Some Great Tires For Your Dirt Bike | Shinko "Cheater" Tires
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Let's talk tires for a little bit. You can either had a really good performing tire, or you can have a long lasting tire. Generally speaking, you can’t have both of them at the same time. With that said, there are many different options out there and choosing a tire can be a daunting task. Here are a couple of tires you might have overlooked because of the brand name, but they are actually very good dirt bike tires.
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I just had my first race on this 505 Cheeter with the tubless system. It was through the nasty roots and rocks of new england for 2 hours at a ski area. Absolutely amazing! I have been running trials tires for a number of years now and the Cheeter was at least equal to, if not better than, the trials tire. With the added benefits of the knobs, better breaking and better in mud I feel very confident on this tire already!
These tires grip so well, you can actually remove the kickstand from your bike..........
the Shinko 216 MX Fatty SF soft is a super front, less deflection, better bump absorption, love it
I swear by my Shinko tires. I’m glad you’re doing reviews on them to spread the great news about them. I use the 216mx up front. If you get a chance, I would highly recommend this tire for front instead of the 546. The 216 Mx is amazing in slick rock conditions. Tanks again and God bless.
Shinko tires are sweet! Great video and love your merch Kyle, I've ordered a bunch. Nice shirts!
I love the Shinko cheaters! I also ran tubliss on them. I’ve been actually pretty surprised at the life I’ve been getting out of it but really good grip and very predictable.
I run the Shinko 244 on my KTM 350. I have to say it is the best tire I have ever run. They do plenty well in the rocky dirt here in CO and I have total confidence with it on the street. I have about 30-40 hours on it and they are hardly worn!
I'm in Colorado and have a 350, too. Though about 244s, but was worried they aren't aggressive enough.
I have had a 505 Cheater on my 250f for the last 20 months (more than a year and a half) and it still has lots of life left in it. No plans to change it anytime soon. Best tire EVER IMO.
The caveat being the tire benefits those who maintain traction on hard surfaces. Spin the tire excessively and it will wear out like anything else.
Dbestttt
That is so true about those tires, my 525 has lugs tore off but it still goes like a champ
I have just over 800 miles on my 505 tires and they still hook up great
The Shinko 525 cheater is the best thing I’ve done to any of my bikes over the last 20 years. The traction is amazing. I ride High desert and tights mountain single track.
I run the 505 cheater on my Freeride. Love it! With Tubliss of course.
Where to spend your money Suspension>Tires>Protection>Engine/Exhaust. I've never had any pipe or any engine mod (head or cam) improve my riding or riding experience, but what a world of difference having a correctly valved and sprung suspension makes and fresh rubber is always helpful! Just did a day at Rabbit Valley and even running high pressures in my tires, I didn't wash out or have the rear slip on my bike because I'm running new tires (Kenda Triples) which actually grip on the rocks and hardpack amazing well; so far I've got 2 days of desert riding on them and they work good in that terrain; when these wear out I'll either get these or the equilibrium; whichever is cheaper at the moment.
I love Goldentyre, but I hate the price, especially if you are buying 3-4 at a time. The Shinko is a very close second with a great price! Not to mention, that 505 hooks up like glue!
I used the Motoz mountain hybrid on my 200xc for about 750 miles, then the bike was stolen. That was the best rear tire in my opinion for the terrain I ride. The front I swapped at the same time was a Shinko I believe.
I ride the foothills in and around Denver - Central City/Blackhawk , rampart, etc.
I replaced that stolen bike with a 530exc-r. I really want to go back to a two-stroke - they fit my riding style/technique a lot better.
I live in the same area as you - were you using a 110 or 120, thinking of giving the Motoz a try. Thanks
I'm going to add that shinko tires are Yokohama tires rebranded so they must be good
The 505 is the only rear tire I use here in the mountains of BC Canada. Great vid, great review.
Same here in Alberta. The 505 is THE tire to have for this terrain.
Reminds me a bit of the old Metzler 6 day tyre, soft and gummy offering tons of amazing grip, wears quickly but still offers heaps of traction when wearing down.
I’ve run multiple cheater tires including the 525. Current tire is the Kenda IBEX and no other tire I’ve had can compare. The wear is also amazingly long on the Kenda.
Started running the Shinko cheater tires on my last tire change and I have had a good experience also. They haven’t worn too much and I haven’t chunked the knobs either. I’m running tubliss at 6psi in the rear. I need to check out a 525 to see how big an improvement their is in the sand.
I ride with the 525 and they do wear quickly but even a worn-out tire has a lot of grip I really love those tires
Robert Townsend How much street riding do you do?
@@ED-on8to street? If you are riding any street you do not want these tires
I'm in the AZ desert and have been struggling with dunlop mx tires. I can't wait to try a shinko out here.
Just ordered a 525 in 120 width for my 17 Te300 can’t wait to try it out.
Very nice. For MX, I love my Starcross 5.
Once i started running the 525 cheater, i wont run anything else... This tire digs deep for a bite!
Now pair that up with a shinko 216mx front and you will have an awesome single track setup!
Love the 525! Might try a 505 this summer when it dries out. I’ve heard the 516 is a better front tire than the 546.
I don’t ride without them. Kenda IBEX is also very good.
man I ordered a new 525a week ago you posted just a few days late I'll order my next one from your link
Got 35 hrs. on 525 lost about a dozen knobs but still works great. Rigid sidewalls a pain to mount but worth it. Recommend.
Kyle, great video. I run the 505's too on my 250xc and 300xcw. Great all around tire. If you get a chance try the Michelin Starcross 5 up front. Hands down the best front tire I have ever run. It's light weight, tough, yet offers precision handling. Cheers!
@@ccenduro , I have not had any problems mounting the new Starcross 5's, I run both mousses and tubliss.
Nice tires. I am running the 525 rear on a Beta 300rr and the fatty up front. 525 is a little squirrelly feeling for the first 30 min of riding, then seems to settle in. Has held up well even in heavy creek rock use. I am running the 110 they didn't have the 120 in stock last time I went to order it.
You have to try the sedon mx907hp. I've used it for 100 hours and it still has a ton of tread left. It works great in anything from deep sand to hard shell rock.
ive noticed that with tubliss tire carcass can wear before knobs on tires if you run at low pressure. I had a mx907hp on for a long time, ran at 4psi, and it still had tread but carcass seemed to lose stiffness.. so I swapped in out with a battlecross x30 and its night and day difference because carcass is fresh. anyway..
Long lasting and good performing tyre is Metzeler Six days Extreme
I agree I'm on my 3rd set of these tires, I have ktm 500 and they grip everything plus dot approved
Just ordered a 505 through your link. Can't wait to try a gummie!
Thanks Kyle I’m actually curious how did you set up your account with Rocky Mountain is that something you’d want to disclose . And your right what a ez way to support /thank you for all the info you provide
I run a Sedona mx907hp on my klx300. Run them on all my trail bikes including a wr250f and a ttr230. Very hard and stiff tire but the lugs are so deep that it will dig even though the tire has very minimal flex. Though on my rm250 and cr125, I run maxxis maxxcross for trail riding, they seem to handle the spinning and aggressive riding a little better
i'm currently running maxxis maxcross IT tires on all my bikes, its an awesome tire. i might try the shinko 505s next!
I had Maxxis tyres but they're regulated to have shorter knobs. I dont know if all of them are.
@@user-xz4jd5vu6o i'm actually suprised by the IT tire, the knobs for the yz250 are long. for the ttr 125 they're a bit shorter but still great. idk if all maxxis tires are that way though
For a Gummy, I think the New IRC VE33s is the Unicorn that works everywhere. But its only avail in a 110/100 as far as i know
20 hours? 😳 i cant afford that lol i ride probably 6 hours every ride, thats a new tire every 2 weeks
Ya I couldn’t aftbst either. I put at least 20 hours on a bike in a week. But I also only have two full sized bikes and a pit bike. He has like 10 bikes at a time. So he rides a lot of different bikes at once
InstaBlaster.
Good promo video for the Shinko. How does the Sedona series compare? Would you be willing to put a multiple comparison together?
Good tire for gnarly stuff for sure. Seemed to suffer a bit on breaking on the steep downhills. Ill def run it again though.
I run shinkos on my cruiser down here in Florida, only tire that stays planted in the rain and 1/4 the price!
Been thinking of trying tusk recon on next tire swap
Up here in the Northwest I use Michelin s12s or a Michelin star cross or Dunlop MX 33 never tried shinko but I might have to now
You should try the motoz xtreme hybrid tire! This tire is the best tire ever! Really good on slippery rock and also really good in sand and mud! The best!
Soon as you said guys in az I started laughing. I'm in az and love the 525s! I'll have to try out the 505. Just bought my first ever dunlop at81, which I know you've said your not a huge fan of. I'll guess I'll have my opinion of it soon
I run the big (120/100-18) 525 cheater on a small bike .. (Husaberg Te 125) and right now i'm with 41!!! hours on them and I have decent amount of rubber left.. traction is very good.. I'm sure it will not work that way if you 100Kg/220lbs on a Te 300 but for a medium sized rider on a small bike its very good lasting, actually a big pleasant surprise.. I also read that the shinko 120/100 is a "big 120" and the 110 is a "small 110".. many people on the net says that the 120 lasts longer. my next one will be the 505 i believe.. I'm not the full throttle all day kina guy.. and my favorite terrain is forest & single truck..wet or dry. they perform very good on wet limestone and mud.. tubliss of course (:
The Motoz gummy is one of those unicorns that hook up well and last long.
Get the hard compound, the 525, it lasted two seasons for me and even hooks up great when it’s bald
That looks identical to the metzler sixdays edition tire which is dot approved. I'm on my 3rd set and love them.
If you want a 525 I would recommend buying the 120, not the 110. It's slightly harder with noticeably bigger tread blocks and it gets even better traction and lasts longer.
Iv been using the starcross 5 but once they hit a certain wear point they suck but they are awesome up untill that point
Great review 👍 Have you ever tried Mitas XT754? If not, you should definitely try them out and give a comparing review against the Shinkos 🙂
Hey have you tried the new tusk recon hybrid tire yet? I was thinking about giving it a try I think it’s only $59 which seems like a great deal
The cheaters are pretty good for a knobby, but try a kenda equilibrium, that's my winter tire and the perllie mt 43 is my summer tire hear in the northern California mountains.
I just bought a set of Shinkos for my bike the trials set
I been using the 505 for summer and the 525 winter, just tried the Tusk Recon and it’s my new favorite tyre check it out 👍
In Ireland and uk ktm come with maxxis tyres. My front is still on after 80hrs riding and the back was changed at 60hrs. Good longevity but very hard compound. The front isn’t too bad but I didn’t like the rear
I'm sticking with the Metzeler six days, not a very good tyre but the rear one lasted for 60 hours on my ktm 125
Nice video. I did not care for the braking on the 505 but the traction was excellent. Kyle, you should also try the IRC M5B, Kenda Ibex, AT81EX, and MotoZ Arena Hybrid Gummy. I like the Ibex traction the best but the MotoZ for a blend of durability and traction. M5B is the best for deep mud, loam, sand and hillclimbing.
You hit the nail on the head! Motoz extreme hybrid is also amazing. The M5B is the best soft terrain tire I've ever used!
Love by goldentyre gt 216x gummy, with tubliss @ 8psi, but they don't last very long. The gt216aa fatty front on the other hand lasts forever, and it's width makes or float over everything. Was planning on trying a motoz extreme hybrid next.
@@mnichoson542I've still got 2 more 216x gummy's,and another 216 90/100aa fatty front, although I don't think the fatty front I have will be wearing out anytime soon. I like the idea of an aggressive trials tire, like the xtreme hybrid, and people seem to like them. They also wear pretty well, and are dot approved.
I converted my front rim to 18 in and I run the 505 cheater on the front. I had to make a fixture to help me grind the knobs off the sides so it would fit between my forks but the 505 cheater is the same outside diameter as a standard 21 front tire so I get tons of sidewall but the geometry stays the same
I bought two. I ride in dry, imbedded rock trails that are murder on side knobs. This tire lasted for two rides and was a slick, the front didn't last as long as the rear. Almost as bad as Onelop's oops did I say that out loud, I meant Dunlop. I need durability since nothing gets better grip than another out here.
My favorite tire to date
Running the 505 with UHD tube. Great hook up pretty much everywhere, but just a note on how riding styles effect tire performance. If you are a high rpm tire spinner, then the 505 might not work as well as some other more conventional tires. If you are a low rpm lugger style rider the 505 seems to work better. Also the 505 is not the greatest tire for wet grass track! Ask me how I know!
Nailed it!
Can you make some recommendations for tires that are a good compromise in this way: DURABLE but still decent for single track with rocks and roots. I don't have time for tire changes and replacement.
Hey Kyle! I've been researching good front tires and came across the Shinko 546 as an option, but I have seen a lot of comments online about the sizing being too small. Do you have any experience with this? Many of the comments said that the 80 100/21 was smaller than normal and you have to bump up to the 90 100/21 to get comparable results. Let me know.
What do you think is the best dirt bike tire that is DOT approved?
dunlop D803 is the unicorn!
Wears too fast, sheds the center knobs. I ran them for a while in CO. Loved the traction, did not like the wear.
For the desert and tracks of so cal I only run Dunlop geomax mx33s
pghdave420 yea best all rounder I think. Deserts here in so cal change as you’re riding one minute you be in dirt single track the next in a sand wash and then going up a rocky hillside. The mx33 can hang with anything
do you prefer the 110 or 120 width? and why?
I also love the Shinko cheaters! Obviously they are snatching up a large chunk of the tire market and I suspect other manufacturers will be producing cheaters very soon, which is good for everyone.
I know tire longevity depends on a lot of things but I believe the bike is a major factor. There's a 525 on the back of my XR400R -- a relatively underpowered bike -- and the tire is lasting a very long time, currently about 15 hard hours on the tire and it shows minimal wear. Whereas my WR450F is very powerful and destroyed a 525 in about 20 hours. That is all. Thanks Brothersen for another good video.
IRC M5B EVO is my unicorn. It's the business.
I've considered this one as the VE33s isn't always easy to get. I worry about wet logs and rocks with it though.
In the 250 vs 300 video, what where the tires you were running cause I have the same hard packed dusty lose ground but it occasionally damp. I just bought a 120 dollar dunlop mx52 but it has no traction
try the irc volcanduro ve 33s it seems to be great in all conditions ..only place i found it was slavens racing
Motoz - Mountain Hybrid "simply the best"
Bill Fields how long does it last you?
Also Shinko doesn't leak with tubliss!! Seals really well unlike Motoz.
I ordered a motoz intermediate enduro tire but don’t use tubliss. Are there any problems with it if I use a tube
@@superlativegoose5447 No
525 is great. And cheap ;)
A fellow UA-camr recommended the Motoz Arena Hybrid Gummy to me. I've been running it for a year now, and I love it. I haven't used the Shinko to compare. I might the 505 this time to know how they compare vs the price difference. I'd be curious to hear your take on the Motoz.
I love my motoz I/t's
Not that I suggest it, but to whom else these three dirt bikes spaced like this all positioned in this way ring any bells of other similar type videos.
You know what else puts food on the table? A real job. And your family will thank you
Dude has 4 new bikes talking about food on the table lmao.
what size tire to you like to use. front and bike
Can you do a video on the shinko 525 vs maxxis maxxcross si?
I mostly ride enduro. I ride up in duck creek village Utah. Go on a lot of rocky terrain. Would this tire be good for that type of terrain or should I look at something else?
hi kyle is noticed that the bikes in video are all 110 do you no what pros and cons over 120, i’ve 110 on my 08 exc but thinking about going 120 next time thanks
Hey Kyle I was wondering if you run the cr at 80:1 with amsoil just picked up a 03 and wanted to know if it works pretty good on it
Run what the oil recommends. Its concentration or thickness is reflected in the mix ratio. I'v run Walmart 2 stroke boat oil for 15 years or so at 40:1. it works well as the expensive stuff as far as I can tell.
Have you tried the Kenda Equilibrium? I’m running them with Nitro Mousse.
Front is a Goldentyre GT216AA.
Buddies also like the Kenda Ibex
I have had both and the Equilibrium lasts way longer than the Ibex and get as good of traction... the Ibex completely shredded to peices
If you had a link to Fortnine in Canada I would use it.
Is there a tire that are good on sand and rocks?
IRC M5B hands down best all around tire.
Cool tires for sure I run the 505 and Tubliss on the rear of my kdx in gnarly rocky single track here in Central Pennsylvania.
I've got a kdx too up in mass I'm looking for some good traction that'll last on the rear how long does your rear tire last and what are you running
By what are you running I meant like are you running the roads to get to the trails if so how long to the tires last, I'm running Pirelli rear on my 02 kdx220 and it lasts a while on the road in a month in and 400 miles in and barely any wear on the tires but I need more traction in the rocky areas
Hashtag Moto umm I have a 2000 kdx 200 and have 4 rides on it and run 7-8 psi on rear with Tubliss. Tire has just started to round off the edges and barely any noticeable chunking. I will say my dad runs same tire set up on his crf450x (more power) and he’s ridden that tire twice as much as I have and as the video says even worn down that tire still hooks up. For $65 it’s pretty cost effective to replace as you need though.
Hashtag Moto no road rides to trails we unload and ride at Reading Famous Outdoors in the coal region of Pa but head to mostly single track rocky, roots, Etc.
@@ericewing3615 same here the Pirelli is awesome on the road but as soon as I start touching slippery rocks and wet logs its like an ice skating rink lol
Have you used the Motoz mountain hybrid? I'm a big fan for durability
Do you recommend 18 or 19 for single track riding? I live on the East Coast and currently run the OEM 19" was thinking about grabbing an 18"
I run cheaters. Rears, run them about 15 hours, flip them, run another 15. And even then still out perform some brand new “CC/off-road tires. Great tire! 525 definitely better in mud.
Bridgestone x30 for me!
Not a cheater but I will certainly buy tires through you from now on!
Mitas XT 754 Unicorn!
Get a pirelli scorpion I did 200 hours on mine strapped to a 250x and even in the last 10 hours I would still pass these silly expensive ktms on hill climbs and mud sections.
Hey Kyle, what do you do with all your used tires? I have a stack growing in my garage. Do you have any recommendations for recycling or use for old tires?
i also had a huge stack in my garage i give them to some local kids to go riding
Take them to your motorcycle dealer and they should take them with a disposal fee of about $1.50 each.
Burn em