FYI: The earlier footage is that of China. The train crosses the Yalu river (border between China and North Korea) from 3:45 to 5:00. And the desolation of the North Korean side, compared to the Chinese side, is breathtaking.
@@lielsmetejs I live in a post-communist country. The monuments are never in such place, near the platform on tracks that can be used for maneuvers. Usually, there is one locomotive on a track that is not used anymore, near the station building, so it can be seen from the street. These steam locomotives are so strange coupled like that. I think they are stored to use in the future if needed, we can see more modern diesiels manuvering behind them. These locos don't look like a monument at all, but also they don't look like used commonly.
simferpol They have removed the coupling rods so they wont be much useful as auxiliary engines. In the 50'ies and 60'ies in Denmark we used old steam locomotives as stationary heaters for passenger cars so they would remain warm and ready for service when they were not on duty. We also removed the coupling rods so we could shunt them around easy if we needed them elsewhere. some could be used for that purpose, others could just be stored.
Yeah I caught it too! This is some wild remake! I Wonder if it is diesel and electric, or fully converted to electric! Yeah those are M-62 Soviet/Russian diesels. They were export ed into many countries back in the days.
The M62 were available as double locos too. They were nicknamed Gagarin, there were many of them in Moldova, Ukraine, Hungary, Eastern Germany etc. I didn't notice the modified locomotive, it still has the vent grill, they must have removed the main generator completely
@@djmk1988 I never said they were built in Germany! Yes, they were made in the USSR and were exported to countries like East Germany, Poland or Hungary! Edit: The Ludmilla is a different diesel train which also was in use with the DR! The V200s had the nickname "Taigatrommel" (Taiga drum)
I've been to Dandong a bunch of times, but only in the past few years. The difference when they're pulling out of the station is amazing (to say nothing of the station itself).
@@michaelmayfield4304 🤣 when you, all propaganda's children will end?) Better open your eyes, wash from president's shit and find the very huge difference between "Stalag" (science, medicine, education, military grow) from "USag" (2x wars in Iraq, Siria, Libia, Japan, Venezuela, Ukraine, China, sanctions, attacks, chemical and biological experiments and laboratories worldwide, financial pressure, etc) Do you hear the world cry, you, "free" credited person who sold everything in your life for better "eco" salad in your white plate you bought made by 10-15 y.o. kids!?! Hear!? "Stalag" was to break that system and build new free society, free of your president's shit. That's why your leaders against it - they could lose their dominion.
Just like most countries, China too has diesel stock, the newest dating from 2016 (HXN5K and HXN6 engines). Diesel traction is not uncommon in the world at all, particularly not on border crossing lines due to different voltage on the overhead wires in different countries, as is the case with China (25kV) and North-Korea (3kV). Multi-current rolling stock is now often used in Europe, where many different voltages exist (sometimes even within the same country), but I can imagine this solution was deemed too expensive here (multi-current rolling stock is still relatively new and North-Korea's stock is mainly second hand), especially considering that diesel traction for cross-border operation is fairly common still in most places outside Europe.
@@chrispaw1 Only two countries in Africa surpass USD$10,000 in GDP per capita. Among the rest, half are below USD$10,000. North Korea at least has clean infrastructure and logistics from its pre-1994 glory days. They have a GDP per capita that is above half of Africa.
@@koryoball you’re an idiot if you think that. north koreas infrastructure is terrible. buildings are run down, they have no electricity for the majority of the day, roads are bumpy and destroyed, ect ect ect. tourists are only shown the best parts of the country, aka the capital where the so called «rich» live. also, you dont need 10.000 dollars to live decent in africa, 10k is worth a lot more there than in america. this is a dictatorship, people are starving and being thrown into prison camps for basically no reason. the average life expectancy is 70, meanwhile everywhere else it’s 80 or more. this is like the holocaust, and people like you still think it’s better than africa. you’re a joke dude
not suprising so much. They bought all the locos in Soviet union and in Czechoslovakia. Their students of technology took lessons in Czechoslovakia back in 60-80s, lots of well developed technologies came there from Russia or Czechoslovakia in 70s-80s. They use old russian buses, czech trams and trolley buses.
Nice to see four steam locos stored at a main line station! They must've been sitting there for a while with no plans for steaming up soon since their rods are removed!
Я тоже заметил! Какой странный аппарат. Правда возможно это просто корпус Машки, а внутри переоборудовано в электровоз. Возможно с апаратурой от ВЛ23. Или их собственный самопал. Сомневаюсь что это двухсистемник - дизель и электричесский. Там просто места для всего оборудования не хватит.
Я то же заметил этот аппарат. Как то видел видео где с Украины, там у ЧМухи то же пантограф... Задал вопрос, что за агрегат, мне ответили эта приспособа чистить контактный провод, то есть этим маневровым с пантографом там чистят контактный провод. Здесь же на это что то не похоже....
@@digimaks скорее всего дизель убрали, а вместо него электрооборудование от электровоза поставили. Кстати, это не изобретение корейцев: известно, что в Азербайджане существовал 2М62, переоборудованный в электровоз.
What year is it there? 1940? Such an undeveloped and devastated land. I could die just by watching it through a screen frame... So creepy and shockingly sad indeed.
The picture of NK is not that bad actually assuming that what's depicted here belongs to the most remote and poorest parts of the DPRK. Traditionally Korean provinces located along the border lived significantly worse than the rest of the country and it's still so in the North.
Houses do look quite new, keeping in mind that its obviously winter it all looks much nicer than I would have thought. Leaving broken engines in the station is the only thing that looks really weird - then again, in a non-market driven system there is probably not much need to make a station look nice...
@@captainboggles Lol yeah...but the video only shows a single platform in NK - so hard to say if trains are more frequently used...My guess would be that there are no private cars and public transport might be used quite a lot...
Notice the almost complete absence of automobiles, or indeed motorized vehicles of any kind. In 6 minutes, I spotted exactly one, despite passing several roads.
They railroad personnel are considered - military/vital infrastructure. Just like in Soviet Union, the railroad was and in Russia still is regarded as strategic importance. Back in World War 2 and after - Soviet Railroad even had their own subordination and ranks! Around 70's-80's it got relaxed I guess NK still use that on railroad.
Yeah a bit grey. in Soviet Union they at least made beautiful murals and mosaics? and planted evergreen trees to make places look comfortable and appealing to the eye.
Very unhealthy smoggy air, a bleak landscape, crumbling buildings and infrastructure, tyrannical leadership and not enough food. 7:00 onwards just looks like the epitome of unhappiness. :(
Funny what happens when the country with the largest military budget bombs the crap out of another much weaker country (and still didn’t force them to surrender) and then further punishes that country by imposing sanctions that doesn’t allow that weaker country to trade with other countries as it had previously been doing before the Korean (War) police action. I imagine that if the Vietnam “conflict” had ended in a draw, North Vietnam would have suffered the same fate as North Korea. The U.S.A. does not like to lose, particularly when their opponent has 1/1000 the military budget so they “pout” by sanctioning the poorer nation (Cuba, Iran etc.) forcing poverty upon their civilian populations. Imagine another country telling the U.S.A. that they were not allowed to trade with any other country? Of course you can’t imagine that. It is unthinkable. But somehow it is okay for the U.S. government to impose sanctions on the least powerful countries simply because they do not fall in line with their thinking. Shouldn’t the richest most militarily powerful nation in world history (so far) also be the most benevolent?
@@gwarlow We also pretend to hate dictatorships, and yet we trade with a third of them (i.e: Saudi Arabia, Jordan, UAE, etc.). We also give full financial support AND free healthcare to Israel while banning BDS. Are we really a free social democracy?
I see lots of Chinese and Russian/Soviet locomotives. Not sure about the passenger cars, are those Soviet imports from the past or Chinese copy of Soviet/German "Ammendorf" coaches. Most of the freight cars look Chinese, and few look old Soviet models. But the steam engines look like American "Decapod" or Chinese copy - they seems to be retired - no/incomplete rods on wheels.
@@Thursdaym2 In the video you can see people FISHING on ice! DUUUUH! Of course it's winter and cold enough for water to freeze. I find it some people being ridiculous with their unnecessary bashing on NK. Sure many of aspects of the country is not the best as ours, but that's none of your business really.
Yes. I understand your point. This is cuz Propaganda is intended to be used by carefully choosing images to convince us how horrendous Korea is. But Korea is the same as any country. It has nice things and ugly things. Just like we have it here at home. By the way, there is NO North Korea; There is only one Korea... what is south of the Peninsula, is NOT a country. It is a US Military Base. One more Base, of the almost 800 Bases that we have scattered around the world.
@@salvadorvizcarra769 then tell me why all former "free" soviet zone wanted to get "opressed" and join the western civilisation ? Do you know why, comrade ?
@@Statek63 That's Propaganda, comrade. All the Republics that formed the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics are SOCIALIST. But, I cannot argue with you on this point, since you DO NOT know what Socialism is, right, comrade? You are one of the people who confuses the word: Communism, with the word: Dictatorship. And also of those who confuse the word Freedom with the word Democracy. And no. Are NOT the same, comrade. You are confused cuz U want it that way. Today we live in the Age of Globalized Information. It is within the reach of a keyboard to know everything, analyze the FACTS, verify the points of view. To Check. To debate. But you are not willing to do any of that. You just keep what Propagamda tells you, right, comrade?
It might look poor, with nobody driving cars and just about everybody on foot or on a bike, but look at those blocks of flats. I bet there aren't homeless slums like in the US. Also you have to remember NK is one of the most isolated countries in the world, not getting much imports (or even train traffic, like the train taken here), how would other countries look without imports? The rusting, partly disassembled locomotives are just part of that, moving them would require power, and you have to do it somewhere (if you're not filthy rich and let them rust where they're parked, like they'd do it in the US), so why not where they stopped after delivering their last load, at the border? Makes perfect sense from a poor country's economic priorities.
@@Isochest You're right, we should take the time to think about responding appropriately to each other's comments: so I think the 3 years it took you to reply is totally fine. 😂👍
Even the Chinese side looked pretty grim. But North Korea, everything is so grey & drab, even the people. And what is it with the bicycles in the ice??
I wonder what the North Koreans think when they see Dandong so brightly lit at night, with music, heavy traffic, people out having fun. Whether they can maybe hear conversations drifting across the water, and so on.
Min. 6:46 prawa strona. Lokomotywa M62 importowana z Polski (nasza seria ST-44). U nich jest to seria 800. Egzemplarze importowane z byłego NRD to seria 700. A nówki z ZSRR; 600 - 65 sztuk.
7:32 - WOW What a rare view!!! This is Soviet M-62 diesel locomotive, but they added electric pantographs to it. Could it be that this is hybrid diesel/electric !
It had no fuel tank, they seemed to have removed it. So fully electric. Considering they work on 3kV DC, this is probably a comparatively easy conversation.
0:16 We start off the video with six soldiers marching in single file towards the cameraman. The front soldier appears to not have hands, or is concealing them above white gloves stuffed with cotton.
A bit of a wild guess, but you might have spotted something there! Perhaps he is holding a gun up his sleeve (ready to shoot someone crossing the border without permission) and the hands are fake. As I'm sure you know, the Chinese government likes shooting people, but perhaps they don't it to be too obvious.
@@evaluateanalysis7974 Right on! I also think he's concealing and ready to shoot. What good is a soldier with no hands? ...North Korea would beg to differ I reckon. I didn't go deep into checking to see if he had "extra long forearms", but it would solve the mystery.
oh naughty, naughty. . . . They got the finger waggle of disapproval 2:26. I wonder if it's questionable to film in a train station or if that locomotive is considered to be a military vehicle. Over here in the UK you'd get a £200-£1500 fine if you film on Rail Network grounds with a tripod. Without one though it's free.
Do you think you live in the best country in the world? Here in the US: "The best country in the world" now 60 million people living below the poverty line. (And about the 19 million addicts, homeless and the millions of sentenced prisoners). Mr. Glinis, we have the highest incarceration rate in the world. More than Nicaragua, El Salvador, Cuba, Thailand, Korea and China combined. Our rate is almost 5 times the OECD average. I am concerned that "The best country in the world" is in 29th place with respect to the number of medics (doctors) in the planet. I am concerned that we not distinguish between private wealth (1.7%), and public misery (almost 35%). It worries me that NOW.
@@SuperMikeC65 I'm sorry to tell you that poverty is the same everywhere. But, MISERY is something very different. In the US we see millions of citizens living in misery. Looking in the trash for something to survive on. Living in canvas houses or sleeping on the streets. In Korea there are very poor people, but living in a very dignified humility and not living in misery. And this, you know very well.
@@SuperMikeC65 Please write here: MISERY IN THE USA. You will find on UTube a good amount of videos that show that face of the US that you want to hide from the world. One video in particular, the most objective and serious is: "49 Most Miserable American Cities" Please take 9 minutes and analyze it. You can continue deny this reality, but you cannot hide this reality forever. I recommend the Mr. Michael Moore Documentaries.
2:06 - Looks like an export modification of the Hungarian diesel locomotive M62 built for the USSR. I believe the DPRK version is designated as the K62.
@@digimaks You're right. I was confused because the prefix M is Hungarian since the model was originally an exclusive order for Hungary in the early 60s.
Old West? Hardly - the basic design is from the 1920s, but probably built much later, in the Fifties or Sixties. China was building similar locomotives up to 1980s at least and in use in some places until a few years ago.
FYI: The earlier footage is that of China. The train crosses the Yalu river (border between China and North Korea) from 3:45 to 5:00. And the desolation of the North Korean side, compared to the Chinese side, is breathtaking.
looks a lot like East St. Louis lol.
I'd say heartbreaking
The UK 2028 after Brexshit
It just looks more rural
@popo3365 oh aye we will do another vote a vote to leave the rotten corrupt UK.
The steam locos in this vid were all missing their coupling rods, i.e. out of service
Retired
The one at 10:44 looks to retain them.
@@Reddsoldier mayor parts are missing, just like the others it’s unable to drive
Probably just sitting around or they are moving to be scrapped
where did they even get steam engines
I think we've finally found a rail network that the US can compete against.
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@@kishore369 You kidding?😂 China and Japan has the best railways in the world.
LOL
America's freight train game is on POINT, but the passenger trains... Oh god no...
They sure like to show off their abandoned steam locomotives: right next to the train station. Such pride!
Abandoned?
These are monuments. A common tradition in post-socialistic countries - to put an old locomotive in front of a station, maybe even on a square.
@@lielsmetejs I live in a post-communist country. The monuments are never in such place, near the platform on tracks that can be used for maneuvers. Usually, there is one locomotive on a track that is not used anymore, near the station building, so it can be seen from the street. These steam locomotives are so strange coupled like that. I think they are stored to use in the future if needed, we can see more modern diesiels manuvering behind them. These locos don't look like a monument at all, but also they don't look like used commonly.
I think the steam engines must be kept as auxiliaries in case of power failures, which have been common there in the recent past.
simferpol They have removed the coupling rods so they wont be much useful as auxiliary engines. In the 50'ies and 60'ies in Denmark we used old steam locomotives as stationary heaters for passenger cars so they would remain warm and ready for service when they were not on duty. We also removed the coupling rods so we could shunt them around easy if we needed them elsewhere. some could be used for that purpose, others could just be stored.
Military here, military there, military everywhere.
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No, no. Usa here, usa there, usa everyhere.
Хуго Ялава no brainwashed Russians here, brainwashed Russians there, brainwashed Russians everywhere
@@apo5895 Lmao, implying your kind immune from propaganda either
Just like the USA the USA is the largest prison
7:33 That's an ex-Soviet M62 diesel that has been rebuilt to electric locomotive (notice the pantographs).
Yeah I caught it too! This is some wild remake! I Wonder if it is diesel and electric, or fully converted to electric!
Yeah those are M-62 Soviet/Russian diesels. They were export ed into many countries back in the days.
They look to be from the same manufacturer as the V200 of the East German Reichsbahn
@@spongebubatz Not a chance. All Russian made. Russians even exported to Germany, some big diesel electrics nicknamed Ludmilla
The M62 were available as double locos too. They were nicknamed Gagarin, there were many of them in Moldova, Ukraine, Hungary, Eastern Germany etc. I didn't notice the modified locomotive, it still has the vent grill, they must have removed the main generator completely
@@djmk1988 I never said they were built in Germany! Yes, they were made in the USSR and were exported to countries like East Germany, Poland or Hungary!
Edit: The Ludmilla is a different diesel train which also was in use with the DR! The V200s had the nickname "Taigatrommel" (Taiga drum)
This area in Dandong has changed so much. They rebuilt everything.
Who rebuilt everything? Not North Koreans. Have you seen the equipment they have, not even got wheelbarrows.
@@Thursdaym2 dandong is in china you fucking idiot
I've been to Dandong a bunch of times, but only in the past few years. The difference when they're pulling out of the station is amazing (to say nothing of the station itself).
Meanwhile on the other side of the river in North Korea, everything looks like it was built in the 1950s and has never been rebuilt.
@@Thursdaym2 bro how do you get ratio’d in a UA-cam comment section
God how depressing. Can you imagine if you’re North Korean and your going back to North Kiorea from China
Yea China is terrible enough and then you see even worse place than China.
@@tongobong1 bruh china aint terrible smh talk to people from china
@Norbert Janz are you fuking kidding ?
@@C20F Yes but China is just crawling with Chinese chicks.
Welcome! Welcome to City 17
did you mean Stalag 17 ?
You have chosen, or been chosen to relocate to one of our finest remaining urban centers.
First Stop, find Barney and pick up crowbar...
Pickup that can
@@michaelmayfield4304 🤣 when you, all propaganda's children will end?) Better open your eyes, wash from president's shit and find the very huge difference between "Stalag" (science, medicine, education, military grow) from "USag" (2x wars in Iraq, Siria, Libia, Japan, Venezuela, Ukraine, China, sanctions, attacks, chemical and biological experiments and laboratories worldwide, financial pressure, etc) Do you hear the world cry, you, "free" credited person who sold everything in your life for better "eco" salad in your white plate you bought made by 10-15 y.o. kids!?! Hear!? "Stalag" was to break that system and build new free society, free of your president's shit. That's why your leaders against it - they could lose their dominion.
It looks like the 60's.
This is how the socialism works..
Sure is.
No, 50's
It looks like Amerika now. And is there a Pyongyang to Yangpyong run to Uncle Joe's house?
@@dominikpospisil486 and capitalism works in the same way only with a little larger upper class but the same problems.
As someone that frequently visits China, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a Diesel engine. Says a lot about North Korea.
I mean the world is full of diesel trains. What is your point?
Come to Denmark. Most of the intercity traffic is still diesel.
Malaysia have diesel trains as well. As well as many south east asian countries.
Just like most countries, China too has diesel stock, the newest dating from 2016 (HXN5K and HXN6 engines). Diesel traction is not uncommon in the world at all, particularly not on border crossing lines due to different voltage on the overhead wires in different countries, as is the case with China (25kV) and North-Korea (3kV). Multi-current rolling stock is now often used in Europe, where many different voltages exist (sometimes even within the same country), but I can imagine this solution was deemed too expensive here (multi-current rolling stock is still relatively new and North-Korea's stock is mainly second hand), especially considering that diesel traction for cross-border operation is fairly common still in most places outside Europe.
You mean coal engine 😁
If that doesn't look poor to you, I don't know what does.
Africa.
BlahBlahBlah Africa hasn’t been poor for 20 years or more. Its not the 1980’s you know. Most African countries are no longer regarded as poor.
@@chrispaw1 Only two countries in Africa surpass USD$10,000 in GDP per capita. Among the rest, half are below USD$10,000. North Korea at least has clean infrastructure and logistics from its pre-1994 glory days. They have a GDP per capita that is above half of Africa.
@@koryoball you’re an idiot if you think that. north koreas infrastructure is terrible. buildings are run down, they have no electricity for the majority of the day, roads are bumpy and destroyed, ect ect ect. tourists are only shown the best parts of the country, aka the capital where the so called «rich» live. also, you dont need 10.000 dollars to live decent in africa, 10k is worth a lot more there than in america. this is a dictatorship, people are starving and being thrown into prison camps for basically no reason. the average life expectancy is 70, meanwhile everywhere else it’s 80 or more. this is like the holocaust, and people like you still think it’s better than africa. you’re a joke dude
@@tropicalslav931 still MUCH better than north korea, and you can’t argue against that
The loco which is pulling the train is the Taiga Trommel, called M62 Sergej in Hungary, and they are still in service here too.
not suprising so much. They bought all the locos in Soviet union and in Czechoslovakia. Their students of technology took lessons in Czechoslovakia back in 60-80s, lots of well developed technologies came there from Russia or Czechoslovakia in 70s-80s. They use old russian buses, czech trams and trolley buses.
Wow. Old Soviet Russia looked better than this. Oh, and I love the old locomotives, probably built in the early part of the 20th century.
Looks like imported American steamers, or Chinese copy.
@@digimaks they are old soviet locomotives from the SO series. All the locomotives i seen in this clip are Russian
I've heard that a lot of their rolling stock is left over from the Japanese occupation.
That guy was tapping everything but the wheels
And read the description. The train started from China,
Does anybody travel to North Korea in the summer months? I’ve yet to see a green tree in any of these videos.
There’s no summer in the DPRK.
2:27 I'm assuming you were too close? Or was it illegal to film?
AGS-Guy I think he passed the white line at the platform
White line violation
2:28 Look's like the green man is angry
@@theimpostor9510 green sus
@@AGSGuy Okay
6:48 M62 look like ex PKP, ca. 2000 - 2001 Poland sold 7 lok ST44 (M62) to North Korea.
Gagarin ;)
The bucket headlights give it away.
Nice to see four steam locos stored at a main line station! They must've been sitting there for a while with no plans for steaming up soon since their rods are removed!
This is called - "retired".
0:56 trust me I'm a engineer.
That's a standard procedure AFAIK.
This is actually really cool seeing old equipment still in use!
Not cool. RÜCKSTÄNDIG!!!
It is cool :P
0:14 getting flashbacks of grenzbanhöfe in the german dived(yes they patrolled the platforms with PRIMED guns)
Ого Машка с пантографом, это нечто)
Я тоже заметил! Какой странный аппарат. Правда возможно это просто корпус Машки, а внутри переоборудовано в электровоз. Возможно с апаратурой от ВЛ23. Или их собственный самопал. Сомневаюсь что это двухсистемник - дизель и электричесский. Там просто места для всего оборудования не хватит.
Что Машки, что паровозы, до сих пор и у нас работают))
Я то же заметил этот аппарат. Как то видел видео где с Украины, там у ЧМухи то же пантограф... Задал вопрос, что за агрегат, мне ответили эта приспособа чистить контактный провод, то есть этим маневровым с пантографом там чистят контактный провод. Здесь же на это что то не похоже....
@@digimaks это обычная Машка с демонтированным дизелем.
@@digimaks скорее всего дизель убрали, а вместо него электрооборудование от электровоза поставили. Кстати, это не изобретение корейцев: известно, что в Азербайджане существовал 2М62, переоборудованный в электровоз.
What year is it there? 1940? Such an undeveloped and devastated land. I could die just by watching it through a screen frame... So creepy and shockingly sad indeed.
Gives me the chills as that bridge is crossed knowing I'm entering NK.
I had a very ominous feeling as I took the train there 2 years ago. Everything was silent apart from the clank clank of the train
Thank you for this amazing video!
The picture of NK is not that bad actually assuming that what's depicted here belongs to the most remote and poorest parts of the DPRK. Traditionally Korean provinces located along the border lived significantly worse than the rest of the country and it's still so in the North.
All the steam locos in this video look like they ran fairly recently and were retired not long ago. Pretty crazy.
NK has coal, but not oil
This footage is from 2002, from a documentary film.
10:03 What are all those folks doing there? Are they trying to fish?
Ice fishing. They make a hole in the ice and try their luck. I saw the same in russia.
Based on the music playing at the station, I believe they will go crazy for Kenny G.
But what down did you leave from?
Houses do look quite new, keeping in mind that its obviously winter it all looks much nicer than I would have thought. Leaving broken engines in the station is the only thing that looks really weird - then again, in a non-market driven system there is probably not much need to make a station look nice...
certainly uncluttered by passengers
@@captainboggles Lol yeah...but the video only shows a single platform in NK - so hard to say if trains are more frequently used...My guess would be that there are no private cars and public transport might be used quite a lot...
Notice the almost complete absence of automobiles, or indeed motorized vehicles of any kind. In 6 minutes, I spotted exactly one, despite passing several roads.
absence of freedom
bc they have train and other public transport ???
When was this recorded??
@Tazzor 2002 if to be presice
This, it seems was filmed in late 80's or early 90's. Many changes since then.
I've seen a couple of the train video's can anybody tell me why so much military presence.
If like 5% of the population is in the military or para military service and citizens hardly go by train, this is the pics you get.
Probably because NK is all about military.
They are also technically at worth with South korea
They railroad personnel are considered - military/vital infrastructure. Just like in Soviet Union, the railroad was and in Russia still is regarded as strategic importance. Back in World War 2 and after - Soviet Railroad even had their own subordination and ranks! Around 70's-80's it got relaxed
I guess NK still use that on railroad.
SK and US threat. That is the explanation. They wanted NK to be ruined down
I'd love to paint everything some cheery colors.
Same. That place needs graffiti.
The cities are all painted bright pastels
Go to Gulag
Yeah a bit grey. in Soviet Union they at least made beautiful murals and mosaics? and planted evergreen trees to make places look comfortable and appealing to the eye.
Winny the poo yellow perhaps?
Very unhealthy smoggy air, a bleak landscape, crumbling buildings and infrastructure, tyrannical leadership and not enough food. 7:00 onwards just looks like the epitome of unhappiness. :(
Those are the sights I see everyday in lancashire
Can’t tell the difference between North Korea and Crewe
@@CallumBlyth learn your geography. Crewe is in Cheshire.
Get a lot of coolies working in Lancashire rice paddies, do you?
@@ArmyJames Lancashire doesn't have rice paddies, moron
Why have you repeated the clip around 6.33 again around 10.48? All you have done is to slow it down.
chanctonbury63
God, it’s even more dreary and depressing than I imagined.
Funny what happens when the country with the largest military budget bombs the crap out of another much weaker country (and still didn’t force them to surrender) and then further punishes that country by imposing sanctions that doesn’t allow that weaker country to trade with other countries as it had previously been doing before the Korean (War) police action. I imagine that if the Vietnam “conflict” had ended in a draw, North Vietnam would have suffered the same fate as North Korea. The U.S.A. does not like to lose, particularly when their opponent has 1/1000 the military budget so they “pout” by sanctioning the poorer nation (Cuba, Iran etc.) forcing poverty upon their civilian populations. Imagine another country telling the U.S.A. that they were not allowed to trade with any other country? Of course you can’t imagine that. It is unthinkable. But somehow it is okay for the U.S. government to impose sanctions on the least powerful countries simply because they do not fall in line with their thinking. Shouldn’t the richest most militarily powerful nation in world history (so far) also be the most benevolent?
Very similar to Luton I thought
@@gwarlow The USA is a war-hungry monster. “Benevolence” is not in their dictionary.
@@gwarlow We also pretend to hate dictatorships, and yet we trade with a third of them (i.e: Saudi Arabia, Jordan, UAE, etc.). We also give full financial support AND free healthcare to Israel while banning BDS. Are we really a free social democracy?
@@gwarlow Moscow likes guys like you.
Good to see that wheel-tappers still have a job there. From the speed that the train was going, it is obviously an express.
Ощущение что это Советский Союз 50-х годов.
это как расия в 21 веке, такая же дичь.)
Чистенько. Реклама глаза не режет.
Мне архитектура напомнила советскую но не 1950х а более позднюю ... скорее 1970х.
Так и есть !
@@nedobriy911 Да ! Никогда Украина не жила так плохо , как при Путине !
That's an old train??? I live in Australia and it makes our bone rattlers look like new....
I notice many of their freight cars are imported from China
I see lots of Chinese and Russian/Soviet locomotives.
Not sure about the passenger cars, are those Soviet imports from the past or Chinese copy of Soviet/German "Ammendorf" coaches.
Most of the freight cars look Chinese, and few look old Soviet models. But the steam engines look like American "Decapod" or Chinese copy - they seems to be retired - no/incomplete rods on wheels.
In 2019 there were no more steam locomotives to be seen.
The North Korea side makes 1980s Bronx look like heaven
We're you able to get out of North Korea
Uhm Hello... Its the height of Winter, -15 degress Celcius!! Did you think that everything would be green?
OCBsebastian looks dead, dreary, lifeless, bleak, poor, cold, sad, hopeless, dispare..
What makes you think it is -15 degrees? does not seem so cold, certainly desolate as NK usually is.
It's 10 degrees here in mid winter and all the fields are green with crops being picked or have cattle and sheep.
@@Thursdaym2 In the video you can see people FISHING on ice! DUUUUH! Of course it's winter and cold enough for water to freeze.
I find it some people being ridiculous with their unnecessary bashing on NK. Sure many of aspects of the country is not the best as ours, but that's none of your business really.
I‘ve literally never ever seen footage of the DPRK with green trees and without fog/smog. Is it always winter over there?
Yes. I understand your point. This is cuz Propaganda is intended to be used by carefully choosing images to convince us how horrendous Korea is. But Korea is the same as any country. It has nice things and ugly things. Just like we have it here at home. By the way, there is NO North Korea; There is only one Korea... what is south of the Peninsula, is NOT a country. It is a US Military Base. One more Base, of the almost 800 Bases that we have scattered around the world.
@@salvadorvizcarra769 then tell me why all former "free" soviet zone wanted to get "opressed" and join the western civilisation ? Do you know why, comrade ?
@@Statek63 That's Propaganda, comrade. All the Republics that formed the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics are SOCIALIST. But, I cannot argue with you on this point, since you DO NOT know what Socialism is, right, comrade? You are one of the people who confuses the word: Communism, with the word: Dictatorship. And also of those who confuse the word Freedom with the word Democracy. And no. Are NOT the same, comrade. You are confused cuz U want it that way. Today we live in the Age of Globalized Information. It is within the reach of a keyboard to know everything, analyze the FACTS, verify the points of view. To Check. To debate. But you are not willing to do any of that. You just keep what Propagamda tells you, right, comrade?
Im love Pyongyang, love people Norte Korea
Idiot.
North Korea: So advanced they've actually lapped everyone and went back to steam engines & wading through rice paddies all day
It’s evolution, just backwards.
They were fishing through the ice gherkin
It might look poor, with nobody driving cars and just about everybody on foot or on a bike, but look at those blocks of flats. I bet there aren't homeless slums like in the US. Also you have to remember NK is one of the most isolated countries in the world, not getting much imports (or even train traffic, like the train taken here), how would other countries look without imports?
The rusting, partly disassembled locomotives are just part of that, moving them would require power, and you have to do it somewhere (if you're not filthy rich and let them rust where they're parked, like they'd do it in the US), so why not where they stopped after delivering their last load, at the border? Makes perfect sense from a poor country's economic priorities.
That's a lot of good scrap metal wasting there.
Does anyone know when this was filmed?
5.44....is where the north Korean air force practices there flying
looks like 1930-50s Soviet Union.
50's for sure. Alot of Russian people who visited say- it feels like they are stuck in 50's.
It looks as USSR industrial city of 10970s I grew in.
That former fairground could be in Pripyat!!
#tchernobyl
@@goldenstatefreeway9737 YEP!
@@Isochest You're right, we should take the time to think about responding appropriately to each other's comments: so I think the 3 years it took you to reply is totally fine. 😂👍
Looks like many parts of the UK, except the streets are wider over there...
keep silence,, north pakistan. it's about korea.
Oh god no. First thing you get to see is an abandoned fun fair. Is there anything more creepy and depressing?
Even the Chinese side looked pretty grim. But North Korea, everything is so grey & drab, even the people. And what is it with the bicycles in the ice??
Fishing for food.
10:11 Auch does not look good. Seems people are starving. Newer seen this many fishing on ice in any other country. :(
why does it seem that there is always curfew on their streets
Training for covid
They are working?
I wonder what the North Koreans think when they see Dandong so brightly lit at night, with music, heavy traffic, people out having fun. Whether they can maybe hear conversations drifting across the water, and so on.
Min. 6:46 prawa strona. Lokomotywa M62 importowana z Polski (nasza seria ST-44). U nich jest to seria 800. Egzemplarze importowane z byłego NRD to seria 700. A nówki z ZSRR; 600 - 65 sztuk.
Ten gagarin jest przerobiony ze spalinowego na elektryczny
импортована з польски:))) з русски:)
lavr2004 Inny rozstaw szyn.
7:32 - WOW What a rare view!!! This is Soviet M-62 diesel locomotive, but they added electric pantographs to it. Could it be that this is hybrid diesel/electric !
I read somewhere in the comments that it’s a fully converted electric locomotive
@@spongebubatz You are correct. There are a few other types of diesels that have been given the same conversion as well.
It had no fuel tank, they seemed to have removed it.
So fully electric.
Considering they work on 3kV DC, this is probably a comparatively easy conversation.
0:16 We start off the video with six soldiers marching in single file towards the cameraman. The front soldier appears to not have hands, or is concealing them above white gloves stuffed with cotton.
A bit of a wild guess, but you might have spotted something there! Perhaps he is holding a gun up his sleeve (ready to shoot someone crossing the border without permission) and the hands are fake. As I'm sure you know, the Chinese government likes shooting people, but perhaps they don't it to be too obvious.
@@evaluateanalysis7974 Right on! I also think he's concealing and ready to shoot. What good is a soldier with no hands? ...North Korea would beg to differ I reckon. I didn't go deep into checking to see if he had "extra long forearms", but it would solve the mystery.
Why so many old Japanese Locomotives?
At the start, you crossed from China to North Korea?
Nice images. Good camera work.
those train look like they are driven by deisel. they are not steam engines
They don't even have cars why is there so much smog?¿
Perhaps they get energy by burning coal or peat
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As a serving railwayman of 35 years, i find this fascinating!
Was the diesel Chinese?
Isochest steam
The people at 10:00 - a few look like skating or sliding on the ice - but most of them seem to be there for fishing.
7:18 蒸気機関車！？ すごいですね。
Such a poor country
Trostlos. Was machen die Menschen da auf dem Eis?
love the hustle and bustle on the NK side ! Very progressive ! nice 1940's train engines !
Bet this feels like going back in time to the 50s-60s
oh naughty, naughty. . . . They got the finger waggle of disapproval 2:26.
I wonder if it's questionable to film in a train station or if that locomotive is considered to be a military vehicle. Over here in the UK you'd get a £200-£1500 fine if you film on Rail Network grounds with a tripod. Without one though it's free.
did you watch the whole thing? there are diesel ,steam and electric locos here ....what a strange place...looks like a ghost town.
As with most reportages from North Corea it always seems to be in winter there . . .
There is always winter in NK because Kim likes winter.
9:45 to 10:00 - WTF is happening? Looks like something from the Fury Road crow people... I know we live in a dystopian future, but even so.
After watching videos from north Korea, i feel really rich...
Do you think you live in the best country in the world? Here in the US: "The best country in the world" now 60 million people living below the poverty line. (And about the 19 million addicts, homeless and the millions of sentenced prisoners). Mr. Glinis, we have the highest incarceration rate in the world. More than Nicaragua, El Salvador, Cuba, Thailand, Korea and China combined. Our rate is almost 5 times the OECD average. I am concerned that "The best country in the world" is in 29th place with respect to the number of medics (doctors) in the planet. I am concerned that we not distinguish between private wealth (1.7%), and public misery (almost 35%). It worries me that NOW.
@@salvadorvizcarra769 Anyone living at the US poverty line is much, much better off than the average resident of North Korea.
@@SuperMikeC65 I'm sorry to tell you that poverty is the same everywhere. But, MISERY is something very different. In the US we see millions of citizens living in misery. Looking in the trash for something to survive on. Living in canvas houses or sleeping on the streets. In Korea there are very poor people, but living in a very dignified humility and not living in misery. And this, you know very well.
@@SuperMikeC65 Please write here: MISERY IN THE USA. You will find on UTube a good amount of videos that show that face of the US that you want to hide from the world. One video in particular, the most objective and serious is: "49 Most Miserable American Cities" Please take 9 minutes and analyze it. You can continue deny this reality, but you cannot hide this reality forever. I recommend the Mr. Michael Moore Documentaries.
Чешские тепловозы?
M62 - советские. Не путать с ЧМЕ3.
@@digimaks понял
Спутать М62 с ЧМЭ3, это как перепутать корову и велосипед.
@@УлыбчивыйКрокодил ну не каждый человек интересуется тепловозами и жд в целом.
@@e_enot_ зачем тогда выдавать такую дичь?
The blue loco's engine tone at 1:15 sounds like a British loco. Possibly a Brush type Sulzer.
I'm a train and I approve this video! Choo choo! :D
2:06 - Looks like an export modification of the Hungarian diesel locomotive M62 built for the USSR. I believe the DPRK version is designated as the K62.
M62 is Soviet loco, exported to Poland, Germany, Hungary and many other coutnries. So yeah looks like they exported to NK too.
@@digimaks You're right. I was confused because the prefix M is Hungarian since the model was originally an exclusive order for Hungary in the early 60s.
Oh look...a fun fair😆 I'm sure that's a safe ride
It's just missing the concession stands selling cats on a stick
@@jamestepera3356 lmao....or the once cute puppy 😆
I'm sure it's a visual thing that they do in NK on the borders to appear 'normal'
7:30 elektrický Sergej???
LOL!
Those old Steamers look like they're straight out of an Old Western film
Old West? Hardly - the basic design is from the 1920s, but probably built much later, in the Fifties or Sixties. China was building similar locomotives up to 1980s at least and in use in some places until a few years ago.
Doesn't look very western to me either. Those aren't that old
A nice 'Taigatrommel' loco
...welcome to City-17...
Nice footage. I didn't know about these electric-converted "M62s"