Great video. A few takeaways. 1. Yes some recruiters may be aggressive. If you are interacting with an aggressive recruiter find another one. He’s completely right. 2. Correct. Don’t sign anything unless everything your recruiter promised you is on paper. You won’t need to sign a contract until you pass all enlistment requirements. ASVAB + MEPS 3. Also correct you can’t quit lol. Once you leave that’s it. But as far as duty station there are now options for specific MOS’s where you can pick your first duty station. Again make sure that it is in the contract. Option 19 + Option 20 is what you should be looking for. 4. Remember this is the Army / Military at the end of the day you’re a soldier. Doesn’t mean that you’re going to be living the life of an Infantryman, but there will be rough times. 5. Reclassing is as difficult as he says but it’s not impossible. Ive held 2 MOS’s in the Army and I’m about to start my 3rd at the end of the year. 6. If the job you want isn’t available you more than likely didn’t qualify for it based off your ASVAB score. There are other reasons but that’s the main one. 7. If you want more info or are looking for a recruiter. Hit me up I got you.
Thank you this was very informative as my husband as just began the process of enlisting the biggest thing we’re confused on is the transition into the army with a wife and kids. What if his first duty station doesn’t have housing available at the time he’s set to start?
@@michaelmatthias9495 depends entirely on your leadership from what I've heard. If they want to go through the work to help you out they will and if they don't they won't
I talked with a marine corps recruiter a couple weeks ago. He told me “I’m going to be 100% and truthful with you” and he was. I did all my own research, and everything he told me was true. I wish all recruiters were like him. I leave for basic training in October
I walked into my Army recriting office and flat out told them, "I know what is in the Army and how it is, what paperwork do we need to do?" From then on, all the dates, pay, and bonuses they told me was 100% true and on paper. Good luck in your basic training, I will finish with AIT in September
Had a navy recruiter tell me that almost nobody ends up being stationed on a vessel. Downright disrespectful to lie to me like that, and it's flat out disgusting to lie to kids like that
My recruiter tried to lie to me, but since I was 17, my father pulled out his retired ID Card, slid it across the table to her & said "he was born into a military family, he knows what to expect, so quit blowing smoke up his butt."
I didn’t join the Army because the Recruiter lied and told me I could switch my MOS at any time in Basic. When I talked to the Marine Recruiter, he didn’t lie. He said it was gonna be complete trash being in the Marines, but you’ll meet life long friends. Then he told me Boot Camp won’t be the hardest part of the Marines. That got my interest, so I asked me older brother to validate if he lied. Nope, 3 years later into my contract. I do for sure hate it just like I was told. I don’t regret it one bit. 😃
@@Wasker20233 It’s what we signed up for, you shouldn’t hate what you chose to do. If you cave in at even the most minor things such as permanent injury or death. You aren’t living your life in full.
As an ex recruiter, I was often asked if a recruit could change her job if they didn’t like it. The answer is yes. It might be very difficult but you can change.
@@VIP_Airsoft if they aren't already touring your school for new recruits then you can go to any branches website and apply. and yes you can be 17 to talk to them but to sign any paperwork you need parental permission.
Honestly, I’m a little mad. My recruiter did tell me that too. Only way out of 25U is by submitting a packet and praying to BDE, since we are under strength. Oh and I’m doing it for my reenlistment 🤦♂️
I am joining the U.S. Navy and when I was speaking to my recruiter and a Chief, they gave me 100% honesty, all the things you have said they have never did to me. They explained the process of changing jobs if I ever wanted to and told me where to find more info to study what they were telling me. I am proud to serve the U.S. Navy, knowing that my recruiter and Chief have my 6.
One thing many people don't understand and the only reason I did is I had former recruiters in my family (dad was a Marine recruiter in '76, brother-in-law was a recruiter in the late '90s), is that recruiters do NOT write up contracts. When the video author says get stuff in writing, be careful with that because if its the recruiters doing it, it means jack squat. When veterans say to get stuff in writing, this is at MEPS when you have gotten your physical, taken the ASVAB, and now sitting with a civilian at a desk and going over how long you wish to enlist for, which branch, and all that. This is where you want EVERYTHING in writing before you sign anything and BEFORE you raise your hand for the Oath of Enlistment. When we say everything we mean EVERYTHING. Get that bonus locked in, starting rank, MOS, and even duty station if available. This is where it gets scary because as a young guy or girl you have to haggle.. probably for the first time in your life. That counselor is trying to fill in the most needed jobs for the branch they work for. Your desires, your wants, your needs are not on his radar. His first priority is to get you to sign a piece of paper and also to sign up to fill in the most needed jobs and places. The jobs no one wants are the jobs he needs to fill, keep that in mind. This guy will lie and scheme as well. He will tell you what you want to hear. He will try to get you to sign that paper and sign your life away. But you have the power. At the end of the day, if you walk. He's in trouble. Your recruiter will be down his ass if you decide to walk away (since the recruiter loses credit). If you're hardballing, your recruiter will actually become one of your best allies. Let me explain how my situation went in 2006. Before I even walked into my recruiters office, I knew what MOS I wanted. For me that was 25S, Satellite Communications. The MOS with the longest and most advanced school in the Army Signal Corps. Before then I had looked over several MOS's. 25B, 25N, 25P, and 25S. I didn't really have any idea what more to do there so I spoke with my sister who had joined in '89 (she's a tad older). She had experience as a 31U as her first MOS which is now 25U. She didn't know which one was satcom off the top of her head but she knew it had the longest school, so she told me to pick the one with the longest school. It also had the most requirements on ASVAB and at the time civilian education. My Dad told me to make sure to work out getting the bonus and rank with my recruiter. So I went into my recruiter's office and told him, I want 25S, I want a sign on bonus, and I want two promotions (start off as an E3 instead of E1). So my recruiter put my packet together, did the background checks, got my college transcript (I had half of a 2 year degree by that point), and started scheduling me for the MEPS part (ASVAB and Physical). He warned me that it was going to be tough getting my MOS because of the requirements. He did a pretest for the ASVAB and I scored a 87 there. Which he said I would likely do better on the real one. I did, got a 96 ASVAB score, but more importantly I got a 130 GT and a 147 EL score (25S required a 120 EL, or electronics). Then when it came to speaking to the counselor, things started hitting the fan. While 25S was a needed MOS, there was a few other signal MOSes that needed more and so he tried to sabotage my packet (remember what I said about scheming). He said that I didn't have the civilian education requirement, at the time it was an Algebra course. Well I was in college and had gotten maximum marks in my math courses and placement, so I didn't need algebra which is why it wasn't on the transcript. I tried to explain that the math courses I took had maths as prerequisites higher than algebra, but he wasn't hearing it. So I called my recruiter, right there and told him I need my HS transcript. Understand this was 8pm at night. The HS I went to was in a different county, and I was 200 miles away in the state capital. Somehow.. someway, my recruiter pulled through and got the transcript faxed to the MEPS office. So I got my rank signed in, got my bonus I wanted, got the job I wanted.. but now the counselor wanted to ship me off in a few days. I pulled a fast one and told him I wanted Delayed Entry. Mainly because my parents had a vacation trip planned and I wanted my graduation date to be after they got back from that. He was PISSED. But I had him by the balls. He had done all that work already and didn't want me to walk after all that. So that day I was entered into the IRR as a delayed entrant at the rank of Private E2, and two months later when I took the Oath of Enlistment, I was promoted to PFC E3 and went to basic training. It sounds mean to do, and I agree. But remember, this is your life. Take it seriously. Its yours, and no one else's. If a counselor doesn't fill a needed MOS, he may get an ass chewing. Don't worry about them. Don't let them intimidate you. Worry about you and you alone in this process, this is your life. Do your research and take your time. Ask questions. It also seems in my story that my recruiter was with me 100% This is kinda true. My recruiter was a former Marine Infantryman. He was a civilian recruiter during the mass recruit surge in 2006. He wasn't like most active duty recruiters. He point blank told me he had no idea what my MOS was. Not all recruiters will be like that. And he was only backing me because I made it very clear at the get go what I wanted and that I wasn't someone to be sweet talked. He was there to do my paperwork, and that is it. I made sure he knew that (in a polite and matter of fact way of course). All he had to do was get my packet in order, so his job was easy.
Air Force recruiters are much different. They require you to make an appointment if you meet the requirements they'll tell you what you need to know and how to proceed but they will not pressure you and they will not contact you again after you leave the recruitment office unless you contact them again.
@@Domschataccountoh damn .. sorry about that bro. If I don’t get my number one pick, then I should just refuse it right? Better than doing something I hate?
@@steeltiger1465hey don’t knock it. It’s in the name. We rarely get deployed. And if a future cyber warfare operator like me gets deployed… somethings not right. I think in such a scenario, we’d be at war.
Best thing i can say is have someone you know who is prior service accompany you to your first meeting with your recruiter. Helped me cut through all the BS immediately
@lklg3549 research, the fact you're on this video shows you're doing the right thing and want to go in prepared. Your best bet is picking a job or multiple jobs and sticking with it, don't let the recruiter convince you otherwise. I can really only speak on being an army recruit though, I didn't sign anything until I got my desired MOS
I was talking with navy recruiters at my high school(even tho I have no intention of joining the navy)I was asking them questions about just why the navy and their life in the navy.The last question I asked them was “so what’s it like living in a boat ”😂,they just stared dead at me mad as shi,and I just busted out laughing.
I was a recruiter for the National guard in Texas, yes my job was to recruit but I always looked for the best option for my recruit, depending on what their needs were at the moment in near future. Is always good to ask a relative who has militar experience. I changed my MOS 4 times, 19K, 11B, 19D and 88M. You need a GT score of at least 100 or 110. Some MOSs require higher GT score. Enlisting in the US Army was the best decision of my life. If I go back in time I will do it again. If you don’t wanna be deployed then should stay a civilian. The military is to deploy at any ANY time. Is an experience only a few have the courage to do. All others decide to stay in the civilian world.
@@ethankestner7475 none can force you to sign but at the same time you don’t need to go to MEPS if you ain’t serious about enlisting. Just take the ASVAB, have you recruiter inform you of all your enlisting options based on your score and once you are serious about enlisting let your recruiter know. Keep in mind that enlisting option change for needs of the service and what you may qualify now may not be available in the near or far future. Good luck 🍀
Never been in the military, but these things sound just like what I was promised when I signed up for college. A lot of promises that were either fake or behind very complex processes.
They even tried to sell me a master degree not long ago, and I was like “yo, I can’t even afford my student loan, and you want me to pay you even more?”
I don’t know why I remember this, but during our first brief after getting off of the bus for Basic Training this Captain comes in and gives the really long speech. But two things I remember was “this is the time to admit if you lied on your paperwork to get into the Army” and “if any recruiter promised you bonuses, special treatment or other BS (edited for language LOL) they lied to you and this is your time to bust their asses” LMAO
Joining the Marine Corps was possibly the biggest mistake of my life. I went in half cocked in hopes of becoming a better version of me. I trusted my recruiter to the end. Halfway through training, I suffered a life threatening incident. I was dropped from my company. A month later, I called my recruiter and told him exactly what happened. What he said was generic and not helpful in the slightest. *RED FLAG.* I haven’t heard from him since. It took months to finally get separated from the military, and all that time I was treated like a recruit, even though I couldn’t go back to training. My word of advice? There’s NOTHING in that depot worth dying for. Stop = think. Side note: Conversely, had I joined any of the other branches, I would’ve never reached the same sense of accomplishment and satisfaction as the Marines.
I just graduated out of marine boot camp with Lima. Best decision of my life. I’m not surprised your recruiter or mrp (or whatever broken recruits go to) treated you still like a recruit. My buddy is in mrp and they don’t really care because you are still a recruit and if you get put into another company they have to treat you the same as everyone else. Sorry to hear about that hopefully all will go well in the future.
@@d33738On Saturday night of Swim Week, most of my vision faded into nothing. A few days later, I was picked up by an ambulance, then I found out I suffered a stroke.
Amazing vid. Id like to stress something as well. Anytime MEPS is offering you contracts, if its NOT the MOS you want DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING!! they will say that they dont have that job, bullshit. Only sign a contract for you chosen MOS if you get a GUARANTEE IN WRITING. My Navy recruiter was pretty honest with me cause i wanted Corpsman, he told me that its a very competitive field and to keep an open mind, but he said if i really wanted it, then just go for it.
Recruiters are like those guys that call you from the bank to offer you stuff. They are NOT calling you because they care about 'their great, super duper, important client', they call you to sell you stuff and get a comission,even if they have to twist the truth, or downright lie.
I had a marine corps recruiter try to tell me I would be marked for apathy and If I left I couldn't join any other branch, keep in mind I hadn't signed any papers I hadn't gone to MEPS, the only thing I did was PT and talking about joining. A few months later I sat down with an Air Force recruiter and said it was complete bs.
I’m currently an U.S. Army recruiter in nyc, even if I wanted to cap I couldn’t bc New Yorkers are skeptical out the gate. Please do your research, and don’t be lied too. As a medic when we started training, I remember everyone upset bc their recruiter said they would be working in an hospital. I look back on that and continue to be straight with people who are interested.
In the Marine Corps for MOS changes, it basically works like this. It’s called a Lateral Move, this is because you can’t just change into any MOS. For Active contracts you must wait until it’s time to re-enlist, however for Reserve contracts you can activate for a AR contract after finishing MOS school and being assigned your primary station (but it’s basically like signing a re-enlistment contract).
@@InstaMemesio Personally, I would not join the reserves unless you’re planning on joining the Air Force or Coast Guard. The most you’ll get from the reserve side of the Army or Navy is a tiny amount of tuition assistance & cheap health and dental care.
I for real had a recruiter at my high school tell me that even though I had in writing a guaranteed civilian job he was like “But is it really guaranteed?” I was like yes.. yes it is😂
@@kungfupao2756 Which branch do you want to join? I'm joining the Army and the first thing I researched was what basic training was like. I suggest watching the 3 part series of shipping into Fort Jackson.
Reclassing or changing Mos can be hard if your specific unit is understaffed. If they are overstaffed it’s a lot easier. Also, NEVER take your recruiters word regardless on what they tell you. REMEMBER they get paid by incentives such as getting people enlisted. They will say anything for you to sign
You are 100% wrong. Recruiters DO NOT GET PAID BONUSES FOR THE NIMBER OF RECRUITS THEY PUT IN. That is a 100% lie. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, stay silent.
im glad that i found this, the army tried recruiting me saying some of the same things you mentioned in the video and he kept prying even when i said i didnt want to join
I tried watching Kyle Anderson video on this topic and just quit halfway (too much nerd humor for my taste). Then I saw your video and found it more informative. Thank you for being straightforward
0:56 (Once you’re in the military) When you’re about to get out and talk to the career planner they’ll do the same shit and sweet talk to you even more. To re-enlist
I started Army Guard, transferred to Air Guard. The army tried to tell me the mos I wanted did not have enough slots. So I told them if I don’t get that mos, I’m going to talk to another branch. Couple days later, got a phone call that I got the mos I wanted. Still was lied to though on other stuff
I scored a high ASVAB and I received notice from the Navy recruiter about the Navy Nuclear Program. After two of three conversations and keeping my distance for about a year, I finally went to have a conversation about it. He started honing in on my concerns about going the college route (due to money) and (later when I backed) when I brought up ROTC, he tried to scare me into thinking I wouldn't get in: complete bs. But anyway, he started to talk me into immediately going along with the process of registration and MEPS. He started talking about me going to MEPS two weeks later, which threw me off. Overall, seemed like a recruiter that could get me where I wanted to go, but was still a slimeball that tried to get me in before I could seemingly say no.
My recruiter gave me a whole speech on my wish list and where it sucks to be stationed and that you can't just quit and when my contract is for sure signed. Also, that sometimes it is going to suck, and he always shows visible stress when I visit the office and told me how my MOS could be changed at different stations and that the military can be like having a 9-5 just in some camo.
I appreciate your videos brotha, I’ve been trying to join the army for months now and they keep taking a long time. Hopefully I can get in soon and start serving my country
My husband is in the navy and im trying to join the military too. I was thinking about the Army and I started talking to a recruter but after many research I found out that being active duty can have an impact on my education ( I’m the medical field) so now I’m trying to talk to an national guard recruiter so I can have time for school.
@@usarmyisthebest9193 not true your current command and state has to release you and the unit and different state has to accept your request to transfer! Do your real homework and stop assuming I’m in the guard 5+ yrs just cause you can do it doesn’t mean they will let you do it!! Key difference 😂 sorry to pop your little bubble of false perceived reality of what they tell you you can’t do and what you actually are able to do. Beat of luck.😅
@Carrymedadda Probably, yeah. But a dishonorable discharge is still a discharge, and if you're willing to smoke and fail a drug test, you really just want out, so you probably won't care about the loss of benefits.
Uh, dishonorable discharged is like a felony on your record, it will affect civilian job opportunities once you're out. Go ahead and do drugs if you want to be "that" guy and hve no quality of life. Meanwhile, it could take forever to process out while on rear detail, yo ass is still theirs in the meantime 😮
@@Seth-vj8vm Like the other guy said, that's a TERRIBLE idea. A DD will follow you around for the rest of your life. If you wanna force the issue, over eat and don't exercise enough. If you play your cards right, you can get ejected with a failure to adapt, which IIRC is "other than honorable". You'll be wildly unhealthy, but you'll be able to pull jobs other than cooking, landscaping, or construction.
Also they don't tell people who are interested in joining the military about your 8 year service with the military or any branch of it. I believe you agree to an obligation of a 3 or 6 years with your mos of choice than for the 5 or 2 years you'll be a on standby in the inactive reserve unit. Which mean they can take you back in if need be but only for the reminder of your 8 year contract after your 8 year contract is up your free. I got this info from a contacting lady at meps when I went on March 8th.
My dad was stationed at Fort Drum. I unfortunately learned from the recruiter situation from my son stuff. He got out during AIT. His recruiter didn’t do all the paperwork stuff right. Now have two girls joining. Marines next year and think she decided navy this summer.
Im still in the recruitment phase and my MOS bonus is 40k for 6 years but the paper work says my term is 3 years with a 25k bonus and he told me its some error or something and at meps itll be fixed. I will DEFINITELY be checking that it is fixed. Theyve been pretty truthful and did a little manipulation but I personally am fully interested im joining so the manipulation was completely pointless lmao like nothing will deter me from this i just think its annoying that they do this.
It's not that the manipulation was pointless, its that it was easy because you are blinded by wanting to join. You should've raised your terms after that little stunt. Remember, he loses if you walk, and there's always another recruiter out there
There's a ton of stuff that you can do with the Army. However, like this guy said in the video. Make sure to read your enlistment contract before signing. If you were promised a bonus, job, duty location, or school. It will be in that contract. If it is not in the contract, then you aren't getting it. I'm almost done with recruiting and get HRAPs thanking us all the time. They share horror stories of how other recruits were lied into a job or the Army in general. Also if your ASVAB score is garbage. Your options will be extremely limited. So don't score a 35 and think you're gonna be a cyber operations specialist.
I hope the army doesn’t force you to take the videos down. At the end of the day, keeping it real is the best recruiting tool for kids today. They’re not as naive as I and many of my generation was. Most veterans today have a love-hate relationship with the army and their military service. The best thing we can do is mentor the young recruits, and guide them into knowing what to expect so that they’re not blindsided. Thanks for making these videos.
An hour before MEPS my recruiter hands me a packet saying I consent to being searched at MEPS medically and all that BS. Out of 20 items you had to sign they didn’t go over about 80%. However the first item on that list says you sign a delayed enlistment program, I told him I didn’t want to sign that one and he looked a little defeated. Read before you sign.
My Army recruiter literally supported my decision to wait until I graduate to begin the process. He said he tells his recruits who are currently in school to prioritize school over anything and begin the process before senior year is done.
I’ve heard all of these things😂 it’s so crazy hearing this from someone else. Thank you! Man, I was like “this seems too good to be true.” It is…it is😂
I never realized how manipulative recruiters can be until i saw stuff on tiktok. My recruiter was very upfront about everything and i did research, and everything he told me was true
In high school, I had an army recruiter swing by every week and took me and my best friend out to lunch. We were so close to signing paper work with him and then when I asked him what my friend's name was, he didn't know it after trying to be our "friends" for a few months. So I smelled the bullshit and we disassociated ourselves with him after that. lol
My Marine recruiter hasn’t mentioned bonuses or pay or literally anything. He’s pretty much just been saying like “there’s a lot of pride with the job, Learned good transferable skills, and I like my job” literally the only reason I’m even considering enlisting is because he’s straight with it.
I came to a recruiters office the other day saying I can change my jobs whenever and that I can stay away from a ship. Another things is that they said is that when you travel they pay for villas and 5 star hotels
Look, heading into my recruiter’s office, I had already done my own research. I knew that I wanted the military and I knew what I was signing on for. I told my recruiters up front that I was going to join the military and just asked them to be honest with me. And they were. Everything that they’ve said has matched with my own research and my little bit of experience being in. I’m currently going through my “A” school to become an ETN in the Navy.
In the process of joining I go for my interview November 27th so this helps so much, the one thing I’m having issues with is like pre workout training before Basic but thank you for the advice!
My relative in the army texted me trying to be overfriendly when i know he never is like that so i knew he wanted something from me. He said "hey, how are you doing" "Would you like to sit down and talk to an Army recruiter and see what options are available to you?" I said no im focusing on college no thank you, "you can come in to talk you won't have to sign a contract or anything" "it will help me alot" 💀💀💀
The only question I asked my recruiter is if I could retake my ASVAB because I BSed it in HS thinking the military was never something I would be interested in and the guy freaked out and was yelling at me saying I wasn’t committed to the AF like no shit bro I’m not tryna get stuck as a cook
i almost went marines during Covid time, thank god I was sent away at MEPs to get a waiver, (couldn’t since there were no doctor appointments available at the time), my recruiter followed me around the city. He showed up at the beach to talk to me at the grocery store at my doorstep the day I got back from vacation(which I never told him I left for) very weird. I also was very misinformed at the time and since then have gained more knowledge and am hoping to get into contact with Army recruiters soon to learn even more.
It’s because the marines work slave hrs, 6-7 days a week, and their livelihood depends on getting people to join. Their career will literally be ruined if they aren’t doing well at recruiting.
@@michaelmatthias9495 The Air force has the best food, single person dorms, and only 7 weeks of basic training. Every Army guy I know is envious of the Air force, while I've never heard it the other way around. Plus, they aren't considered cannon fodder (not as much as the Army or Marines, at least).
@@WaylonElstad they’re envious because of what? Do you know they all go through the same damn culinary course? Do you know they’re all restricted when it comes to altering recipes? Get the Army guys you know to come here and explain why. The ONLY reason is because they can move out the barracks sooner. But promotion and actual career opportunities the Army trumps every branch
1:43 where he says people join thinking they have a bonus, a 100% true. I was graduating AIT and realized that others had, in writing, something stating that they had a bonus and I didn’t, after my recruiter told me more than once that I did. Recruiters also hype up everything, I almost joined the Marines but after a recruiter said to me “think about this, who do you think they’ll hire first, me or some guy with a degree in electrical engineering ?” I kindly said “you” to be respectful but he had taken it too far 🤣🤣🤣
I am glad you made this video, I am currently 28 years old and I want to join the Army and do it as a career I already got a long list of MOS’s that I have researched and my top 3 so far is: 27D, 42A, and 92Y. I’ve already spoken to my recruiter who is a cool guy and I already know what I’m in for, I use to be in the JROTC back in high school. I only got three college course left to get my associates degree so with that and my JROTC experience I would be E-3 at BCT, but once Aaron I appreciate this video even though my mind is already made up about joining
Judging by your age and Mos choices I hope you are in excellent shape and can enjoy going to the gym after a stressful day at work. I became a 42a at age 30. The PT we do is garbage and I hate going to the gym or doing anything army on my free time.
I am 28 and I currently weight 264 but I’ve already signed up for the gym and overall I want to be 27D that’s my number 1, 42A, 68G, 92Y, 89B, 25B, 31E, 15P are just other options
I thought only people with a bachelors degree would only be ranked up as an E-4 because I been told plenty of times and research that I would be an E-3 if I have an Associates Degree and JROTC experience
Thank you for this info, I sent it to my little sister cause she wants to join the mil so hopefully this helps her stand her ground on the career she's looking for.
I got lucky enough to have a great recruiting office near me. They’ve been mostly truthful and where they weren’t, I compensated with my own research. They put their best efforts and put up with my annoying questions (bc I’m not trying to end up in infantry like hell no). They did try to set me up with other slots that weren’t remotely what I wanted but good to keep in mind. They were very much real with me and I appreciate the hell out of that. I did NOT have the same conversation with USAF recruiters. Army never guaranteed anything, never said you can’t/won’t/shouldn’t do a b or c. If my slot isn’t available, I know to wait (probably better off that way too). Shout out to my local recruiters.
I'm currently looking into recruitment options since I'm graduating soon. I talked with Marine recruiters, then I did research on Marine boot camp. It doesn't seem like a good fit for me, so I'm going to look into the Air Force and Space Force next.
After seeing this video I have more confidence that my recruiter is giving me good information and that he’s acting in good faith. Good recruiters are out there!
If they say you can back out anytime and then hit you with you can go to jail for backing out that just contradicts them. That being said, About to go see a recruiter tomorrow lol
Sadly my recruiter lied to me about Veterancy status. I did six years in the Army guard and never deployed and only at year 5 did our Companies VA rep tell me that I needed Six years AND a deployment to get Vet status. I'll get VA loans and nothing else. I had gotten so many different answers over the years too smh.
I’m 19 , just got surgery on my knee and elbow and before all this happened I went and talked to a recruiter about joining the navy and he was gassing me up for what’s to come if I were to join. Luckily I failed the Meps test because I went not knowing if I truly wanted to spend 3 to 4 yrs of my life on a ship , but I am still considering it based off of dropping out of college and not having anything goin for myself that I find interest in , so Basically I’m on the fence there’s a good amount of pros but I also feel that there’s a lot more cons for some rsn and I just dk what to go with
Look man, the navy isn’t as bad it seems plus if you do good on the Asvab you’ll have plenty of job options plus different bonuses based on ur job I got a 25k for boot camp and another 10k after finishing school
My recruiter told me I probably couldn’t get the job I wanted and probably couldn’t get a option 40 because of my background and waivers. I got everything I wanted. 😅 I ship this week.
The videos are very informative I’ve been doing everything to study for the asvab in the Air Force and this has helped me ask myself questions I haven’t thought yet to ask
I had a Navy recruiter promise me based on my testing scores he promised I could be a Pilot and when asked him to put the guatenteee on paper he refused, he said he can't do that so I said then I can't sign your contract.
@@randypennel3731 That sucks. Sorry to hear you got a bad one. Is that something you can guarantee on the contract? Wondering if I can tell this to my future recruiter.
Need's of the Army. I reclassed three different times. It was a bit of a process, but it was during wartime so replacing was a little bit easier because of the jobs that I Reclassed too
I love the comment about going dental tech. There are tons of medical MOSs in the TO&E units to include infantry battalions. I taught in a medical AIT course and when I mentioned how many OR techs were assigned to an infantry division the class flipped out. I explained that a Field Hospital was not a real hospital I got that “my recruited said” 😆
I signed my contract 2 days ago. 3 year 91B (Wheeled vehicle mechanic) with airborne school after AIT. 9k bonus was all that was available. Didn't even think about getting preferred duty station in contract, hope that doesnt bite my ass later. Leave in 3 months
How’s the MOS been treating you? I’ve been thinking of joining as a 91b also I’ve been wanting to learn a trade skill and mechanic caught my eye along with a few other MOS
@Bluedream97 I haven't really done anything yet that's 91B specifc other than the school. I graduated dec. 15th and have been here as a holdover waiting for airborne school. I leave tomorrow for it actually. As a 91B you'll end up learning how to work on basically everything mechanical over your career. If you like working on vehicles like i do, 91b is a good way to go.
Alot of the problem with recruiters lying doesn't help the narrative of getting people to serve, but this is also why people need to first take your time and research what branch you want to go in and what job do you want to do. I always tell people who are interested in going into the military to first, take a couple of days to think about your decision, and talk this over with your family as this decision will not only affect you, but it will affect them as well. Take as much time as needed and when you feel comfortable to go to the recruiter, take someone who has served at least 10 years and was at least a E5 pay grade with you when you talk to the recruiter. Alot of mistakes I see from people who served was they rush their decision, just jumped into the military and took the first job the recruiter offered them and they end up unhappy and are the first to blame the recruiter. YOU need to do your own research on what job you want to do and what branch you want to serve in. Make sure you are both physical and mentally ready because boot camp will break you down and build you up as they getting you transformed from being a civilian to being a servicemember. Which means if you are overweight, drop the weight as it will help you better. Understand they will be yelling at you in boot camp, but that's just to put you in a stressful situation to get you adjusted to military lifestyle. And once boootcamp is over, you are good to go, but I can't emphasize enough for people to first take your time and research and think on the decision to going in before even visiting the recruiter
@@martinquintanacardenas6008im like 5’8” 140 and I wouldn’t say that’s very underweight. As long as it’s a good 140 mostly muscle you’re fine but just try to put on some muscle that’s what I’m doing
good information. I tried contacting one and didn’t want to recruit me so now I have to find one with good intentions. Literally the marines is my golden ticket fr.
The whole reclassing thing is a major pain in the ass. The military discharged me rather than reclassing me. (Long story) Do your own research, the recruiter just wants you to sign.
I want to be an officer because 1. That's my grandfather's expectation and 2. I wanna be a pilot. First time see my recruiter they tried to hide the fact that I can go to college for ROTC or even 4 years OTC for it, especially I got real high GPA, SAT, ACT enough to qualify for commission school scholarship. Made it to 6-5 in NAVY bootcamp and I called home, my grandfather told me that I can actually get out (4:24) and he'll help me do the ROTC thingy, what he didn't expect is that after I got out they gave me an RE-4...which I can't join military again forever -_-
I talked to a navy recruiter to explore my options, but I knew I wanted to go in the army (my friends in the navy and she convinced me to just talk to him) he ended up telling me I wouldn’t have to go on a boat if I chose a land only job (I despise the ocean), along with a bunch of other stuff to talk the navy up that just wasn’t true. Like i get it’s your job but you could at least be honest man
Please don’t comment if you don’t know what you’re talking about. You cannot sign an “11b” contract unless you’re going reserve or National guard, where they’re filling specific slots. The only difference between a Charlie and a bravo, training wise, is additional training for the Charlie. A Charlie can 4187 themselves into a bravo if they get support from their coc.
@@michaelmatthias9495 I’m a former active duty infantryman and that’s definitely not how it worked when I went through. There were 11B, 11C, 11H, 11M, etc. If one has a ranger contract, for example, their MOS will be an 11B. And I’ve never heard of a reserve or national guard ranger battalion. I was an 11M because I didn’t know not to sign an X-ray contract. So the point of my comment was to inform people into NOT signing a bullshit contract that isn’t in line with their plans. And if you have to put in a 4187 to get your desired MOS designation, you’ve fucked up.
@@monkeysweeperguitar there’s only 11x, 11b, c, and Z now. I’m not talking about an option 40 contract, just infantry. Rangers are only RA. You cannot get 11B in an active duty contract so telling someone not to sign unless they get 11b in writing will NEVER happen. A 4187 from 11c to 11b doesn’t require going to any additional training so unless they desperately need Charlie’s it shouldn’t be a major issue after completing your initial time in headquarters.
@@michaelmatthias9495 if 11b exists, then they should be able to get that while signing a contract. Not saying you’re wrong, but what’s the point of 11x if there’s only one other destination available at the recruit level? Why not make everyone a chuck and fill in bravo positions where needed? Doesn’t make any sense. Plus… if someone’s about to walk, and not sign a contract, the person at MEPS is likely to do some paperwork gymnastics in order to get a signature. Sorry, doesn’t make any sense.
@@monkeysweeperguitar doesn’t need to make sense. That’s how it works. You join as infantry recruit and get needs of the Army into 11b or 11c. Unless you’re NG or AR because they sign a contract for a specific vacancy within those units.
I've talked to my recruiter about these before ever seeing the video and he has been honest about a lot of things he is pretty honest at the same time i want to be there i am trying my hardest to get in
There are no correlations in the Army. Just because you're dental support doesn't mean you wont deploy and just because you're a graduate of a battle hardened tested and trued combat killer school does not mean you'll deploy too. Just because you passed the ASVAB several times doesnt mean its a sign of incompetence either, right?
You just don't quit the Military, it's called desertion. You go where the military tells you to go. In '73 after I took the oath, the first words out of the officers mouth was, you are now part of the US military and if you run we will sent federal marshals after you. I was 18 and I wondered just what I got myself into, I found out.
Several good points. I've had some good recruiters in my time but there are some shady ones too. One of the best things you can do is educate yourself and verify what the recruiter tells you with other sources. Read the regs yourself.
Thank god my recruiter hasn't lied to me, She has sat with me for hours discussing every detail, I didn't have many questions though because I did 4 months of research on my own, and have a bunch of military buddies. So there was no way she could lie to me, She constantly texted me through MEPS making sure everyone was nice to me and making sure the MEPS process was as smooth as possible for me, On top of that She tried to get to know me as a person, and Just asked me questions about my interests, and I had a coworker who was being creepy so she wrote up a day off note, so I would not have to deal with him what so ever. She told me she has no problem with me as a recruit because I know what I am doing and some come in without proper research and training. I've made it through MEPS, took my asvab just waiting for my hearing waiver, then I swear in. I am going to the navy, she told me also that they are going to try to push for me to get specific jobs, and not to pick those jobs and to choose what I would like to do. I am hoping for a logistics specialist, and I hope I can ship out in January!!!
Navy usually does not have this problem (IF YOUR RECRUITER ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THEIR RECRUITS!) I had a scholarship coming and mine told me “I think you should take the scholarship if it goes through, the military will always be here when you return, & you could get an even better job”. She NEVER steered me wrong, nor did any of the other PO’s. Even though (if you don’t know, enlisted recruiters are different from officer recruiters). Some Army recruiters are decent too.
I had a recruiter recently that was constantly using obviously empty threats to get me to sign. It was concerning enough that I decided to stop the process. He told me I would have a permanent record and that I will never find work in the state/federal level. All I did was ask for a waiver for a 3 year old mental health record. Not got my MoS either and even the officer at MEPS was calling that recruiter out.
Great video. A few takeaways.
1. Yes some recruiters may be aggressive. If you are interacting with an aggressive recruiter find another one. He’s completely right.
2. Correct. Don’t sign anything unless everything your recruiter promised you is on paper. You won’t need to sign a contract until you pass all enlistment requirements. ASVAB + MEPS
3. Also correct you can’t quit lol. Once you leave that’s it. But as far as duty station there are now options for specific MOS’s where you can pick your first duty station. Again make sure that it is in the contract. Option 19 + Option 20 is what you should be looking for.
4. Remember this is the Army / Military at the end of the day you’re a soldier. Doesn’t mean that you’re going to be living the life of an Infantryman, but there will be rough times.
5. Reclassing is as difficult as he says but it’s not impossible. Ive held 2 MOS’s in the Army and I’m about to start my 3rd at the end of the year.
6. If the job you want isn’t available you more than likely didn’t qualify for it based off your ASVAB score. There are other reasons but that’s the main one.
7. If you want more info or are looking for a recruiter. Hit me up I got you.
Thank you this was very informative as my husband as just began the process of enlisting the biggest thing we’re confused on is the transition into the army with a wife and kids. What if his first duty station doesn’t have housing available at the time he’s set to start?
Technically you can quit. Just fail boot camp
@@straightouttagaming3110 They recycle you if you don't meet the physical requirements
Reclassing doesn’t seem that difficult if you’ve done it twice now…
@@michaelmatthias9495 depends entirely on your leadership from what I've heard. If they want to go through the work to help you out they will and if they don't they won't
I talked with a marine corps recruiter a couple weeks ago. He told me “I’m going to be 100% and truthful with you” and he was. I did all my own research, and everything he told me was true. I wish all recruiters were like him. I leave for basic training in October
Good luck bro best of wishes to you🫡
@@VIP_Airsoft much appreciated
I leave in July the 18th
@@adbwoo8570see ya
I walked into my Army recriting office and flat out told them, "I know what is in the Army and how it is, what paperwork do we need to do?" From then on, all the dates, pay, and bonuses they told me was 100% true and on paper.
Good luck in your basic training, I will finish with AIT in September
Had a navy recruiter tell me that almost nobody ends up being stationed on a vessel. Downright disrespectful to lie to me like that, and it's flat out disgusting to lie to kids like that
Damn
Skill issue 🤓
@@NjgthS0rmgrow up and go outside
You didn’t think you’d be stationed on a boat in the NAVY you’re naive. Literally your fault
@@lsrpjune3500i don’t think him or anyone with a brain would believe that recruiter lol
My recruiter tried to lie to me, but since I was 17, my father pulled out his retired ID Card, slid it across the table to her & said "he was born into a military family, he knows what to expect, so quit blowing smoke up his butt."
🤣🤣🤣
Times are always changing in the military he should know if he grew up arund it
I didn’t join the Army because the Recruiter lied and told me I could switch my MOS at any time in Basic. When I talked to the Marine Recruiter, he didn’t lie. He said it was gonna be complete trash being in the Marines, but you’ll meet life long friends. Then he told me Boot Camp won’t be the hardest part of the Marines. That got my interest, so I asked me older brother to validate if he lied. Nope, 3 years later into my contract. I do for sure hate it just like I was told. I don’t regret it one bit. 😃
Yea well my recruiter old LBJ told me I was fighting to keep VietNam free, so come on man.
Marines: I like how much this sucks
@@Wasker20233 It’s what we signed up for, you shouldn’t hate what you chose to do. If you cave in at even the most minor things such as permanent injury or death. You aren’t living your life in full.
@@tonkwas just a joke man
@@vietnamvet4533they are free lmfao from us 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Recruiters are like used car salesmen, they bend the truth or just lie to get you to sign the contract.
In my experience my Marine recruiters have been outstanding.
As an ex recruiter, I was often asked if a recruit could change her job if they didn’t like it. The answer is yes. It might be very difficult but you can change.
Hey I was just wondering how I should approach recruiters and where would I find them? Also I’m 17 can I talk to one?
@@VIP_Airsoft if they aren't already touring your school for new recruits then you can go to any branches website and apply. and yes you can be 17 to talk to them but to sign any paperwork you need parental permission.
@@shaunb986 so would I talk via email or phone?
@@VIP_Airsoft phone and then the nearst recruit station will get in contact with you and will schedule a in person meeting to talk more
Honestly, I’m a little mad. My recruiter did tell me that too. Only way out of 25U is by submitting a packet and praying to BDE, since we are under strength. Oh and I’m doing it for my reenlistment 🤦♂️
I am joining the U.S. Navy and when I was speaking to my recruiter and a Chief, they gave me 100% honesty, all the things you have said they have never did to me. They explained the process of changing jobs if I ever wanted to and told me where to find more info to study what they were telling me. I am proud to serve the U.S. Navy, knowing that my recruiter and Chief have my 6.
One thing many people don't understand and the only reason I did is I had former recruiters in my family (dad was a Marine recruiter in '76, brother-in-law was a recruiter in the late '90s), is that recruiters do NOT write up contracts. When the video author says get stuff in writing, be careful with that because if its the recruiters doing it, it means jack squat. When veterans say to get stuff in writing, this is at MEPS when you have gotten your physical, taken the ASVAB, and now sitting with a civilian at a desk and going over how long you wish to enlist for, which branch, and all that. This is where you want EVERYTHING in writing before you sign anything and BEFORE you raise your hand for the Oath of Enlistment.
When we say everything we mean EVERYTHING. Get that bonus locked in, starting rank, MOS, and even duty station if available. This is where it gets scary because as a young guy or girl you have to haggle.. probably for the first time in your life. That counselor is trying to fill in the most needed jobs for the branch they work for. Your desires, your wants, your needs are not on his radar. His first priority is to get you to sign a piece of paper and also to sign up to fill in the most needed jobs and places. The jobs no one wants are the jobs he needs to fill, keep that in mind. This guy will lie and scheme as well. He will tell you what you want to hear. He will try to get you to sign that paper and sign your life away.
But you have the power. At the end of the day, if you walk. He's in trouble. Your recruiter will be down his ass if you decide to walk away (since the recruiter loses credit). If you're hardballing, your recruiter will actually become one of your best allies. Let me explain how my situation went in 2006.
Before I even walked into my recruiters office, I knew what MOS I wanted. For me that was 25S, Satellite Communications. The MOS with the longest and most advanced school in the Army Signal Corps. Before then I had looked over several MOS's. 25B, 25N, 25P, and 25S. I didn't really have any idea what more to do there so I spoke with my sister who had joined in '89 (she's a tad older). She had experience as a 31U as her first MOS which is now 25U. She didn't know which one was satcom off the top of her head but she knew it had the longest school, so she told me to pick the one with the longest school. It also had the most requirements on ASVAB and at the time civilian education.
My Dad told me to make sure to work out getting the bonus and rank with my recruiter. So I went into my recruiter's office and told him, I want 25S, I want a sign on bonus, and I want two promotions (start off as an E3 instead of E1). So my recruiter put my packet together, did the background checks, got my college transcript (I had half of a 2 year degree by that point), and started scheduling me for the MEPS part (ASVAB and Physical). He warned me that it was going to be tough getting my MOS because of the requirements. He did a pretest for the ASVAB and I scored a 87 there. Which he said I would likely do better on the real one. I did, got a 96 ASVAB score, but more importantly I got a 130 GT and a 147 EL score (25S required a 120 EL, or electronics).
Then when it came to speaking to the counselor, things started hitting the fan. While 25S was a needed MOS, there was a few other signal MOSes that needed more and so he tried to sabotage my packet (remember what I said about scheming). He said that I didn't have the civilian education requirement, at the time it was an Algebra course. Well I was in college and had gotten maximum marks in my math courses and placement, so I didn't need algebra which is why it wasn't on the transcript. I tried to explain that the math courses I took had maths as prerequisites higher than algebra, but he wasn't hearing it.
So I called my recruiter, right there and told him I need my HS transcript. Understand this was 8pm at night. The HS I went to was in a different county, and I was 200 miles away in the state capital. Somehow.. someway, my recruiter pulled through and got the transcript faxed to the MEPS office. So I got my rank signed in, got my bonus I wanted, got the job I wanted.. but now the counselor wanted to ship me off in a few days.
I pulled a fast one and told him I wanted Delayed Entry. Mainly because my parents had a vacation trip planned and I wanted my graduation date to be after they got back from that. He was PISSED. But I had him by the balls. He had done all that work already and didn't want me to walk after all that. So that day I was entered into the IRR as a delayed entrant at the rank of Private E2, and two months later when I took the Oath of Enlistment, I was promoted to PFC E3 and went to basic training.
It sounds mean to do, and I agree. But remember, this is your life. Take it seriously. Its yours, and no one else's. If a counselor doesn't fill a needed MOS, he may get an ass chewing. Don't worry about them. Don't let them intimidate you. Worry about you and you alone in this process, this is your life. Do your research and take your time. Ask questions.
It also seems in my story that my recruiter was with me 100% This is kinda true. My recruiter was a former Marine Infantryman. He was a civilian recruiter during the mass recruit surge in 2006. He wasn't like most active duty recruiters. He point blank told me he had no idea what my MOS was. Not all recruiters will be like that. And he was only backing me because I made it very clear at the get go what I wanted and that I wasn't someone to be sweet talked. He was there to do my paperwork, and that is it. I made sure he knew that (in a polite and matter of fact way of course). All he had to do was get my packet in order, so his job was easy.
Writing a damn book report. Where’s the bluf?
@@michaelmatthias9495 😆
Jesus Christ bro you have too much free time
Thanks I needed this
I honestly can’t get over how long this is brother
Air Force recruiters are much different. They require you to make an appointment if you meet the requirements they'll tell you what you need to know and how to proceed but they will not pressure you and they will not contact you again after you leave the recruitment office unless you contact them again.
The airforce is basically civilians in uniform
Chair force
@@Domschataccountthat’s a great job. Don’t complain
@@Domschataccountoh damn .. sorry about that bro. If I don’t get my number one pick, then I should just refuse it right? Better than doing something I hate?
@@steeltiger1465hey don’t knock it. It’s in the name. We rarely get deployed. And if a future cyber warfare operator like me gets deployed… somethings not right. I think in such a scenario, we’d be at war.
My recruiter actually tried talking me out of joining😂 she made sure I was for real about joining and has not lied to me about anything yet.
Best thing i can say is have someone you know who is prior service accompany you to your first meeting with your recruiter. Helped me cut through all the BS immediately
What if we don’t have that
@lklg3549 research, the fact you're on this video shows you're doing the right thing and want to go in prepared. Your best bet is picking a job or multiple jobs and sticking with it, don't let the recruiter convince you otherwise. I can really only speak on being an army recruit though, I didn't sign anything until I got my desired MOS
I was talking with navy recruiters at my high school(even tho I have no intention of joining the navy)I was asking them questions about just why the navy and their life in the navy.The last question I asked them was “so what’s it like living in a boat ”😂,they just stared dead at me mad as shi,and I just busted out laughing.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao
Bruh 😂
penche paisita lmao
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I was a recruiter for the National guard in Texas, yes my job was to recruit but I always looked for the best option for my recruit, depending on what their needs were at the moment in near future. Is always good to ask a relative who has militar experience. I changed my MOS 4 times, 19K, 11B, 19D and 88M. You need a GT score of at least 100 or 110. Some MOSs require higher GT score. Enlisting in the US Army was the best decision of my life. If I go back in time I will do it again. If you don’t wanna be deployed then should stay a civilian. The military is to deploy at any ANY time. Is an experience only a few have the courage to do. All others decide to stay in the civilian world.
Can you decide not to Enlist when your at MEPs? Just to push it off for a few more months?
@@ethankestner7475 none can force you to sign but at the same time you don’t need to go to MEPS if you ain’t serious about enlisting. Just take the ASVAB, have you recruiter inform you of all your enlisting options based on your score and once you are serious about enlisting let your recruiter know. Keep in mind that enlisting option change for needs of the service and what you may qualify now may not be available in the near or far future. Good luck 🍀
If you haven't signed and taken the oath, then no they can't force you
Did you recruit George Bush, and tell him he was going to be a great President, like his father and Jimmy Carter all proud members of the military?
@@vietnamvet4533 you sir deserve and stupid answer but I’m better than that. I’m sure you know the answer to your question. Please grow up.
Never been in the military, but these things sound just like what I was promised when I signed up for college. A lot of promises that were either fake or behind very complex processes.
They even tried to sell me a master degree not long ago, and I was like “yo, I can’t even afford my student loan, and you want me to pay you even more?”
Don't stay away from here
This gives me a great appreciation for my recruiters. Navy recruiting office in Waltham Massachusetts is great. Completely upfront with you
I don’t know why I remember this, but during our first brief after getting off of the bus for Basic Training this Captain comes in and gives the really long speech. But two things I remember was “this is the time to admit if you lied on your paperwork to get into the Army” and “if any recruiter promised you bonuses, special treatment or other BS (edited for language LOL) they lied to you and this is your time to bust their asses” LMAO
I remember Air force recruiter told me it's just like call of duty, I knew bro was capping right there 😂😭✌🏻
when i finish usmc bootcamp will they let me quit after ?
@@GetRight-np6qm why join if ur gonna quit? You worked hard just to quit like that?
@@GetRight-np6qmlmao
It probably what you do in the air force there is special warfare.
@@GetRight-np6qmno after bootcamp you have to serve your enlistment unless you get discharged
Joining the Marine Corps was possibly the biggest mistake of my life. I went in half cocked in hopes of becoming a better version of me. I trusted my recruiter to the end. Halfway through training, I suffered a life threatening incident. I was dropped from my company. A month later, I called my recruiter and told him exactly what happened. What he said was generic and not helpful in the slightest. *RED FLAG.* I haven’t heard from him since. It took months to finally get separated from the military, and all that time I was treated like a recruit, even though I couldn’t go back to training. My word of advice? There’s NOTHING in that depot worth dying for.
Stop = think.
Side note: Conversely, had I joined any of the other branches, I would’ve never reached the same sense of accomplishment and satisfaction as the Marines.
Did you get medbord?
@@Fit_soldier yes
what was the life threatening incident? if i may ask. so i can be mindful and avoid that stuff. i go to meps tomorrow
I just graduated out of marine boot camp with Lima. Best decision of my life. I’m not surprised your recruiter or mrp (or whatever broken recruits go to) treated you still like a recruit. My buddy is in mrp and they don’t really care because you are still a recruit and if you get put into another company they have to treat you the same as everyone else. Sorry to hear about that hopefully all will go well in the future.
@@d33738On Saturday night of Swim Week, most of my vision faded into nothing. A few days later, I was picked up by an ambulance, then I found out I suffered a stroke.
Amazing vid. Id like to stress something as well. Anytime MEPS is offering you contracts, if its NOT the MOS you want DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING!! they will say that they dont have that job, bullshit.
Only sign a contract for you chosen MOS if you get a GUARANTEE IN WRITING.
My Navy recruiter was pretty honest with me cause i wanted Corpsman, he told me that its a very competitive field and to keep an open mind, but he said if i really wanted it, then just go for it.
Recruiters are like those guys that call you from the bank to offer you stuff. They are NOT calling you because they care about 'their great, super duper, important client', they call you to sell you stuff and get a comission,even if they have to twist the truth, or downright lie.
I had a marine corps recruiter try to tell me I would be marked for apathy and If I left I couldn't join any other branch, keep in mind I hadn't signed any papers I hadn't gone to MEPS, the only thing I did was PT and talking about joining. A few months later I sat down with an Air Force recruiter and said it was complete bs.
I’m currently an U.S. Army recruiter in nyc, even if I wanted to cap I couldn’t bc New Yorkers are skeptical out the gate. Please do your research, and don’t be lied too.
As a medic when we started training, I remember everyone upset bc their recruiter said they would be working in an hospital. I look back on that and continue to be straight with people who are interested.
So where would I be working if I were a medic? Because that’s what I’m doing for my AIT 😔
Bahahaha yes can 100% vouch for that one, my NY hubby trusts NO ONE 😂
In the Marine Corps for MOS changes, it basically works like this. It’s called a Lateral Move, this is because you can’t just change into any MOS. For Active contracts you must wait until it’s time to re-enlist, however for Reserve contracts you can activate for a AR contract after finishing MOS school and being assigned your primary station (but it’s basically like signing a re-enlistment contract).
So would you recommend a young person to join in as reserve instead of active? I don’t know how it works sorry loll
@@InstaMemesio Personally, I would not join the reserves unless you’re planning on joining the Air Force or Coast Guard. The most you’ll get from the reserve side of the Army or Navy is a tiny amount of tuition assistance & cheap health and dental care.
I really like and appreciate all the enlisted folks sharing their experiences.
This just got personal 4:45 - 5:05 😂
Keep being you, man. Good work!
😂😂😂😂😂
“that’s a fucking tank dawg” 😭😭😭
I for real had a recruiter at my high school tell me that even though I had in writing a guaranteed civilian job he was like “But is it really guaranteed?” I was like yes.. yes it is😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Civilian job can still not hire you. They’re not obligated by law.
Nor is the military, go with the civilian job
My local recruiters know they can't fool me. I've done EXTENSIVE research before talking to any of them 😂
Tips to research? I want to be prepared.
@@kungfupao2756 Which branch do you want to join? I'm joining the Army and the first thing I researched was what basic training was like. I suggest watching the 3 part series of shipping into Fort Jackson.
@@FamishedDrop922 air force
Reclassing or changing Mos can be hard if your specific unit is understaffed. If they are overstaffed it’s a lot easier. Also, NEVER take your recruiters word regardless on what they tell you. REMEMBER they get paid by incentives such as getting people enlisted. They will say anything for you to sign
According to an Army recruiter on here they don’t get any bonus other than a “good job” by their leadership
I’m a recruiter in VA, we don’t get incentives for putting someone in the Army.
You are 100% wrong. Recruiters DO NOT GET PAID BONUSES FOR THE NIMBER OF RECRUITS THEY PUT IN. That is a 100% lie. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, stay silent.
The worst lie mt recruiter told me was that she loved me and that she'd wait for me to come back from basic 😢
That didn’t happen.
😂😂😂😂
Cap
Love you ???????
😂😂😂
im glad that i found this, the army tried recruiting me saying some of the same things you mentioned in the video and he kept prying even when i said i didnt want to join
I tried watching Kyle Anderson video on this topic and just quit halfway (too much nerd humor for my taste). Then I saw your video and found it more informative. Thank you for being straightforward
0:56 (Once you’re in the military)
When you’re about to get out and talk to the career planner they’ll do the same shit and sweet talk to you even more. To re-enlist
I started Army Guard, transferred to Air Guard. The army tried to tell me the mos I wanted did not have enough slots. So I told them if I don’t get that mos, I’m going to talk to another branch. Couple days later, got a phone call that I got the mos I wanted. Still was lied to though on other stuff
It doesn't matter what branch of the military you want to join you can deploy in any of them.
I scored a high ASVAB and I received notice from the Navy recruiter about the Navy Nuclear Program. After two of three conversations and keeping my distance for about a year, I finally went to have a conversation about it.
He started honing in on my concerns about going the college route (due to money) and (later when I backed) when I brought up ROTC, he tried to scare me into thinking I wouldn't get in: complete bs.
But anyway, he started to talk me into immediately going along with the process of registration and MEPS. He started talking about me going to MEPS two weeks later, which threw me off.
Overall, seemed like a recruiter that could get me where I wanted to go, but was still a slimeball that tried to get me in before I could seemingly say no.
My recruiter gave me a whole speech on my wish list and where it sucks to be stationed and that you can't just quit and when my contract is for sure signed. Also, that sometimes it is going to suck, and he always shows visible stress when I visit the office and told me how my MOS could be changed at different stations and that the military can be like having a 9-5 just in some camo.
What branch did you joing bro?
I appreciate your videos brotha, I’ve been trying to join the army for months now and they keep taking a long time. Hopefully I can get in soon and start serving my country
I appreciate you 💯
Let me guess, ur trying to join CAF?
My husband is in the navy and im trying to join the military too. I was thinking about the Army and I started talking to a recruter but after many research I found out that being active duty can have an impact on my education ( I’m the medical field) so now I’m trying to talk to an national guard recruiter so I can have time for school.
You are wasting your time talking to a NG recruiter . Especially if your husband is active duty
@@jonathanwstx
Why though? You can always transfer units/states.
@@usarmyisthebest9193 not true your current command and state has to release you and the unit and different state has to accept your request to transfer! Do your real homework and stop assuming I’m in the guard 5+ yrs just cause you can do it doesn’t mean they will let you do it!! Key difference 😂 sorry to pop your little bubble of false perceived reality of what they tell you you can’t do and what you actually are able to do. Beat of luck.😅
Can you not do your civilian job in the Army? There’s the Army Civilian Skills Acquired Program
Hey man how’d it go? I’m Interested in medical field as well
Quitting is a easy as smoking and failing a drug test lol
Isn’t that dishonorable discharge?
@Carrymedadda Probably, yeah. But a dishonorable discharge is still a discharge, and if you're willing to smoke and fail a drug test, you really just want out, so you probably won't care about the loss of benefits.
Uh, dishonorable discharged is like a felony on your record, it will affect civilian job opportunities once you're out. Go ahead and do drugs if you want to be "that" guy and hve no quality of life. Meanwhile, it could take forever to process out while on rear detail, yo ass is still theirs in the meantime 😮
@@jennifermiller4557no you don’t jack ass you get a general discharge under honorable conditions ask me how I know.
@@Seth-vj8vm Like the other guy said, that's a TERRIBLE idea. A DD will follow you around for the rest of your life. If you wanna force the issue, over eat and don't exercise enough. If you play your cards right, you can get ejected with a failure to adapt, which IIRC is "other than honorable". You'll be wildly unhealthy, but you'll be able to pull jobs other than cooking, landscaping, or construction.
My recruiter was honest the entire time with me in fact I got more bonuses then I was expecting when I enlisted
Also they don't tell people who are interested in joining the military about your 8 year service with the military or any branch of it. I believe you agree to an obligation of a 3 or 6 years with your mos of choice than for the 5 or 2 years you'll be a on standby in the inactive reserve unit. Which mean they can take you back in if need be but only for the reminder of your 8 year contract after your 8 year contract is up your free. I got this info from a contacting lady at meps when I went on March 8th.
As someone who was stop-lossed in Iraq I can verify that is true.
My dad was stationed at Fort Drum. I unfortunately learned from the recruiter situation from my son stuff. He got out during AIT. His recruiter didn’t do all the paperwork stuff right. Now have two girls joining. Marines next year and think she decided navy this summer.
Im still in the recruitment phase and my MOS bonus is 40k for 6 years but the paper work says my term is 3 years with a 25k bonus and he told me its some error or something and at meps itll be fixed. I will DEFINITELY be checking that it is fixed. Theyve been pretty truthful and did a little manipulation but I personally am fully interested im joining so the manipulation was completely pointless lmao like nothing will deter me from this i just think its annoying that they do this.
It's not that the manipulation was pointless, its that it was easy because you are blinded by wanting to join. You should've raised your terms after that little stunt. Remember, he loses if you walk, and there's always another recruiter out there
Threaten to walk. Get your money. Remember you lose 30 percent of that off the top.
There's a ton of stuff that you can do with the Army. However, like this guy said in the video. Make sure to read your enlistment contract before signing. If you were promised a bonus, job, duty location, or school. It will be in that contract. If it is not in the contract, then you aren't getting it. I'm almost done with recruiting and get HRAPs thanking us all the time. They share horror stories of how other recruits were lied into a job or the Army in general. Also if your ASVAB score is garbage. Your options will be extremely limited. So don't score a 35 and think you're gonna be a cyber operations specialist.
What if I got a 98 on the asvab?
How much question Is on the AVAB?
@@imnotacat5299you can pretty much pick whatever you want.
that’s an amazing score
I hope the army doesn’t force you to take the videos down.
At the end of the day, keeping it real is the best recruiting tool for kids today. They’re not as naive as I and many of my generation was.
Most veterans today have a love-hate relationship with the army and their military service. The best thing we can do is mentor the young recruits, and guide them into knowing what to expect so that they’re not blindsided. Thanks for making these videos.
An hour before MEPS my recruiter hands me a packet saying I consent to being searched at MEPS medically and all that BS. Out of 20 items you had to sign they didn’t go over about 80%. However the first item on that list says you sign a delayed enlistment program, I told him I didn’t want to sign that one and he looked a little defeated. Read before you sign.
My Army recruiter literally supported my decision to wait until I graduate to begin the process. He said he tells his recruits who are currently in school to prioritize school over anything and begin the process before senior year is done.
I’ve heard all of these things😂 it’s so crazy hearing this from someone else. Thank you! Man, I was like “this seems too good to be true.” It is…it is😂
I never realized how manipulative recruiters can be until i saw stuff on tiktok. My recruiter was very upfront about everything and i did research, and everything he told me was true
In high school, I had an army recruiter swing by every week and took me and my best friend out to lunch. We were so close to signing paper work with him and then when I asked him what my friend's name was, he didn't know it after trying to be our "friends" for a few months. So I smelled the bullshit and we disassociated ourselves with him after that. lol
My Marine recruiter hasn’t mentioned bonuses or pay or literally anything. He’s pretty much just been saying like “there’s a lot of pride with the job, Learned good transferable skills, and I like my job” literally the only reason I’m even considering enlisting is because he’s straight with it.
I came to a recruiters office the other day saying I can change my jobs whenever and that I can stay away from a ship. Another things is that they said is that when you travel they pay for villas and 5 star hotels
Lol wtf
What jobs did he offer you? There are some naval jobs that don’t go on ships.
Look, heading into my recruiter’s office, I had already done my own research. I knew that I wanted the military and I knew what I was signing on for. I told my recruiters up front that I was going to join the military and just asked them to be honest with me. And they were. Everything that they’ve said has matched with my own research and my little bit of experience being in. I’m currently going through my “A” school to become an ETN in the Navy.
In the process of joining I go for my interview November 27th so this helps so much, the one thing I’m having issues with is like pre workout training before Basic but thank you for the advice!
Let’s work out together, I’m in the process of joining too
My relative in the army texted me trying to be overfriendly when i know he never is like that so i knew he wanted something from me. He said "hey, how are you doing" "Would you like to sit down and talk to an Army recruiter and see what options are available to you?" I said no im focusing on college no thank you, "you can come in to talk you won't have to sign a contract or anything" "it will help me alot" 💀💀💀
The only question I asked my recruiter is if I could retake my ASVAB because I BSed it in HS thinking the military was never something I would be interested in and the guy freaked out and was yelling at me saying I wasn’t committed to the AF like no shit bro I’m not tryna get stuck as a cook
My recruiter actually was the opposite & is patient. He is just there & goes with the flow. Awaiting to do the ASVAB again.
You can take it more than once if you don’t get a good score? I’m heading down to the usmc office tmmr just to get a date to take it
i almost went marines during Covid time, thank god I was sent away at MEPs to get a waiver, (couldn’t since there were no doctor appointments available at the time), my recruiter followed me around the city. He showed up at the beach to talk to me at the grocery store at my doorstep the day I got back from vacation(which I never told him I left for) very weird. I also was very misinformed at the time and since then have gained more knowledge and am hoping to get into contact with Army recruiters soon to learn even more.
It’s because the marines work slave hrs, 6-7 days a week, and their livelihood depends on getting people to join. Their career will literally be ruined if they aren’t doing well at recruiting.
Go air force
@@Yoursistersazz the Army is the best for career opportunities, promotion, and control over your own career.
@@michaelmatthias9495 The Air force has the best food, single person dorms, and only 7 weeks of basic training. Every Army guy I know is envious of the Air force, while I've never heard it the other way around. Plus, they aren't considered cannon fodder (not as much as the Army or Marines, at least).
@@WaylonElstad they’re envious because of what? Do you know they all go through the same damn culinary course? Do you know they’re all restricted when it comes to altering recipes? Get the Army guys you know to come here and explain why. The ONLY reason is because they can move out the barracks sooner. But promotion and actual career opportunities the Army trumps every branch
1:43 where he says people join thinking they have a bonus, a 100% true. I was graduating AIT and realized that others had, in writing, something stating that they had a bonus and I didn’t, after my recruiter told me more than once that I did.
Recruiters also hype up everything, I almost joined the Marines but after a recruiter said to me “think about this, who do you think they’ll hire first, me or some guy with a degree in electrical engineering ?” I kindly said “you” to be respectful but he had taken it too far 🤣🤣🤣
He’s not wrong
I am glad you made this video, I am currently 28 years old and I want to join the Army and do it as a career I already got a long list of MOS’s that I have researched and my top 3 so far is: 27D, 42A, and 92Y. I’ve already spoken to my recruiter who is a cool guy and I already know what I’m in for, I use to be in the JROTC back in high school. I only got three college course left to get my associates degree so with that and my JROTC experience I would be E-3 at BCT, but once Aaron I appreciate this video even though my mind is already made up about joining
Judging by your age and Mos choices I hope you are in excellent shape and can enjoy going to the gym after a stressful day at work. I became a 42a at age 30. The PT we do is garbage and I hate going to the gym or doing anything army on my free time.
I am 28 and I currently weight 264 but I’ve already signed up for the gym and overall I want to be 27D that’s my number 1, 42A, 68G, 92Y, 89B, 25B, 31E, 15P are just other options
if you get your associates degree you could enter the army as an e4 i just graduated osut as an infantryman at ft benning 22weeks long
I thought only people with a bachelors degree would only be ranked up as an E-4 because I been told plenty of times and research that I would be an E-3 if I have an Associates Degree and JROTC experience
@@ericfarrar9185 it is a bachelors
Also, sometimes it's best to be a reservist first because you can always go active if you like it.
Thank you for this info, I sent it to my little sister cause she wants to join the mil so hopefully this helps her stand her ground on the career she's looking for.
I got lucky enough to have a great recruiting office near me. They’ve been mostly truthful and where they weren’t, I compensated with my own research. They put their best efforts and put up with my annoying questions (bc I’m not trying to end up in infantry like hell no). They did try to set me up with other slots that weren’t remotely what I wanted but good to keep in mind. They were very much real with me and I appreciate the hell out of that. I did NOT have the same conversation with USAF recruiters. Army never guaranteed anything, never said you can’t/won’t/shouldn’t do a b or c. If my slot isn’t available, I know to wait (probably better off that way too).
Shout out to my local recruiters.
keep up the great job Aaron
It’s like making a deal with the Devil: they know you wouldn’t except the terms of you thought they weren’t fair
I'm currently looking into recruitment options since I'm graduating soon. I talked with Marine recruiters, then I did research on Marine boot camp. It doesn't seem like a good fit for me, so I'm going to look into the Air Force and Space Force next.
After seeing this video I have more confidence that my recruiter is giving me good information and that he’s acting in good faith. Good recruiters are out there!
If they say you can back out anytime and then hit you with you can go to jail for backing out that just contradicts them. That being said, About to go see a recruiter tomorrow lol
I wish you a great time
lol that was just the order of things I said in the video , recruiters aren’t gonna say all these things exactly just be on the look out
Lol thinking about 11b. I’ve been binge watching all you videos. Thanks for all the tips
How did it go
Sadly my recruiter lied to me about Veterancy status. I did six years in the Army guard and never deployed and only at year 5 did our Companies VA rep tell me that I needed Six years AND a deployment to get Vet status. I'll get VA loans and nothing else. I had gotten so many different answers over the years too smh.
Very well presented thank you.
I’m 19 , just got surgery on my knee and elbow and before all this happened I went and talked to a recruiter about joining the navy and he was gassing me up for what’s to come if I were to join. Luckily I failed the Meps test because I went not knowing if I truly wanted to spend 3 to 4 yrs of my life on a ship , but I am still considering it based off of dropping out of college and not having anything goin for myself that I find interest in , so Basically I’m on the fence there’s a good amount of pros but I also feel that there’s a lot more cons for some rsn and I just dk what to go with
I feel you im graduating hs in 7 months and am questioning college or army.
@@davidtheape6617 do both
@@davidtheape6617 don’t limit your options
Look man, the navy isn’t as bad it seems plus if you do good on the Asvab you’ll have plenty of job options plus different bonuses based on ur job I got a 25k for boot camp and another 10k after finishing school
@@BetterDays2004u can do both in army
My recruiter told me I probably couldn’t get the job I wanted and probably couldn’t get a option 40 because of my background and waivers. I got everything I wanted. 😅 I ship this week.
The videos are very informative I’ve been doing everything to study for the asvab in the Air Force and this has helped me ask myself questions I haven’t thought yet to ask
I had a Navy recruiter promise me based on my testing scores he promised I could be a Pilot and when asked him to put the guatenteee on paper he refused, he said he can't do that so I said then I can't sign your contract.
Oh darn! What ended up happening? Did the recruiter end up guaranteeing it?
@KungFuPao Nope he said he can't do that so I said no to signing his Contract I refuse to help him get his bonus when he lies to me.
@@randypennel3731 That sucks. Sorry to hear you got a bad one. Is that something you can guarantee on the contract? Wondering if I can tell this to my future recruiter.
@@kungfupao2756 absolutely
Need's of the Army. I reclassed three different times. It was a bit of a process, but it was during wartime so replacing was a little bit easier because of the jobs that I Reclassed too
I waited 2 1/2 years to sign as 31K (Dog Handler). I am telling you, the wait was definitely worth it.
I love the comment about going dental tech. There are tons of medical MOSs in the TO&E units to include infantry battalions. I taught in a medical AIT course and when I mentioned how many OR techs were assigned to an infantry division the class flipped out. I explained that a Field Hospital was not a real hospital I got that “my recruited said” 😆
I signed my contract 2 days ago. 3 year 91B (Wheeled vehicle mechanic) with airborne school after AIT. 9k bonus was all that was available. Didn't even think about getting preferred duty station in contract, hope that doesnt bite my ass later. Leave in 3 months
Broo i got the same contract, 91B, 9k bonus, shipping August 9
Do you like North Carolina?
How’s the MOS been treating you? I’ve been thinking of joining as a 91b also I’ve been wanting to learn a trade skill and mechanic caught my eye along with a few other MOS
@@_Kingdarkness it was hot, humid, and there were constantly gnats on us, trying to get in our ears and eyes.
@Bluedream97 I haven't really done anything yet that's 91B specifc other than the school. I graduated dec. 15th and have been here as a holdover waiting for airborne school. I leave tomorrow for it actually. As a 91B you'll end up learning how to work on basically everything mechanical over your career. If you like working on vehicles like i do, 91b is a good way to go.
They definitely make it seem like reclassify your MOS is easy peacy. Thanks for the look out 🤝🏽
Alot of the problem with recruiters lying doesn't help the narrative of getting people to serve, but this is also why people need to first take your time and research what branch you want to go in and what job do you want to do. I always tell people who are interested in going into the military to first, take a couple of days to think about your decision, and talk this over with your family as this decision will not only affect you, but it will affect them as well. Take as much time as needed and when you feel comfortable to go to the recruiter, take someone who has served at least 10 years and was at least a E5 pay grade with you when you talk to the recruiter. Alot of mistakes I see from people who served was they rush their decision, just jumped into the military and took the first job the recruiter offered them and they end up unhappy and are the first to blame the recruiter. YOU need to do your own research on what job you want to do and what branch you want to serve in. Make sure you are both physical and mentally ready because boot camp will break you down and build you up as they getting you transformed from being a civilian to being a servicemember. Which means if you are overweight, drop the weight as it will help you better. Understand they will be yelling at you in boot camp, but that's just to put you in a stressful situation to get you adjusted to military lifestyle. And once boootcamp is over, you are good to go, but I can't emphasize enough for people to first take your time and research and think on the decision to going in before even visiting the recruiter
Dude what happens if I feel underweight I’m 22 140 lbs and 5’7
@@martinquintanacardenas6008im like 5’8” 140 and I wouldn’t say that’s very underweight. As long as it’s a good 140 mostly muscle you’re fine but just try to put on some muscle that’s what I’m doing
good information. I tried contacting one and didn’t want to recruit me so now I have to find one with good intentions. Literally the marines is my golden ticket fr.
The whole reclassing thing is a major pain in the ass. The military discharged me rather than reclassing me. (Long story) Do your own research, the recruiter just wants you to sign.
As far as my recruiter said, they get in trouble for lying and promising things that are false
I want to be an officer because 1. That's my grandfather's expectation and 2. I wanna be a pilot. First time see my recruiter they tried to hide the fact that I can go to college for ROTC or even 4 years OTC for it, especially I got real high GPA, SAT, ACT enough to qualify for commission school scholarship. Made it to 6-5 in NAVY bootcamp and I called home, my grandfather told me that I can actually get out (4:24) and he'll help me do the ROTC thingy, what he didn't expect is that after I got out they gave me an RE-4...which I can't join military again forever -_-
😂 probably for the better. God has mysterious ways.
Taking my asvab in like 2 weeks!
Thank you for your videos! They help a lot! ❤🇺🇸
I talked to a navy recruiter to explore my options, but I knew I wanted to go in the army (my friends in the navy and she convinced me to just talk to him) he ended up telling me I wouldn’t have to go on a boat if I chose a land only job (I despise the ocean), along with a bunch of other stuff to talk the navy up that just wasn’t true. Like i get it’s your job but you could at least be honest man
when i finish usmc bootcamp will they let me quit after ?
Great Advise--Thank you for giving younger people the Head's Up.
One more thing I can add… Do NOT sign an x-ray contract. If you want 11B, sign an 11B contract. Don’t let the Army choose for you.
Please don’t comment if you don’t know what you’re talking about. You cannot sign an “11b” contract unless you’re going reserve or National guard, where they’re filling specific slots.
The only difference between a Charlie and a bravo, training wise, is additional training for the Charlie. A Charlie can 4187 themselves into a bravo if they get support from their coc.
@@michaelmatthias9495 I’m a former active duty infantryman and that’s definitely not how it worked when I went through. There were 11B, 11C, 11H, 11M, etc. If one has a ranger contract, for example, their MOS will be an 11B. And I’ve never heard of a reserve or national guard ranger battalion. I was an 11M because I didn’t know not to sign an X-ray contract. So the point of my comment was to inform people into NOT signing a bullshit contract that isn’t in line with their plans. And if you have to put in a 4187 to get your desired MOS designation, you’ve fucked up.
@@monkeysweeperguitar there’s only 11x, 11b, c, and Z now.
I’m not talking about an option 40 contract, just infantry. Rangers are only RA. You cannot get 11B in an active duty contract so telling someone not to sign unless they get 11b in writing will NEVER happen. A 4187 from 11c to 11b doesn’t require going to any additional training so unless they desperately need Charlie’s it shouldn’t be a major issue after completing your initial time in headquarters.
@@michaelmatthias9495 if 11b exists, then they should be able to get that while signing a contract. Not saying you’re wrong, but what’s the point of 11x if there’s only one other destination available at the recruit level? Why not make everyone a chuck and fill in bravo positions where needed? Doesn’t make any sense. Plus… if someone’s about to walk, and not sign a contract, the person at MEPS is likely to do some paperwork gymnastics in order to get a signature. Sorry, doesn’t make any sense.
@@monkeysweeperguitar doesn’t need to make sense. That’s how it works. You join as infantry recruit and get needs of the Army into 11b or 11c. Unless you’re NG or AR because they sign a contract for a specific vacancy within those units.
I've talked to my recruiter about these before ever seeing the video and he has been honest about a lot of things he is pretty honest at the same time i want to be there i am trying my hardest to get in
Yes, I noticed these mfs be lying out their asses bro. "Oh yOuRe nEvER gOing tO GeT dEPlOYed"
😐 Bro.
There are no correlations in the Army. Just because you're dental support doesn't mean you wont deploy and just because you're a graduate of a battle hardened tested and trued combat killer school does not mean you'll deploy too. Just because you passed the ASVAB several times doesnt mean its a sign of incompetence either, right?
You just don't quit the Military, it's called desertion. You go where the military tells you to go. In '73 after I took the oath, the first words out of the officers mouth was, you are now part of the US military and if you run we will sent federal marshals after you. I was 18 and I wondered just what I got myself into, I found out.
Several good points. I've had some good recruiters in my time but there are some shady ones too. One of the best things you can do is educate yourself and verify what the recruiter tells you with other sources. Read the regs yourself.
Thank god my recruiter hasn't lied to me, She has sat with me for hours discussing every detail, I didn't have many questions though because I did 4 months of research on my own, and have a bunch of military buddies. So there was no way she could lie to me, She constantly texted me through MEPS making sure everyone was nice to me and making sure the MEPS process was as smooth as possible for me, On top of that She tried to get to know me as a person, and Just asked me questions about my interests, and I had a coworker who was being creepy so she wrote up a day off note, so I would not have to deal with him what so ever. She told me she has no problem with me as a recruit because I know what I am doing and some come in without proper research and training.
I've made it through MEPS, took my asvab just waiting for my hearing waiver, then I swear in. I am going to the navy, she told me also that they are going to try to push for me to get specific jobs, and not to pick those jobs and to choose what I would like to do. I am hoping for a logistics specialist, and I hope I can ship out in January!!!
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Thank you for serving.
The marine recruiters knocking on my parents door every other day in high school😂
Navy usually does not have this problem (IF YOUR RECRUITER ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THEIR RECRUITS!) I had a scholarship coming and mine told me “I think you should take the scholarship if it goes through, the military will always be here when you return, & you could get an even better job”. She NEVER steered me wrong, nor did any of the other PO’s. Even though (if you don’t know, enlisted recruiters are different from officer recruiters). Some Army recruiters are decent too.
i was told i would get a 30k bonus, i got 0
I had a recruiter recently that was constantly using obviously empty threats to get me to sign.
It was concerning enough that I decided to stop the process. He told me I would have a permanent record and that I will never find work in the state/federal level.
All I did was ask for a waiver for a 3 year old mental health record. Not got my MoS either and even the officer at MEPS was calling that recruiter out.