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  • Continuing with my coverage of the Four Horsewomen, this episode of Why EVERYONE Plays will be featuring Riven!
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  • @Blazer951
    @Blazer951 Місяць тому +271

    at 0:30 you said: "This episode of why no one plays"

    • @taxevasion6765
      @taxevasion6765 Місяць тому +44

      we only hope

    • @abdiellopez7148
      @abdiellopez7148 Місяць тому +7

      @@taxevasion6765 we also hope arcane will reboot demacia's lore [like full on reboots demacia, no like with pnz] by destroying previously established stories including mageseeker but what are the chances of that!?

    • @joelisvysniauskas4653
      @joelisvysniauskas4653 Місяць тому

      ​​@@abdiellopez7148oh no because we can't have a world where the people dressed in white do evil things that would be terible

    • @VarsVerum
      @VarsVerum  Місяць тому +91

      WOOPS.

    • @BlackHair-zx4qc
      @BlackHair-zx4qc Місяць тому +1

      ​@@VarsVerumXD ?

  • @pedrohenriquealvesdasilva1791
    @pedrohenriquealvesdasilva1791 Місяць тому +204

    i think that when you start playing league, and guet you ass whooped by a riven you either start playing the champ, or you just hold a grudge against her for the rest of your life, i chose the second option.

    • @ryanfitzpatrick3008
      @ryanfitzpatrick3008 Місяць тому +5

      I chose the first😉

    • @vaporsouls6752
      @vaporsouls6752 Місяць тому +34

      Top lane is literally "braindead stat checker fucks the braindead mobility, braindead mobility fucks the braindead range, braindead range then fucks braindead stat checker"

    • @josh2066
      @josh2066 Місяць тому

      ​@@vaporsouls6752 Mad

    • @dangng7079
      @dangng7079 Місяць тому +3

      @@vaporsouls6752 so true lmao

    • @terumihazama8629
      @terumihazama8629 Місяць тому

      Might just be because every year she finds a way to com back, she is uninteresting to play against, as she jsut all in you perma or play vuss. there is NOTHING hard with the champ :p try and do the combos in practice you'll be able to do it in like, 15 mins max she should just have somehting, not mana but something that has drawbacks.

  • @cookiecreep9204
    @cookiecreep9204 Місяць тому +456

    I'm still amazed that she basically functions so well mainly through a bug that lets you cancel everything to pretty much instaburst people.

    • @mannyvalerio6822
      @mannyvalerio6822 Місяць тому +68

      That's how combos were born in fighting games too, so it's kinda perfect.

    • @Tiagocf2
      @Tiagocf2 Місяць тому +65

      That's because Riot basically made her bugs features at this point, and they balance her around it.
      For then to remove it now, I'd say they'll need to rework her a bit

    • @thejedisonic67
      @thejedisonic67 Місяць тому +23

      @@Tiagocf2 And i feel like someone at riot would fix those bugs in one patch, fuck things up so bad that everyone complains, then it gets reverted hard like 2 patches later.

    • @del2183
      @del2183 Місяць тому +3

      @@Tiagocf2 They most certainly need to rework her.

    • @COIN_a
      @COIN_a Місяць тому +23

      @@del2183 There are a few champs like her where the only 'counterplay' to the character is hoping the player doesn't know how to do something, lee is another one that comes to mind. Thing is we are over a decade past the window where these champs could have had any significant changes, riot knows that the 1tricks of these characters will quit if they do anything to them now

  • @SamuelAguirreSoto-or2gw
    @SamuelAguirreSoto-or2gw Місяць тому +135

    3:06 ah yes, my favorite riven onetrick.
    Alouise

    • @reesehall5393
      @reesehall5393 Місяць тому +13

      AloisNL best educational content imo

    • @Discotechque
      @Discotechque Місяць тому +2

      FOUND THE BEAN TOES

    • @shyjarmainesandiego2283
      @shyjarmainesandiego2283 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@Discotechque
      FOUND A MENTOS

    • @kelmouse29
      @kelmouse29 Місяць тому +1

      FANTA MENTOS GANG

    • @juanfrainsane
      @juanfrainsane Місяць тому +2

      He's the only one that plays her in a sort of different way than the other mentioned too. He puts way more focus on autos than abilities, its quite interesting to see

  • @tambjafever
    @tambjafever Місяць тому +50

    3:34 not the thresh bming after dodging the naut hook only to immediately miss his hook in return

    • @panlis6243
      @panlis6243 Місяць тому +3

      Average support interaction

  • @wafflinxes5224
    @wafflinxes5224 Місяць тому +207

    4 dashes, 1 shots the ADC, she's both a bruiser and an assassin, you wonder why people like her

    • @BlackHair-zx4qc
      @BlackHair-zx4qc Місяць тому +11

      In general, girls get more popularity. I mean, almost, if you count the 10 most popular champions in the history of the division lol, you will find Lee Thresh and Yasuo, but the rest are all girls, and also the girls get more skins, and I forgot another reason. To main Riven, she is a bunny girl. I feel afraid that lol will transform . Like genchin impact in the future or have done

    • @larfee5191
      @larfee5191 Місяць тому +50

      for the love of god, who doesnt oneshot adc?

    • @theillogicalmindset
      @theillogicalmindset Місяць тому

      @@larfee5191 only one i can think of is (non-ap/non-ad) yuumi if she's in the bathroom afk

    • @Aliens1337
      @Aliens1337 Місяць тому +15

      @@BlackHair-zx4qc Riot gave a statistic that nearly every male player doesn't care about the gender of the champ they are playing as long as that champ is powerful while over 90% of female players only play female champs.

    • @BlackHair-zx4qc
      @BlackHair-zx4qc Місяць тому +7

      @@Aliens1337 Maybe it's Riot's problem because it makes the female characters more powerful so they can sell skins. It's a funnier piece of information. 3 of the characters with the highest skin rate are females, and I don't know who 4 is. Maybe another female. I mean, exploiting the female for material gain is a terrible thing for me, and it's not just Riot's problem. All mob games are like this

  • @Blu_Moon_Owl
    @Blu_Moon_Owl Місяць тому +44

    A friend of mine recently started playing her because he got her Broken Covenant skin and really wanted to see her Griddy dance emote. He’s really good with her too so it’s a win for him

    • @gallanomarkandrea.1787
      @gallanomarkandrea.1787 Місяць тому +4

      Similar story on how I was into Riven atleast 3-4 years ago. In Garena servers when the first spirit blossom event happened there's a free spirit blossom riven you can earn for free. I find it ironic that right now in the Sea server if I ever see riven players with some mastery they always use that skin.

    • @Blu_Moon_Owl
      @Blu_Moon_Owl Місяць тому +3

      @@gallanomarkandrea.1787 funny probably because it’s was free, they like the skin or both

  • @joseph4445
    @joseph4445 Місяць тому +36

    Bringing Pantheon as an example of an AD caster who falls off late-game... that's what us Pantheon players want you to believe as we point and click empW-Q-E one shot your kaisa in a fraction of a second and then have a spell that gives us complete invulnerability from the rest of the team.
    Or manage to sidelane duel pretty much any champion in the game. The 30% passive armor pen is nothing to scoff at.

    • @samuelcavalcanti3345
      @samuelcavalcanti3345 Місяць тому +9

      Bro, this. Current Pantheon actually scales quite well, yea he still sucks against split pushers but anything other than that? He can and will hold up a fight, even possibly kill the enemy. Hes also a decent blind pick, a true gigachad. Love playing Pantheon.

    • @renneverbright
      @renneverbright Місяць тому +5

      speaking as a Senna, absolutely. Pantheon is *the* quintessential example of a CC assassin and I love him for it. you always know where you stand with a Pantheon, even if that place is a grey screen.

    • @edipedipbulmaz
      @edipedipbulmaz Місяць тому

      Pantheon scales very well into late wdym

    • @joseph4445
      @joseph4445 Місяць тому

      @@samuelcavalcanti3345 He actually can respond to splitpushers quite well.
      Botrk on Pantheon means that literally any champion will have

    • @samuelcavalcanti3345
      @samuelcavalcanti3345 Місяць тому

      @@joseph4445 Lmao, he cant. Theres a reason even Spearshot hates split pushers, they get too tanky, have too much sustain and a lot of them outscale pantheon.
      Mundo? Fiora? Jax? What elo are you even playing in to see Pantheon beat those 3 late game?
      Edit: In fact, pantheon has negative winrate against ALL of the champions you mentioned, Mundo being the lowest at 44% winrate. You either dont play enough Pantheon or play in iron my guy.

  • @mathwiz3145
    @mathwiz3145 Місяць тому +28

    Why everyone plays riven:
    Because we all thought at one point we could do what box box did
    We were wrong
    But
    We could dream

    • @lissandrafreljord7913
      @lissandrafreljord7913 Місяць тому

      Because people like flashy mechanics. So mobility + damage + cool character design makes them automatically popular.

    • @mathwiz3145
      @mathwiz3145 Місяць тому

      @@lissandrafreljord7913 think riot could make a “cool” tank support character that has low damage, high utility, but is still fun to play? Or, is it the lack of damage that makes a tanky support not cool or popular?

    • @Za_Phantom
      @Za_Phantom Місяць тому

      i mean rell was pretty close, but she's super inconsistent and her ceiling isn't the highest@@mathwiz3145

    • @xenonwrath1457
      @xenonwrath1457 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@mathwiz3145rakan or Camille or ksante mid or top

  • @Salamangreatenjoyer
    @Salamangreatenjoyer Місяць тому +63

    when are we getting "why everyone bans zed?"

    • @insheepsclothing5574
      @insheepsclothing5574 Місяць тому +11

      I can at least give you the reason I do it: I mostly play mages that Zed feasts on so it's a good insurance for the laning phase, but furthermore from my observation Zed mains are extremely devoted to their champion... meaning they legit can't play anything else properly. So not only do I get rid of a champion who's a pain in my ass, I also end up facing a guy who can barely play the champion they picked.

    • @Salamangreatenjoyer
      @Salamangreatenjoyer Місяць тому +10

      @@insheepsclothing5574 actually im a zed main/otp myself, i 100% agree with what you said right here. i literally CANNOT play anything else. I just wanted to see a vars video on it because i do like his information delivery style.

    • @MrJuggalo909
      @MrJuggalo909 Місяць тому +1

      I've ban Kayn every game since S.12

    • @CormacThunderStar
      @CormacThunderStar Місяць тому +1

      Zed used to be my perma ban but at the moment there are champs who are much worse to face. Especially since Zeds hydra rush farming play style is not really a thing anymore

    • @juanfrainsane
      @juanfrainsane Місяць тому

      Zed is incredibly weak nowadays. I honestly prefer to play against him than every other midlaner. This season alone i've witnessed at least 8 fed zeds that couldnt carry the game, both in my and in the enemy team

  • @syrxph3675
    @syrxph3675 Місяць тому +12

    Boxbox’s old videos singlehandedly got me into league.

  • @noahzhellos8344
    @noahzhellos8344 Місяць тому +19

    0:50 that Jax took negative damage from a full MF ult 😞
    Edit: I love the explanations being made as if the same thing wouldn't have happened if this were a Teemo whose only armor was a Zhonya's and didn't use the active. Guys. I've played a lot of adc and top alike. This is just the way the game is played as long as the top laner isn't dumb enough to be out of exp range of 50 cs

    • @captaintenacity8761
      @captaintenacity8761 Місяць тому +1

      Hollon, you’re right. What in the actual f*ck was that about 🫢

    • @rhino1548
      @rhino1548 Місяць тому +1

      i mean she was lvl 6... while jax was 12. imagine the item diff as well

    • @noahzhellos8344
      @noahzhellos8344 Місяць тому +5

      @@captaintenacity8761 Typical adc things. Be underleveled from sharing exp in a lane with 2 people, the top laner 4 levels over you regardless of being 5/0 or 0/5 with 30 less cs just waving his level gap over you. Good times, good times.

    • @riven4121
      @riven4121 Місяць тому +1

      Well the 7 level difference would be it.
      Guarantee you she had no items and actually built lethality. Jax E reduces AoE damage by 25% and his ult gives him armour.

    • @Tiagocf2
      @Tiagocf2 Місяць тому

      he had Deaths Dance too probably

  • @alexandregehin8665
    @alexandregehin8665 Місяць тому +4

    I've been in love with this champion for so many seasons, she's so fun and rewarding to play, even as low elo player you get your moments of spotlight, her builds vary a lot through the seasons as well as her role in a team

  • @Rivalrvn
    @Rivalrvn Місяць тому +25

    can confirm riven DOES have sauce, good vid mr. vars

  • @davidlee4144
    @davidlee4144 Місяць тому

    I waited a long time for this episode on Riven, one of my favorite champs. Thank you Vars !!!

  • @insertuncreativenamehere
    @insertuncreativenamehere Місяць тому +1

    I would love to see an Everything Wrong With Bel'Veth.
    Also, Riven is one of those characters who I started playing because the crafting tab gave me a skin for her. No regrets. But also, her kit being centered around "freedom" is thematically fitting since she's trying to get free from Noxus (please excuse me if I'm rusty on lore, I haven't read it for awhile).

  • @christiansandoval587
    @christiansandoval587 Місяць тому

    i was about to sleep but yaaay ty for posting

  • @TheRealRadgost
    @TheRealRadgost Місяць тому

    "Or the abundance of 200 years champs" is a fantastic dig. Well played sir.

  • @lissandra8539
    @lissandra8539 Місяць тому

    I like the music in the background. Old Pick/Ban phase music from proplay

  • @TheDoctorOfThrills
    @TheDoctorOfThrills Місяць тому +5

    I don't think I've seen a riven in my game in literally years

    • @torri776
      @torri776 Місяць тому

      Riven is a troll pick outside of the highest echelons of solo queue (she's almost unplayable in pro) due to being hard countered by heavily armored units.

  • @ibrahim5463
    @ibrahim5463 Місяць тому +36

    To all the people saying: no one plays riven
    Remember that frozen heart ninja tabis are 3400 gold combined,3400 to shutdown riven(who has no maxhealth or true damage),the moment tanks fall off you would all start going back to baning her

    • @gallanomarkandrea.1787
      @gallanomarkandrea.1787 Місяць тому +2

      As a Riven main, I agree. Those 2 items can literally make riven useless 1v1 wise. Even BC is not enough, but who knows if grudge + lethality items can fix that. In this meta Riven doesn't feel like she's able to match tanks now compared to last season. I do think a drain tank/bruiser build like rav hydra, shojin, BC, sundered sky, and death stance, maw, or possible a jak'sho can help match tanks I think.

    • @1lik3Fir33mbl3m
      @1lik3Fir33mbl3m Місяць тому +4

      @@gallanomarkandrea.1787 I definitely lost to Riven as a tank, because I didnt respect her early game enough, but obviously if you sit back and wait to get the armor necessary, she is basically useless

    • @Tiagocf2
      @Tiagocf2 Місяць тому

      that's just skill issue tbh
      LDR and BotRK exists and people still plays tanks
      if your champion is so reliant in one-comboing the enemy that 2000g worth of armor (2 chain vests + armor from boots) completely counters it, I'm sorry but the champion is deeply flawed and not because tanks are op

    • @ibrahim5463
      @ibrahim5463 Місяць тому +2

      @@Tiagocf2 ah yes you are speaking facts,KAPPACHUNGUSMAXIMUSDELEXUEEDITIon

    • @torri776
      @torri776 Місяць тому

      Riven is either broken against a glass cannon team with no armor across all 5 members or completely useless against a normal team with just 2 heavily armored targets.

  • @ed765super
    @ed765super Місяць тому

    1:30 that's really cool. And says something about the team bihind her that she can consistently hold such a dedicated playerbase

  • @kamiliciousss
    @kamiliciousss Місяць тому +4

    im new to the game and i just went against a riven so i really wish this was a “why no one plays” 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 was trying out top recently like last night with friends and this womans tower dive is insane and it didnt help i was playing kayle 😭😭😭😭😭 really good video tho keep up the good work vars 🥰

    • @1lik3Fir33mbl3m
      @1lik3Fir33mbl3m Місяць тому +4

      if you try out toplane, you should start playing stuff like Malphite, Garen, Mundo, Cho'gath. They are better to start understanding the role tbh. Riven takes you too much time and doesn't teach the macro side only the micro.
      But if you insist on playing her, maybe start watching Alois (the dude he mentioned in the one trick ponies section, his channel is called AloisNL and he has a lot of educational content on a lot of champions not only Riven.)

    • @kamiliciousss
      @kamiliciousss Місяць тому

      @@1lik3Fir33mbl3m oh i wasnt trying her!! i was playing kayle into one with a decent mastery (since i play with friends who’ve played longer than me)

    • @ryanfitzpatrick3008
      @ryanfitzpatrick3008 Місяць тому +4

      Kayle is probably the most abusable match up if the riven knows the matchup better.
      Wouldn't suggest trying out top lane by playing kayle, that champ gets stomped if you aren't sure what you're doing

    • @kamiliciousss
      @kamiliciousss Місяць тому

      @@ryanfitzpatrick3008 oh for sure the laning phase sucked 😭😭😭😭😭 but once riven started roaming a bit more and wasn’t really getting anything out of it i was able to hit lvl 11 and then eventually lvl 16 😁

  • @sagittariussage43
    @sagittariussage43 Місяць тому

    As a season 5 hay-day riven main, I can say seasons 7-9 were the most fun with how fighting game/combo based she was with the extended fights. Nowadays the leads we get are extinguished by catchup exp, gold and non existent death timers. I do still play her and will continue to do so, just don't look for me top lane

  • @crunchtime6244
    @crunchtime6244 Місяць тому +70

    Shes more of why no one plays from her pick rate history but ok .

    • @magical571
      @magical571 Місяць тому +3

      True. I like her but if anything she is averagely picked.

    • @Hopeisdead39
      @Hopeisdead39 Місяць тому +16

      she in the top 20 or top 10 at nearly all times stop the cap

    • @samuelcavalcanti3345
      @samuelcavalcanti3345 Місяць тому +9

      @@Hopeisdead39 Her pickrate has been 4-6% for years straight, its not unpopular but far from "everyone plays" like when other champs are buffed and insta get to 10%+ pickrate like Jax, Yone or Aatrox.

    • @veken410
      @veken410 Місяць тому +1

      Let our boy clickbait us to see him rant about his most hated champ

    • @thanhao5500
      @thanhao5500 Місяць тому

      ​@@Hopeisdead39its has been year seen i saw someone play riven and kennen

  • @eltonjohntubola3212
    @eltonjohntubola3212 Місяць тому +1

    The 4 Horse Girls of Apocalypse. Playing Malphite in similar game skill is the only consistent counter on them.

  • @CodeName_24
    @CodeName_24 Місяць тому

    What always surprises me is the more cinematic footage for gameplay. How do you get to capture those?

  • @datguy6745
    @datguy6745 Місяць тому

    I like that you mentioned fightinggames in the context of riven, ive always drawn that parallel too haha
    As an intermediate to advanced Tekken player, i cant get good at riven though. Granted i didnt try nearly enough
    to be good yet, but damn shes not easy at all.

    • @thosebloodybadgers8499
      @thosebloodybadgers8499 Місяць тому

      At least with certain fighting games you get a buffer for cancels, even systems like gatlings or chains for normals.
      Riven's cancels are more like links and considering how she also needs to have the correct positioning within an XY axis and her being about the only character who uses that sort of cancel as an integral part of her mechanical expression? Yeah, I can see why she's so difficult. I'd rather learn Naoto dash-cancel combos than try learning Riven. At least that mf looks cool instead of ice sliding around with old League animations.

  • @blungalblorg
    @blungalblorg Місяць тому

    IV BEEN WAITING

  • @waterfallgentle2343
    @waterfallgentle2343 Місяць тому

    Riven main here. Thank you for this video! I started playing League not so long ago and got her as a reward. Recently got Silver 3 and still in love with her. She feels great and fun. Yeah, she can fall behind easily but if done right she is the force to reckon with. This game is quite fun, love to everyone

  • @asuddenredfox3626
    @asuddenredfox3626 Місяць тому +32

    I’m gonna be honest…I haven’t seen a SINGLE riven player in over a year

    • @thejedisonic67
      @thejedisonic67 Місяць тому +3

      Everyone be too busy on their K'Santes, Fioras, and Aatroxs

    • @samuelcavalcanti3345
      @samuelcavalcanti3345 Місяць тому +7

      The only times i see Riven being picked, i instantly pick Renekton/Malphite/Poppy and shes complete dogshit. I climbed to D3 without seeing a SINGLE Riven, and the one i saw in D2 got stomped anyways cause she banned Renekton and i picked Poppy lmfao i really don't know how people complain about her so much.

    • @1lik3Fir33mbl3m
      @1lik3Fir33mbl3m Місяць тому +2

      @@samuelcavalcanti3345 they wanna beat her with champs that she can beat, also most people don't play tanks and especially not the tanks that hard counter her.

    • @samuelcavalcanti3345
      @samuelcavalcanti3345 Місяць тому +7

      @@1lik3Fir33mbl3m but its not only tanks that counter her nowadays. Volibear, Urgot, Kennen, even Camille and Garen have a high winrate against her so people have tons of options... but they either get counterpick or pick shit like Aatrox/GP into Riven and then complain, when they literally wasted their pick into a champ she bursts.

    • @thejedisonic67
      @thejedisonic67 Місяць тому

      @@samuelcavalcanti3345 Urgot also works decently against a riven, no amount of cancel dashes can compete with good ol passive shotgun

  • @cetofox
    @cetofox Місяць тому +1

    7:37 well i feel like Camille is more of an Anti-Carry than Riven because her R is exclusively single Target and her E won't really hit multiple enemies. That could also explain the presence of Camille support because Camille R is probably one of the best lockdown abilities in the game cause it basically traps one opponent and makes them vulnerable for a few seconds. Riven on the other hand has more potential to carry a teamfight herself.

  • @user-wt6os4wv3f
    @user-wt6os4wv3f Місяць тому +1

    mention : counterplay vs her is real with enough room (unlike fiora ult ) and her dmg isnt bullshit % max hp true dmg

  • @bibule
    @bibule Місяць тому

    I was waiting for a view about her!

  • @jakesghost5267
    @jakesghost5267 Місяць тому +1

    I can't remember the last time I played against a riven

  • @MushokuShiro
    @MushokuShiro Місяць тому

    Wowow there, 8:25 theres a big difference of a 500 shield equipped on a champ with superb mobility, that accompanies %max hp *hybrid* damage and is not tied to the champions other defensive options (mobility) whatsoever and a 400 shield thats attached to the champions most important (and only) defensive utility and offensive too as most of her animation cancels are bound to E, and also is her best dash.

  • @ethanol7294
    @ethanol7294 Місяць тому +11

    Good video man, thanks for it

    • @anophelesmaculipnis162
      @anophelesmaculipnis162 Місяць тому

      Did you watch like the first 2 mins of the video

    • @med3694
      @med3694 Місяць тому

      probably he means throu the history of league in general because nowdays shes not that good

  • @quantumskull2045
    @quantumskull2045 Місяць тому +1

    NGL I really thought your next video was gonna be on the skarner rework, are you waiting for the release onto live servers?

  • @billthegreek
    @billthegreek Місяць тому +5

    you seem to not give enough emphasis on the fact that she cannot deal with tanks. If you're up against riven you should look to rush Tabis and you auto-win your lane without doing basically anything special. And don't get me started on the fact that she doesn't have any sort of healing sustain (which ALL toplaners have), therefore a small mistake can be punishing and can ruin your whole game

  • @s.b.e._9692
    @s.b.e._9692 Місяць тому

    0:23 i really heard synapse, i was expecting ending there

  • @TherealNiqqa
    @TherealNiqqa Місяць тому +3

    At least she only deals Physical damage unlike the other three horsewomen

    • @torri776
      @torri776 Місяць тому +2

      That's why she's so worthless against Tanks. The others can at least do decently into Tanks, and in the case of Fiora, completely obliterate them.

    • @Okami400
      @Okami400 Місяць тому

      her absurd mobility makes up for that.

  • @bmac4
    @bmac4 Місяць тому

    One of my favorite examples to talk about this champion is how back in Season 3 a young pro midlaner by the name of Faker shocked the world by bringing her into the midlane and absolutely destroying the competition. This was 17 year old Faker too, back when he could hands diff literally everyone in the world. Lifetime he's a perfect 6-0 when picking her (which is more often than several typical Mid champs like Kata, Vex, and Yone).

  • @CWuerdz
    @CWuerdz Місяць тому

    Now I want an Irelia video, not just the rework retrospective

  • @user-eo5yn6lg5f
    @user-eo5yn6lg5f Місяць тому +1

    0:30 I wish it was a "why no one plays"

  • @mathiassvendsen9788
    @mathiassvendsen9788 Місяць тому

    1:19
    "Don't remind me..."
    *PTSD intensifies*

  • @austinriess9777
    @austinriess9777 Місяць тому +11

    She's very free in terms of mobility, until poppy exists. Then you will realize true pain.

  • @vitonsq3832
    @vitonsq3832 Місяць тому

    You could check Dudu Duelista, a Brazillian riven one trick, one of the best riven one tricks too!

  • @HENTAICOMBO
    @HENTAICOMBO Місяць тому

    I always consider there is two roles in top. one is the play maker, and another is counter maker.
    like Garen vs Irelia, Irelia would be the one making play while Garen punish bad play. this role depend on who have more kit not counter champ.
    like Urgot is counter champ for Riven but Riven still is a play maker while Urgot is a counter maker. if Urgot commit E to make play it's hard to land and need Riven to miss play in the first place. while using E when Riven Q for the third time would land 100% and cancel her Q.

  • @sylvanaswindrunner4357
    @sylvanaswindrunner4357 Місяць тому +5

    I think Gwen is considered a pseudo-horsewoman

    • @CORAGEMPURA011097
      @CORAGEMPURA011097 Місяць тому

      She has insane dps, but she❤lacks cc and defense, even though she has her w, she can easily be destroyed against a pantheon, renekton or sett

    • @sylvanaswindrunner4357
      @sylvanaswindrunner4357 Місяць тому

      @CORAGEMPURA011097 I'd argue that she has more soft cc than fiora has and she o ly has hard cc if she counter the opponents cc

  • @eryalmario5299
    @eryalmario5299 Місяць тому

    Riven was the og overloaded champion along with lee sin and nidalee

  • @kivmorth
    @kivmorth Місяць тому +1

    We got it!!! ❤❤❤

  • @tperry101202
    @tperry101202 Місяць тому

    @vars any chance the shen rework video coming along?

  • @jpuc5568
    @jpuc5568 Місяць тому

    Never seen one riven in solo queue for the past 2 years

  • @benedu3450
    @benedu3450 Місяць тому

    as a wiseman said. riven play see something we can't , a line that if they follow perfectly will make them outplay everything.

  • @mozkuthehermit5909
    @mozkuthehermit5909 Місяць тому +1

    Riven was most played champion at top lane at one point because how strong she is
    She is still strong but there have been new champions and how other champions does Riven's job easier and much less time spent practicing

  • @SebTheSamMarten
    @SebTheSamMarten Місяць тому

    "Yone has to hit an enemy, Yasuo has to move around a lot."
    I like how you included those as though they weren't just... things you do on those champions. Felt very tongue-in-cheek. xD

  • @frostbite996
    @frostbite996 Місяць тому

    PANTH SCALES REALLY WELL AS 1 W ONE SHOTS YOU

  • @nathanwaterser8218
    @nathanwaterser8218 Місяць тому

    One thing that should be mentioned is that she can get shutdown pretty easily in the earlygame
    Steelcaps (ninja tabi) is an easy way to shut her down since her damage is mostly AD and from her empowered autoattacks. Meanwhile she can't really do the same to you because she needs AD to work.
    This is the main reason her pickrate has gone down compared to Fiora or Camille. Those 2 don't care since they deal true damage.

  • @gallanomarkandrea.1787
    @gallanomarkandrea.1787 Місяць тому +1

    Well there's one thing that Riven is pretty different compared to other bruisers I think. Lack of built in sustain, Riven can only use either of this 2 sustain items rav hydra and sundered sky. Bork is off limits bcuz its more of an on hit attack speed base champs.

    • @panlis6243
      @panlis6243 Місяць тому +1

      She doesn't have a built-in sustain but she benefits a lot from outside sustain sources (like runes and items) because late game her E becomes pretty spammable and it gives her a shield that also scales with her damage (AD)

  • @Archinemi
    @Archinemi Місяць тому

    "Yasuo has to move around..." lmao.

  • @trik6979
    @trik6979 Місяць тому +1

    Whenever i think about going back to play league i think "do i wanna go back to dealing with riven players?" and i dont even open the game.
    league free for 11 months now, praise the gods.

  • @herodestiny6247
    @herodestiny6247 Місяць тому

    Vars, can you make why everyone plays Nautilus, he is presents both in SoloQ and proplay, easy to pick up, always appears regardless of meta and strong champion, high tempo with q the wall and very strong engage with 2 point and click CC, 1 hook cc with big hitbox ?

  • @vatsalyasoni8324
    @vatsalyasoni8324 Місяць тому

    He had to upload this alongwith alois' riven vod

  • @TheAndroidNextDoor
    @TheAndroidNextDoor Місяць тому +2

    Gonna be honest, i can count on one hand the number of Riven players I've seen over the last year+. And I'm one of them. She might be the lowest playrate of the 4 horsewomen champions.

  • @KlausCiocannis
    @KlausCiocannis Місяць тому +1

    I wish I had time to learn Riven for good. I tried to learn her 2 times and second time I got decent enough to 1v9 games in low Diamond, but this happened 5-6 years ago. If I were to return to LoL, I'd return only for Riven.
    Does anyone has some tips for picking up this champion?

  • @sylok6978
    @sylok6978 Місяць тому

    reposting rumble e is quite good imo, you dont get the magic pen of it right?

  • @violelorenzini
    @violelorenzini Місяць тому

    funny how riven never gets a notable nerf but kayn gets nerfed per patch so that hess "balanceed"

  • @harambe3363
    @harambe3363 Місяць тому

    im secretly good asf t riven, shes so fun bec feels like im in an arcade fighting game

  • @krzysztofkiebasa9172
    @krzysztofkiebasa9172 Місяць тому

    Pantheon doesn't fall off late

  • @lissandrafreljord7913
    @lissandrafreljord7913 Місяць тому

    I'd argue Gwen is also one of those 4 horsewoman of top lane. She is basically AP Fiora.

  • @mayonaise000
    @mayonaise000 Місяць тому

    I mean, I feel like it's much simpler why people play riven. Sure she gets results and does massive AoE damage late game, but the fun part is pressing all of the buttons that quickly and doing true combos that nobody can interact with. The joy of 100%-0%'ing someone after using all of your abilities perfectly is pure bliss. ...and she makes for sick montages.

  • @VLevi2611
    @VLevi2611 Місяць тому

    good stuff as always vars! can't wait for the final irelia video to conclude the horsewomen of towplane

  • @JustaSmilingHedgehog
    @JustaSmilingHedgehog Місяць тому

    Rivens animation cancelling bug abused being branded as a mechanic will forever be an insult.

  • @shaylelarue787
    @shaylelarue787 Місяць тому +1

    What are you talking about no one played Riven for years

  • @notlisztening9821
    @notlisztening9821 Місяць тому

    Because not only does she have the hallmark of a broken kit: Mobility and hard-cc, but she has both on a single spell.
    And so like yone, her kit is busted.

  • @minidays960
    @minidays960 Місяць тому

    Vars loved yone for a video we did it

  • @KingTerrick
    @KingTerrick Місяць тому +1

    Can we get another teemo video or a video on who you think is the face of the game these days

    • @ibrahim5463
      @ibrahim5463 Місяць тому +1

      Jinx lux ahri or ez,the fourhoursmen of riot cash grab

  • @llamawearingsombrero6764
    @llamawearingsombrero6764 Місяць тому

    What is your view on Camille she went from top laner being recognized as the 4 horse woman but now she reduce to a support will this stick and signify her end of being a top laner

  • @charleslj8217
    @charleslj8217 Місяць тому

    which champ gets picked the most based on their physical appearance? That'd be kinda interesting to see

  • @jideotoh2744
    @jideotoh2744 Місяць тому

    I love you Vars

  • @gastoncastellano3361
    @gastoncastellano3361 Місяць тому

    As a Shen otp... it hurts me how the Shen in te background miss the taunt under turret and how he engage an amumu next to a Riven...

  • @davidreeding9176
    @davidreeding9176 Місяць тому +1

    Hi elo players play her because she is versatile and scales well
    Lo elo players play her because shes fun

  • @Andy-xd5dj
    @Andy-xd5dj Місяць тому

    Havent faced this champ in like a year and something

    • @Narekz
      @Narekz Місяць тому

      me too, but i see her when i watch high elo players, so skill issue i guess

  • @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes.
    @Rells2coolpeoplehavebadtastes. Місяць тому

    Thanks.

  • @max-potato-muncher
    @max-potato-muncher Місяць тому +1

    I have the utmost respect for skilled Riven players. The freedom and strength she holds only comes out when piloted by an at least moderately proficient/knowledge player, so I know when I get beaten by one, I'm the worse player 9 times out of 10.
    It still won't stop me from complaining about her though, since the salt has been ingrained too deeply into me.

  • @MrReaperHand
    @MrReaperHand Місяць тому

    Reason? Some BADASS skins.....

  • @Leaq
    @Leaq Місяць тому +1

    Maybe its time for what happened to camille when she has more supp games than top

  • @justinace2589
    @justinace2589 Місяць тому

    My take on riven after 2+ years of only playing her:
    ~She's fun.
    ~She lacks sustain in her Kit in comparison to every other toplaner (renek q Irelia q darius q garen passive trynda q fiora vitals camille w Aatrox e passive Gragas passive Ksante ult passive etc.)
    ~ She lacks mixed or true dmg (Irelia passive / yone / fio / darius renek armor shred etc.)
    ~ She is very team reliant in order to carry comparable to Irelia / Kata / Yi for teamfights (gets locked down if she has to be the one to engage first)
    ~ tenacity is your friend
    ~ You are probably better of Maining K'Sante or Aatrox because they do the same thing just with a better base kit.
    Suggestions for changes /
    -Passive 25% attackdmg bonus reduced to smth like 10 but as true dmg (so you dont start losing lane as 6/0 because your oponent bought tabis frozen heart)
    OR:
    -Give some sort of armor shred on her basekit after hitting multiple spells on one target e.g. q+ q + w = 5/15/20% (scaling on level) Armor shred for you. [This could also be combined with her ult, possibly giving better armor shred but would be a bit over the top]

  • @supercell3129
    @supercell3129 Місяць тому +88

    Shes more of why no one plays from her pick rate history but ok 😭

    • @Sushilordd
      @Sushilordd Місяць тому +5

      yeah but all players are one tricks.
      so its not that nobody plays her but a lot of one tricks play her ig

    • @supercell3129
      @supercell3129 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Sushilordd yea prob 99% riven pick rate just comes from her otps cuz even if I face one it will be otp

  • @naivet
    @naivet Місяць тому

    I've seen 2 Rivens this whole season, 1 of them was just trolling (intentionally because she tilted). I don't think any not otp plays her, but the champ is fun tho.

  • @relaxoirl5920
    @relaxoirl5920 5 днів тому

    I mostly agree but for the love of god put the aa in the combo! passive is main damage not q thats why fast combo is one of the few you HAVE to learn.
    Yes ult has more burst but thats your ult not b&b.

  • @alexithymia6288
    @alexithymia6288 Місяць тому

    Camille has transitioned to a horsewoman of the bot lane. I suspect the same could be done with Irelia and Riven if people really wanted to, though Camille's mobility is a cut above those two.

  • @panlis6243
    @panlis6243 День тому

    Only one left

  • @suwaynebrown494
    @suwaynebrown494 Місяць тому

    Hope one day Gwen joins the 4 horse women, maybe if riot gives her a ad ratio

  • @magical571
    @magical571 Місяць тому

    She is fun, end of story haha. no mana, and a lot of button presses and attack cancels, dopamine goes brrrrr (don't get me wrong, i like her). Oh, plus her dawnbringer skin.

  • @Kilesfactor
    @Kilesfactor Місяць тому +1

    God, Riven looks so broken when I watch her and then I play her and go 0/18 lol
    That's probably why I don't really see or go Riven, I just die on her. I will admit, she do be John Wick with a sword tho

  • @nojaodoggo2896
    @nojaodoggo2896 Місяць тому

    Can Gwen be one of the apocalypse bringers?

  • @out1007
    @out1007 16 днів тому

    riven is not fool-proof, but she's so unrestricted it makes her fool-proof

  • @KitsuneRogue
    @KitsuneRogue Місяць тому +2

    I play Riven becaue her OG voice actress is Christina Vee...

  • @WanderingHeroZayra
    @WanderingHeroZayra Місяць тому +5

    This video is amazing but unfortunately it doesn't really hold up to the Riven current state in the game:
    Don't get me wrong she's still played, but she's at one of her lowest peak of playrate due to how much the game's bullshit is taking over top lane.
    Every other skirmisher basically destroys you with a couple of exceptions (such as Gwen), and tanks are insanely hard to kill after just tabis.
    BC is extremely underwhelming and we lost Serylda as bruisers too, you really have to commit on the lethality in order to actually deal some damage with that, without even mentioning Rav Hydra really lost the power it used to have on Riven.
    Added to the overall sugarcoating of the early game (low respawn timers, early homeguards when you die, item components less strong, higher hp and survivability on everyone) really hindered Riven's snowball potential.
    Toghether with tabi changes (that now blocks every damage that gets trough autos, not just auto damage), everlasting bugs (Q doing whatever it wants, the only good sustain item is bugged and doesn't crit), and overall kit oldness (one example: why does Aatrox gets his ult extended on kill and Riven doesn't?) really made her feel like not worth sometimes.
    Moreover, nowdays there's a huge amount of unstoppable autos around (Jax's W after rework being the last), that your W really doesn't stop much besides normal autos nowdays (and the poor Sion which is one of the few tanks that Riven really stomps early).
    She's still insanely fun... but I wish we'd had some "2024 power" like 80% of the rooster.

    • @zerlichr426
      @zerlichr426 Місяць тому +1

      She gets ult reset in wild Rift