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I would debate that "we all know what it means to have faith in God" today---just as SK debated it in his time. I would also argue that the Knight of Faith in the midst of bad circumstances is the one who says, "This is a terrible situation, but my faith says that "regardless of my pain, God loves me and is good" --not one who says, "This terrible situation is good".
I think faith for Kierkegaard would be the faith in Jesus Christ as revealed through Christian scripture. This would make it more difficult for atrocities to be committed. It should also be noted of course that many atrocities have been committed in the name of rationality and reason.
The funny thing is that Early Christianity was very Pacifistic for the time. Only becoming more accepting of serving in the Military after Constantine to align more with the Political Reality.
I always took the knight of faith idea in a softer form. Like the knight of faith concept works pretty well if you replace "god" with any grouping of values(which some have called god the embodiment of exactly that) and believe in it against all reason not to. Take morality in general. It sometimes seems that sometimes there is not real basis for why we ought to logically believe that any set of moral values are right over another. Yet people will dye defending them. I believe in things like, love, trust, kindness, forgiveness, and patience. I think the world and individual lives would be better if we all valued them more. One could argue that in terms of reason there is no solid foundation that cant be pocked at. However I simply don't care. I will always think those are good values to have. Take any villain in a movie or story who has a good reason that we find hard to argue, the hero even if understanding, will stick to his virtues and win the day. My favorite example that might put this more into perspective is Naruto Uzumaki from the show Naruto. He wants to be Hokage(village leader) even though he is a slow learner, wants to be a powerful Shinobi(ninja) and save his friend who has all but abandoned goodness and their friend ship. Even in the face of these overwhelming odds, he proclaims he will be Hokage, be a strong ninja, and get his villainess friend back to the side of goodness! And sure en0ough he does it, despite the odds against him. To me this softer form of the knight of faith is more like a message to never give up despite the world being against you, because you believe in yourself or some higher values. Or in Kierkegaard's case, God.
I think that the The Knight of Faith 's double movement is justified as long as Aristotle's golden mean is followed or better still, Buddhism's Madhyama marga (the middle path). Anything's extreme is lethal for all stakeholders involved !
I identify with the Knights of Faith, but I wouldn't want to harm anyone because of my faith. The point here is if we could put aside what we "want" and learn how to think, "if it's for the good of all, then let ______ happen."
Great video and great description of the "night of faith" Even though i disagree with some elements of it. Like how Abraham chose faith in light of the absurd. First off, Abraham wasn't asked to murder Isaac, he was asked to offer him up as a sacrifice, and Abraham knew that God would provide another sacrifice because he told the servants who were traveling with him that him and Isaac would both be back from the sacrifice shortly. Second, Abraham wasn't choosing faith over the absurd. Abraham had very good reasons to believe that God would do right and true just as he had done before for Abraham. Up until this point in Abrahams life God continually showed Abraham how faithful He was, and how Abraham had good reason to trust His judgment. Abraham had every reason and good judgment to trust God because God had not given Abraham any reason to do otherwise. Therefore to Abraham it wasn't ubsurd to offer Isaac as a sacrifice, it was just another request of God's that Abraham knew would be made right by God in the end. That's Faith. Knowing that God is worthy of trust because He has proven it to countless others before, and so if He done it for them, He'll do it for us because "for there is no respect of persons with God."
If you give up all logic and reason, you could become an extremist? I'd venture that extremism is a route that even logical and rational people can be lead on to. If you rely only on logic without any faith you could conclude that humanity needs to be eliminated.
Believing something which is apparently false because one would prefer that it were true is wishful thinking. It's a pernicious cognitive bias that's difficult to avoid even if one isn't part of a subculture that exalts it as the highest human virtue. Faith is indeed dangerous for all the reasons John mentioned, and IMHO a sense of epistemic responsibility is incomparably more praiseworthy.
God is not false. The disbelief in God leading to a Western society in America that rejects reality harder. You cannot deny this. The New Secular America rejects reality more than the more religious America. When asking "What is a Woman" becomes a Politically charged question. When an Observable reality everyone can see is now politically charged, You cannot claim to hold an idea being in reality anymore
So did Kierkegaard's fiancee think he was a spineless bastard or a knight of faith? Too bad he didn't man up and marry the woman and have faith it would work out in the end.
Nah lol. You can prove a person exists and we have faith insofar as how we have faith the internet works. Totally different nuance, no matter how you want to hide anti-western sentiment as intellectualism
Wrong. It doesn't work. Politicians and such people were a thing for Soren Kierkegaard. If anything not only are you speaking Babels. It ends up proving Soren Kierkegaard how Utterly important it is to have this belief in God. For removing it, people will look for anything with Meaning. Heck. The Rise of Anti human Environmentalism is part of this.
@@atharvakgb i mean that him describing the ideal religiose person as immune to reason and believes in their religion for no reason other that blind faith, is exactly the way that angry atheist describe them, i. Just thought that that was funny.
Camus' approach to the Absurd seems way less problematic while leaving the necessity of God's existence out of the equation. Occam's Razor slits Kierkegaard's throat. Get rekt, Danish boy.
This script to this video is part of the Philosophy Vibe “Existentialism” eBook, available on amazon:
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I would debate that "we all know what it means to have faith in God" today---just as SK debated it in his time. I would also argue that the Knight of Faith in the midst of bad circumstances is the one who says, "This is a terrible situation, but my faith says that "regardless of my pain, God loves me and is good" --not one who says, "This terrible situation is good".
Thank you, the way my textbook and some other videos explained it just wasn't clicking for me, but this video did the job!
Very nicely done! Much
more inspiring than either Heidegger or Sartre!
Glad you enjoyed :)
Thanks!
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all of it 8:33
I think faith for Kierkegaard would be the faith in Jesus Christ as revealed through Christian scripture. This would make it more difficult for atrocities to be committed. It should also be noted of course that many atrocities have been committed in the name of rationality and reason.
The funny thing is that Early Christianity was very Pacifistic for the time. Only becoming more accepting of serving in the Military after Constantine to align more with the Political Reality.
Excellent video
Great work👌
Thank you 😀
Excellent
Do one video on sickness unto death
I always took the knight of faith idea in a softer form. Like the knight of faith concept works pretty well if you replace "god" with any grouping of values(which some have called god the embodiment of exactly that) and believe in it against all reason not to. Take morality in general. It sometimes seems that sometimes there is not real basis for why we ought to logically believe that any set of moral values are right over another. Yet people will dye defending them. I believe in things like, love, trust, kindness, forgiveness, and patience. I think the world and individual lives would be better if we all valued them more. One could argue that in terms of reason there is no solid foundation that cant be pocked at. However I simply don't care. I will always think those are good values to have. Take any villain in a movie or story who has a good reason that we find hard to argue, the hero even if understanding, will stick to his virtues and win the day. My favorite example that might put this more into perspective is Naruto Uzumaki from the show Naruto. He wants to be Hokage(village leader) even though he is a slow learner, wants to be a powerful Shinobi(ninja) and save his friend who has all but abandoned goodness and their friend ship. Even in the face of these overwhelming odds, he proclaims he will be Hokage, be a strong ninja, and get his villainess friend back to the side of goodness! And sure en0ough he does it, despite the odds against him. To me this softer form of the knight of faith is more like a message to never give up despite the world being against you, because you believe in yourself or some higher values. Or in Kierkegaard's case, God.
By replacing God you defeat the whole point of the Knight of Faith.
@@silverhawkscape2677 That really depends on your definition of god.
I think that the The Knight of Faith 's double movement is justified as long as Aristotle's golden mean is followed or better still, Buddhism's Madhyama marga (the middle path). Anything's extreme is lethal for all stakeholders involved !
Thanks for the content very informative and got my brain moving haha also Knights of Infinite Resignation sound like a cool jam-band name.
Glad you enjoyed the content, thanks for watching.
I think some Knights of Faith must play chess, and they're the ones with really low elo's.
*high
How can i get the e-book. Amazon is not available in my country
Excellent video. (:
I identify with the Knights of Faith, but I wouldn't want to harm anyone because of my faith. The point here is if we could put aside what we "want" and learn how to think, "if it's for the good of all, then let ______ happen."
Great video and great description of the "night of faith" Even though i disagree with some elements of it. Like how Abraham chose faith in light of the absurd. First off, Abraham wasn't asked to murder Isaac, he was asked to offer him up as a sacrifice, and Abraham knew that God would provide another sacrifice because he told the servants who were traveling with him that him and Isaac would both be back from the sacrifice shortly. Second, Abraham wasn't choosing faith over the absurd. Abraham had very good reasons to believe that God would do right and true just as he had done before for Abraham. Up until this point in Abrahams life God continually showed Abraham how faithful He was, and how Abraham had good reason to trust His judgment. Abraham had every reason and good judgment to trust God because God had not given Abraham any reason to do otherwise. Therefore to Abraham it wasn't ubsurd to offer Isaac as a sacrifice, it was just another request of God's that Abraham knew would be made right by God in the end. That's Faith. Knowing that God is worthy of trust because He has proven it to countless others before, and so if He done it for them, He'll do it for us because "for there is no respect of persons with God."
You sound exactly like the knight of infinite resignation. Have fun with that.
If you give up all logic and reason, you could become an extremist? I'd venture that extremism is a route that even logical and rational people can be lead on to. If you rely only on logic without any faith you could conclude that humanity needs to be eliminated.
So the knight of faith does nothing, but wait for God to intervene on his behalf???
that's not like that
It's literally in the definition that they can act INDEPENDENT of the world.
the people of gaza have this kind of faith to god
This is le suicide de la raison. Really absurd.
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Believing something which is apparently false because one would prefer that it were true is wishful thinking. It's a pernicious cognitive bias that's difficult to avoid even if one isn't part of a subculture that exalts it as the highest human virtue. Faith is indeed dangerous for all the reasons John mentioned, and IMHO a sense of epistemic responsibility is incomparably more praiseworthy.
God is not false. The disbelief in God leading to a Western society in America that rejects reality harder. You cannot deny this. The New Secular America rejects reality more than the more religious America.
When asking "What is a Woman" becomes a Politically charged question. When an Observable reality everyone can see is now politically charged, You cannot claim to hold an idea being in reality anymore
So did Kierkegaard's fiancee think he was a spineless bastard or a knight of faith? Too bad he didn't man up and marry the woman and have faith it would work out in the end.
Merica 🇺🇸 Country of knights of faith plus their evangelical knights of faith around the world. Greatest pyramid scheme ever.
For a modern, western viewpoint replace "God" with politicians
Yeah, I've seen people who believe in politics act like fanatics about their faith in politics. It's scary and depressing.
Nah lol. You can prove a person exists and we have faith insofar as how we have faith the internet works. Totally different nuance, no matter how you want to hide anti-western sentiment as intellectualism
Wrong. It doesn't work. Politicians and such people were a thing for Soren Kierkegaard. If anything not only are you speaking Babels.
It ends up proving Soren Kierkegaard how Utterly important it is to have this belief in God. For removing it, people will look for anything with Meaning.
Heck. The Rise of Anti human Environmentalism is part of this.
Hi
The Knight who took the blue pill --> Kierkegaard
Blue Pilled Knight
Listening to kirkegards definition of the knight of faith sounded like listening to an atheist on Reddit. Strange how that works sometimes 😂.
What do you mean?
@@atharvakgb i mean that him describing the ideal religiose person as immune to reason and believes in their religion for no reason other that blind faith, is exactly the way that angry atheist describe them, i. Just thought that that was funny.
Camus' approach to the Absurd seems way less problematic while leaving the necessity of God's existence out of the equation. Occam's Razor slits Kierkegaard's throat. Get rekt, Danish boy.
Occams razor is so retarted
“Theism is quite simple” - Richard Swinburne
It doesn't..If anything Camus is less Effective.