Rameses III Describes Invasion Of Sea Peoples // Mystery of Bronze Age Collapse // Primary Source
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2020
- Between 1200 and 1150 BC there was a total collapse of many of the world's most powerful empires. Many causes have been theorised for The Late Bronze Age Collapse - a major one being the appearance of a mysterious peoples from the blue, a terror from the seas that wiped out civilization after civilization. Ancient Egypt was one of the few kingdoms able to hold off this mystery alliance, and here we have the Pharaoh Rameses III describing his struggle against the impending doom and fire of those legendary "Sea Peoples".
Translation by James Henry Breasted.
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According to ancient Egyptian records they never lost a battle, they just kept "winning" closer and closer to home.
Lol
morons lol
OK, but Nefertiti and Akhenaten and most of the Dynasts show the Mittani "foreign ruler" elongated skull of the Amorites, so the ruling Egyptians were already Amorite foreign rulers and had been for quite some time. Game on, ruling-wise, against the conformist class, which is why we got evicted. Meritaten's long head is the progenitor of the Gaels tho' ;)
The ancient equivalent to the Deutsche Wochenschau
@@DrCorvid Akhenaten didn't do much 'ruling', of the empire. He was too busy starting a religious cult out in the middle of nowhere. Some people thing that he deviated from the standardized art forms of the past to help solidify his status of being divine, which was strange because the Pharoahs were already considered god kings.
>Tried to save your country
>Economy worsened, first recorded labour strike
>Got assassinated in a harem conspiracy
This dude is unlucky as hell.
Caught a case of ''visitors'' from the levant.... a certain tribe....
@@insiainutorrt259 That was several hundred years earlier.
@@insiainutorrt259 the burden of almost all great civilizations.
@@sokar_rostau
Just enough time for the scheeemees to take full effect....
Anyone from the labor force would gladly change lives
Pharoah: Here's my plan to keep you alive -
1. God is on my side
2. I am a total badass
3. I mean it, I am a total badass and everyone knows it
Very much in the style of other Pharaoh commissioned battle monuments. Also, you have to write a conclusion to the events about how much these people now fear, respect, and acknowledge your badassness.
@@oril22 Good points, thanks. Yeah. I'm Pharaoh. I have scribes and speechwriters to punch it up. I'm a river unto my people so of course I enjoy blessing them by talking to them but it's enough that I talked to them. Because my father was a badass too. Perhaps you've heard of him - complete badass - just ask the slaves. It's because my father guides my soul through the underworld at night that I am before you, Pharaoh, total badass.
Ni999 *Trump instead of pharaoh and it’s the same story
@@TheLuismaBeaTle I heard some people say that, I don't know. Everyone else says that I'm the best Pharoah ever. Seriously. They said I couldn't build a pyramid and now look - great pyramid. I heard it's the best pyramid and you know something? It's true. I have great triangles. Pointy.
Sounds like Trump. Human nature is a historical constant.
Rameses III Describes Ego of Rameses III // Primary Source
Rameses is number 1, Rameses is the best.
@@HVLLOWS1999 nacho libre reference?
*NACHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooohhh.....*
Directed by Rameses III
Woman: *Thinking* I bet he's thinking about other girls!
Man: *Thinking* Who the hell were the Sea Peoples??
Amen
@@autumnmoon5014 Always bringing that! Are you not exhausted? Which word of the joke do you find offensive. It's more about trust issues and It could perfectly work the other way around.
I had to listen twice. It's that good.
Sea Peoples were probably just Greek mercs gone mad.
*Sentient Space Bats*
I hope somebody talks about me the way Rameses III talks about Rameses III
lol
"Forever and ever!" Just have it engraved into stone and it'll be there.
Ryan Borganson 😂
Lmao
I want him to narrate my walking up, using the bathroom, and having breakfast.
Ah, that one time that a random group of people showed up seemly out of nowhere and almost completely derailed civilization. History is weird sometimes.
Seems like a recurring theme throughout a lot of history.
m.ua-cam.com/video/6Fk1CE7r6eU/v-deo.html
Maybe that's only a theory
They are also credited for being the Titans that brought agriculture and civilization to areas they settled, the Altai and Tarim basins, North America and so on. They are our Titans that we have been killing off.
Chris Jones oh dear.
Rameses: _Did I mention that I'm pretty great?_
Interesting the invasion of the sea people roughly coincides with the destruction of Troy and Mycenae.
The Mycenaean civilisation was also brought to it's knees partly because pf those sea people during the bronze age collapse.
@There will be Changes Ima look into that; seems about right. The Trojans were defenders and Disciples of Horus, so NOT allied with Marduk-Ra's new state religion that was being imposed, or his assault team. There was no Trojan horse; this is one of the times the gates were blasted open as a favour of the gods with technology. The prick brags about his direct assault on the giants' kingdoms in his own bible..
@There will be Changes That is suggested, but unlikely: Greece at this time was completely plugged in and thrived with the other civilizations at this time: Why would they become a group of rampant raiders? It's more likely they came from the Western Mediterranean.
There will be Changes They were long curly snake sidelock Hyksos. Later, they returned with chariots which the Egyptians had never seen before. The Hyksos were never slaves in Egypt nor anywhere. They enslaved.
@@th0ck Okay, I think you've been playing way too much Assassin's Creed Odyssey, based on this comment. The Mycenaean Greeks were not known to ever employ mercenaries, and the only Bronze Age civilization known to employ mercenaries was Egypt. Mercenaries really only became more of a common thing across multiple states during the Iron Age Classical Era.
The Sea Peoples are probably the single greatest mystery in the Bronze Age Collapse, because apart from some scant written sources about them, particularly from the topic of this video (and is clearly very romaticised and propagandist), there really isn't any additional information about them at all. If we could somehow link them and get a timeline when trade and/or agriculture began to diminish, then we'd have a much, much better lead on them.
90% of this is Rameses III promoting himself.
What can be expected of someone who thinks he’s a god (and is treated as such by everyone around him?)
He had to promote himself if he did not people may have questioned his divinity.
Once that started happening he would not live long eventually they did and he didn't
Politics. Politics never changes.
@@jamesricker3997 Nobody will questioned his divinity if he take care of his people.
@Kyle Butler I had never heard of the Sea Peoples and their name caught my attention. I have listened to these words of Ramses III twice and concluded that every country faced with the pandemic needs a Ramses III to lead them. I realize it’s self promotion but it’s eloquent and inspiring. I can imagine someone who is thought to be God on earth addressing his people with such a speech. I cannot imagine what that must have been like. I have no doubt that he was able to defeat these Sea Peoples because he was a naturally gifted leader who could inspire.
I can only think of one other person, maybe two, whose words were as inspirational. They were politicians, very different men, who lived nearly 4000 years part and were able to lead their countrymen to defeat a common foe. We need politicians like them today but I have despaired. Politicians are now about themselves and not the good of their people. I’m not sure we will ever see a leader like them again.
'ate egypt
'ate canaan
'ate bronze
luv me boat
luv invadin
luv copper
nuff said
Simple as
true norf
preinstalled greggs in the pyramid of gaza
@Ian Taylor *ngubuians signed
Phoenicians
There’s one line from the beginning of a tablet uncovered from Knossos which says simply: “thus the watchers are guarding the coast”. I always find that ominous.
Do you have a source?
I was reading up on Ramesses III and apparently some historians believe that these accounts and a lot of the great works under him was due to insecurity and trying to affirm himself as supreme ruler
He basically was given the misfortune of a ruling in a chaotic world with invasions, a crumbling economy, and climate change - all playing into each other. Not an enviable position.
Your all here scared of ww3 or coronavirus and I'm heating just terrified for the day The Sea people return
Think they'll bring the crab people with them?
No your wrong
Facts 😂
*Drums*
SEA PEOPLE
SEA PEOPLE
SEA PEOPLE
LOOK LIKE SEA
TALK LIKE PEOPLE
What a splendid reference!
Amaxing
Damn that takes me back
Incorrect reference. The correct one is: Semen + Sea People = Seaciety.
Best reference ever!
I love quotations from the humblest Pharaoh!
Exactly what I was thinking lmao
Nice video lad. Just an interesting tid bit if folks are interested, it’s likely (based on artistic depictions) that Mycenaean Greeks served as mercenaries in the Egyptian Army. It strikes me as likely that they had at least something to do with the Sea People’s, especially as the Mainland Greek cities collapsed one by one- those soldiers had to go somewhere, and why not some of them having a go at their former employers in Egypt?
I think the Mycenaeans were of Egyptian origin.
this reply section's going to explode I'll bet.
Some of the peoples the Egyptians listed near the start had been referenced in previous Egyptian records. IIRC the Peleset and a couple others (I think 8pm the Weshesh) were originally groups from Greece, and they've done genetic studies of about a dozen skeletons from Ascalon (which was a major Palestinian (Peleset) city) a bit later than this, which showed that those tested all had southern European ancestry (which admittedly isn't _very_ helpful in narrowing down, but in all likelihood means Sicily, Sardinia, and Greece at the furthest).
Rameses the 3rd sounds like such a humble guy 😊
Rameses III would never refer to himself as "Rameses the Third", because the ordinal numbers after the name were not used in Egypt. He would refer to himself as "My Incarnation" or he would use his throne name: Usermaatre Meriamun (this is a conventional Egyptological writing/pronunciation of it, back in the day they would pronounce it a bit differently).
It's a minor detail, but it somewhat breaks the immersion.
Thank you, very interesting didn't know this
For 99.9% of people it would be the other way around. It would just confused everyone.
User Ma'at Ra Mery Amen Heka Annu a.k.a. Ramsessu [Ramses] III.
@ we know that mAat was pronunced "Muʀ'a" (with the silent final t), Ra was "Ria", both with the ayin sound at the end, and Imn was "Amun" or "Amana" depending on the reconstruction. I have no idea how the other words here were pronounced.
Ramesses was pronounced "Ria'-misiasu", with the a in Ria' being ayin.
Note: this is all Egyptian pronunciation before the Canaanite vowel shift (that is, classical Middle Egyptian pronunciation), which might not be completely appropriate for the Ramesside period.
@ Sure, but the final -t in feminine nouns was not pronounced when the noun was in the status absolutus (at least since the 5th Dynasty).
Me and the boys destroying some Bronze Age civilizations.
@2 much Wu pho Yóu Then my statement is totally accurate.
@2 much Wu pho Yóu sigh! One of you people.
@2 much Wu pho Yóu Also, you do know that sub-saharan africans first started using iron/steel around 1500 bc. So your beloved "europoids aren't special.
@@beninwarrior4579 So why were the Sub Saharans not able to conquer large amounts of lands and create civilizations as was back then?
Just a curious question not trying to get racial.
@@tavus1879 Of course you ot trying to ger racial "Vikingr96" lol
The humblest of kings, too!
Lol. I wrote the same thing before reading your post.
I imagine him talking like Trump.
@@Halvtooth ha ha. Exactly
It's hard to be humble when you are perfect in every way.
My Humility Knows No Bounds. I Found All The Humble kings Of The World, Slew them, And Added their Humility To My Own.
So fascinating to hear the thoughts of those from history rather than to hear someone's opinion of a pile of rock in the desert and what it was like then.. Such a fascinating site this.. carry on.. it is muchly appreciated...
Thanks! Glad you enjoy it
These are called “primary documents” and history is to be based off of these, THEN historians form their opinions using these documents as a basis for their arguments. Well... in a perfect world maybe...
@@AristonSparta Well.. my world is perfect.. but then I am 68 and do not let the outside in much anymore.. It's all to crazy and hard to understand any more.. I have my books, my music, Fishing and a bit of youtube and to top it all off I have a lovely woman to take care of me.. She has been doing it for 35 years now and I am (as they say) in hog heaven.. so my world is perfect.. May you find your perfect world soon also..
@tinkmarshino thank you, I do hope I find mine soon too, but I think I involve the outside world too much and take on the cares of the world. I cannot stand seeing all the problems and simple lack of efficiency in the world.
God bless, and thank you 😊
@@AristonSparta oh I understand and agree with you.. But the way I look at it is that I will do my best for my corner of the world
and bring as much peace, happiness and healing that I can.. those that God wants to touch through me he brings to me.. those that do not come are for others to help.. This way I do not become overwhelmed by the pain and suffering all over the world.. and I focus on what I can do through the Spirit and lever others to do the same.. if we all do our jobs then the world will be a bit better.. Although as the word says it will get darker and darker.. so we must keep the light burning in our little corner.. so that there is a refuge for the hurting in our world..
This is hands down one of the best channels of youtube!
Great work!!
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying it!
Outstanding job old bean, keep it up
Thanks! Will do
The sea people in Latin were known as the “Siculi” in the Greek “Sekeloi” and the Egyptians refer to them as Shekelesh, were tribes in the land of Sicily..
We don't know that for sure. Carthage, Italy, and Europe were complete unknowns, what they knew came from traders, who were also passing down what they heard from other traders.
Leivve
The Shekelesh are in the Egyptian manuscripts, they refer to them the sea people from the west seas.
Phoenicians were the father of trading they arrived in Sicily in the 9th century BC almost the same time as the Greeks at the time of the Phoenicians the Shekelesh tribes were known by the Greeks as the “Sekeloi” and the “Sherden” who were another tribe of Sardinia also recorded in the Egyptian manuscripts when they attacked Egypt in the 13th century BC..with the Shekelesh
You could trace this all the way back from the classical writings.
I’m reffing to the locations of these tribes known as today Sicily and Sardinia.
Mafia Gangstas looting=Sea People before the mafia
The Peleset are the Philistines
And the Sherden are thought to be Sardinians
Those Sea People were taking good Egyptian jobs
They TOOK OUR JOBS!!!!
Thuk a turr!!!
I love primary sources! Great stuff :-)
This was very interesting & informative. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Interesting that the Sea Peoples were also clean-shaven, if that image of the heap of corpses is supposed to represent them.
In fairness the Egyptians were one of the few civilisations to survive the terrors of the Bronze Age Collapse.
This is largely because the Nile Delta was somewhat immune to the climate shifts that were causing massive droughts and destabilization. It's called the systems collapse theory. Tin to make bronze was very difficult to find and had to be imported from many places. Sometimes as far as Ireland and Europe. This made warfare expensive. Earthquakes and droughts caused massive destabilization. And then to cap it all off, the Sea Peoples came. And the Sea Peoples likely came because the climate shifts were affecting their own homeland. Which is theorized to be Europe and the Mediterranean.
In normal circumstances, the Bronze Age cultures would have survived. But all these calamities happened within a century so they didn't stand a chance.
They were probably the only major civilisation that survived. All other major civilisations collapsed and the remaining people slowly developed into newer civilisations.
@@imnotgivingmynametou don't forget China, they were (obviously) unaffected by the Bronze Age Collapse
Ugh, not really as ancient Egypt was part of Rome before the Bronze Age collapse. After that they didn’t even speak their native language anymore
@@laurajaneluvsbeauty9596 dude Rome wasn't even founded during the bronze age
They came, I saw, I conquered.
-Ramses iii
These are awesome!
What a humble guy this Rameses III is.
"My father behold, the enemy's ships came (here); my cities were burned, and they did evil things in my country. Does not my father know that all my troops and chariots are in the Land of Hatti, and all my ships are in the Land of Lukka?...
Thus, the country is abandoned to itself. May my father know it: the seven ships of the enemy that came here inflicted much damage upon us." - Ammurapi's final letter from Ugarit
Love the video!
This stuff is the stuff. What a great program of very well read historic jewels!
He says this, but I remember vividly someone saying, “Egypt survived, but they didn’t stop the sea people. Nobody did.”
Eric Cline? He notes from Egyptian records that they came 3 times over a dozen or so years but were repelled each time. Egypt "stopped" them but were the only major civilization at the time not to *completely* fall. However, the damage was so great that Egypt was but a shadow of it former self prior to the sea peoples' arrival on the scene.
All very interesting stuff. Not sure I buy into everything he hypothesizes, but his lecture available on UA-cam is still pretty compelling.
@@anonemoose9130 Actually, the civilization that not only survived but thrived during the Bronze Age collapse was Assyria, which became the dominant power all the way down the levantine coast until about the late-11th century BCE, when they had to pull back due to successive waves of new invasions. They were the one power to have enjoyed almost continuous political stability during this period.
It's kind of odd the entire collapse is treated as a dark period, because if anything it gave the region the first taste of Assyrian supremacy. Look up the campaigns of Tiglath-Pileser I (1114-1076 BCE).
What follows is just my own theory based on my own studies of history. I think the memory of this invasion became the Iliad. The launching of the thousand ships...The sea peoples were likely a confederacy of Mediterranean sea faring kingdoms to the west, all the way to Gibralter, led by Mycenaean Greeks to whom they may have been vassals to some extent. The war was probably a result of grievances of tributes and booty or plunder inflicted on them by eastern kingdoms, ie Anatolia-Troy, and others, all the way to Egypt. I don't think it was a colonial campaign caused by drought and famine, as many historians suggest, else they would not have razed all cities. And such drought would even have been worse to the east. The assault ended as Rameses discribed by arrows on the sea. Achilles is the Homeric symbol leader of the war, who was brought down by arrow as it happens, and who it was said had slayed the Ethiopian king Memnon (did Achilles end up in or near Ethiopia ?); granted the lliad says Memnon came to Troy with a contingent...There are many deviations, and anachronisms, in the Iliad, ie the Mycenaean alliance armada did not in fact win, and the anachronisms are best explained by oral retellings of a few centuries of preludes to the all out culmination. But it is true that few returned, and there are many striking nuggets of similarity that could have retained through four centuries of bardic retelling of what became the Iliad, from the collapse to the first written account of Homer. Too many to list here. Also this is the time of the Exodus which I believe was effected to assist in this invasion on the side of Egypt with the promise to at least one tribe of Canaan of their own autonomous, or at least semi autonomous nation as reward, and so began the kingdom of Judah in the wake of this crushed invasion, in the Mosaic constitution known to us today as the Covenant to unite the tribes of Canaan.
JohnnyAmbidextrous Thank you for your research, the way you articulated your speech, and thank you for giving me something to look into in depth.
A. Time of exodus has to be the time of Thira volcano eraption, tsunami, physical destruction of Crete , Red sea crossing. B There are three different geological burnt down time levels of Troy thus Troy had been destroyed thrice. C Greek - Trojan war is the first recorded civil war. D I believe you re right on sea people, Timaios by Plato.Sign Alexander son of Priamus.
Indeed the Trojan war best describes the whole saga.Its important to understand that Agamemnon & the Myceneans led a whole coalition of kings & their peoples to make war in Anatolia.The time period fits perfectly as well.
Well put good sir.
Ah the sea people
I've always wondered who they really were since I first heard of them.
It such fun to try and weave these ancient threads into a coherent thesis.
I've always thought Troy was founded by refugee Hittites after the fall of their empire,but it's only a theory.
Your sea people theory is as good as any I've read, they certainly seem pissed with someone.
David Rohl
I follow for so much time the end of the bronze age, if i remember there was also some others texts (from that time) regarding the invaders but only know small parts of the texts, if you can also include will be great. Great job i was looking for this text for a long time.
Very interesting. .. thank you
Finally you did it
Hurrah!
This account is so old it pre dates modesty 😂
The Pre-Modesty Period (circa 3000 years BP)
Well done.
That was good stuff there.👍
Thanks!
One of the interesting bits of history since we don't know who were the sea peoples.
Zachary Hawley Hyksos with long curly sidelocks. It is thought by some academics they were from the area of Turkey. Pirates who developed their own privateer Admiralty Laws, with which their descendants are busily overriding our Magna Carta law of our land :(. They now own almost everything. They are globalists (globalism means no escape anywhere).
However, in ancient times a lot of them became Babylonians, then Nimrod and a number of his tribe went to Khazaria, whilst others went elsewhere and became i saac sons, their angels and ju tes, and later nor(th)man people.
You can do as I did and buy a wall atlas, then trace migrations BACKWARDS. Not forward from where various academics propose, as they can't all agree. I came up with White Europeans being the ancient Sumarians after the ice sheet there melted. Maybe the horn of Africa before that - but some people have always lived on ice. Still do. So there is no saying really. Some scientists say it isn't possible to date accurately beyond around two hundred years, and less honest scientists do make up claims as to DNA and age, as they want the grants. It's their liveliehoods. The circa 2-3000 year old Silure 'Cheddar Man' is a classic example of scientists fibbing big time - although those two shocked even other scientists with their outlandish claim, their failure to seek peer review, and failure to declare there were other much older cannibalised bones of European Whites in the cave (if dating that far back is to be believed).
So, I decided to pretty much ignore supposed dating of ancient remains and concentrate on migrations, artifacts, styles of writing, language, etymology. A real and interesting learning curve.
@@angebrowne1730 It's painful to read your bragging about your ignorance. I hope you're simply an idiotic troll and not a complete idiot.
@@angebrowne1730 what are you on?
Ange Browne you are a lunatic
Crazy but Ange Brown is right, the peoples of sea was called too hitites/hycsus or anatolians
Rameses III: *enters the battlefield
Sea people: Why do I hear boss music ?
Hahaha funny LoL
Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Rameses appears on the battlefield:
*ドドド!!～AYAYAYAAAAA～ドドド!!*
ayaya ayaya
ua-cam.com/video/D3Lw4eZv-H0/v-deo.html
He Ca Casu
ate
Ra men, oodles.
So, basically, a sort of battle of Normandie... but in Egypt.
Yes, Except the defenders win lol.
Robinson Pittman lmao stop with your Black Afro centrist history.
Sea people were Mediterranean stock, hardly your typical White Northern European people.
The Hyksos were ancient Levantines from modern day Palestine, lebanon & Syria.
They were not white.
Sea people’s & Hyksos are from broader caucasoid people, but they looked ethnically & physically nothing like your white folk from Texas USA or London England.
😂😂😂
@@finalprophet813 Lol yeah. Black washing Egypts history is a disgrace and the worst kind of revisionism.
@@finalprophet813 since when are meds not white
I like how he said "Circle of the Earth"
Sphere Earth Society has members all around the circle!
yep, not as accurate as modern measurements of course, but the earth was know to be of a spherical shape in ancient egypt. Armchair Egyptologist channel has a video on that
Watching history channels about my genetic ancestor is such a rush. 🔥👍🏼
This is awesome! where could I find a transcript of the hieroglyphic and translated text? I could use the practice
A sacrifice to the algorithm gods
Take my upvote
Welcome home, friend.
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Titel made me expect Deep Ones ;)
Excellent Video ! Pharaoh Ramses III was the Winston Churchill of ancient Egypt. Like Great Britain in the summer of 1940, Egypt too stood alone against the oncoming Sea Peoples whirlwind of destruction ! Everyone should try to visit the Temple of Medinet Habu in Egypt - dedicated to Ramses III !
Classy!~
Classy chap
This kid, Shlomo Hershalwitzenbergstein, he says he's from Shekelesh too.
Oy vey, muh shekelesh!
TheZapan99 we have to find a solution to the sea people problem.
God, you losers are here too? Smh what did juice ever do to you?
SeekerOfTruths if the glove fits rich cousin.
SeekerOfTruths speaking of being rich, rich cousin, i have an idea that you may find mmmmmmmmm profitable! We must trick these gentiles into doing something! Then sue them! I know not why they disgust us so, what haven’t we not done to them for them to deserve it rich cousin?
Sardinia, Sicily, Greece, Spain.
Probably some of these no?
Nice
Boy, he sure had a big ego. But setting aside my silly thoughts, I am truly enjoying learning the voices of the ancients and the elegance with which many leaders expressed their views and told their accounts. Thank you again for another great video.
Why shouldn’t he have? He along with everyone else thought he was the pinnacle of divinity on earth
"ReTuRn ThE sLaB" 0:08
Or suffer my curse
Peleset are the Philistines, right?
So humble.
epic stuff
Yep!
The Sea Peoples lived on islands in the Mediterranean. The Philistines were originally from Kaphtor.
But they were Semitic people, right?
@@user-hh2is9kg9j The Philistines? No, they were 1 of the sea People's. The Canaanites are who you're thinking of.
@@davidkelly4210 well being one of the sea people doesn't mean they can't be Semitic, does it?
Watch a speech of taser Arafat in Athens 1996 of philistines origin.
I won this war because I’m totally the best, just the best- no one better- and by Amun’s grace I was able to defeat these terrible warriors- very strong, very fierce- in their boats. There were so many of them, but it didn’t matter, I still won. Such a good victory. So many dead enemies. Because I had the best plan, and it worked because Amun said it should- such a great God- and because I’m so strong and amazing
Idk why I read this comment in Trumps voice 😂
Epic.
Is this a translation of a hieroglyphic text? If so, could you tell me the bibliographic entry or whatever source you got the hieroglyphic text? I would like to read the hieroglyphic text.
It's so wild that we don't know who exactly caused one of the most impactful, and significant events in human history. I wonder who the leaders of the Sea Peoples were? Must have been some charismatic individuals.
Not a ton to go on but it truly seems like there were no formal leaders. Perhaps there were smaller scale ones because there were so many different folks mixed together. I'm really surprised and grateful that we know as much as we do lol
I like how the branded himself at the end while signing off
Mehmet Cem Unal deuces
Rameses III made a great diss track
I'm digging the poetry in this language, as a result of the difficult translation.
"They decimated his lands and his people like That-Which-Is-Not."
You have been visited by the opposite of existence... Beyond obliteration.
5:50 Peleset = Pelasgoi (pre-Indoeuropean Greeks from Thessaly and Crete, later Philistines), Tjeker ("Thekel"?) = Teucrians = Trojans, Shekelesh = semitic mercenaries (i.e. "shekel" = weight and coin, later Sicels/Siculi), Denyen = Danaoi (Indoeuropean Greeks from Central and Southern mainland Greece), Weshesh = maybe Ausonians (pre-Indoeuropeans from Southern Italy, known pirates).
I have two doubts:
1. If the Teucrians were involved, was this before or after the Trojan War, before they'd be allies, after rather subjects of the Greeks (Denyen).
2. Could the Weshesh be Cypriots (just then in the process of being turned into Greeks) instead of Italian pirates? This I conjecture from Alashya being then the name of Cyprus and, if we remove the al- (Semitic article?) part, it leaves Ashya (presumed origin of the word Asia). Ashya and Weshesh are not that different, but neither is Auso(n).
Interesting
@@Zerox_Prime - Glad you think so.
some other said siculi is sicilian?
@@Adhjie - I agree with that but IMO the Siculi are foreign arrivals to Sicily, maybe with a first stay in peninsular Italy, where they probably arrived in the early Iron Age (c. 900 BCE?) along with the Etruscans (Teresh or Tyrsenoi).
The main rationale for this is that Sicilians are very unusual in their genetics, strongly tending to Syria-Lebanon specifically, something no other European population (save the Maltese) does. While for westernmos Sicily and Malta this could be explained by Phoenician colonization, it cannot be the case for Eastern and Central Sicily, where there was never stable Phoenician presence at all.
Also the Shekelesh are mentioned by the Egyptians as one of the few Sea Peoples who were circumcised, a practica that is original from Egypt itself and surely extended to the Levant under Egyptian control in the Bronze Age. Shekelesh also sounds like "those of the shekels", shekel being a Canaanite weight unit, typically used for silver and later also the name of coins (much like the pound in Britain). So my take is that the Shekelesh were necessarily Canaanites dedicated to mercenariate or piracy or both, probably some sort of proto-Phoenicians.
Rameses should have built a wall.
Actually just went over this in class today
This whole time I’m just picturing Nacho Libre singing RAMSES NUMER ONE HE IS THE BEST
Arwad, island near Syria? Do you mean Cyprus?
Cyprus also had an awful lot of elongated "foreign ruler" Mittani-style skulls in the hypogeums. I stress this because they are hybrid Magi class and stayed that way as long as they could, since Shemsu Hor. Looks like they held the entire region before Marduk's biblical conflagrations paved the way, city by city, for an easy mop-up by his pathetic conformist class.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arwad
@@LuisAldamiz Thank you
Cyprus was called Kittim by Semitic peoples in the Near East. I do not know what the Egyptians called it.
@@savenetneutralityanti-repu7029 Kittim was a city on cyprus tho
The mystery of the Sea Peoples is one I've know about for awhile. Than as I started watching this video I thought about Plato's story of Atlantis and how after they lost their island home. They are said to have wagged war on the civilizations of the Mediterranean. I have to wonder now if the Sea Peoples might be the armies of Atlantis or what remained of them after the fall. I was also thinking about the name Sea Peoples and how that name would fit well with the Atlantains. Who were suppose to be children of Neptune God of the Sea.
The Remnant Atlanteans, wonder where they settled then?
Did not Ramses III have many of these captured remaining sea peoples enslaved. Then removed their hands and tongues, so that this people could no longer speak of their greatness. If I remember correctly, this was depicted in an ancient Egyptian relief.
"like that which is not" does it get more badass than that?
Listen to this again but with the pillar men theme song playing in the background
Stern to bow! He doesn't mean "bow" as in bow & arrow. He means "bow" as in the pointy end of a ship. It rhymes with "cow".
Stern to bow means from end to end of a ship.
The beginning of the Phoenician Golden Age was around the same time as the Late Bronze Age Collapse. They most likely were the "Sea People" given that they were a Thalassocratic Empire that dominated the Mediterranean Sea and its trade.
@Adam Defibaugh Yes, the Hittite and Egyptian Empires were either at war with each other or formed a coalition against Phoenicia. Either way Phoenicia must have created a grand alliance using the tribes in Iberia, Sardinia and various other coastal regions of the Mediterranean, either to protect themselves or to kick the two superpowers while they were down. With those tribes, Phoenicia launched naval invasions on both Egypt and the Hittites. The Egyptian invasions were largely unsuccessful but managed to cripple the Egyptian economy. The Hittite invasion on the other hand was very successful, with many Hittite cities being destroyed and plundered. As for Mycenaean Greece, I think it was just collateral. The alliance must have been riding on a high with the success of the Hittite campaign and decided to raid the only other superpower left. This would've caught the Greeks by surprise, which would explain why they suffered far more damage than the Egyptians and Hittites combined. Assuming that the Trojan War was in fact historical, it'd have taken place around this same time frame. This would also be able explain how Mycenaean Greece went down so easily, as most of the Greek armies would have been busy on the Trojan campaign.
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They say he was extremely humble
That's enough source yo a época movie. Also remembers me the war of Troy
When I die ... I hope to find out who on earth these people were. I have heard many MANY detailed theorys... . . But none of them will ever be known as the truth
Propaganda story to elevate the Pharoah haha couple of little border fights
Atlantean's
The Nagas. Duh!
Wherent they minoans
Reminds me of the white walkers from Game of Thrones coming across the wall and invading. Off topic and on a tangent from this video, but the wall was something people believe existed 2000 years ago in the North. The Gog (Yajuj) and Magog (Majuj) from the Bible were believed to be up in the northern regions behind a blanket of clouds that kept them there until they were released in the end times to wreak havoc on the world. Ibn Fadlan who went up the Volga river for example from Iraq wrote about these concerns that he was going to their world.
The same concept of those two tribes (with some alterations) is found in the Quran, hence why ibn fadlan knew of them.
@@ahmadtarek7763 my god that dude that also document kievan rus ship burning burial ritual ? nice
68 Philistines disliked this.
Propaganda is hardly a modern invention it seems.
Lovely vid, thanks !
Thanks for watching!
"The circle of the earth" is a phrase in the Bible and often comes up in flat earth debates. Now we know where it comes from.
That caught my attention.
what is the intro music?
I remember seeing another vid on this subject . Could they be the Iberomaurusian people ? They were very battle hungry and they were in this area at the time I believe .
They also seem to have something to do with the time after the mythological kingdom of atlantis had fell.
ua-cam.com/video/DtupDWfp1D0/v-deo.html
Theres a theory that they were Mycinian Greeks from the wars with Troy.
Pros&Cons Unlikely, considering that the Sea People also reeked havoc on the Mycenaeans as well. This is actually how Greeks as we know them today emerged. After the Sea People invasion, the Mycenaean kingdoms were destroyed, the Linear B script was forgotten and the region went many years back in terms of progress, in an event called the Greek Dark Ages. After a some centuries however, the Greeks modified the Phoenician alphabet to make their own and built the Ancient Greek civilisation
My take is that: Peleset = Pelasgoi (pre-Indoeuropean Greeks from Thessaly and Crete, later Philistines), Tjeker ("Thekel"?) = Teucrians = Trojans, Shekelesh = semitic mercenaries (i.e. "shekel" = weight and coin, later Sicels/Siculi), Denyen = Danaoi (Indoeuropean Greeks from Central and Southern mainland Greece), Weshesh = maybe Ausonians (pre-Indoeuropeans from Southern Italy, known pirates). This implies that Trojans (Tjeker) and Greeks (Danaoi) were allies in these expeditions, however the chronology is very close to the most likely scenario of the Trojan War, so there should be some sort of relation. Maybe those Tjeker were just the remnants of a destroyed Troy, all under Greek leadership now, this would be particularly true if they first sacked the Hittite Empire, to which Troy was probably vassal or otherwise satellite.
Well, we get it, Ramses III, you liked to brag a lot :d
Egypt was the only civilization of the time to survive. Worth bragging about, no?
@So Who's the Dummy Now? the Indus civilization was a victim of the Bronze Age Collapse and China had no meaningful contact with the outside world until the late classical period so is irrelevant to Near Eastern civilization. The only major civilization to survive was Egypt. The very concept of writing outside Egypt had to be reinvented because literacy rates fell to a literal 0%, no major cities were built and no great advancements were made (even in Egypt). This lasted for several centuries until the Phoenician and Hellen city states kickstarted civilization anew.
I would brag if I was the freaking Pharaoh of Egypt
public school typical: so this was like over in Egypt, alabama in old dude times? yeah, i been through there one summer w my gm.
Rameses: did I mention how humble I am
The UK could use a Rameses III right about now to fend off the new Sea People.
Sea Peoples: The Atlanteans
@ryan worthy modern day Iraq is actually associated with the Babylonians not the sea people's. At least none to my knowledge could they have been sub part of a sea people's idk but the actual ones no.
@ryan worthy What nonsense, Babylonians were never 'black', maybe they had a few as slaves though.
This is a new level of being prepotent. Loved this video anyway 🙌
Thanks!
which hieroglyph is this taken from?