 30. You’d think they’d let you drop res to 1440p and/or disable RT creating a prefer perf mode for it. Alas.

    • @FerreiraFredes
      @FerreiraFredes Рік тому +2

      @@stephenwakeman3074 Well then that sucks a lot and makes no sense. It should have a performance mode.

  • @Dick_Valparaiso
    @Dick_Valparaiso Рік тому +18

    I was really hoping WB would've given Gotham Knights the Watch Dogs: Legion treatment. WDL launched at 30fps w/rt, then updated to run at 60fps minus rt. Looks and runs fine on PS5 too.
    I'm still not holding my breath for GK. However, the addition of dynamic res is a solid first step. FSR could help too. If GK gets a solid 60fps mode I might look into it discounted or on PS+.

    • @KyleSetFire
      @KyleSetFire Рік тому +1

      I'm almost certain that the reason the game doesn't have a 60fps is due to game design. I'm sure they were doing an interview and said that due to the way the physics/animations are calculated or something the game will always be locked to 30fps.

    • @crazycakez123
      @crazycakez123 Рік тому

      Ubisoft made watchdogs….

  • @-FAFO-
    @-FAFO- Рік тому +150

    Gotta love when studios release betas just to get them out by some set time frame that corporate has decided upon. There's no way you don't notice performance issues like that on launch, and magically have a fix 5 months later.

    • @saunders017
      @saunders017 Рік тому +7

      Idk how you’re getting away with that display name of yours but I salute you sir, godspeed.🫡

    • @SpartasEdge
      @SpartasEdge Рік тому +8

      I do wish games were actually finished and completed at launch, what a concept..

    • @tm0054
      @tm0054 Рік тому +8

      With games now it's best to wait 6 months to a year after launch before playing.

    • @caiomarastoni1031
      @caiomarastoni1031 Рік тому +3

      @@tm0054 The game will play better and will be cheaper

    • @SpartasEdge
      @SpartasEdge Рік тому +2

      @@tm0054 Yep; there is pretty much no incentive these days for early buyers. All you have to do, is wait 6 months, and you'll get a game that's actually finished, and for much cheaper.

  • @alexsabre3219
    @alexsabre3219 Рік тому +5

    Not that the content warrants it anyway, but no 60fps performance mode on consoles.. no thanks.
    Ridiculous that this game can’t pull that off.

  • @marktadd3331
    @marktadd3331 Рік тому +37

    It would be nice to see VRR implemented on console even if it only raised the FR to 40-45 fps

    • @andrewvitor4808
      @andrewvitor4808 Рік тому +2

      This game running in 30fps makes no sense

    • @chrisclarke4295
      @chrisclarke4295 Рік тому +6

      40fps would make a massive difference
      The exact halfway point between 30 & 60fps when it comes to frame time

  • @JamieRobert_
    @JamieRobert_ Рік тому +9

    Still runs at 30fps no thanks

  • @JKHYT
    @JKHYT Рік тому +63

    Doesn't really matter at this point. That's why I continue to scratch my head when these years-long projects release in a state that makes such an AWFUL first impression. You only get one chance and all that. It's too little too late and devs should not be let off the hook for releasing broken products. Just delay it or sell it at a discount. Full price for unfinished games has to stop.

    • @xyoxus
      @xyoxus Рік тому +12

      It will only stop when sales stop. And there are still way too many people pre-ordering and buying unfinished games.

    • @Gbriel1234567890
      @Gbriel1234567890 Рік тому +3

      Can't blame only the devs though. Nowadays they have to cater to the whims of shareholders and the people actually paying the bills.

    • @no-barknoonan1335
      @no-barknoonan1335 Рік тому +7

      ​@@Gbriel1234567890 The people paying the bills for shareholders and devs are customers, the day customers stop buying broken releases is the day games will get better.

    • @lg8048
      @lg8048 Рік тому +1

      ​@@no-barknoonan1335 That Part!!!

    • @LogainAblar
      @LogainAblar Рік тому +2

      "First Impression" is exactly what came to mind when I finally got around to watching this video. I agree with you 100%. This situation is not something to celebrate.

  • @toutagamon
    @toutagamon Рік тому

    what kind of settings do the consoles use, compared to the pc?

  • @lunakurouwu3935
    @lunakurouwu3935 Рік тому +10

    30fps, fixed....

  • @jaffaraltakiah2501
    @jaffaraltakiah2501 Рік тому +12

    It's still 30fps on console. So still a no there. I might give it a try on PC, again!

  • @Dorraj
    @Dorraj Рік тому +2

    I wish you guys would do these with more games. There's a lot of games that get fixed after launch and are ignored

  • @bayernfan251
    @bayernfan251 Рік тому +1

    What's weird is that sometimes the game makes a drop in frames abd crashes when i'm playin with Knightwing only. I'm on Series X

  • @Unprotected1232
    @Unprotected1232 Рік тому +24

    If developers and publishers don't botch their releases then maybe they could enjoy the privilege of having fewer price cuts and discounts from seasonal sales.

    • @Masarofia
      @Masarofia Рік тому +1

      Pretty certain it's publishers fault 99% of the time. "Think of the short term profits! We can not skip a year without a release or something, gotta get the game out now to get some money! Does not matter if the next game will fare poorly, we can blame this on the studio and not our shitty decisions!"

  • @hugejackedman3447
    @hugejackedman3447 Рік тому +8

    I fear what will become a standard is releasing a less than 100% game just to grab the cash, then deciding whether or not to bother correcting issues that shouldn't have existed in the first place based on sales.
    Patching is the new dlc...

  • @nexus888
    @nexus888 Рік тому

    Did they fix the bug with fps dropping to around 2-5 when in a fight? I uninstalled the game after having this every so often in a fight. It got me killed each time unless I could escape from the area or I simply had to quickly do an alt+F4 to get out of the game.

  • @larrytaylor2692
    @larrytaylor2692 8 місяців тому +2

    I really dont get the 30fps. I just installed this on my old gaming pc and it runs at 1440p around 120fps all the time except for that start bike scene. Your telling me the series x and ps5 are not as good as my 5600xt?

    • @HeyCMDR1991YT
      @HeyCMDR1991YT 5 місяців тому

      Xbox Series and PS5 is not the problem the biggest problem why Gotham Knights still runs pretty bad on every platform is because they have Ray Tracing turned on by default and it's way too extremely demanding on GPU for this type of game but that's seriously impressive how you were able to render the PC version at 1440p and 120 FPS 😲

  • @xammispielt
    @xammispielt Рік тому +4

    Danke! I got the PC Version recently from humble (earthquake relief) and I like the game so far. No issues. I assume it's post patch now

  • @claudiodelafuente1896
    @claudiodelafuente1896 Рік тому +63

    For those of us that plan to play this game, thank you for covering it, DF! You guys rock :)

    • @Alfenium
      @Alfenium Рік тому +7

      Why would you even though?

    • @claudiodelafuente1896
      @claudiodelafuente1896 Рік тому +18

      @@Alfenium Because I want to, that’s why. Already played a little and enjoyed it, so I will continue to do so.

    • @BrotherKnowledge.
      @BrotherKnowledge. Рік тому +7

      ​@@claudiodelafuente1896
      Good stuff, man. I hope you enjoy the hell out of it.
      A friend of mine and I played the hell out of this game. So much fun with a dedicated friend. Least in our experience.
      Again. I hope you enjoy!

    • @Alfenium
      @Alfenium Рік тому +4

      @@claudiodelafuente1896 Bad taste.

    • @sawdust8691
      @sawdust8691 Рік тому +3

      I actually enjoyed it decent enough.
      Playing co op with Batman characters is fun. And the story was good enough, if not great.
      I'd say it's a bit below mediocre. But there is fun to be had. I don't still play it though. No reason to after the story ended, and it's not good enough for me to spend more time with it.
      But I'm glad there are people who enjoy it.

  • @Nikelangelo
    @Nikelangelo Рік тому

    Hi Oliver @DigitalFoundry , I think you should look into getting a higher gain on your microphone setup. I've noticed before that your voice in general is lower compared to the others on my desktop setup, where I've had the option to volume up easier. But now on my laptop, even at 100% I have troubles hearing you well unless there is absolute quit around me.

  • @Centrifyable
    @Centrifyable Рік тому +2

    When we get 60 fps on consoles is when we can say they truly *fixed* it

  • @Evaquiel
    @Evaquiel Рік тому +4

    No 60fps option? On a Ps5 game? Really?

  • @K.thai18
    @K.thai18 Рік тому +9

    I thought there would be a 60fps update…..

  • @playzy546
    @playzy546 Рік тому +1

    Will you revisit forspoken too and test the new performance patch?

  • @Case_
    @Case_ Рік тому +2

    When a 2022 game reaching stable(ish) 30 fps is something to celebrate and make a special video about...

  • @chrisbomber101
    @chrisbomber101 Рік тому +4

    Had hopes for a 60fps at 1080p - 1440p mode on ps5

  • @DCstroller
    @DCstroller Рік тому +76

    I’m hitting the like button on this video specifically for the retesting nature of it. Plz do more of these. Wild hearts for example. I’ve held off on both games because of the performance issues. Be good to know when they’re finally worth my money

    • @DeesBees85
      @DeesBees85 Рік тому +3

      Most games do not get fixed like this.

    • @jimecherry
      @jimecherry Рік тому +1

      even fixed most people would say this game is only worth your money on 50% off sale ;}

    • @chrislair6832
      @chrislair6832 Рік тому

      Yeah that's going to kind of be pointless on this game I'm pretty sure

    • @DragonMasterSubo
      @DragonMasterSubo Рік тому

      neither this nor wild hearts are worth the price of entry. Wild Hearts in particular has balance, camera, and combat issues. There have been tons of glitches with the monsters not even triggering the traps you set.
      Both games just feel like beta versions, even after all the patching.

  • @loovlehcuppatea2830
    @loovlehcuppatea2830 Рік тому

    Is there a mod to take away the hero lighting on pc?

  • @imam3603
    @imam3603 Рік тому +1

    idk but something feel off when using the bike, you feel like it has no weight and zéro sens/feel of speed

  • @hypnobearcoup2505
    @hypnobearcoup2505 Рік тому +4

    Wait, it’s still only 30fps? Why make this video?

  • @MEFelicia
    @MEFelicia Рік тому +34

    As a 30 yr DC fan and a casual gamer for the past 20 years, I'm glad I bought this when it went on sale for $28. Best money I've ever spent on a game. I enjoy it far more than God of War and I spent waaay more money on GoW. I'm addicted to patrolling Gotham. And the story, while not a new one, is fun and engaging. The detective work and puzzles are simple but fun. Great game overall if you just take it as what it is.

    • @th3ronin407
      @th3ronin407 Рік тому +9

      This is what I needed to hear, I'm gonna give it a chance

    • @FernandoGarcia-rl6gj
      @FernandoGarcia-rl6gj Рік тому +1

      I was going to buy it on sale myself for 28$ on Amazon, hardcore DC fan myself just didn't know if this game was worth trying

    • @AllycatAnarch
      @AllycatAnarch 11 місяців тому

      I just got it and I'm absolutely loving it. Took me a little while to get into it, but plays like a dream. Red hood is my go too.

    • @chavawinnie1
      @chavawinnie1 10 місяців тому +2

      It’s currently $20.99 on digital for series X. I have a $25 gift card and will be giving it a chance thanks to your comment. ;)

    • @bs_shifty_4207
      @bs_shifty_4207 10 місяців тому

      Lol game of the year vs gothem nights and the fact it runs at 30 fps is pathetic

  • @nigelo92
    @nigelo92 Рік тому

    The pedestrian like locomotion of the motorcycle driving looks comically slow still lol

  • @JJSaturday
    @JJSaturday Рік тому

    Anyone else getting crashes on PC AMD GPUs when enabling RT or FSR? Only happening on my 6800XT and 6700XT machines, but not on another rig I have with an Nvidia RTX 2070.

  • @buschg7106
    @buschg7106 Рік тому +3

    Since when is 30fps the standard? It's 2023 no way 60fps isn't the BARE MINIMUM

  • @StrongArmEntertainment
    @StrongArmEntertainment Рік тому +8

    I never thought I would hear someone say a locked 30fps was a huge improvement lol

  • @subjectivereviews
    @subjectivereviews Рік тому +1

    In the console 30fps mode did i jus see 31fps?

  • @YouTubeCensors
    @YouTubeCensors Рік тому +2

    I came in expecting this to be 60fps performance mode. Instead an almost nearly locked 30

  • @ltlynx77
    @ltlynx77 Рік тому +11

    Chrono Cross also got fixed. An analysis on that would be welcomed.

    • @Snaaake_Beater
      @Snaaake_Beater Рік тому

      good to know. whats about tales off?

    • @m0rianne
      @m0rianne Рік тому

      Weebs who play that japenese garbage never care about performance. Only waifus.

  • @amankmr03
    @amankmr03 Рік тому

    will there be performance mode on newer consoles ?

  • @Remmaster
    @Remmaster Рік тому

    Glad to see and hear that , Heard that denuvo at lunch was causing alot of issues.

  • @RamssesPharaoh
    @RamssesPharaoh Рік тому +7

    Thank you, DF. We usually don't know what's happening under the business vs. developing hood. Not the first game with this kind of issue, sadly. At least they have continued to work on it and improve it. And yes, I like the game. It runs much better than at launch.

    • @chrislair6832
      @chrislair6832 Рік тому +1

      A shit sandwich is still a shit sandwich when you put mayo on it

  • @vitadude5004
    @vitadude5004 8 місяців тому +3

    I still play this game 😅

  • @bvilleD
    @bvilleD 3 місяці тому +2

    this is the reason why i stopped playing games at launch. for a better experience, i wait at LEAST a year before i even consider it. by then, it's patched well and the game is on sale.

  • @sassymuffinzz
    @sassymuffinzz Рік тому +2

    No 60fps option on console means no purchase from me.

  • @gleam6370
    @gleam6370 Рік тому +9

    Is resident evil 4 demo gonna be covered? Or atleast a tech review prior to launch
    I’ve played the demo on ps5 and series x, and there’s a significant difference in resolution and performance. The resolution on PS5 is nowhere near as good as on series x

    • @gtibro6799
      @gtibro6799 Рік тому +5

      These are facts and I agree I saw that as well

    • @ignaciod7701
      @ignaciod7701 Рік тому +4

      Yes i tested and xbox have VRR with LFC 120hz and PS5 only VRR 60HZ

    • @mrrawww2427
      @mrrawww2427 Рік тому +2

      Looks incredible on pc also

    • @azureflame125
      @azureflame125 Рік тому +2

      played the demo yesterday on PS5 and I noticed some pretty low res assets (especially walls) here and there. I wasn't very impressed by the graphics overall.

    • @stephonhines6554
      @stephonhines6554 Рік тому

      Its called a demo

  • @BLonsdale912
    @BLonsdale912 Рік тому +4

    No 60 fps, no play

  • @TheSliderW
    @TheSliderW Рік тому

    Were the gameplay and interface fixed ?

  • @grimfandango7135
    @grimfandango7135 11 місяців тому +2

    As someone who pre ordered this it’s ok. It’s not Arkham but it’s fun to just play plus they added content for free.

  • @bigkabuto
    @bigkabuto Рік тому +4

    I don't get why X has to have more frame drops more often and even a lower resolution at some points. Folks on Neogaf and such sites blame it on S. Claiming that's what you get when you have to optimize for S too, but I wonder if that's the reason at all. I don't like it though.

    • @ajibsaladka
      @ajibsaladka Рік тому +1

      Lazy devs. Series x is 4k. Drop the resolution to 1080p and boom its "optimized" for series s.

    • @robsworldofgaming8212
      @robsworldofgaming8212 Рік тому

      @@ajibsaladkaif it was that simple they would’ve done it

  • @konga382
    @konga382 Рік тому +23

    You cannot call this game "fixed" as long as they don't have a 60fps mode.

    • @darrenchilds5034
      @darrenchilds5034 Рік тому

      A true next gen game won’t have 60fps these consoles aren’t that powerful lmao

    • @megamanx1291
      @megamanx1291 Рік тому

      Many 3rd party AAA games are just too much for these consoles

    • @losangerooski9517
      @losangerooski9517 Рік тому

      ​@@darrenchilds5034 watch GTA VI be way more graphically impressive and have a Performance RT Mode 💀

    • @konga382
      @konga382 Рік тому

      @@darrenchilds5034 This is not a true next-gen game. This is a last-gen game with CPU optimization so bad that they had to cancel the last-gen versions.

  • @Rhadoo89
    @Rhadoo89 Рік тому

    The audio level for this video is too low. Can you increase the volume?

  • @kingbuusaki7130
    @kingbuusaki7130 Рік тому +1

    Did they add any variety or my fighting the same Five grunt sover and over again

  • @roms3
    @roms3 Рік тому +3

    I would've thought about playing it if it had 60fps. 30fps is a poor excuse for a game nowadays.

  • @logancollier1705
    @logancollier1705 Рік тому +3

    I've been seeing more and more arguments that the Xbox series x is getting post patch updates and outperforming the PS5 on games where it has significant frame drops compared to the PS5. It'd be nice to see a Roundup of some games post-launch FPS comparison

    • @lysandros765
      @lysandros765 Рік тому

      Well this specific comparison is quite meaningful in context of this narrative i think.

    • @logancollier1705
      @logancollier1705 Рік тому

      @@lysandros765 But it doesn't represent all the games they have reviewed over this new generation and every time its brought up that PS5 runs games better regardless of "power" people always say something to the tune of well it runs at higher fps and higher resolution than the PS5 now... even though they have no way of measuring it... If I cant find a review or someone showing frame times then I assume its roughly the same as launch.

  • @RMD2U
    @RMD2U Рік тому +1

    Five more frames, transformative? Only DF!

  • @twocityfoodies8476
    @twocityfoodies8476 Рік тому +14

    So in other words, if they had just given it 6 more months of time instead of forcing it out and letting end users be QA testers, they could've done some serious $$$$$.

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 Рік тому +1

      Isn't that most Games nowadays

    • @sellingacoerwa8318
      @sellingacoerwa8318 Рік тому +6

      Stop. preordering.

    • @Why_It
      @Why_It Рік тому

      The 6 months could have also probably helped it content-wise (gameplay and world design) as well as optimization.

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 Рік тому +1

      99% percentage of buyers don't care about bugs or performance problems.
      The reasons the game hasn't sold aren't technical (not mostly)

    • @Shadowskulptor
      @Shadowskulptor Рік тому +1

      The major performance issues noted in this video were addressed a few weeks after launch. Frames rate snobs still would have had a problem with it launching at a locked 30. It's been a perfectly enjoyable and stable experience since December.

  • @bikechan9903
    @bikechan9903 Рік тому +10

    Oh cool, so it went from 27fps to 30fps on consoles...

  • @salmanjaved879
    @salmanjaved879 Рік тому

    What about the 60fps?? When will it arrive!?

  • @jizamkizam9611
    @jizamkizam9611 Рік тому

    Just started the game myself and def noticed the cutscene stutter

  • @michealadebz
    @michealadebz Рік тому +10

    I can’t wait to play it when it’s bundled in with one of the ps plus monthly games for free😊

  • @noodles9345
    @noodles9345 Рік тому +3

    Glad they fixed it so I didnt have to deal with the issues. I bought it on sale on Series X. It's more enjoyable than I thought considering all the negative I heard about it from a gameplay point of view.
    I see a lot of hate towards it for the 30fps cap but I don't mind it. I have a 7900XTX in my PC but I still got it on console as this type of game I really don't enjoy sitting at my desk to play. Also I find sitting at TV distance I barely notice any graphical issues anyway besides framerate and frame time stuff.

  • @elliem2563
    @elliem2563 11 місяців тому

    Certainly not fixed on pc I bought it on steam Last Wednesday because it was on sale.. drops to the 50s in a few areas then other times it doesn't which I don't understand.. even inside buildings I was getting a locked 90fps then about 10 minutes later it would drop into the 50s in the same area.. would go away then start again so I don't know what's going on with that because usually in games the same area always drops frames but with this it changes

  • @alexhorrorgames6720
    @alexhorrorgames6720 Рік тому

    Its run 1080p locked 30 fps ?

  • @alexkuznetsov8928
    @alexkuznetsov8928 Рік тому +7

    Shame that now these minor improvements for game, which looks like a past gen title (exept RT reflections), especially compared to previous title in series (which is actually a game for past gen) now called "they fixed it".
    Stable 30 instead of ~27 fps with uneven frame pacing is a day and night improvment now?
    I really like and respect your work, everyone of you. And I understand and accept your statements about resolving most of critical issues in terms of stability (at least can't deny a math with your analysis), but looking at this level of graphics fidelity across almost all the game, even without AK comparisons, these framerate values ​​on these hardware are just a joke.
    There's no reason to call this game "fixed", it's still a rather low bar of quality, not to mention the rest of the game: its questionable plot, design and balance, adapted to the grinding, which does not give this game anything good for the player in the end, just necessity to farm for more numbers for slightly more damage numbers.

  • @Fred_Erasmus
    @Fred_Erasmus Рік тому +3

    Dear game Devs. 30 fps on my Lg C1 oled looks like dog Sh@% Please makr 40fps minimum but otherwise stick to 60 otherwise I will never play your game. 30fps is horrible on regular LCD tv's but on oled its totally unplayable. Red dead 2 used to be my all time favourite...now i cant touch it unless they update it to 60fps

  • @tony6942
    @tony6942 Рік тому +2

    any chance they patch 60 fps mode? It's taken them this long just to get stable 30 fps

    • @spacecoffee6706
      @spacecoffee6706 Рік тому

      As you can see in the PC analysis 60fps isn't possible on the weak CPU of the "next gen" consoles.
      They could get it to 40s maybe, see a plague tale for example.

    • @astrocyborg
      @astrocyborg Рік тому

      In 2026 maybe 😂

  • @realghostxd
    @realghostxd Рік тому

    Dude the arkham knight music at 0:56 gave me goosbumps

  • @Rebelscum264
    @Rebelscum264 Рік тому +16

    True 4K 30 with ray tracing isn’t bad. They just need to supply a 900p 60 rasterised next

    • @lilpain1997
      @lilpain1997 Рік тому +13

      900p 60... what year are we in?

    • @sean7332
      @sean7332 Рік тому +14

      900p on what planet? Look at forbidden west... Dynamic 4k at 60fps and looks miles better. Demand better.

    • @Radek494
      @Radek494 Рік тому +10

      Why 900p? 1440p 60 fps with no RT easily if they tried...

    • @UltraCasualPenguin
      @UltraCasualPenguin Рік тому +1

      ​@@sean7332 It's also very simple visually compared to this.

    • @crazy-nephew_5857
      @crazy-nephew_5857 Рік тому +2

      @@UltraCasualPenguin This game looks like ass, what u on about son?

  • @HskHeroReborn
    @HskHeroReborn Рік тому +32

    Devs just can't seem to learn that they can't keep doing this without consequences.

    • @Ayoul
      @Ayoul Рік тому +7

      What's there to learn? They keep selling regardless. This one didn't break any records of course, but it's not because of performance. It's because it wasn't good.

    • @HskHeroReborn
      @HskHeroReborn Рік тому +1

      @@Ayoul aren't the two directly correlated? Performance and a game being good or not. Don't get me wrong thier are other factors but it this day of digital downloads and transparency you don't have to worry wether you can get a copy of a game rather of the game shows you through reviews and trusted sources if it's worth your money. Just seem like to me it's hard to hide failure given this

    • @RandomMan10
      @RandomMan10 Рік тому +2

      Game runs like shit? lets blame it on the series S

    • @ooperblownup
      @ooperblownup Рік тому +2

      @@Ayoul nah they just think the IP alone will save a garbage game. Suicide Squad will fail even harder from what was shown. Devs think their IP will sell itself but that is only ever true for something like Pokemon or other Nintendo franchises that have been around for decades, everything else will still need to be half decent to not fail people nowadays see too well through bs in games, because there are so many actually good, next gen games to play and enjoy that are developed properly.

    • @kieran.grant_
      @kieran.grant_ Рік тому +2

      Apparently they _can_ keep doing this without consequences.

  • @polskastylezz187
    @polskastylezz187 Рік тому +2

    it really sucks that decent preformance is still so difficult to achieve. maybe epic games should add tools to help with optimization

  • @jonesygrets6029
    @jonesygrets6029 Рік тому

    Did they put a patch in so I can see batgirls cake and remove the long capes ?

    • @TheLoneMartian
      @TheLoneMartian Рік тому

      Nude and outfit alteration mods exist on PC already. 😂

  • @apgdanielricardo8196
    @apgdanielricardo8196 Рік тому +7

    Oh, I thought they made a 60fps patch, will still pass on this one

  • @VatchGaming
    @VatchGaming Рік тому +12

    Finally perfect 30fps on new consoles. Wow!

  • @dukenukeman
    @dukenukeman Рік тому

    Glad I waited but why no 60 fps still performance mode?

  • @thumper5555
    @thumper5555 Рік тому +1

    Wasn't this game going to be released on last gen consoles? Could that be why the bat cycle is so slow, since the old consoles would struggle a lot loading assets in?

    • @tomgames8616
      @tomgames8616 Рік тому +1

      Yes, a ps5 can have struggles loading assets in. And I notice frame drops when going at high speeds

    • @xenomorphlover
      @xenomorphlover Рік тому

      PS5 and Series S/X shouldn't have problems with pop in or loading assets. It's the fault of the devs not optimizing their games!

    • @thumper5555
      @thumper5555 Рік тому

      @@xenomorphlover I said last gen, not current gen. They were making identical as possible versions for 2 gens so they need gameplay parity. They only abandoned last gen towards the end of development and reworking the batcycle is probably harder than you think.

    • @thumper5555
      @thumper5555 Рік тому

      @@tomgames8616 I'm not talking about ps5.

  • @HanzsKlopek
    @HanzsKlopek Рік тому +4

    If it's still not 60fps on PS5, I am not even trying it.

  • @BlackSnake1602
    @BlackSnake1602 Рік тому +3

    When everyone already covered re 4 remake demo, you are making vid on few months old game that no one cares. GG DF.

  • @CAPCOM784
    @CAPCOM784 Рік тому

    So when will they fix it 100% and re-release it on physical disc?

  • @zenguro
    @zenguro Рік тому

    You have my highest respect for re-testing games after they have been patched! I see so many jumping on the hate waggon, collecting "likes" and never appreciate how much improvements have been made since.

  • @MrMartellSincere
    @MrMartellSincere Рік тому +4

    I got this game with deluxe edition digitally at $35 and waiting for some patches and updates

  • @xxnike0629xx
    @xxnike0629xx Рік тому +4

    Who would've thought they'd actually fix this?
    Now if only they could make a PS5 refined version of:
    - Batman: Arkham Asylum
    - Batman: Arkham City
    - Batman: Arkham Origins
    - Batman: Arkham Knight

  • @barryw4254
    @barryw4254 Рік тому

    How does it play on steam deck now? Because that’s the only way I’ll consider playing it as the visuals don’t at all look next gen to me, not wasting time on an Xbox/ps5 version, especially if it can’t do 60fps

  • @chatshd
    @chatshd Рік тому +2

    I am surprised Spider-Man can push 60 FPS and more but this game cannot !

  • @elwfilms9267
    @elwfilms9267 Рік тому +2

    30fps is not acceptable. End of story.
    Shame on you Digital Foundry calling this thing "huge upgrade". Wake up already!

  • @cmagk
    @cmagk Рік тому +6

    Got the game today, it's perfect on a 7900XT. Have already played for 5 hours.