5 Things I Hate About The Land Rover Discovery II
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The aluminum V8 engine was derived from the Buick V8 that was designed and engineered in 1958 for use in a small, cheap economy car (the 1960 Buick Special; which itself was derived from the Chevy Corvair body). This engine was never designed to last 200,000 miles (nothing in 1958 was designed to last 200,000 miles), was never designed to push around a truck that weight as much as a Land Rover, it was never engineered to have pressed-in cylinder liner (Rover’s idea to save a penny), and the original 3.5 liter was never designed with the idea of over-boring the block to 4.0 liters. Lastly, it was never designed to still be in production for 44 years using the original block castings. Given all that, the little V8 did surprisingly well.
not true the engine you describe was the 3.5 litre v8 and it was magnificent in my 1972 range rover with 300,000 miles the engine when stripped because I thought it was time not because it was broken was in great shape could have easily done another 100k miles. the 4.6 is a pos the TD5 option is much better but the main problem with landrovers outside the UK is driver attitude, the vehicle will take you anywhere reliably and safely under two conditions, 1 you drive it in a reasonable manner something Americans seem unable to do, 2 maintain the vehicle, change the oil and filters regular and use premium oils and filters and keep the radiator and coolers clean. I sold my 72 with 450k miles 9 years ago and still see her driving around with her new owner who tells me she is still great. I now have an 03 disco2 TD5 with stage two ecu larger intercooler and upgraded transmission done for fun more than need.
The Buick Special was not derived from the Corvair. The '60 Buick Special was built on the Y platform, as were several other Buicks, Pontiacs, and Oldsmobiles. The Corvair was built on the Z-platform.
Are you sure your car is not stuck in 3rd? All the v8 disco 2s I have driven sit around 2500 rpm at 110kmh.
I think I misspoke about the RPM. I think it does sit around 2500 at that speed.
@@TheDurbinCompound U clearly have NO idea about this vehicle! The ONLY fair point U make is the flaking "non-genuine" leather which became an issue with the facelift for whatever reason. Having owned & own many D2`s I allow myself to hold a oppinion.
Dude looks exactly like Prince William
With a 'Murican accent. lol
Except Prince William is 10x cooler
@@bidenisgod6978 and 10x more bald. lol
@@JUKE179r Besides being a complete jackass that is
that's why in Australia we get the option of a td5 diesel engine and my 2002 disco 2 runs great
Yes! I wish we had that option here!
What MPG do you get with it being diesel please?
@@meldenarius6659 not sure of mpg I use 9.89 per 100km at average of 109km/hr last three trips of the satnav
The stock stereo is pretty good for sound quality IMO, I have a bluetooth adapter that takes the place of the factory cd changer, works great. Get a steel front bumper, I lost control swerving in the snow and bounced off the center median doing 70km/h and kept going. The bumper wasn't damaged just some light scratches in the powder coating. Shadow offroad out of the UK, best looking bumper for the D2 IMO and cheaper by a long shot than anything I could get made locally here in canada. Somehow it was cheaper to fly a 100lb bumper from the UK to the west coast of Canada than is would have been to ground ship a similar bumper from california. I would love to know how that works.
I want a shadow bumper. Was replacing it much hassle?
@@suprlite Not at all it bolted right up to the frame, I used a jack to hold it in place while i put the bolts thru and just eyeballed the level with the gap from the headlights. I couldn't recommend them more, top quality. No rust after 2 years and hitting the center divider, it would have ended my trip if I had the stock bumper.
Can you please explain how did you put a bluetooth adapter instead of the cd changer?
Can you send me the part details please?
Sorry to contradict you mate, but aluminum does rust, because of the galvanic or electrolytic corrosion. Aluminum rust is white colour.
In fact, that myth (that aluminum does not rust) is responsible for Land Rover owners to be negligent in caring about the chassis and the bodies. Every time you have steel and aluminum in contact with water present (unless you live in the Sahara, it happens all the time), there is (silently) a galvanic corrosion process. And that not only occur between body and chassis, but in fact in the body it self, because not all the body is made of aluminum. The best example of these phenomena is what happen with Defender doors: aluminum exterior shell + steel interior frame (poorly protected until Puma doors, where that frame is galvanized). Another important thing is the fact that originally Land Rover used a Aluminum alloy, called Birmabright, wich was: 1% to 7% magnesium, with
Awesome! Thanks for the detailed comment!
Hi! you think you could teach a class on Land Rovers...specifically Disco II series? I'm tryna see somethn👀 Your whole response was 👌🏾
Hi Brittany, I'm just a hobbyist. Follow Britannica Restoration channel, here in youtube. Mike there is a real professional, and have decades on Land Rover expertise (although he is not a Disco fan...). Cheers!
Actually no. Aluminium doesnt rust. But it can still corrode. But only the corrosion of iron/steel is called rust.
About the cost it always depends on where you get the parts
To live your life style in the U.K. I would need to be a millionaire.......
The American dream ✌
I have a 2002 land rover discovery, it’s so fun to drive and you feel like the biggest thing on the road and it’s perfect off road but the problems under the hood make it a huge risk it’s basically a big baby it’s really fragile
Hahaha well said!!
@@TheDurbinCompound chevy swap! that my plan as nothing else tickles my fancy. I had a 2006 tundra and it was great motor but no soul, it also had a tape deck lol.
It seems the biggest problem with this car and late models is the engine!!! I wonder what the LS conversion would cost to get rid of all these unnecessary leaks and constant gaskets change ... I love the look of the Discovery from 89 through 04 👌🏼
Daisuke's I’ve owned two 2005’s. They purchased the GM motor. All the issues are from an American made engine and Im American.
@@johnm.515 Hi may I ask what years are American made ? Thanks
Rover purchased the rights for the GM block in the 60s and made it in the UK up to the 2000s. Originally I think it was fine but they kept boring it out in the same block which caused issues
Erm, Bosch don’t make engines! It’s a Rover V8 based on a Buick V8
Christopher Grimes
Yes they do at least for certain rovers
@@your247support bosch is only the injection. Swap heads with an old gems engine and no more bosch.
In the late 1990s, Bosch engineered a new intake and engine and emissions management system for the Rover V8, which introduced a number of changes over the previous GEMS engine management and intake design. A common complaint on the Bosch engines is intake manifold gaskets fail frequently, resulting from these changes. There are other engine management issues specific to the Bosch engines, which aren't found on previous versions of the Rover V8. This is what is meant when a Discovery or late P38 owner refer to the "Bosch Engine".
Well thanks for that comment! I like it! Exactly my complaints as well!
In the uk they’re cheap but I suppose we’ve got plenty of them
Two things one the body is not all aluminum some panels are but the main body structure is in fact steel and they do occasionally rust pretty bad. Second that is real leather on the interior it has to be taken care of or it will go bad. It’s not like a regular cloth or vinyl seat.
The earlier V8's were more reliable. 195.000 that's a lot of miles. There are bound to be issues at that mileage!
Better swap the mechanic 2
I’m thinking on buy one like that, but I need repair the head gasket, you thing that it’s a good idea?
For cheap, sure. I’m seeing these things pop up for around $1000 USD these days
@@TheDurbinCompound what's you're current Instagram
The cassette player is there because tapes don't jump off road, the disc player for road trips
Decent motors I have a couple, the locking diff only does the transfer box not the axels, the td5 goes on and on as long as it's looked after the v8 have weak Bosch cylinder liners etc,
Thanks for the info!!
TheDurbinCompound No worries bro any problems crop up ask, pretty much changed every nut and bolt on these beasts u have to be a mobile mechanic to own a disco haha I'd swap the v8 out for the TD5 far more reliable
Money and time!! Never enough of both!
TheDurbinCompound i know that bro, as me say over here it's a land rover fix it when it breaks if it really needs it lol
Yeah sometimes you just have to leave a couple things or she will really break down. Fix a coolant leak, fry a CPS! Hahaha
My Disco 1 was totaled by a bus sideswipe. I brought cost down by getting all panels used on EBay.
Number 5: commanding driving position!
If you want to save your panels then ARB or APT Fabrications manufacture steel bars that are half the price of the plastic.
the v8 is the Buick 215 on disco 1
Get a TD5!
I wish it was in the cards brother! The LR is actually acting all kinda of funny right now. It’s mad that it’s not daily driven anymore!
Not good mate. Don’t give up on her! 👍🏼
@@TheDurbinCompound well, cant you source a td5 from UK?
immobiliser on mine, its terrible I dont use it or the electrics freak out but i love Disco`s
Aluminum body Panels on all Discovery 2 from 1994 - 2004?
My 02 does 75 mph at 2300 RPM
My 2003 revs to 275 rpm at 70 mph. Sounds like overdrive isn't kicking in.
You have to buy aftermarket parts for LR's they are higher quality. Lights, bumpers, etc. Tou should have gone ARB on the bumpers etc.
Diesel engine is bullet proof . Petrol engine was always poor .
True story......
Real shame you guys never got the Td5 engine ......
@Bushmaster88 not brittish design cheaply aquired failure from other companies the td5 was the last landrover designed engine and arguably the best
Put ole 300tdi in it as long as its manual
And not far off on performance compared to the V8.
I always say that there are to ways to own an audi. Be rich or DIY.
This vehicle has steel roof and door panels. It is a shame that the dorsal engine is not available in the us as this engine is a gem
Dorsal engine? How does that work? 😂
V8 sucks... outdated.. low power gaz guzzler - get a TD5. - its much better. Gearbox? My TD5 cruises around 2100 rpm @60mph all day long. Interior isnt the best quality but it lasts if You take care of it(except leather around handbrake and gearshifter it just crumbles) - especially seat leather just need conditioning like all leathers. Cheap original audio is crappy - optional Harman Kardon soundsystem with CD-box and subwoofer is amazing - must have option. Facelift lights/front end is expensive as hell to fix (no spare parts). Pre-FL (under 2001 year) D2 front is cheap AF - 50bucks for brand new headlight etc. Its easy to work on car -You can do most stuff at home easily - lots of resources/info and how-tos. Overall nothing more than any other "old" SUV - its little more complicated but nothing too crazy - id say best old school mechanics with a dab of simple electronics to make life little more comfortable - hence its a nice cruiser every day/weather of the year everywhere. But i am biased since i have owned mine for 3 years now after "saving" it from scrappers with 250k+ miles and absolutely love it. I think its very under appreciated as a versatile vehicle but overhyped on repairs/ownership costs/reliability wise. You cant have "every capability" vehicle dirt cheap - You gotta DIY fix/maintain it or pay workshops - simple. Cheers! :)
Thanks for the great comment! I appreciate the time you spent on it. I agree with all your points. I use this disco as a woods truck now hauling a wood trailer and all the chainsaws
just curious, what were the symptom of a bad lower intake?
Intake manifold was leaking oil off the back of the engine. A LOT of oil!
How do you have $14,000 worth of damage too a vehicle that isn't even worth half of that? LOL 😂
My 2002 has a miss in it. Where should I start looking?
C. Morgan your gonna need to change the coil packs.
Gasping for more than three things you like?
Eesh. That's not good.
Yeah, if the head gaskets go again, I'm putting in a LS engine. Or I doing this: arp-bolts.com/kits/arpkit-detail.php?RecordID=4560 . I used this stud kit in a Mini cooper, added copper gaskets, and never had an issue.
the negatives seem to far outweigh the positives... Why not get a 4Runner...
I want one!
So you put 150,000 miles on it since you bought it? That's quite a lot of driving 🙂
Well that's over 12 years. Probably around 12k miles a year!
Makes sense, that's definitely enough time to get to know a vehicle 👍
Mine is so unreliable but I love it.
Loved my disco!
expensive? you can get them for a few thousand in the uk
Its not the transmission's fault, its the rear diff, just change it out. Here in europe panels, lights and stuff is cheap and we have the best engine and thats the TD5
Horseshit!
Td5 diesel actually coulbe double spencive than the v8s gas ..
2:28 before you say "let's get into the (reason for the video)"
Seen your other vids - it's a pattern. Appreciate that you're putting things out, but it would be nice if you just declared your point - and didn't talk about what you might be thinking about what you wanted to say in just a minute so let me tell you about that." State a point. Maybe write it out before you start if it helps. Tens of thousands of views, doesn't seem too much to put in a half ounce of effort. Cheers mate.
2006 toyotas came with cassette players dude.....
Make that even 2014.... Then again; This twat does believe in DVD players so go figure....
Here's an idea mate. If you don't like the vehicle, sell the damn thing and buy what you want. It's that simple.l
Correction diesal engine
He doesn’t like the engine /transmission and seats 💺! Is that not it!!!?
Where does this have front locker?? True locker?? Terrible engine!!! Parts are not worth it
This has a transfer case lock, it splits the power 50/50 to front and rear. Not lockers in regards to each separate axle.
Cruise control fails
Nice video i was going to get won but I got an xtrsil insted but it is cost a lot but nice car ed uk
Good looks bad engine and transmission 😕
The doors and roof are steel, quite capable of rusting
Doors are aluminium as well. Trust me, I drill holes in mine a lot whenever I rip a fender flare off on the trails.
@@craigmackintosh1604 aluminum skin i think
@@atodaso1668 quite right you are
The td5 is the best petrol version are shit
Like how he says expensive. Here in uk they're cheap and worthless. The defender is the expensive one, you only buy a disco to off road if you can't afford a defender.
Or if you like a ride thats more comfortable than a tractor, whilst still beeing just as able off road.
@@suprlite but the tractor is iconic and yes it's uncomfortable but it's a legend. Didn't see the fan fair when the disco stopped production.
That's probably because the discovery never stopped production 😉
Discovery is way more comfortable than defender. The defender is like riding in an extremely tight tune can. SUCKS.
I'm not disputing that a discovery is more comfortable than a defender. We all know that. In uk a td5 disco is £1200 a td5 defender is £8000. If you turn up with a defender it's instant respect. If you turn up in a disco then it's because you are on a budget. Underneath they're basically the same vehicle apart from some air ride and a foot over hang. What are the reasons why a noise bad to drive uncomfortable defender is worth 7 times more?