The Future of Masterpiece Transformers

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2024

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  • @Roboshi2007
    @Roboshi2007 Рік тому +29

    considering how most mass-shifting bots work, the robot mode usually takes priority when it comes to scale. however we have mostly seen the most extreme example so far (megatron, soundwave, etc)

  • @forbiddenspatula4243
    @forbiddenspatula4243 Рік тому +11

    I think something important to keep in mind when guessing which MP is next, is thinking about who can be repainted and retooled the easiest. Seekers, Prime, Soundwave, Primal, Arcee, are all popular and easy repaints/retools. With that in mind you can repaint Astrotrain twice, so hes got the best shot of being the first triple changer.

  • @bpo1975
    @bpo1975 Рік тому +47

    No Galvatron, no Cyclonus, no Scourge. But thank God we have at least 2 versions of wimpy little Bumblebee.

    • @Roboshi2007
      @Roboshi2007 Рік тому +9

      I dunno if you noticed, but I think the name bumblebee sells pretty well in their eyes

    • @JP-qb3ny
      @JP-qb3ny Рік тому +3

      We can all thank Bayformers for all the love Bumblebee gets…..

    • @jasonparis5635
      @jasonparis5635 Рік тому +3

      Don't forget that the first masterpiece Megatron was a disaster but the second version was good I don't collect the masterpiece transformers because it is very expensive

    • @kevinp.h157
      @kevinp.h157 Рік тому

      no devastator neither

    • @Top_Galer
      @Top_Galer Рік тому +2

      The G1 movie and S3 don't sell as well in Japan

  • @OptimusPhillip
    @OptimusPhillip Рік тому +27

    I don't know if this is particularly likely, but I think Masterpiece would do well to expand into other generations. The G1 cast is wearing thin, and there are tons of adult fans now who are nostalgic for the 21st century Transformers series. Give us Masterpiece Unicron Trilogy, Masterpiece Transformers: Prime, hell, there's probably a market for some Masterpiece Car Robots characters.

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Рік тому +5

      They've already done MP Beast Wars, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

    • @alexcurrie4514
      @alexcurrie4514 Рік тому +4

      Oh that is brilliant. It'd work too. I'd pay out the nose for a Masterpiece Armada Starscream and so would plenty of others.

    • @shawndashno6022
      @shawndashno6022 Рік тому +5

      My wallet is SO ready for TF Prime masterpiece releases. Yes please!! Leave Arcee at voyager scale or smaller though, so we can have something close to scale for her, just for once.

    • @medafan53
      @medafan53 Рік тому +5

      If memory serves Armada, Cybertron and RID Prime were part of the same vote that ultimately birthed Star Saber's masterpiece, so they are probably willing to make them, since Legacy are doing Armada now, and we all know Shadowstriker is an RID Side Burn pretool, it would not surprise me if in a few years they may start looking in that direction.

    • @sanctumscream372
      @sanctumscream372 Рік тому +2

      Bro I'd be doing cartwheels if we started getting masterpiece UT or Prime. A lot of Armada characters could use proper toys that aren't barely posable, gimmick-loaded nonsense. Scavenger and Sideways would both be at the top of my list there.

  • @DevDoesDigimon
    @DevDoesDigimon Рік тому +4

    After Devastator, the most likely Gattai would probably be Predaking, since he's a kind of bridge between Devastator-style (Dedicated arms and legs) and Scramble City style (swappable limbs. Predaking's arms could swap around, as well as his legs, but his arms couldn't become legs, or vice-versa), making engineering him much easier, and maybe helping them figure out the engineering for the Scramble City combiners. As for other MPs I'd love to see a Masterpiece Chromedome at some point.

  • @XenotHedgehog
    @XenotHedgehog Рік тому +7

    Re: the transformations being too convoluted to be fun, I would argue that's not the purpose of the Masterpiece line. The Masterpiece line's job is first and foremost to be the single most accurate representation of the character in both robot mode and alternate mode, but they really aren't meant for extended wear and tear. They're more meant as display pieces. I don't know about anyone else, but my Masterpiece Cheetor's arm guard actually broke off of its hinge because I transformed it one too many times, and I imagine the hinge that hold's Dinobot's waist together probably won't last with too many repeated transformations either. As toys, they aren't great, but as collector's items and display pieces that can be put in whatever form and pose you want to show them in, they're perfect. If you want fun, there are plenty of cheaper options in the main line that can be transformed with relative ease. You mentioned in an earlier video that one of the reasons main line figures are getting more expensive is because collectors demand that they have the same level of articulation as a masterpiece figure, and I don't think you're wrong about that. The purpose of the main line is to be played with, and having the level of articulation one would expect from a display piece is unnecessary for that. I don't even use most of the articulation that my figures have; I just store them in their alternate modes most of the time so that they don't wear out before I have the complete cast.

  • @Alexisilver
    @Alexisilver Рік тому +8

    The trainbots really stalled out Masterpiece releases, the scooping up six new molds worth of time and engineering.
    Now that they're pretty much done I'll be happy to see the return of cars and various repaints of those same cars.

  • @TECHTIMESOfficialChannel
    @TECHTIMESOfficialChannel Рік тому +8

    Takara is mostly going for bots that they can remold or repaint. If you think about it, there are just a few standalone MP molds released. That's why I'm mostly excited for the Rhinox, since they'd really have to dig deep to find a reuse for that mold.

    • @ShadowPrime69
      @ShadowPrime69 Рік тому +1

      They could repaint it into the silver and green colour scheme from when he was made into a predacon

    • @TECHTIMESOfficialChannel
      @TECHTIMESOfficialChannel Рік тому +1

      @@ShadowPrime69 They could. And it would be up to the die-hard HasTak fandom's dollar vote on whether they'd tolerate another decade of that BS, or not.

  • @samurexatlas7373
    @samurexatlas7373 Рік тому +8

    I feel like, for Gattai, after Devastator might be Arielbots or, given enough time passed, Menasor.
    Both have a larger core bot, and the Scramble City shouldn't be too bad, Motormaster becomes most the limbs, Arielbots probably share limbs engineering so figure 1, figure 4.

  • @soulcraft_84
    @soulcraft_84 Рік тому +1

    I hope they are serious about a reissue of Hound with fixed parts, but it sounded like it was more so just a request from the person asking them questions. They probably will V2 a Soundwave at some point.

  • @mrheroprimes
    @mrheroprimes Рік тому +9

    You know wouldn't surprise me if once all the Masterpiece train bots are released. I could see Takara doing a reissued box set that strips out all the clear plastic, That goes from far more anime accurate look to the pain jobs.

  • @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
    @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Рік тому +8

    From what I’ve seen of Skids, Jetfire, Trailbreaker, and Hoist, it seems like MP is trying to get back to where it was. Unfortunately, what I’ve seen out of the Trainbots has been cluttered and so brittle they make SS86 Jazz and ER Datsuns look like they’re made of the most durable materials on Earth. It’s as if there’s a fight within Takara between those who can make show-accurate, durable AND fun MPs and those who say they can but crap out things like MP-44, MP-46, and Hound instead of following through on their word.
    TL;DR: More like Skids/Reboost/Burn Out and less like Hound and Lio Convoy.

    • @allenusison3124
      @allenusison3124 Рік тому

      ER Datsun? Which figure, specifically?

    • @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
      @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Рік тому

      All of them except for the recently revealed Buzzworthy Prowl

    • @allenusison3124
      @allenusison3124 Рік тому

      @@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Any other toys, specifically? I know nothing about ER Datsun.

    • @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
      @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Рік тому

      ER Smokescreen, ER Prowl, ER Bluestreak, ER Barricade, and Buzzworthy Silverstreak. All of them have extremely fragile shins made of clear plastic that break down over time.
      I’ve heard horror stories about SS86 Jazz’s roof similarly shattering, but it seems like that they fixed that for the Legacy Knock Out retool.

    • @Trebleshot
      @Trebleshot Рік тому +1

      ​​​@@EternityKingdomsHeadHonchoIt's annoying that SS86 Jazz has that flaw, but it's also oddly G1 accurate 😂

  • @awesomeguy9513
    @awesomeguy9513 Рік тому +5

    For combiners they gotta step up their game those train bots aren’t the best and the combiner looks clunky and isn’t very tall for being a 6 bot combiner, also some reports of clear plastic issues which isn’t the best especially with a lot of those panels being clear. If they wanna do a menasor, superion, Bruticus, etc they gotta amp up their game cause there’s a lot of 3P combiners some are solid figure. The easier one probably menasor cause you could probably get away with doing something similar to the legacy one
    As for G1 it’s a matter of time and while I do love me a good triple changer but it will be rough for Takara to do without it being expensive, headmasters could be cool those would be quick and easy then target masts if they do 86 MPs a reissue with the target master could be possible
    Something I hope pick up is the beast wars MPs cause that’s lacking especially on the predacon side. It could be a good buffer to stall out G1 doing the S1 cast, heck maybe reissue a few of the older ones like primal or dinobot. I do hope we see transmetals, rampage, and depth charge in legacy cause MP versions if they happen ar years aw

  • @mattr75
    @mattr75 Рік тому +2

    I would love a G2 Laser Optimus MP figure so we can get a proper Scourge. That, and an MP Waspinator

  • @DrN0G00d
    @DrN0G00d Рік тому +1

    I want to see Masterpiece Megatron that turns into a tank, that way everyone gets him.

  • @larrychilders6599
    @larrychilders6599 Рік тому +1

    17:20 after Devy it could be Predaking since he is a 6 piece Iirc

    • @rolonegative3334
      @rolonegative3334 Рік тому

      MP Predaking sounds dope! Release it before the remaining Dinobots and make our heads explode!

    • @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
      @EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Рік тому

      I hate to “erm, ackshually” you, but it’s Divebomb, not Wingspan. Can see why you’d think that since they’re both Decepticon birds, though.

  • @treebotreviews
    @treebotreviews Рік тому

    We’ve seen the leaked cliffjumper. I assumed that it was a Porsche problem. Which makes me wonder if there’s a jazz in the works.

  • @dylancrossman8502
    @dylancrossman8502 Рік тому

    Even as someone who hasn’t bought an MP in ages, Jazz and Cliffjumper are long overdue.

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 Рік тому

    I think it’s funny that you pointed out the Omnibots so soon after X-Transbots revealed their MP style Overdrive

  • @moltenamber85
    @moltenamber85 Рік тому +1

    They’ve only really touched the first season of Beast Wars. Fuzors, Transmetals and Transmetal 2s are all holes in that cast of characters.

  • @R0-83-RT
    @R0-83-RT Рік тому +2

    I feel Springer would be a pretty easy triple changer to do considering how similar his car and helicopter modes are.

    • @EmeralBookwise
      @EmeralBookwise Рік тому +1

      Yeah, and I also don't think triple changers are nearly the Pandora's box he makes them out to be. Springer was a star of the movie and third season, while both Astrotrain and Blitzwing were prominent in the second season, but the rest were never all that important outside a single episode or two.

  • @Roboshi2007
    @Roboshi2007 Рік тому +11

    considering the fact MP is all about cartoon accuracy, I don't think they'd do the scramble city style and they'd probably just do the configuration that people are the most used to.

    • @OptimusPhillip
      @OptimusPhillip Рік тому +4

      I can see an argument being made that the Scramble City style of combination _is_ cartoon accurate, because of the _Scramble City: Mobilization_ OVA, which was actually the debut of the Special Teams in JG1 continuity

    • @Roboshi2007
      @Roboshi2007 Рік тому

      @@OptimusPhillip yeah I do often forget about that OVA, but at the same time would they want to be accurate to one ova or an entire series. Sure they'll make a little accessory to reference one episode, but increase the complexity of their entire MP sub-line?

    • @EmeralBookwise
      @EmeralBookwise Рік тому

      I think it depends on the team. I mean, if you look at the Aerialbots, for example, the limbs all had nearly identical transformations and robot modes, meaning it would probably be cheaper to use the same engineering for each and likewise retain the scramble function. The only reason to do Superion with a fixed configuration would be if the fists and feet were going to be integrated into the limbs.

    • @Roboshi2007
      @Roboshi2007 Рік тому

      @@EmeralBookwise I guess it also depends on if they want to do and "all in one" or partforming design which scramble city did need

  • @wyldefyr4116
    @wyldefyr4116 Рік тому +2

    could always take the 'show accurate' approach with the scramble city combiners. it worked well with legacy menasor.

    • @EmeralBookwise
      @EmeralBookwise Рік тому

      Debatably. Although considering that approach is basically just Motormaster with cars stuck on his arms and legs, there really shouldn't have been much engineering limitations preventing scramble as an option either. Ditto for the Aerialbots, since the limbs all had nearly identical transformations.
      It really only the Combaticons and Protectabots that would majorly benefit from having dedicated limb configurations.

  • @KOAHUNT3R
    @KOAHUNT3R Рік тому +1

    My body is ready for more MP Beast Wars. Gimme Rhinox!!!

  • @johngolles342
    @johngolles342 Рік тому +1

    When are we going to get masterpiece reflector

  • @PrincessMatrix
    @PrincessMatrix Рік тому +2

    I don't think MP's well is ever going to dry anytime soon. Primarily due to the the last few years offering some disappointing releases, such as Bumblebee 2.0 and Arcee, the incredibly overpriced Convoy 3.0 and Seeker trio, the halfbaked Trailbreaker that looks nothing like his cartoon iteration so he could be retooled into Hoist, and the QC riddled Tigatron and Hound.
    While Skids and Skyfire managed to raise the bar for MP once again, there is tons of room to re-make older figures.

  • @dukespino4990
    @dukespino4990 Рік тому +1

    Yknow, if they did an mpg poseidon, they might be able to make a really good combiner.
    You know why?
    They wouldn't have to make them transform!
    Of course, in the cartoon they didn't transform except combining or guns, so for a hypothetical cartoon accurate king poseidon, none would get robot modes!
    Of course, I do think they would transform if only to get the king neptune repaints, but it's certainly something to muse upon
    I could see them doing insecticons like skids, at a reasonable price point so people could army build, and then do the repaints and deluxe insecticons to get their money's worth

  • @thecontroller9779
    @thecontroller9779 Рік тому +1

    Can we please just have a masterpiece Galvatron, Scourge, and Cyclonus?

  • @Trebleshot
    @Trebleshot Рік тому

    I agree the next Gattai release group will be Devastator. But I also don't think the Scamble City teams would be too difficult. Third Party release have shown they can be done. The beauty of the classic teams were how similarly designed their limbs were to each other (alt mode kibble aside). And as others have said, the robot modes would be the priority so vehicle mode scale wouldn't be an issue.

  • @RileyZilla1001
    @RileyZilla1001 Рік тому +3

    MP? Where is Jazz?

    • @AS42100
      @AS42100 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, Masterpiece Jazz is long overdue.

  • @claygray303
    @claygray303 Рік тому +1

    Where is your thoughts and review for haslab victory saber?

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 Рік тому

    19:20 I would say the Headmasters count as major G1 characters

  • @EltonPCorrea
    @EltonPCorrea Рік тому

    A masterpiece ginrai would be amazing. Expensive af, but amazing. And it's Convoy, it will sell well in other parts of the world.

  • @otaking3582
    @otaking3582 Рік тому

    I'm guessing that they're gonna do Raiden's Decepticon counterpart, Devastator, next.

  • @allenusison3124
    @allenusison3124 Рік тому +1

    With Raiden done and dusted, I'm expecting them to make Road Caesar.

  • @skybite
    @skybite Рік тому

    Masterpiece Combaticons, considering that Takaratomy seems to play favorite with the Combaticons. I got a feeling they will be cartoon accurate which I don’t prefer.

  • @Lgnabs
    @Lgnabs Рік тому

    So you think we can get liokiaser? Because of it not having scramble city???

  • @TenNoMichiyoIki
    @TenNoMichiyoIki Рік тому

    I'd like to make the argument "If 3P could do it, why not HasTak?" but they're just different companies with vastly different production values.

  • @aidanfriedfeld8889
    @aidanfriedfeld8889 Рік тому +1

    Third party has been doing a solid job on combiners for a bit now ever since toyworld devy. And combiners have been less ugly and more solid than the takara train bots for years and years now. Holy shit that takara raiden set is ugly as sin.

  • @Ranma_Leopard
    @Ranma_Leopard Рік тому +1

    Very enjoyable video

  • @justinterry8894
    @justinterry8894 Рік тому +1

    Masterpiece bumper or holomus maximus.

  • @theStridingRebel
    @theStridingRebel Рік тому +1

    I'm just hoping that they announce a Masterpiece version of Unicron's Heralds, Galvatron Cyclonus and Scourge

    • @EmeralBookwise
      @EmeralBookwise Рік тому

      Kind crazy we don't already have Galvatron.

    • @theStridingRebel
      @theStridingRebel Рік тому

      @@EmeralBookwise apparently they aren't that popular in Japan, which could be why we haven't seen them yet since masterpiece is mainly done by Takara

  • @NerdRahtio
    @NerdRahtio Рік тому +2

    given the rising prices and the improved quality on Hasbro’s end, I think it’s time for Masterpiece to go away. The few I have been interested in, mostly beast wars, have been so darn expensive the rise in cost didn’t have an equivalent rise in quality.

    • @MrKickdoh
      @MrKickdoh Рік тому

      Umm...I get the point you're trying to make but mainline's best effort (SS Hot Rod & SS Grimlock) are still a mighty long ways away from MP. There's definitely still room for MP and MP-scale. In my opinion.

    • @NerdRahtio
      @NerdRahtio Рік тому

      @@MrKickdoh I get that MP is better, I just don't they are better enough to justify how much cost difference there is. Whatever my feelings are, if they keep selling, they will keep making them.

    • @MrKickdoh
      @MrKickdoh Рік тому

      ​@@NerdRahtio
      I see....the "value" argument. That's definitely a fair point to argue. MP has ALWAYS been overpriced and we know it.Those of us who have been MP collecting since the domestic (USA)/Hasbro MP releases know how cheaply these things can be sold.
      If you didn't know, in those days Hasbro would import and SEVERELY undercut Takara's price on the exact same figure... with minor paint app changes. Saving the (western) customer the cost of importing and actually passing the savings on to the customer, unheard of these days. Sorry for the long response but yeah, we understand no value is offered to us the MP collector.

  • @swiftsteve8774
    @swiftsteve8774 Рік тому +1

    The Trainbot look so inferior to the Moon Studio version.

  • @HeckholeHotel
    @HeckholeHotel Рік тому

    When it comes to the scramble city teams I think I'd be okay with the limb changing gimmick being left out in favour of much simpler designed bots construction-wise who only have to form one dedicated limb

  • @glxblrt
    @glxblrt Рік тому

    Porsche-licence would make Masterpiece Crasher possible as well

  • @TransformersFan86
    @TransformersFan86 Рік тому

    What about movie characters?

  • @matthewtalbot7854
    @matthewtalbot7854 Рік тому

    The only way i will ever buy a transformers masterpiece is if it actually got sold in stores. Thats the only way i can buy them

  • @MrKickdoh
    @MrKickdoh Рік тому

    I get the sense that most here are "Takara-only" and I respect it (that was once me) but point of all of this is mute. Its 3rd party for the win. Those of you that've handled FT Jive, tell me, do you really need MP Jazz?

  • @vxrdrummer
    @vxrdrummer Рік тому

    Most 3p companies have already nailed all the characters. The new Cliffjumper looks awful with the spoiler in robot mode, unless it's mistransformed, then the Fans Toys is a million times better.

  • @jamesmcdavid1673
    @jamesmcdavid1673 Рік тому

    TJ thinks he's out of Patreon subs. Rattle em, boys!

  • @RileyZilla1001
    @RileyZilla1001 Рік тому

    All MP dinobots should just be the Studio Series ones but with better joints. You may think the SS Dinobots are good but my knee ratchet on Slug snapped which prevented me from buying the rest of them.

    • @EmeralBookwise
      @EmeralBookwise Рік тому

      Honestly, studio series has been making Masterpiece look increasingly redundant.

    • @MrKickdoh
      @MrKickdoh Рік тому

      ​@@EmeralBookwiseMP is as far beyond SS as SS is beyond mainline. Hold SS 86 Starscream in one hand and MP-52 in the other and tell me...redundant???

  • @elizabethfranklin7788
    @elizabethfranklin7788 Рік тому

    Honestly I’m not all that shocked at Galvatron. For a long time it’s always felt like Megatron is way more important and overall rather than Galvatron. I could almost see them doing a Masterpiece Star Convoy and Super Megatron to finish off the G1 big names and never end up doing Galvatron.

  • @etonymous1632
    @etonymous1632 Рік тому +2

    When is the next plastic addict?😂

  • @seanmoore6504
    @seanmoore6504 Рік тому

    If I see a dead on offering by another company then these feet dragging offerings then Hasbro/TT misses out. I don't want or need their versions of Jazz or Cliffjumper now. They waited way too long and now I have amazing versions in Fanstoys Jive and Parkour with diecast and beautiful paint.

    • @MrKickdoh
      @MrKickdoh Рік тому +1

      This thread don't hear you. My season 1-2 MP collection is almost finished thanks mainly to Fans Toys. Building GIANT battle scene diorama using ALL my figures when collection is done, so close. Fans Toys for the win!!!

  • @ianroe1076
    @ianroe1076 Рік тому +1

    I think MP is just too complex, too expensive, and too low quality to continue to exist as it does. If they're concerned about sales, they should give the same QC attention to their $300 releases as they do to their $20 releases.

  • @epaitech
    @epaitech Рік тому

    loose the scramble city functionality and give us a good combiner.

  • @noahasencio8589
    @noahasencio8589 Рік тому

    Hi 👋

  • @knot3d_
    @knot3d_ Рік тому

    I think you underestimate Japan Masterforce / Victory fanbase.