Waltham Pocket Watch brought back to life. Many problems found in the process.
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2022
- I bought this waltham pocket watch at auction without much knowledge about it's condition. I find one problem after another. I'm able to fix most of them in this video but I need your help to determine my next course of action with this watch. Watch as I bring this old Franken-Watch back to life.
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I really appreciate the quality of your videos, both the videography and the thoughtful audio. Thank you for providing multiple camera views with exceptionally clear focus even on the close up shots! I find that I can focus on the learning aspects of your videos without being distracted by any video issues. That is a testament to your attention to detail while developing your channel and editing your videos. A huge "thank you" from this subscriber who is enjoying the journey with you.
Wow, what a great comment! Thank you so much for that. Sometimes I think people forget how much time and effort goes into making these videos. It’s so nice to hear that all the work is appreciated.
Thanks so much for watching!!!
Great video thanks, I have a long list of watchmaking tools that I would love to own including a good canon pinion remover and a mainspring winding set.
Those are also on my list. I think I'm going to start buying the Bergeon Mainspring Winders one at a time as I need them, but I sure would like to have the entire set in a nice box! It's just out of my budget at this point in time. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Don't cut up the case. It's lasted this long, it deserves to stay original.
I'll take that under advisement! I actually leaning that way also. Please check back to see what I decided to do!!
Maybe its a Railway Watch so the case would not have the access slot for the setting leaver, the front has to be unscrewed to gain access to the leaver, it was I understand done that way to stop accidental time changes. If so you will need to find the setting lever parts, the backplate looks like it was cut to take a lever as well, try finding the setting lever parts first.
Thanks for the great info!! I've sourced the setting lever parts and I'm ready to proceed. I hope you check back and see what I decided to do.
Another enjoyable video. Thanks for taking the time. As others have said, I’m at a similar learning stage as you. It’s nice to see how others work through similar issues. Working on a practice Seagull ST36 now and soon will attempt my first balance staff replacement on a friends Seth Thomas. Look forward to more of your videos.
Good luck with the balance staff! I hope all goes well. I'm building up to trying it also. It's one of the jobs that has me spooked!
Thanks fir the video! About to do this same movement myself.
You can do it!
Really enjoying your videos I’m also learning. I would try and keep the watch as original as possible. Could you do a video on ordering parts what you need to know to order different parts such as the jewels etc that you needed to order for this watch.
Great Suggestions! I hope you watch my new video premiering tomorrow, I show how I measured for the replacement jewels and how/where I ordered them.
Great vid thanks I have seen a few of thos problems. I had the oversize spring problem lately and a brass roller jewel!
Thank you to share like a good professor!!
Always welcome!! Thanks so much for watching!
Great video, you are showing up the often found problem of frankenwatches. By the way, the central, removable part of the crown wheel is called the "core". Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the info!
get the parts, complete the movement and modify the case. That's my suggestion. Well done!!!
Jim, thanks for the great comments. That is great information about the "Core"! Now I know. Thanks!!
dont be shy about how much you payed, i buy watches too and its nice to know what others pay subbed and liked
what a satisfyingly outcome good video
Glad you enjoyed it, you are right....It was very satisfying. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Well done 🙂
Thanks for watching and for the nice comment!
It looks like whoever tried this watch before you installed the pallet fork upside down. I accidentally did the same thing once, but fixed it straight away. The banking pin gives it away.
Yes, that's a great catch!! Thanks for watching and for the great comment!
Thoroughly enjoying your videos! Thank you! Could you tell me please about the wooden chest with drawers on the left?
That is a vintage Gerstner and Son’s machinists tool chest. I love it! It was made in the 1960’s. They are made exceptionally well. Absolute heirloom quality workmanship! You can find them on eBay but the company is still in business today in Dayton, Ohio and you can still buy them new! Just sit down before you look at the price. 😃 They are expensive but they really are worth the price.
I'm on the same journey as you and am looking forward to your review of the Chinese Horia clone. I think movements are more common than cases so I would be hesitant modifying the case.
Hi Will, I will be premiering the Horia Review Tomorrow. I hope you like it. Thanks for the input!!
My second visit made in 1941 premier lever set not of railroad grade . It is much like the Vanguard 23 jewel made same year .
Hi Tony, thanks for watching. Great Information!
I didn't see you put the main spring in the barrel was it a self insert or do you have a winder.
eek, at 7:58 the escape wheel looks like it is jammed into the pallete fork under spring tension- best to depower the mainspring before attempting to remove that fork.
Well, sometimes I look back at these older videos and just shake my head. I feel like I've gotten better over the past year. To be fair, I don't think there was any power left in the mainspring when I started the disassembly. The lower pallet jewel was broken and holding on to the pivot of the pallet fork. Thanks for watching.
Yup, agreed, the broken jewel was the culprit for sure. You got it right, and posted a very educational video. Thanks!!@@watchasilearn
Mark, remember me and my little contribution to you?
Yes, of course! How are things going with school? You can email me if you want at watchasilearn@hotmail.com.
If you're going to place the balance into the cleaning machine you should not put other large parts in the same section with it where they could get tossed into each other while spinning. Also, I pre clean my parts in 99% alcohol by hand with a brush, excluding the pallet fork and balance as they are soaked in Hexane to prevent damaging the shellac. Then I clean them all in the watch cleaning machine. I use L&R cleaner which isn't cheap so pre cleaning the parts helps the solution last longer and i'm certain that the parts are absolutely clean.
Hi Tim! Thanks so much for watching and leaving that great comment. All your tips are much appreciated!!
save the case keep the movement for another case you may get
Subbed! Thanks for this. Your video shows you have both a watch cleaning machine and an ultrasonic cleaner. Is the ‘spin’ type watch cleaning machine better for watch parts? Is there any reason to prefer one machine over the other?
Hi Robert. I'm not sure the spin type cleaner is "better" but it certainly is more convenient. Before I got that machine I used to clean the watch parts in the ultrasonic and it worked fine. So if you've got an ultrasonic cleaner you are good to go!!
Well this video is a year old so You must have finished by now . I would modify the case for the lever set . As I once did for a Vanguard .
Hi Tony, thanks for watching. Yes, I actually bought a lever set case and installed this movement into it with the addition of some needed parts. But I see you’ve found that video based on the comment you left there. I appreciate your input and support . Thanks again for watching!!
Enjoying your videos. Kudos. What video equipment are you using, if you don't mind me asking?
Regarding the watch case: ideally, you'll find something more authentic. That case looks to me like it's 1970s, but that's just a guess. It doesn't seem particularly valuable or of historical value in the context of a Waltham watch. Maybe it's got some bicentennial collectable value. I doubt it, but who knows? Maybe Jimmy Carter gave it to Elvis or something. But in lieu of sourcing a case that actually goes with the movement, I don't think it'd be a travesty to mod the case. In fact, as the watch has been cobbled together already, it has a certain charm. I'm sure others with a more punctilious sensibility than mine could disagree.
Hey thanks for the comment! As far as my video equipment I'm currently using a Sony A6000 for my main overhead camera and my iPhone for the close up shots. I hope to be upgrading all of that in the future but for right now I'm working with what I got.
I would go with findinv a better movement for the watch
Great! Thanks for the input. I'll let you know what I decide soon.
how did you do the mainsping please
Hi Alan, Since that video was getting long I did not show how I placed the mainspring into the barrel. However, I do have other videos that show the process. One of them is called "$10 Garage Sale Watch.....Surprise found inside!" At about the 20 minute mark in the video I show how to use my vintage mainspring winder. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
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thank you so much@@watchasilearn
Yikes, you put the barrel in with the balance to get washed. Couldn’t that damage the balance with that heavy metal smashing around?
Just asking.
Yes, that is a big no-no! Good job spotting that! I’ve learned so much since making that video. I cringe at my stupidity!! But, on the bright side, the balance staff was already broken on that movement and you’ll notice that I replaced it after cleaning it so there was no real damage done.
Thanks for watching and for the comment!
You've probably dated me several times
Interesting video but please don't "drink thge Kool-aid". `Despite years of research and comparison there is no body of information that supports the idea that anything beyond 11 jewels contributes in any meaningful way to watch performance. In fact there are knowledgeable folks who draw the line at Seven jewels. There are a number of modern watches which have far in excess of 20 or 30 jewels, which allows the owner little more than "bragging rights". Just sayin.......
Hi Bruce, thanks for watching and for the comment. I wasn't talking about jewel count in reference to the performance of a watch I was talking about the number of jewels affecting the quality of the restoration or repair of a 100 + year old pocket watch. As a beginner/hobbyist I would rather spend a few more dollars on a more highly jeweled movement than spend my efforts broaching out metal bearing holes and resizing pivots. Hope this helps to clarify my comments in the video. No "Kool-Aid drinking" going on here.
Who are these knowledgeable folks? I thought 7 jewel movements were notorious for destroying themselves.
@@Jake-bt3fc I'm guessing you may be mixing this item with its cylinder counterpart. Cylinder movements were indeed known for gradually "self-destructing" owing to the grinding pressures in the balance complete.
@@BruceWSims Google "7 jewel movement Enlarged plate holes" the pivots in the drivetrain grind the bushings until the watch binds and stops running. That's why they're jeweled on every single modern movement.
I don't think people realize either that Those tiny bottles of specialized oil cost around forty to fifty dollars each and you have to use four different types of oil. That's ridiculous
You could have cut this video down quite a bit shorter by not showing 30 minutes of you putting the parts in the little baskets and doing the cleaning machand about 10 seconds. I think we get the idea.