I have long wondered about this. I have never been a back to stock guy. That is what museums are for. Thank you for making this video. It sounds like swapping an 80s 5.0 and a turbo for about $1,500 isn’t a bad way to go either.
If it's an original 390 car. Personally, Id prob restore it. If not. Maybe consider going to a turbo 351 set up. Less hassle and way more horsepower per $ then the yote swap. Especially if you're already considering going to a coil over front suspension set up. Which I'd have to believe you are. If you're considering the coyote. I had the same argument w myself on my current build. (69 cougar xr7) And ultimately for what I wanted to achieve. The windsor/turbo, is a better fit for my goals. On this particular project anyway. Best of luck w the build, whatever you decide.
He is trying to sell products, on my channel we used a wrecked donor car and converted all the interior and wiring over for that classic custom and it cost only what you can get a donor car for plus a mustang II front suspension
@@cjponyparts well the 65 was totaled by my uncle 30 years ago and spent nearly 20 years in a cow pasture before being put under a barn. Only about 10 years ago did my dad bring it home and decided to buy the totaled gt for the drivetrain, why🤷🏽♂️?idk other than it was $820. But what engine would you suggest to put into the 65?
@@cjponyparts also he’s not really building it as a race car i think he just wants his first car to drive again and to have more of a pretty car that you could cut up in a little bit
@@MustyChalupa that 98 gt engine would be perfectly fine....at 225 hp and 290 lb ft of torque, it has as much or more power than any other factory 65 mustang would minus a K code car, and the fact it's a 281 cu in would be a good replacement for the 289
I just really want to know the labor cost for Coyote to '64 - '70 plus kit cost$. ? VS 80's to '93 same. assuming you have a complete engine and maybe trans with cpu and harness. How and which years are the easiest to coyote swap? Assuming you want a manual transmission, possible swap.
Coyote is the rage now but in 25 years from now I'm afraid I might regret chopping up a classic when the future may hold much better less invasive options. I'm glad I did not have the means to modify my Mustang how I wanted to when I was in my early 20's. I'd probably have a sagging full fiberglass shell on a tube chassis and have lost the charm of driving an actual 66 Mustang.
What would be the best way to do a coyote swap in stages? Like keeping the original engine and transmission until all other necessary changes such as suspension and even restoration/modification of the body and interior are complete? Would that be possible?
just wondering if you get a swap done. do you still have to get a smog check now since its a newer engine and not the original engines? curious on how that works
Don’t do it man! Keep the push rod engine! But then again.... Coyote swap would so fun once completed! But idk man... don’t do it... Shoot... nevermind.... do it bro!
I’m in same boat except I don’t have an engine for my 65 fastback project. I already have a t5 transmission I can either buy an f150 my buddy has that runs and drives for $500 and use the 5.0 from it or my other buddy has a totaled 2013 gt for $4500. If I go the f150 it will my car on the rode a lot faster
But the old 5.0 make no power. You have to build them and spend thousands of dollars to do so. If you have the money much rather just buy a new coyote with an updated engine and stronger transmission that doesn’t have to be built to go fast
Stroked windsors. 408 Windsors are a dime a dozen. Parts all over ebay. Don't have to turn ,7500rpm either. The Coyote is awesome, but dimensionally challengingly to be practical. Let's not forget the fact that ur lookin at 7500+ rpm!! I bought a new set of Windsor aluminum heads still in the shipping box for $400!!. Right place @ right time. Cost thousands too modify a vintage mustang for a coyote. Cool, but poo boys need to spend the money where it counts!!
Just wondering if a 4.6L V3 swap might provide enough performance boost for many viewers. I have a 2009 Bullitt Edition and am happy with the 4.6L's performance. The 4.6L should be more affordable. BTW ... Great video Bill.
Hey Bill so I have a 66 mustang coupe with a 200ci and 3 speed manual transmission I found a dinner 1984 fox body with a 5.0L and T5 transmission besides the 8.8- 9 inch rear and and suspension upgrades what else would I need to make this swap possible And do the shock towers need to be eliminated for this 84 fox body 5.0 swap?
Meh, can't beat the sound of an old school V8. It may be the Boomer in me but the Coyote engine exhaust noise sounds weird in a classic Mustang. I'm in the final stages of a restomod 65 Mustang and opted for old school small block with a stroker kit, headers and a holley 4 bbl carb. Mild performance but high quality build (cost was just under $10k) with just a bit of "lope" in the cam at idle and that old school throaty V8 sound that just makes everyone smile. I don't need to be the fastest, my goal is to be the coolest "kid" on the block.
I get what you mean, old school carburated engines sound way better. But if you add aftermarket cam shafts to a coyote is sounds way better than without. But then again, the price is another few thousand ua-cam.com/video/DLVy6iNtu68/v-deo.html
@@CJColvin 331 Stroker and stock heads with a roller cam. Aluminum heads are nice but not necessary for my build goals. (350hp and around 400ftlbs torque)
@@CJColvin The engine has been ready for a few months. Just finishing up the interior. My heads were rebuilt by Valley Head service in Northridge, CA. The same folks who did most of the original racing Shelby heads. I was advised that porting and polishing was not worth it for my build goals.
Me personally I want the coupe version then the Fastback version only due to the reason that the Fastback version is what people want more. then after that I would just rather due the full stock mustang Engine+Transmission and then I would like to have it the blue color that you have it in this video... Would love for y'all to make a build series so that it can help everyone out on how to do certain things without explaining it. Not everyone is going to understand when you explain then compared to actually showing on how to do it. Hopefully this all makes sense.
You guys work on cars ? I got 1967 mustang 200 engine block I’m from LA . Looking for a good shop to upgrade my engine. I don’t mine driving to you guys .
Great video! I am about to do this job for my 69 fastback. Any recommendation when it comes to the engine? gen1 or 2? - I am getting a donor car. I just want to make my life easier by picking the right one. (don't care about the power that much)
that is what I am thinking. Drop an 04 mustang engine into my 66 instead. Cheaper engines for sure. Whole swap for under the cost of the coyote engine alone!
It's all summed up with the statement, "...I can't begin to tell you what this is going to cost.,..." Can you imagine troubleshooting this engine (A.K.A. electrician's nightmare) if it gets a hiccup?
You're incorrect about having to modify the tunnel for the larger transmission. With the Mustangs To Fear IFS no modification are necessary, even with the 10R80.
Don't do this keep you ohv engine like a 289 or 380 better engines and keeps the value of the car.It makes it harder to revert back or restore it .Don't do this or expect a decrease in price ..
@@sategllib2191 It doesn't matter most collectors don't want a computerized car and it will increase the value even if it not the numbers matching as to MCA rules .I would prefer an LS1 as it is pushrod V8 mostly a fuel ingested 350 can't beat it A coyote is really a bad engine deign for the hoppyist .You try and work on one with no computer .
@@AgeCobra Who cares? Not everyone is looking to sell their cars. Some people want to drive them, and enjoy a modern drive train with modern performance. LS engines are versatile, but a lot of people don't want a chevy engine in a ford for obvious reasons. I'm half tempted to toss in a Nissan VQ engine in my 67 just to piss people off.
Times have changed and the car culture is dictated by the enthusiasts that participate. There seems to be more that would pay for a restomod than there are seeking original examples of cars. What’s “in” changes with the generation and the high values go to the desired cars they idolize.
I restomod my 67 mustang and the engine fell on my hand and crush my legs when I was under the car. Now I need someone to coyote swap my wheel chair motor.
The hardest part is not the swap but finding a competent shop that knows how to do everything correctly
you want something done right you do it yourself.
I have long wondered about this. I have never been a back to stock guy. That is what museums are for. Thank you for making this video. It sounds like swapping an 80s 5.0 and a turbo for about $1,500 isn’t a bad way to go either.
That doesn't sound like a bad way to go at all! $1,500 sounds a heck of a lot cheaper than this $20,000 and more nightmare of modification.
This is seriously the best video I’ve ever watched to swap a coyote engine. No nonsense just to the point
Great video again like always.
Thanks as always!
instablaster.
Great vid. Really good overview of what’s required. I’m into it. Just need a 60s mustang and a house w/ garage LOL
Lmao facts
Daunting prospect. I have to read the owner's handbook before attempting to change a light bulb.
You guys kill it when it comes to mustangs.
I keep going back and forth, rebuild the 390 on my 67 fastback or coyote swap.
That’s a tough one.
If it's an original 390 car. Personally, Id prob restore it. If not. Maybe consider going to a turbo 351 set up. Less hassle and way more horsepower per $ then the yote swap. Especially if you're already considering going to a coil over front suspension set up. Which I'd have to believe you are. If you're considering the coyote. I had the same argument w myself on my current build. (69 cougar xr7) And ultimately for what I wanted to achieve. The windsor/turbo, is a better fit for my goals. On this particular project anyway. Best of luck w the build, whatever you decide.
Id like to find a list of things for swapping a 2011 crown vic coyote swap
All i kept hearing was, you’ll need to spend more $ here, more $ here, more $ here. Screw that! Ill keep the factory 390 in my 67 Cougar GT.
lol thats what I'm thinking about my 69. The 351w rebuilt should do the trick 😅
Yep!
LoL them old heads be straight forward it’s clean tho my guy
He is trying to sell products, on my channel we used a wrecked donor car and converted all the interior and wiring over for that classic custom and it cost only what you can get a donor car for plus a mustang II front suspension
Ain't nothing wrong with that brother but it dang sure ain't a coyote
I actually have been wondering about something like this my dad has been wanting to swap the drivetrain from a 98 gt to a 65 coupe
The mechanics of the swap are pretty similar to a coyote. I would consider the cost involved since the 98 GT engine stock only makes around 225 hp
@@cjponyparts well the 65 was totaled by my uncle 30 years ago and spent nearly 20 years in a cow pasture before being put under a barn. Only about 10 years ago did my dad bring it home and decided to buy the totaled gt for the drivetrain, why🤷🏽♂️?idk other than it was $820. But what engine would you suggest to put into the 65?
@@cjponyparts also he’s not really building it as a race car i think he just wants his first car to drive again and to have more of a pretty car that you could cut up in a little bit
@@MustyChalupa that 98 gt engine would be perfectly fine....at 225 hp and 290 lb ft of torque, it has as much or more power than any other factory 65 mustang would minus a K code car, and the fact it's a 281 cu in would be a good replacement for the 289
Thanks for the vid, what about the differential
I just really want to know the labor cost for Coyote to '64 - '70 plus kit cost$. ? VS 80's to '93 same. assuming you have a complete engine and maybe trans with cpu and harness. How and which years are the easiest to coyote swap? Assuming you want a manual transmission, possible swap.
Coyote is the rage now but in 25 years from now I'm afraid I might regret chopping up a classic when the future may hold much better less invasive options. I'm glad I did not have the means to modify my Mustang how I wanted to when I was in my early 20's. I'd probably have a sagging full fiberglass shell on a tube chassis and have lost the charm of driving an actual 66 Mustang.
Styles do obviously change but this car was almost 90% replacement sheetmetal so any "original" value left the building a long time ago!
@@cjponyparts sounds good
What would be the best way to do a coyote swap in stages? Like keeping the original engine and transmission until all other necessary changes such as suspension and even restoration/modification of the body and interior are complete? Would that be possible?
My dream is to swap my 1989 GT one day! Takes about 20 grand from what I have researched.
just wondering if you get a swap done. do you still have to get a smog check now since its a newer engine and not the original engines? curious on how that works
I want a jet engine on my Fairlane so i can leave this planet.
I got a 4.6 explorer, The black car guru said that the 4.6 mounts fit on a 5.0
It does
What front bumper is that?? I really like it
What headers? I put the Doug’s king tubes in mine and they sit a few inches off the ground
Dammit bill, I’m all like naw I’m gonna keep my pushrod engine now I’m all fired up for a coyote again
Don’t do it man! Keep the push rod engine! But then again.... Coyote swap would so fun once completed! But idk man... don’t do it... Shoot... nevermind.... do it bro!
I’m in same boat except I don’t have an engine for my 65 fastback project. I already have a t5 transmission I can either buy an f150 my buddy has that runs and drives for $500 and use the 5.0 from it or my other buddy has a totaled 2013 gt for $4500. If I go the f150 it will my car on the rode a lot faster
Cant beat a the 89-93 5.0 swap in classic mustang its so much more cheaper and easier to swap
But the old 5.0 make no power. You have to build them and spend thousands of dollars to do so. If you have the money much rather just buy a new coyote with an updated engine and stronger transmission that doesn’t have to be built to go fast
@@alexchristian5399 yeet some eBay turbos on the bitch then
@@alexchristian5399 Old Mustangs weigh alot less than the new too so 460 hp will make it really fly.
@@DAN007thefoxx1 a whole 1000lbs lighter but tbh id rather put 500lbs of steel to reinforce the subframes
Stroked windsors. 408 Windsors are a dime a dozen. Parts all over ebay. Don't have to turn ,7500rpm either. The Coyote is awesome, but dimensionally challengingly to be practical. Let's not forget the fact that ur lookin at 7500+ rpm!! I bought a new set of Windsor aluminum heads still in the shipping box for $400!!. Right place @ right time. Cost thousands too modify a vintage mustang for a coyote. Cool, but poo boys need to spend the money where it counts!!
Hi, do you know what front valance/clip that is on your 65? That's thing is sick
Just wondering if a 4.6L V3 swap might provide enough performance boost for many viewers. I have a 2009 Bullitt Edition and am happy with the 4.6L's performance. The 4.6L should be more affordable.
BTW ... Great video Bill.
Same effort and parts to fit it, may as well chip in the little extra and get a coyote.
I wish the new 7.3 Godzilla was more available that seems like it would be a better alternative for older mustangs
Good day how does one buy already done coyote swap classic?
Hey Bill so I have a 66 mustang coupe with a 200ci and 3 speed manual transmission I found a dinner 1984 fox body with a 5.0L and T5 transmission besides the 8.8- 9 inch rear and and suspension upgrades what else would I need to make this swap possible And do the shock towers need to be eliminated for this 84 fox body 5.0 swap?
I’m interested as well
You do not need to shave shock towers are far along are you with the swap I swapped mine out for 89 engine and t5
Hello wondering what’s the radiator you used for this car
Meh, can't beat the sound of an old school V8. It may be the Boomer in me but the Coyote engine exhaust noise sounds weird in a classic Mustang. I'm in the final stages of a restomod 65 Mustang and opted for old school small block with a stroker kit, headers and a holley 4 bbl carb. Mild performance but high quality build (cost was just under $10k) with just a bit of "lope" in the cam at idle and that old school throaty V8 sound that just makes everyone smile. I don't need to be the fastest, my goal is to be the coolest "kid" on the block.
I get what you mean, old school carburated engines sound way better. But if you add aftermarket cam shafts to a coyote is sounds way better than without. But then again, the price is another few thousand
ua-cam.com/video/DLVy6iNtu68/v-deo.html
Awesome brother. What stroker is it and what kind of Aluminium heads are you putting on you're small block.
@@CJColvin 331 Stroker and stock heads with a roller cam. Aluminum heads are nice but not necessary for my build goals. (350hp and around 400ftlbs torque)
@@MikeTurner-Home-Appraiser Are you planning on porting and polishing em or are they stock cast.
@@CJColvin The engine has been ready for a few months. Just finishing up the interior. My heads were rebuilt by Valley Head service in Northridge, CA. The same folks who did most of the original racing Shelby heads. I was advised that porting and polishing was not worth it for my build goals.
Hey what abt a gt500 predator engine
And 1968 mustang with a manual transmission
Cant even get on their website on my phone. Stupid security check screws it up.
Curious... who makes that front valance? Id be interested in one for my restomod '65.
We custom made it with the lower valance from a 2012 Boss 302 and the stock Mustang valance.
Me personally I want the coupe version then the Fastback version only due to the reason that the Fastback version is what people want more. then after that I would just rather due the full stock mustang Engine+Transmission and then I would like to have it the blue color that you have it in this video... Would love for y'all to make a build series so that it can help everyone out on how to do certain things without explaining it. Not everyone is going to understand when you explain then compared to actually showing on how to do it. Hopefully this all makes sense.
You guys work on cars ? I got 1967 mustang 200 engine block I’m from LA . Looking for a good shop to upgrade my engine. I don’t mine driving to you guys .
Sorry, no we do not. Just for videos.
You'll also need to upgrade from 4 lug wheel components to 5 lug to handle the added weight and power.
Top video. Thanks from Uk 🇬🇧 ❤❤
Whats the name and location of the shop that did the car in this video?
I’m thinking about swapping a coyote 5.0 into a Lexus gs
5.2L Flat Plane with the 10R80 would be AWESOME
This. Orefer a dct7 tho
Why ruin a 5.2 flat plane with a auto 😔
@@sategllib2191 Transmission makes no difference to some people. It's not ruined, it's just different.
@@MuShinnen Exactly
@@sategllib2191 Who says it needs to always need a Manual? Not everyone prefers them and perceives them as a better experience
What would be the best shop in western Canada to do this?
I wish there was someone set up in the UK I could pay to do this
There probably is, if you look around
I’m keeping my eye on the new 7.3 Godzilla engine....want something that fits without any major surgery.
Lol
We’ll see them soon
I feel like that'll still need major surgery, it is a big block
Great video! I am about to do this job for my 69 fastback.
Any recommendation when it comes to the engine?
gen1 or 2? - I am getting a donor car.
I just want to make my life easier by picking the right one. (don't care about the power that much)
Go with gen two I’ve personally seen less issues with the two than the one
I’ve only seen videos… but apparently the later the better.
Will a donor engine work with the control pack?
what's that exact blue color im thinking about doing my 65 mustang in that color
Deep Impact Blue from the 2015 Mustang.
What rear end would you recommend for a coyote swap? Just trying to make sure I purchase the right parts!
The question is can I swap the late gen rear suspension to the classic car with little or less effort and cost than new parts?
Ford 9 inch
Should I supercharge a 67 stang or turbocharge it ?
Supercharged is more classic American muscle
@@trentmclellan1037 thanks man!
@@rewindgaming9553 yw bro lord Jesus Christ loves you btw!❤️
@@trentmclellan1037 thanks brother
71 cougar where can i go to g get the swap done?
What should I do for a fuel tank and lines
Use all the wiring and electric steering on the one built on my channel
can you make a video for a 04 MUSTANG swap, tips, guide etc please!
that is what I am thinking. Drop an 04 mustang engine into my 66 instead. Cheaper engines for sure. Whole swap for under the cost of the coyote engine alone!
@@4WDTrek idiot he means to swap his 04. But I see where you come from. I want to do the same
Been looking for a gen 3 coyote for my 67.
Would this type of swap be compatible with a 71 mach 1 by chance?
Yes people have coyote swapped 71-73 cars as well.
@@cjponyparts what about a 69 mustang?
Could you use a vortech v3 on a coyote off a 2002 2v
No
It's all summed up with the statement, "...I can't begin to tell you what this is going to cost.,..." Can you imagine troubleshooting this engine (A.K.A. electrician's nightmare) if it gets a hiccup?
...once again, Ford and their infinite greedy wisdom. $2,500 swap harness?! fk all that.
Man, wish I was rich enough to afford even just a roller to restore, let alone a coyote swap!
Why not a turbo V-six.
Man a 347 stroker will do just fine
Heck yeah i was like #289
I would love to swap this engine into my 96 F150 but man its so expensive.
Worth every dime
That series engines is an engineers wet dream and a owners and mechanics nightmare,
You're incorrect about having to modify the tunnel for the larger transmission. With the Mustangs To Fear IFS no modification are necessary, even with the 10R80.
This is awesome
The biggest problem is cylinder walls made of Aluminum !!
Can't wait to see how that ends !
How cheap is it when you can't afford cylinder liners ??
I keep running into the same kind of issues, Too Much Money!
What gen coyote has aluminum cylinder walls
$10,00??? oooh not even close
Anyone have a rough price?
What is the exact name of this engine?
You can look up the generation. The name is literally in the video
Just give me a list for a 1968 straight 6 so I can start buying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
he says you can trim the shock towers,...LOL
Around a $20k swap. Not for light pockets.
Dam, now that is alot of money.
I'd never do this...the 331 stroker is the best Mustang motor, esp for old school, drop it straight in
Nobody cares your opinion. Don't won't swap? Go away.
Take my money 💰
7.3 swap
so recently got my 2000 mustang on Hagerty insurance THEY ACTUALLY consider it to be classic now. lmao
Way more work and$$$$$$$$$ that you think
yea... ill just buy a 427 crate engine and swap that in instead
Oh goodness this makes it seem like a 2JZ swap would actually be easier to do. If you dont care about sacrificing a V8 for a straight 6 turbo.
1:09 is it just me cringing when he is sitting on the car
I’ll just ls swap it
You might as well buy a newer mustang and swap the body, yes there will be a lot of cutting and molding
Junkyard vortec go brrr
$10k for bare bones!?? Maybe for a new engine...
Used parts will make it MUCH more affordable.
Sorry bill but I went with the Ls swap 👀
Coming soon.....
After a swap like this, the biggest supporting mod is mess proof pants and underwear.
Coyote coyote coyote !!!!!!!!
Nope! 289 is good for me
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Don't bother asking any questions, they never answer any of them.
Sacrilege in my opinion but that’s just my opinion
Oof… uhhhh
Man, that blue 65-66 is ugly..
Don't do this keep you ohv engine like a 289 or 380 better engines and keeps the value of the car.It makes it harder to revert back or restore it .Don't do this or expect a decrease in price ..
Idk this better engine design might increase value unless it's a all numbers matching all original car
@@sategllib2191 It doesn't matter most collectors don't want a computerized car and it will increase the value even if it not the numbers matching as to MCA rules .I would prefer an LS1 as it is pushrod V8 mostly a fuel ingested 350 can't beat it A coyote is really a bad engine deign for the hoppyist .You try and work on one with no computer .
@@AgeCobra Who cares? Not everyone is looking to sell their cars. Some people want to drive them, and enjoy a modern drive train with modern performance. LS engines are versatile, but a lot of people don't want a chevy engine in a ford for obvious reasons. I'm half tempted to toss in a Nissan VQ engine in my 67 just to piss people off.
Times have changed and the car culture is dictated by the enthusiasts that participate. There seems to be more that would pay for a restomod than there are seeking original examples of cars. What’s “in” changes with the generation and the high values go to the desired cars they idolize.
I restomod my 67 mustang and the engine fell on my hand and crush my legs when I was under the car. Now I need someone to coyote swap my wheel chair motor.