I know you are very invested in your own personal Ironman Journey. But I really enjoyed this video, it would be cool if you made your own running team similar to like how Tinman has there group. You, Spence, and Allie
I thought I was watching Man vs Food until the running started. Have you considered a side career in competitive eating? All the glory of triathlon without all that gnarly training. Congratulations BTW :)
Awesome, congrats on the win! Love some ultra trail. But dude, 1000g of carboload!? I've heard some semi-credible sources saying 10g/kg is top of what you can absorb in loading - and that's with the right stimulus from a bit of muscle work. Probably better to top up the last bit the morning of the race if you want to be absolutely full? But I'm no expert....😅
Most prominent study was 12g/kg for 3 days following a depletion protocol. Resulted in 1.8x higher muscle glycogen than previous "full tank". Tim Podlagar (nutritionist for Bora Hansgrohe) suggested 12g/kg the day before an endurance event as well as 1g/kg/hour in the morning (e.g. 3g/kg if eating 3hrs out, don't necessarily want to eat all the way up to the start) before the event to top off liver stores as the liver works overnight to top off the muscles, and that was with no depletion protocol. Yes 1000g (I'm ~74-75kg so well over 12g/kg mark) is maybe a little excessive but this was a great event to test the limits of consumption since I wasn't too concerned about blowing it. The other thing regarding that study is as far as I know they never tested, for example, 15g/kg to see if there is more glycogen super compensation or if it maxes out around that 1.8 mark so to a certain extent I'm experimenting on myself. Metabolically I felt great the entire 50k so I think 1000g is a safe number for the future.
@@archmdz if you do this another ultra in the future or another 12-15g/kg, I wonder what other types of carbohydrate would do to your GI system mid-race, specifically if more complex sources would leave fewer undigestible carbohydrates for the colonic bacteria leading to the ... mishap. You mentioned the caffeine pills every hour, did you also happen to track your sodium intake?
@@archmdz love the effort and brain power here, I highly recommend continuing to experiment in the Vermont 50k for example, this weekend, I'm racing 🤓 Congrats man, this is huge, loved the video - and yeah, I second getting salts in check toward the end of long efforts - related to your cramping I reckon, pop a saltstick chewable every 20 minutes
Recovery Aid -- decreases time to replenish muscle glycogen after a hard session (which is the purpose of having carbs after a session, so ketones make your recovery drink 50% more powerful) Cognitive Aid - This one is less studied than the previous but it helps with "brain fog" and focus since the brain utilizes ketones easily and so has fuel as blood glucose/muscle glycogen is running lower. I would guess it is more of a "Central Governor" effect (read Noakes for more) but seems to provide a performance benefit nonetheless.
Not necessary if I've already hit the amount of carbs I wanted to that day. I tried that before one race simulation session (which went well) and then 70.3 Oregon (which didn't go well) and then stumbled upon the current carb loading protocol (12g/kg throughout the day before) so it wasn't necessary anymore. Also don't need all that protein, just did it for the carbs which I can get from other sources.
I could probably "go pro" but unless I stopped triathlon entirely I doubt I'd be very good. Not that I'm even that great compared to the top level pros in triathlon, so I have to keep chipping away there. Not interested in switching focus to trails/ultra -- this was just for fun.
Probably about 50 people, but I knew ahead of time it was unlikely to be competitive. I didn't *expect* to win though as I thought there was a good chance I blow up and walk the last 10 miles and get passed by less fit but better trained and more experienced runners. Went better than I thought!
@@archmdz honestly dude, props to you. those are the kind of events that a lot of people in trail & ultra running love and respect... low key, grass roots. Sooo I'll cut the shit I give you the respect you deserve. Strong run, and you won. 👊
@@archmdz I swear I replied, but it isn't here. Listen man, just keep on going strong and figuring out what the roots of ultra trail are, and working on taking the asshole vibes from a 6 to a 3 (out of 10, I can relate) and you will get along real well. It's work, as I said. Sorry for the sarcastic comment and keep up what you do. Honestly though? Don't listen to me. Do focus on those good grassroots origins though, which the spirit of this race seemed to follow.
I only eat like crap the day before the race because the goal is to consume as many simple carbohydrates and as little fiber as possible. Believe it or not it is a research and performance backed protocol used by some of the best endurance athletes in the world.
The most anticlimactic start of a race 😂
Alright... Go..
That's usually how trail races start. Just someone saying alright you can go now.
You know with all those miles and donuts you could have turned this into a 24, 18, 12, 6 challenge attempt pretty easily
Is no one gonna talk about Randy running an ultramarathon with no training and still looking alright??
I saw Randy racewalk in one of these videos and no doubt he has a future in it- not too late for the Olympic dream!
He's like a 14-minute, maybe sub 14 5k guy. Even if he was lazy for years after college you still hang onto that fitness for a while
"I feel like this is goin well" - Guy who just sharted his pants
lol LOVE IT
Disclaimer: TTL mug may cause sharting.
I know you are very invested in your own personal Ironman Journey. But I really enjoyed this video, it would be cool if you made your own running team similar to like how Tinman has there group. You, Spence, and Allie
I thought I was watching Man vs Food until the running started. Have you considered a side career in competitive eating? All the glory of triathlon without all that gnarly training. Congratulations BTW :)
Congrats on the first ultra finish and win! Insane!
Maybe you and your squad can do hood to coast next year as a team?? That'd be a fun one!
Just seems like yesterday you were undefeated in triathlon ❤
I’m gonna go look at her channel so hard 😆 stumbled upon your channel! Likes the content! Come down to do some ultra running in Oregon!
Timberline Trail is a bucket lister
I thought you were going to stop at the three eggo waffles but it just kept going💀
I was ready for more, im sitting at 5k calories maintaining
Nice to see you started training for our 2024 OnionMan rematch! 😜 Congrats on the dub, though, for real! Killer views, wow.
Thanks for this video Ari
undefeated lol I love it. trail running is way more fun than triathlon though.
Nice work Ari!
Human body is dope, insane how you can consume that. Cheers!
Carb king 🔥
If I consumed all those carbs, I would shart too! 💨💨😂
UNDEFEATED YES LET'S GO!
Triathlons are the most elite athletes 😎, ate giant bowl of oatmeal while watching this for carb up
Awesome, congrats on the win! Love some ultra trail. But dude, 1000g of carboload!? I've heard some semi-credible sources saying 10g/kg is top of what you can absorb in loading - and that's with the right stimulus from a bit of muscle work. Probably better to top up the last bit the morning of the race if you want to be absolutely full? But I'm no expert....😅
Most prominent study was 12g/kg for 3 days following a depletion protocol. Resulted in 1.8x higher muscle glycogen than previous "full tank". Tim Podlagar (nutritionist for Bora Hansgrohe) suggested 12g/kg the day before an endurance event as well as 1g/kg/hour in the morning (e.g. 3g/kg if eating 3hrs out, don't necessarily want to eat all the way up to the start) before the event to top off liver stores as the liver works overnight to top off the muscles, and that was with no depletion protocol.
Yes 1000g (I'm ~74-75kg so well over 12g/kg mark) is maybe a little excessive but this was a great event to test the limits of consumption since I wasn't too concerned about blowing it. The other thing regarding that study is as far as I know they never tested, for example, 15g/kg to see if there is more glycogen super compensation or if it maxes out around that 1.8 mark so to a certain extent I'm experimenting on myself. Metabolically I felt great the entire 50k so I think 1000g is a safe number for the future.
@@archmdz if you do this another ultra in the future or another 12-15g/kg, I wonder what other types of carbohydrate would do to your GI system mid-race, specifically if more complex sources would leave fewer undigestible carbohydrates for the colonic bacteria leading to the ... mishap. You mentioned the caffeine pills every hour, did you also happen to track your sodium intake?
@@archmdz wow, thanks for the in depth response! Very interesting and I understand your argument for trying it out. I rest my case 😬🫶🤝
@@archmdz love the effort and brain power here, I highly recommend continuing to experiment in the Vermont 50k for example, this weekend, I'm racing 🤓 Congrats man, this is huge, loved the video - and yeah, I second getting salts in check toward the end of long efforts - related to your cramping I reckon, pop a saltstick chewable every 20 minutes
Awesome vid!
You run like a Skyrim character
TTL Mug!
What is the official race? Interested in participating next year 😊
Three Corner Rock PCT 50k. Highly recommend!
Sharted pants at mile 10?! 😫 And still chipper?
Ari what does the Keytones do for you - please explain thank u
Recovery Aid -- decreases time to replenish muscle glycogen after a hard session (which is the purpose of having carbs after a session, so ketones make your recovery drink 50% more powerful)
Cognitive Aid - This one is less studied than the previous but it helps with "brain fog" and focus since the brain utilizes ketones easily and so has fuel as blood glucose/muscle glycogen is running lower. I would guess it is more of a "Central Governor" effect (read Noakes for more) but seems to provide a performance benefit nonetheless.
Algo
my guy
do you still do the weight gainer shakes at night before big sessions/races
Not necessary if I've already hit the amount of carbs I wanted to that day. I tried that before one race simulation session (which went well) and then 70.3 Oregon (which didn't go well) and then stumbled upon the current carb loading protocol (12g/kg throughout the day before) so it wasn't necessary anymore. Also don't need all that protein, just did it for the carbs which I can get from other sources.
@@archmdz thanks for response
Do you think you could go pro in ultra running, or is the sport not big enough?
I could probably "go pro" but unless I stopped triathlon entirely I doubt I'd be very good. Not that I'm even that great compared to the top level pros in triathlon, so I have to keep chipping away there. Not interested in switching focus to trails/ultra -- this was just for fun.
That makes sense! Will keep rooting you on.@@archmdz
Great result and will help with the IM. Lotta carbs man, hope you can stave of the diabetes😯
Wait what, you sharted and kept running? Lol
lets go! you did great. I'm sure your dad is proud
Darn toot'n his dad is proud! :)
@@appealguythe legend ari’s dad
Mom’s proud, too
Were you racing against like, five other runners??
Probably about 50 people, but I knew ahead of time it was unlikely to be competitive. I didn't *expect* to win though as I thought there was a good chance I blow up and walk the last 10 miles and get passed by less fit but better trained and more experienced runners. Went better than I thought!
@@archmdz honestly dude, props to you. those are the kind of events that a lot of people in trail & ultra running love and respect... low key, grass roots. Sooo I'll cut the shit I give you the respect you deserve. Strong run, and you won. 👊
@@archmdz I swear I replied, but it isn't here. Listen man, just keep on going strong and figuring out what the roots of ultra trail are, and working on taking the asshole vibes from a 6 to a 3 (out of 10, I can relate) and you will get along real well. It's work, as I said. Sorry for the sarcastic comment and keep up what you do. Honestly though? Don't listen to me. Do focus on those good grassroots origins though, which the spirit of this race seemed to follow.
how about starting trail running?👍
he just did. did you even watch?
@@wutwutwut8687 thats the reason i was saying it… he should trail run instead triathlon… sorry that you did not get it
I hope you changed your shorts before the ride home…😬
enjoy those days of being able to eat like crap lol in my 30s acid reflux hit me hard. luckily it is not genetic for you like me
I only eat like crap the day before the race because the goal is to consume as many simple carbohydrates and as little fiber as possible. Believe it or not it is a research and performance backed protocol used by some of the best endurance athletes in the world.
dk why but 0:31 had me rolling 😂