"Cuckoo and the monkeys didn't kidnap Bess" LMAO that made me laugh. I would say Soren - everyone else had big subplots before the end game sequence and usually characters in these games have their moment that makes them more whole and developed so after Dagny kidnapped herself, we find Tuomi and we find out about Gunnar's tragic past, it just left us with Soren who hadn't really had that big moment yet in the game besides finding out that he had been bullied for being an outsider, which just strengthened the chances of him being the culprit
I definitely knew that Victor Losset was our culprit before the end, but it was one of my favorites because it felt like a slow sickening descent into the truth. He's sus as hell, but by the time Nancy could reasonably figure it out, she's pretty much trapped there. I called Emily Griffin, Taylor Sinclair, Shorty, Yanni, and Large Landform Michael. Fun suggestion: take the games with your least favorite culprits and change them! Defend your stance on the new culprit. For example, instead of 'because I can' Ewan, what if you found pictures of the real Moira and found out the woman you were working with was a revanant operative who oversaw the colony operation, and wanted to bring Nancy in to kick off the new colony as revenge for her mother ruining the last one. Just crazy off the wall theories that YOU think are better.
I gotta add Lisa. She is VERY suspicious. She's extremely overly-nice, is rather suspicious given her lying about knowing Spanish, and the nail in the coffin is Hotchkiss saying, "Oh, that Lisa Ostrum was sneaking around my room even though I didn't order any room service!" or something like that. Also, everyone else was too obviously suspicious, what with all of them having apparently stolen/had medallions except for her (the medallion in Hotchkiss' room, the one Jacques had, the one she claimed Dexter took to the shed, etc).
DDI also made it SUPER obvious with Andy's card under the pipes, which many players find within the first few minutes of the game. TOT is also a lot like STFD where everything and everyone points to Scott, I find. Generally, I was able to correctly guess all the culprits before the end, except the ones with multiple culprits would sometimes trip me up. I find HeR made it easy it to guess since Nancy usually finds damning evidence right before the confrontation. Shattered Medallion was an exception 😂 because the writing was so bad. I think Soren was the first and only suspect to lie so horribly (the glove convo).
I started playing the games at 11 or 12 years old and was NEVER able to guess the culprit correctly. I just wanted to "win" the game and was always totally shocked at the reveal!
10 year old me was so fooled on Ransom! 😅 I thought there was eventually going to be a pirate reveal 🤦🏻♀️ so I walked around scared the whole game lol
I knew Victor was the culprit, but it's only because of historical knowledge. Since this is an obvious parallel to Tesla and Edison, it's obvious that the Edison parallel would be guilty of committing crimes against the Tesla parallel.
When I played SCK remastered for the first time I somehow managed to avoid Beech in the whole game, and when I got the the reveal I was like ???? Who tf is this guy????
Yes Dwayne Powers and Victor Losset were pretty obvious Culprits but that doesn't make Them any less TERRIFYING definitely Dwayne Powers in Stay Tuned for Danger has to be 1 if not The most Scariest Culprits ever
@@WizardKittenYT Bringing A Villain back could have worked Great but Her Interactive completely completely screwed up Their opportunity They need to get much better Writers if They ever try to use that trick again Shorty whould have worked so much better ad The Culprit in Ransom of The Seven Ships or Emily Griffin Dwayne Powers doesn't fit The role of Someone looking for 400 Year Old Treasure
Spoilers for Deadly Device and Shadow at the Water's Edge: I guessed the culprit in DED for the exact same reason you did, though I wasn't 100% sure for the first half of the game until they appeared again, then I was certain. Plus I never suspected Ryan at all, the moment you were told, "Oh, the culprit is most likely this woman named Ryan, but we need evidence" I was like "Well, it's definitely not her, then" I also guessed the culprit from SAW, because I figured the only way to get a happy ending for this broken family is if it's not an actual family member who's doing all this.
I thought Last Train to Blue Moon Canyon's culprit was pretty easy to guess - there's really only one person I could see it being from the very beginning.
John and Tino could have been the culprit, it just wouldn't have been very good writing if they had been. Fiction is different than real life. Real life has no obligation to make a good story. Technically it's impossible to guess the culprit early in Last Train, simply because there is no crime for anyone to be the culprit of until the last moment.
@@GraemeCree Yeah I suppose that's true but since we know it's a mystery given the series it's in, it'd be pretty easy to guess that Lori had a hidden agenda from the beginning (and she did).
It would be interesting to see what culprit reveals really surprised you. For me the culprit from SAW shocked me but looking back it seems fairly obvious. I'm a pretty terrible guesser but I was able to guess the culprits from the games you mentioned plus TOT and TRN
I think a lot of people were surprised by the culprit reveal in Curse of Blackmoor Manor. Haunting of Castle Malloy is kinda surprising since the “culprit” isn’t technically a culprit at all.
I was able to figure out who the culprit was for Warnings at Waverly Academy towards the end of our first conversation with Corrine when she asked and then said, "I'm not so bad, right?... Well, you're about to find out that I'm not the most, nevermind, you'll see soon enough."
Have you done a video of Top 10 Moments Nancy Acts like an Idiot? Cuz I wanna yell at Nancy when she throws the crystal skull to Renee at the end of CRY
I also didn't play stay tuned for danger before ransom and was like uhhh who is this guy?? I figured Victor was the bad guy for the same reason you did. I usually remember villians I get really wrong, like being super surprised by Helena from phantom of Venice because she was there when the phantom broke in and I don't think as a child I understood how a crime ring worked and that she didn't actually need to be the one in the mask to be the villian. I love all these villian videos!
How did I miss a wizard kitten video??? I'm usually on top of it! I love your analyses. I honestly can't remember who I thought was the bad guy on most first play throughs. I think Alibi in Ashes was one I was highly suspicious of.
The only 3 I've ever been 100% sure of before the end was Stay Tuned For Danger Waverly And Captive Curse Deadly Device I had suspected but wasn't 100% Ransom I knew it had to be the only other person but I wasn't 100% it was between the Stay Tuned culprit and the Design culprit because of the cut out threatening notes. Waverly I got near the end but I figured out that: Mel was way too panicked about the plagiarism to be guilty. There's no way somebody is going through the work of writing a 30 page report and then sabotaging herself at the last minute. Leela was too much of a competitive sportsman to cheat by threatening her competition. And Rachel/Kim was too busy trying to just survive to actually attack their classmates even if they were the ones writing the notes. That only left one suspect.
To be fair, it’s easy to brush off her actions at the beginning of the game because she’s a reporter. Usually reporters are the first ones on the scene. Then again, the person coming out of a burning building would usually be assessed for any serious injuries before anything else.
I was never the smartest detective. I started playing the games when I was 8 so I wasn’t really that good at them. This is going to sound strange but I never really actively tried to guess a culprit. I always felt just along for the ride 🤣 why am I so weird lol
Admittedly, i don't tend to correctly guess until very far into the games, like when there's been a tonal shift, and everyone's commenting on how weird the culprit is behaving 😅 depending on the game, I think I'm too focused on the puzzles that move me from point A to point B to try to figure out the culprits for myself. That being said, the ones I can remember solving of the games I've played so far are: Secret of the Old Clock, Sea of Darkness, Shattered Medallion, Danger by Design, and Captive Curse.
Me and my dad were terrible at guessing culprits, i think we only guessed correctly on SSH, TOT, and RAN. utterly terrible at figuring out culprits right up until the final confrontations and then we would go 'OH that suspicious behavior was suspicious after all ohhhh...'
With deadly device, I figured it out right t the beginning too. Not because of how you figured it out, but when you go into the office and look at the file everyone else has multiple sentences..... villain only has 1
I played STFD with my then babysitter, and she guessed the culprit during our first conversation. I correctly guessed CAR's culprit while beta testing it. I'd read Shadow Ranch, so I knew who it was going in. Though my book knowledge worked against me two games later. TRN and Danger by Design I guessed right fairly early on. I was also right on VEN. I actually didn't get RAN right, as I thought that one suspect was too obvious, and they were going to put a culprit in during the last five minutes, like they did in the original SCK. I suspected Brenda before the game even began. Just because the only possible reason I could think for them to bring her into the game universe would be to cathartically have her arrested. I guessed right on TMB and GTH. And I'd call my guess in LAB partially correct, as I got the ringleader right, just didn't realize everyone else was in on it too.
Culprit Reviles that surprised me: Danger on Deception Island Blackmore Manor and Labyrinth of Lies I thought the culprits were: Possibly Holt or obliviously Katy, Ethel, and Xenia w/ Thanos as her mussel
Would you ever rank the villains based on how good their culprit reveal is and if it was easy to figure out? For example, a great villain is one you could work out, but it took some time, and you had to be a detective to figure it out, while a bad one you couldn't guess or was way too easy to figure out.
I’m ashamed to admit it, but I’ve almost never been able to guess the culprit correctly in just about every mystery. I *did* manage to get it right for Alibi in Ashes. Not only was Brenda the first one to interrogate Nancy, she knew a lot of incredibly specific details about the fire.
Yep, I figured out that ALL of the people in this video were the culprits before I solved the games, and for ALL the exact reasons that you did! 😁😁😁 When I played these games growing up, I liked to guess who the culprits were in games that I didn't finish initially, and I did much of it through a process of elimination, much like in the way you did so with figuring out that Anja was the culprit in The Captive Curse. I mean, I realized pretty much from the get-go that "Johnny Rolle" kidnapped Bess due to a severe lack of other suspects in Ransom of the Seven Ships. Like you and many other ND fans, it's one of the many criticisms I have for this game, though I was quite shellshocked at "Johnny" turning out to be Dwayne. And as I said in my comment on the video about character red flags, Dwayne's use of "ladder climber" in Lillian's letter and Victor's absolute fury at Ryan being in the clear were the reasons why I suspected them as the culprits in their respective games. As for Detective Beech, yeah, I also thought that the remastered of Secrets Can Kill having a new character in it was a bit odd unless he was the new culprit, because why else would the makers go to so much trouble to put in an additional character if he wasn't in the original game? Yes, I thought the same with Brenda almost immediately from the start. Like you said, the fact that she had her microphone at the ready when Nancy escaped from the burning town hall, as if she KNEW Nancy was trapped in there and thus was preparing herself to interview Nancy and paint her as the arsonist, was a MAJOR red flag! And like you also said, Brenda's behavior makes her suspicious further because she continuously refuses to answer the questions Nancy's friends ask her, she doesn't listen to Nancy's friends at all and instead manipulates the conversations to make it sound like they answer her questions when they don't directly intend for that to happen (all while she still tries to make it sound like Nancy alone is the guilty party), and she's always on the attack and defensive mode while doing all of that. I can tell you, though, when her partial fingerprint was found on the note Deirdre found, that was the clincher for me. This is part of the reasons why I love Alibi in Ashes because it involves Nancy investigating a true mystery of an official crime which she is framed. A crime that has the feel of a formal investigation due to the use of forensics and other evidence along with suspects who have potential motives and alibis. For the reasons I listed above, Brenda's general behavior throughout the game makes it easy to narrow her as the prime suspect.
@ Well, Brenda’s aggressive, ruthless determination to paint Nancy as the arsonist and get a good story on it, without a care at all to do was right instead, was just a very telling clue that she did it and was attempting to misdirect the truth away from her, you know?
Given how obviously guilty Brenda Carlton was, I still don’t understand how anyone could’ve thought Nancy was the arsonist. Me thinks there’s some corruption in the River Heights police force.
@@WizardKittenYTYou’re so nice! I made that silly conspiracy theory comment because I was angry about the plot of the game since I’m way too sensitive.
Yeah, that’s one nitpick I have with the game. Given how suspicious Brenda was it’s hard to understand why the police suspected Nancy instead of further investigating Brenda.
When you say "Guessed", you really mean "felt certain". There were lots of games where I guessed right, but probably don't deserve much credit for doing it. And there were lots of games where I felt reasonably certain. Haunted Mansion, for example. It obviously wasn't Charlie. Abby? Maybe, but she was so wrapped up in her spook game that it seemed unlikely that she had another racket. Rose? The fact that she said that bit about "Sometimes I think this place would be worth more burned to the ground" seemed to automatically eliminate her. Nobody thinking about actually doing it would say that openly. And nothing else pointed her way. Louis? Well yeah, we saw through the bookcase that he was hunting for the treasure, and was so paranoid about it that he'd have us thrown out for saying we heard about gum bo fu in a book. So, I wasn't positive it was him, but reasonably certain, sure. I wouldn't have been flabbergasted if it was Abby, but I was pretty sure it was Louis. It might make a good video to go through each game, and try to figure out who was the most likely suspect 10 seconds before the culprit revealed themselves in the endgame. Rank from Least Likely to Most Likely, who is going to be your Mystery Date. For Haunted Mansion, for example, just before Louis stepped out, I would have ranked them from Least Likely to Most Likely: Charlie, Rose, Abby, Louis.
Trying to think of some others. For Ghost Dogs, just before the reveal, I would have ranked (from Least Likely to Most): Ranger Akers, Red, Emily. It could have been Red, but no real motive suggested itself, while Emily was profiting. For Shadow Ranch, I'd have ranked them Dave, Tex, Mary, Shorty. Dave was beefcake, Tex had been a seemingly sinister character who had been softened by having a romance with Mary, so it made little literary sense to harden him again. Mary... maybe. Shorty seemed a little more conniving and exploitative. So, not a certainty, but probable. I'm only thinking now of ones where I was more or less right. There were others where I was wrong, or had no idea. Like in Shattered Medallion, I knew it wasn't Sonny, but it could have been any of the others.
I can't honestly remember! Usually how it works for me is that I'm sure and then I'm right or I just don't commit because I don't have a definite answer.
Hey Dwayne Powers stop pretending that You are Satan when You come to strangle Nancy in The Game Over Screen for Stay Tuned for Danger Ending I'm not sure if that was intentional by Her Interactive but I still think that He looks like Satan for that Scene I know that I have said that before but still it's true
if you can guess the culprit corectly i wonder if thats good or bad from a mystery point of view and im talking about all detective books/movies/tv shows in general have you read the nancy drew books
Personally, I’d say it depends on how the player is able to guess it. In Ransom of The Seven Ships that’s a bad sign because there were hardly any other characters and none of them could have possibly kidnapped Bess. But in Stay Tuned for Danger and Alibi in Ashes, I’d say that’s a good thing because it demonstrates how much thought and effort went into the writing in order to make the culprit reveals seem as logical as possible. WizardKitten didn’t guess the culprit in The Silent Spy, but that’s not necessarily a good thing because the character was too underdeveloped.
@@avalasialove which category does royal tower go into cause people in this comment section says it was easy to find out lisa was the culprit good or bad that it was easy personally
"Cuckoo and the monkeys didn't kidnap Bess" LMAO that made me laugh.
I would say Soren - everyone else had big subplots before the end game sequence and usually characters in these games have their moment that makes them more whole and developed so after Dagny kidnapped herself, we find Tuomi and we find out about Gunnar's tragic past, it just left us with Soren who hadn't really had that big moment yet in the game besides finding out that he had been bullied for being an outsider, which just strengthened the chances of him being the culprit
True! Soren also says several very suspicious things throughout the game so in hindsight, he's definitely the guilty party!
I definitely knew that Victor Losset was our culprit before the end, but it was one of my favorites because it felt like a slow sickening descent into the truth. He's sus as hell, but by the time Nancy could reasonably figure it out, she's pretty much trapped there.
I called Emily Griffin, Taylor Sinclair, Shorty, Yanni, and Large Landform Michael.
Fun suggestion: take the games with your least favorite culprits and change them! Defend your stance on the new culprit. For example, instead of 'because I can' Ewan, what if you found pictures of the real Moira and found out the woman you were working with was a revanant operative who oversaw the colony operation, and wanted to bring Nancy in to kick off the new colony as revenge for her mother ruining the last one. Just crazy off the wall theories that YOU think are better.
I 100% agree about the slow sickening descent, it's so terrifying! Especially when he finally shows up at the building?! My stomach just dropped!
lol at Big Island Mike's new name 😆
The game made it pretty darn obvious that Victor was the culprit by the time he showed up in person. No guessing was needed then.
I gotta add Lisa. She is VERY suspicious. She's extremely overly-nice, is rather suspicious given her lying about knowing Spanish, and the nail in the coffin is Hotchkiss saying, "Oh, that Lisa Ostrum was sneaking around my room even though I didn't order any room service!" or something like that. Also, everyone else was too obviously suspicious, what with all of them having apparently stolen/had medallions except for her (the medallion in Hotchkiss' room, the one Jacques had, the one she claimed Dexter took to the shed, etc).
For sure!! The game definitely sets up that Lisa is sus!
Might have been able to guess that one had I not been going through puberty and crushing on Lisa at the time! I suspected Jacques the most.
I thought it was Dexter
DDI also made it SUPER obvious with Andy's card under the pipes, which many players find within the first few minutes of the game. TOT is also a lot like STFD where everything and everyone points to Scott, I find.
Generally, I was able to correctly guess all the culprits before the end, except the ones with multiple culprits would sometimes trip me up. I find HeR made it easy it to guess since Nancy usually finds damning evidence right before the confrontation. Shattered Medallion was an exception 😂 because the writing was so bad. I think Soren was the first and only suspect to lie so horribly (the glove convo).
I started playing the games at 11 or 12 years old and was NEVER able to guess the culprit correctly. I just wanted to "win" the game and was always totally shocked at the reveal!
10 year old me was so fooled on Ransom! 😅 I thought there was eventually going to be a pirate reveal 🤦🏻♀️ so I walked around scared the whole game lol
Honestly, the game would have been SO much better if that had been the case! 😅
I knew Victor was the culprit, but it's only because of historical knowledge. Since this is an obvious parallel to Tesla and Edison, it's obvious that the Edison parallel would be guilty of committing crimes against the Tesla parallel.
Ooh!! That's a really cool angle that I didn't even think about!
When I played SCK remastered for the first time I somehow managed to avoid Beech in the whole game, and when I got the the reveal I was like ???? Who tf is this guy????
OMG, that's actually really funny!
Yes Dwayne Powers and Victor Losset were pretty obvious Culprits but that doesn't make Them any less TERRIFYING definitely Dwayne Powers in Stay Tuned for Danger has to be 1 if not The most Scariest Culprits ever
Oh I agree!
@@WizardKittenYT Brenda is very Heartless
@@WizardKittenYT Bringing A Villain back could have worked Great but Her Interactive completely completely screwed up Their opportunity They need to get much better Writers if They ever try to use that trick again Shorty whould have worked so much better ad The Culprit in Ransom of The Seven Ships or Emily Griffin Dwayne Powers doesn't fit The role of Someone looking for 400 Year Old Treasure
Spoilers for Deadly Device and Shadow at the Water's Edge:
I guessed the culprit in DED for the exact same reason you did, though I wasn't 100% sure for the first half of the game until they appeared again, then I was certain. Plus I never suspected Ryan at all, the moment you were told, "Oh, the culprit is most likely this woman named Ryan, but we need evidence" I was like "Well, it's definitely not her, then"
I also guessed the culprit from SAW, because I figured the only way to get a happy ending for this broken family is if it's not an actual family member who's doing all this.
Yeah, that logic for SAW makes sense!
I thought Last Train to Blue Moon Canyon's culprit was pretty easy to guess - there's really only one person I could see it being from the very beginning.
Yeah, that's one that I think I could've figured out if I had been an adult when I first played it!
John and Tino could have been the culprit, it just wouldn't have been very good writing if they had been. Fiction is different than real life. Real life has no obligation to make a good story.
Technically it's impossible to guess the culprit early in Last Train, simply because there is no crime for anyone to be the culprit of until the last moment.
@@GraemeCree Yeah I suppose that's true but since we know it's a mystery given the series it's in, it'd be pretty easy to guess that Lori had a hidden agenda from the beginning (and she did).
It would be interesting to see what culprit reveals really surprised you. For me the culprit from SAW shocked me but looking back it seems fairly obvious. I'm a pretty terrible guesser but I was able to guess the culprits from the games you mentioned plus TOT and TRN
I could definitely see TOT and TRN being guessable!
I think a lot of people were surprised by the culprit reveal in Curse of Blackmoor Manor. Haunting of Castle Malloy is kinda surprising since the “culprit” isn’t technically a culprit at all.
Saw?
I was able to figure out who the culprit was for Warnings at Waverly Academy towards the end of our first conversation with Corrine when she asked and then said, "I'm not so bad, right?... Well, you're about to find out that I'm not the most, nevermind, you'll see soon enough."
Ooh, you got it right away then!
It’s always a good day when WizardKitten uploads!
Aww, yay!!
"I rarely played a game where I was confident about the culprit"
Ransom of the seven ships wants to chat. ;)
Have you done a video of Top 10 Moments Nancy Acts like an Idiot? Cuz I wanna yell at Nancy when she throws the crystal skull to Renee at the end of CRY
LOL, I haven't but now I really want to 😂
@@WizardKittenYT We could rename it as "Top 10 Cringeworthy Nancy Moments" since being an idiot is a blunt synonym lol
And leaving Joseph to show the police the evidence in the Magician's room.
I also didn't play stay tuned for danger before ransom and was like uhhh who is this guy?? I figured Victor was the bad guy for the same reason you did. I usually remember villians I get really wrong, like being super surprised by Helena from phantom of Venice because she was there when the phantom broke in and I don't think as a child I understood how a crime ring worked and that she didn't actually need to be the one in the mask to be the villian. I love all these villian videos!
Lol, yeah that makes sense with Helena!
How did I miss a wizard kitten video??? I'm usually on top of it! I love your analyses.
I honestly can't remember who I thought was the bad guy on most first play throughs. I think Alibi in Ashes was one I was highly suspicious of.
Yeah, the culprit in ASH is just so suspicious!!
The only 3 I've ever been 100% sure of before the end was
Stay Tuned For Danger
Waverly
And Captive Curse
Deadly Device I had suspected but wasn't 100%
Ransom I knew it had to be the only other person but I wasn't 100% it was between the Stay Tuned culprit and the Design culprit because of the cut out threatening notes.
Waverly I got near the end but I figured out that:
Mel was way too panicked about the plagiarism to be guilty.
There's no way somebody is going through the work of writing a 30 page report and then sabotaging herself at the last minute.
Leela was too much of a competitive sportsman to cheat by threatening her competition.
And Rachel/Kim was too busy trying to just survive to actually attack their classmates even if they were the ones writing the notes.
That only left one suspect.
Ooh for sure, WAC makes sense!
Omg I never thought about that with Brenda!! What a great observation!!
She's so sus!!
To be fair, it’s easy to brush off her actions at the beginning of the game because she’s a reporter. Usually reporters are the first ones on the scene. Then again, the person coming out of a burning building would usually be assessed for any serious injuries before anything else.
I was never the smartest detective. I started playing the games when I was 8 so I wasn’t really that good at them. This is going to sound strange but I never really actively tried to guess a culprit. I always felt just along for the ride 🤣 why am I so weird lol
That is exactly what happened to me as a kid too!! I didn't even start trying to guess ahead of time until Captive Curse!
@@WizardKittenYT Lol ohhh good!! I'm glad I'm not the only one!!
Admittedly, i don't tend to correctly guess until very far into the games, like when there's been a tonal shift, and everyone's commenting on how weird the culprit is behaving 😅 depending on the game, I think I'm too focused on the puzzles that move me from point A to point B to try to figure out the culprits for myself. That being said, the ones I can remember solving of the games I've played so far are: Secret of the Old Clock, Sea of Darkness, Shattered Medallion, Danger by Design, and Captive Curse.
Me and my dad were terrible at guessing culprits, i think we only guessed correctly on SSH, TOT, and RAN. utterly terrible at figuring out culprits right up until the final confrontations and then we would go 'OH that suspicious behavior was suspicious after all ohhhh...'
Hey, that’s better than me. The only one I managed to guess correctly was Alibi in Ashes.
With deadly device, I figured it out right t the beginning too. Not because of how you figured it out, but when you go into the office and look at the file everyone else has multiple sentences..... villain only has 1
Ooh great point! It's sort of like in ASH how we find evidence against everyone besides the culprit first!
I played STFD with my then babysitter, and she guessed the culprit during our first conversation.
I correctly guessed CAR's culprit while beta testing it.
I'd read Shadow Ranch, so I knew who it was going in. Though my book knowledge worked against me two games later.
TRN and Danger by Design I guessed right fairly early on. I was also right on VEN.
I actually didn't get RAN right, as I thought that one suspect was too obvious, and they were going to put a culprit in during the last five minutes, like they did in the original SCK.
I suspected Brenda before the game even began. Just because the only possible reason I could think for them to bring her into the game universe would be to cathartically have her arrested.
I guessed right on TMB and GTH. And I'd call my guess in LAB partially correct, as I got the ringleader right, just didn't realize everyone else was in on it too.
Culprit Reviles that surprised me:
Danger on Deception Island
Blackmore Manor
and Labyrinth of Lies
I thought the culprits were: Possibly Holt or obliviously Katy, Ethel, and Xenia w/ Thanos as her mussel
I think Blackmore Manor surprised most players.
Would you ever rank the villains based on how good their culprit reveal is and if it was easy to figure out? For example, a great villain is one you could work out, but it took some time, and you had to be a detective to figure it out, while a bad one you couldn't guess or was way too easy to figure out.
That's definitely a possibility! I would just have to work out a solid ranking system!
I’m ashamed to admit it, but I’ve almost never been able to guess the culprit correctly in just about every mystery. I *did* manage to get it right for Alibi in Ashes. Not only was Brenda the first one to interrogate Nancy, she knew a lot of incredibly specific details about the fire.
Guessing the culprit is really tough!! Especially since the writing of these games is generally quite good!
@@WizardKittenYT It doesn’t help that I was a socially blind, overly-trusting middle schooler. Man, I was cringey back then!
Me: :(
WizardKitten uploads another great video
Me: :)
Aww, I'm so glad the video could help!! Sending internet hugs your way!
@@WizardKittenYT Thank you 💛
Yep, I figured out that ALL of the people in this video were the culprits before I solved the games, and for ALL the exact reasons that you did! 😁😁😁 When I played these games growing up, I liked to guess who the culprits were in games that I didn't finish initially, and I did much of it through a process of elimination, much like in the way you did so with figuring out that Anja was the culprit in The Captive Curse.
I mean, I realized pretty much from the get-go that "Johnny Rolle" kidnapped Bess due to a severe lack of other suspects in Ransom of the Seven Ships. Like you and many other ND fans, it's one of the many criticisms I have for this game, though I was quite shellshocked at "Johnny" turning out to be Dwayne. And as I said in my comment on the video about character red flags, Dwayne's use of "ladder climber" in Lillian's letter and Victor's absolute fury at Ryan being in the clear were the reasons why I suspected them as the culprits in their respective games. As for Detective Beech, yeah, I also thought that the remastered of Secrets Can Kill having a new character in it was a bit odd unless he was the new culprit, because why else would the makers go to so much trouble to put in an additional character if he wasn't in the original game?
Yes, I thought the same with Brenda almost immediately from the start. Like you said, the fact that she had her microphone at the ready when Nancy escaped from the burning town hall, as if she KNEW Nancy was trapped in there and thus was preparing herself to interview Nancy and paint her as the arsonist, was a MAJOR red flag! And like you also said, Brenda's behavior makes her suspicious further because she continuously refuses to answer the questions Nancy's friends ask her, she doesn't listen to Nancy's friends at all and instead manipulates the conversations to make it sound like they answer her questions when they don't directly intend for that to happen (all while she still tries to make it sound like Nancy alone is the guilty party), and she's always on the attack and defensive mode while doing all of that. I can tell you, though, when her partial fingerprint was found on the note Deirdre found, that was the clincher for me. This is part of the reasons why I love Alibi in Ashes because it involves Nancy investigating a true mystery of an official crime which she is framed. A crime that has the feel of a formal investigation due to the use of forensics and other evidence along with suspects who have potential motives and alibis. For the reasons I listed above, Brenda's general behavior throughout the game makes it easy to narrow her as the prime suspect.
Brenda’s the only one I managed to guess correctly. Apparently everyone else is much smarter than me when it comes to determining the culprit.
@ Well, Brenda’s aggressive, ruthless determination to paint Nancy as the arsonist and get a good story on it, without a care at all to do was right instead, was just a very telling clue that she did it and was attempting to misdirect the truth away from her, you know?
I remember correctly guessing the culprit in WAC, because I deliberately chose the person I least suspected. Somehow, that reverse logic worked out.
Lol, nice!!
I bet Joseph isn't one of them....
Joseph completely took 11-year-old me by surprise! Never trusted a character again after that XD
Given how obviously guilty Brenda Carlton was, I still don’t understand how anyone could’ve thought Nancy was the arsonist. Me thinks there’s some corruption in the River Heights police force.
Quite possibly!!
@@WizardKittenYTYou’re so nice! I made that silly conspiracy theory comment because I was angry about the plot of the game since I’m way too sensitive.
Love this!
Yay!!
would you have liked the returning culprit thing work if you knew who the culprit was right from the beginning like knew the escaped from jail
Did they even try to make Brenda's reveal a mystery? It was painfully obvious from the get-go.
Yeah, that’s one nitpick I have with the game. Given how suspicious Brenda was it’s hard to understand why the police suspected Nancy instead of further investigating Brenda.
When you say "Guessed", you really mean "felt certain". There were lots of games where I guessed right, but probably don't deserve much credit for doing it. And there were lots of games where I felt reasonably certain. Haunted Mansion, for example. It obviously wasn't Charlie. Abby? Maybe, but she was so wrapped up in her spook game that it seemed unlikely that she had another racket. Rose? The fact that she said that bit about "Sometimes I think this place would be worth more burned to the ground" seemed to automatically eliminate her. Nobody thinking about actually doing it would say that openly. And nothing else pointed her way. Louis? Well yeah, we saw through the bookcase that he was hunting for the treasure, and was so paranoid about it that he'd have us thrown out for saying we heard about gum bo fu in a book. So, I wasn't positive it was him, but reasonably certain, sure. I wouldn't have been flabbergasted if it was Abby, but I was pretty sure it was Louis.
It might make a good video to go through each game, and try to figure out who was the most likely suspect 10 seconds before the culprit revealed themselves in the endgame. Rank from Least Likely to Most Likely, who is going to be your Mystery Date. For Haunted Mansion, for example, just before Louis stepped out, I would have ranked them from Least Likely to Most Likely: Charlie, Rose, Abby, Louis.
Trying to think of some others. For Ghost Dogs, just before the reveal, I would have ranked (from Least Likely to Most): Ranger Akers, Red, Emily. It could have been Red, but no real motive suggested itself, while Emily was profiting.
For Shadow Ranch, I'd have ranked them Dave, Tex, Mary, Shorty. Dave was beefcake, Tex had been a seemingly sinister character who had been softened by having a romance with Mary, so it made little literary sense to harden him again. Mary... maybe. Shorty seemed a little more conniving and exploitative. So, not a certainty, but probable.
I'm only thinking now of ones where I was more or less right. There were others where I was wrong, or had no idea. Like in Shattered Medallion, I knew it wasn't Sonny, but it could have been any of the others.
In how many games were you sure it was someone that it turned out not to be?
I can't honestly remember! Usually how it works for me is that I'm sure and then I'm right or I just don't commit because I don't have a definite answer.
Hey Dwayne Powers stop pretending that You are Satan when You come to strangle Nancy in The Game Over Screen for Stay Tuned for Danger Ending I'm not sure if that was intentional by Her Interactive but I still think that He looks like Satan for that Scene I know that I have said that before but still it's true
if you can guess the culprit corectly i wonder if thats good or bad from a mystery point of view and im talking about all detective books/movies/tv shows in general have you read the nancy drew books
Personally, I’d say it depends on how the player is able to guess it. In Ransom of The Seven Ships that’s a bad sign because there were hardly any other characters and none of them could have possibly kidnapped Bess. But in Stay Tuned for Danger and Alibi in Ashes, I’d say that’s a good thing because it demonstrates how much thought and effort went into the writing in order to make the culprit reveals seem as logical as possible. WizardKitten didn’t guess the culprit in The Silent Spy, but that’s not necessarily a good thing because the character was too underdeveloped.
@@avalasialove which category does royal tower go into cause people in this comment section says it was easy to find out lisa was the culprit good or bad that it was easy personally