drill a 1/8" hole in the side of the oil wrench, install the wrench with the hole facing the oil fill, install a small sheet rock screw thru the drilled hole in to the oil filter. works every time. Just did my 4000 mile change yesterday, I think the folks at the factory over tighten it just to mess with us. good video by the way!
Robert on your next oil change get the bike ready then put it on the center stand remove the bellypan. Then all the drain plugs and transmission oil filter cover and engine oil filter. Now put the bike on the side stand and allow oil to drain as per Hondas requirements. This will give you extra room and satisfy honda. Good luck
Take a blue shop towel and lay across the filter wrench and FIRMLY push it up on the filter ..the extra friction and tighter fitment has saved me many times in this exact scenario.
When it comes time for your next oil change, I will give you the correct oil filter wrench, or loan you one. I think I might have an extra one. Mine is not graduated. Good video! I like that mesh idea!
Next time you do a oil filter, change to a K&N one, it has a welded 17mm nut on the end, makes life much easier. K&N oil filter are way better than anything else on the market, there is a video on UA-cam showing one being dismantled and how the filtration contents compare to other brands. Cost about the same... its a no brainer
This is slightly amusing, as 1 year later Cruiseman has a new bike, and a video showing his first oil change. The correct Honda cup style wrench didn’t work, and neither did the tricks with paper towels, sandpaper, etc. What did work was taking it to a dealer who had a snazzy cup style with a screw on the side, apparently sold through snap-on. My understanding, not having looked, is that the clearance between the thin oil pan casting and the filter is pretty close, leaving little room for other style wrenches or getting Neanderthal on it. Sometime discretion is the better part of valor - don’t be afraid to go to a dealer or other professional if you have to.
@@ST1300Jim totally agree. I did get this filter off the second go around with the Honda brand wrench cup. Fit like a glove and did the trick. I can’t believe how tight they put these first ones on, and maybe, as others have said, the simply don’t lube the gasket with a little oil beforehand. Thanks for watching and Ride Safe.
Just happened to me on my 5th oil change graduated filter wrench kept slipping bought one at local part store made for exact filter not multifilters filter with extra long sides for filter to grab worked like it supposed to .
Just saw this. Wingstuff sells the filter wrench with filter as a kit. Also, there is a smaller transmission filter o ring recommended by Fred Harmon on his oil change video. I also made a 2" wood block to stick under kickstand to check oil level easily. You've probably learned these tidbits by now but thought I'd chime in. God bless u 2! Happy, safe riding!
Thank you FreeRider, I like the wooden block idea, definitely using that! So many have reached out to help with this filter issue.. It is apparently very common. The most common response has been "get a better filter wrench"... I bought mine at walmart so I definitely will check into a wrench made specifically for the purpose. I appreciate you watching and commenting! Ride Safe.
I used a rubber strap wrench that I bought at Sears 100 years (😊) ago. I did one or two oil & filter changes myself, but wasn't feeling well after either my shoulder surgery or some other either medical issue, so took it to an independent mechanic who works from home in a detached garage. He put a Fram or some other filter on it, & none of my 5, 6, or 7 wrenches would fit, so I'm going to an automobile supply store for the correct wrench. In thinking about the issue, I might just go on the internet to find the correct one. Another thought popped into my head & that is, I believe I bought a whole oil change "kit" from Wing stuff, that included the wrench. Good luck sir. Oh. Nice video.
Great bike and great video, thank you. Like you I have the same difficulties with oil changes on my hi end scooter, a Kymco AK550. Hi end bikes, hi end issues, haha. As for the oil filter wrench you should be able to find the exact filter fitment on Amazon or at Honda, def worth the price. I have the same type wrench as you do. If you have the oil filter part number you should be able to find the appropriate wrench. No, one size fit most do not work.
Nice job, Robert. As you can see in your own video, you can loosen all bolts without the oil pan under, then you can slide it in. Oil will not come out. This will avoid the possibility of causing damage to the bolts. Same thing for the filter. The DCT filter is the only area you should have a pan or mini baking foil tray as you drop the filter cover. Also, I have the Wingstuff filter wrench and zero issues till today.
They sell stair grip tape at home depot if you cut a 1” strip you can stick it to the inside of the oil filter wrench.. that grippy sandpaper like finish will bite into the filter .. It should work for you
Nice video Robert. Are the Honda Goldwing crush washers directional? You may want to ask your neighbor with the Harley if you can barrow their torque wrench and oil filter tool ;) I too saw the Cruseman video. Good wake up call and and refresher getting back on the bike this spring in Denver. Stay safe!
Hey Kev, thank you for watching. I have a couple of torque wrenches, what I really needed was a filter cup that was not graduated and fit better. Ride Safe!
I had to take a large flathead screw driver and a hammer to take the filter off. Position the screwdriver on the side of the base of the filter and drive it off/ unscrew it with the hammer and screwdriver till it spins easy enough to spin it off the rest of the way by hand. You have to do this at the base because the outer filter shell will just tear and deform.
Adam thanks for the info… I’ve done the same thing in cars before. This video was some time ago and I just completed another oil change, this time with the Honda brand filter wrench and it worked like a charm 👍🏻. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Robert, there is a cast aluminum oil filter wrench that fits that size filter perfectly. That's the best answer. It's not a bad idea to use a filter with a socket wrench fitting on the top in the future. But I've twisted those tops right off with that approach so .... the cast aluminum wrench is the best IMHO.
Indeed the filter can be very stuck and that although I have taken the tightening torque as well as the lubrication of the oil filter seal ring into account. Honda offers a set containing oil filter and oil filter wrench (15010-MKR-305). In my case the wrench did not slip, but was afterwards kind of jammed with the filter. But it did not slip despite of a very strong loosening torque (way stronger than the initial tightening torque).
Get a ratcheting filter wrench. It has four points that tighten on the filter as you twist the wrench via a gear and track mechanism. I only use this for removal, but it's handy to have around, as it is universal fit.
Hi Robert. I'm David watching from Kingston, Ontario, Canada. I have a 2018 6 speed and had the same issue with removing the oil filter as you did using the existing wrenches I have used for years on my previous Wings. Honda part number 15010-MCE-H51 is what you need. It's an end cap type of wrench with lug on the end for a 17mm socket. It needs a slight modification though. As is, because of the tight fit at the engine casing, it won't slide up far enough to get a good grip on the filter. You need to use a bench grinder and grind down the lip around the bottom of the tool so you get enough clearance to slide the cap completely over the filter end. You don't need to take too much off. It's worked perfectly ever since. Another hint. Before starting the bike, when it's cold, slightly loosen the drain bolts and filter...reduces the chance of burning yourself on hot surfaces. You only need to use your fingers to remove the bolts and filter. Lesson learned from years of experience. Good luck. David
David welcome from Canada!! Great advice here. Not sure I'm up for grinding nor do I have a grinder. But I've received a lot of advice about the correct wrench to get. I think I won't have a problem next time. David I appreciate you watching and commenting !!
Hi Robert, over here in the uk we have our first service/oil change at 600 miles, had mine done last week at the dealers. Our next service is at 4000 miles. thanks for sharing.
I knew the the oil filter on my Gold Wing would be super tight. So, I was prepared with a 24" breaker bar (instead of a ratchet), and an exact fit oil filter cup wrench. Took the filter right off, no problems. Should never need a breaker bar to remove an oil filter though.
@@robertwhitemoto, yes the filter wrench is 1/2 the problem, the other 1/2 is how incredibly tight the filter is screwed on. Save the time and expense of a dealership visit - utilize an exact fit cup wrench, 24" breaker bar and put the bike on its center stand, to apply solid pressure on the breaker bar. It'll work. 🙂
Carl thank you for watching and commenting. It does have a center stand but Honda recommends changing the oil while on the side stand for complete draining… and my clearance was ok. A stuck filter was my issue 🙂
I seen Cruiseman's video last night. Not good, the bike may have hidden damage that needs to be addressed. I have an easy time with my oil changes as mine is a standard. Just one drain bolt, one filter and one jug of oil. I use a low profile plastic drain pan. It gives me more room when removing the drain and filter as I can put my hand down inside of it. I also do it on the center stand as it also gives more room under the bike. I change mine every 4k miles oil and filter. My filter socket is like yours but fits like a glove and is not tapered , it has never slipped on me at all.
Doug thank you for watching. I think I could get away with changing and checking the oil on the center stand, even though it's not recommended by Honda. I think the differences are minor. The real frustration this time was not being able to get that oil filter off. It was very tight and the cup wrench just kept sliding off as I turned it... almost like the filter was stripped on the outside. Ride Safe!
@@robertwhitemoto Yes I can well imagine when the oil is changed at the dealership it is sitting upright in a wheel clamp on a bike hoist. I have run into the same thing with poorly made filter wrenches like that before. If they don't fit perfect and start slipping you are done for. I have had to pretty much destroy a filter in the past as well on a pickup that was put on way too tight.
Back in 92 when I bought my ST1100, I took my bike in for an oil change. The next time I went to change the oil on my own, I found out the dealership left their filter wrench on the filter. I’ve been using that ever since. The Honda wrench is a great investment, get one and save some money. Plus doing it yourself makes you know that it’s been done right! 👍😊
drill a 1/8" hole in the side of the oil wrench, install the wrench with the hole facing the oil fill, install a small sheet rock screw thru the drilled hole in to the oil filter.
works every time. Just did my 4000 mile change yesterday, I think the folks at the factory over tighten it just to mess with us.
good video by the way!
Robert on your next oil change get the bike ready then put it on the center stand remove the bellypan. Then all the drain plugs and transmission oil filter cover and engine oil filter. Now put the bike on the side stand and allow oil to drain as per Hondas requirements. This will give you extra room and satisfy honda. Good luck
Rodney thanks for watching and commenting, that is a great idea !!
I was going to comment the same thing.
Take a blue shop towel and lay across the filter wrench and FIRMLY push it up on the filter ..the extra friction and tighter fitment has saved me many times in this exact scenario.
Awesome thank thank you James !!
That's a good hack.
I use a small piece of sandpaper. Double it up and place on the side of the filter while you push the filter wrench on. I doesn't take much.
When it comes time for your next oil change, I will give you the correct oil filter wrench, or loan you one. I think I might have an extra one. Mine is not graduated. Good video! I like that mesh idea!
Thank you CM! The dang thing just kept slipping off no matter what I did. Hope you’re doing ok!!
I asked about the 4k first service. I was told Honda breaks in the engine before it’s shipped. No idea if they were blowing smoke up my….
JK thanks for watching and commenting. It's inexpensive insurance.
Oh, I believe K&N makes one with a nut on it, which I think you can by from Chaparral motorcycle catalog.
Well done video Robert. I liked the mesh in the oil pan. That is a good idea. Ride safe out there and have fun.
Thank you once again GM for watching and commenting! Ride Safe.
Next time you do a oil filter, change to a K&N one, it has a welded 17mm nut on the end, makes life much easier.
K&N oil filter are way better than anything else on the market, there is a video on UA-cam showing one being dismantled and how the filtration contents compare to other brands. Cost about the same... its a no brainer
@@paineys3341 thank you !! 🙏🏻
This is slightly amusing, as 1 year later Cruiseman has a new bike, and a video showing his first oil change. The correct Honda cup style wrench didn’t work, and neither did the tricks with paper towels, sandpaper, etc. What did work was taking it to a dealer who had a snazzy cup style with a screw on the side, apparently sold through snap-on. My understanding, not having looked, is that the clearance between the thin oil pan casting and the filter is pretty close, leaving little room for other style wrenches or getting Neanderthal on it. Sometime discretion is the better part of valor - don’t be afraid to go to a dealer or other professional if you have to.
@@ST1300Jim totally agree. I did get this filter off the second go around with the Honda brand wrench cup. Fit like a glove and did the trick. I can’t believe how tight they put these first ones on, and maybe, as others have said, the simply don’t lube the gasket with a little oil beforehand. Thanks for watching and Ride Safe.
I cut 2 pieces of sand ,put them inside the same piece of crap filter wrench you have . And the filter came off on the 600 oil change.
@@NoWay-xu1ie I’ve heard that! Great idea.
Also short extension on ratchet with correct filter socket will be much easier for you.
Just happened to me on my 5th oil change graduated filter wrench kept slipping bought one at local part store made for exact filter not multifilters filter with extra long sides for filter to grab worked like it supposed to .
For my second change I used the Honda filter wrench and it worked like a charm ! Thank you for watching and commenting 🙏🏻
Just saw this. Wingstuff sells the filter wrench with filter as a kit. Also, there is a smaller transmission filter o ring recommended by Fred Harmon on his oil change video. I also made a 2" wood block to stick under kickstand to check oil level easily. You've probably learned these tidbits by now but thought I'd chime in. God bless u 2! Happy, safe riding!
Thank you FreeRider, I like the wooden block idea, definitely using that! So many have reached out to help with this filter issue.. It is apparently very common. The most common response has been "get a better filter wrench"... I bought mine at walmart so I definitely will check into a wrench made specifically for the purpose. I appreciate you watching and commenting! Ride Safe.
@@robertwhitemoto I wouldn't have considered Helibars until I watched your video. I just put them on and love them. Thanks! Riding season is here!
I used a rubber strap wrench that I bought at Sears 100 years (😊) ago. I did one or two oil & filter changes myself, but wasn't feeling well after either my shoulder surgery or some other either medical issue, so took it to an independent mechanic who works from home in a detached garage. He put a Fram or some other filter on it, & none of my 5, 6, or 7 wrenches would fit, so I'm going to an automobile supply store for the correct wrench. In thinking about the issue, I might just go on the internet to find the correct one. Another thought popped into my head & that is, I believe I bought a whole oil change "kit" from Wing stuff, that included the wrench. Good luck sir. Oh. Nice video.
Others have commented about the Wingstuff kit! I am going to look at all my options for next time! Thanks for watching and commenting!!
30 minute video for an oil change... Yupp, Goldwing rider 😅
Yeah that belly pan and combined with the learning curve of the first time… makes for a long-ish video! Ride Safe Kahuna!
Upright bike using side kickstand and a 2x4 wood
I’ve been told that 👍🏻
Wing stuff sells the whole kit including filter wrench.Good luck.
Thank you for watching BJ!
Great bike and great video, thank you. Like you I have the same difficulties with oil changes on my hi end scooter, a Kymco AK550. Hi end bikes, hi end issues, haha. As for the oil filter wrench you should be able to find the exact filter fitment on Amazon or at Honda, def worth the price.
I have the same type wrench as you do. If you have the oil filter part number you should be able to find the appropriate wrench. No, one size fit most do not work.
@@massimozanardi6457 agree ! I ordered the Honda brand and it worked like a charm !!
My AK550 filter was harder to get off without removing the plastic.
Nice video Robert, thanks for sharing
Thank you Michael!
Honda Goldwing oil filter wrench at Wingstuff..
Yes, that’s what I will do next time 👍🏻
I got the same one for half the cost at my local O'riely's Auto Parts using a new Honda Oil filter for exact sizing.@@robertwhitemoto
Nice job, Robert. As you can see in your own video, you can loosen all bolts without the oil pan under, then you can slide it in. Oil will not come out. This will avoid the possibility of causing damage to the bolts. Same thing for the filter. The DCT filter is the only area you should have a pan or mini baking foil tray as you drop the filter cover. Also, I have the Wingstuff filter wrench and zero issues till today.
I’m looking into that wrench! Thanks again Al for watching and commenting!
Nice job. I like the mesh idea. Thanks for the tip.
Thank you Brian!
They sell stair grip tape at home depot if you cut a 1” strip you can stick it to the inside of the oil filter wrench.. that grippy sandpaper like finish will bite into the filter ..
It should work for you
Nice video Robert. Are the Honda Goldwing crush washers directional? You may want to ask your neighbor with the Harley if you can barrow their torque wrench and oil filter tool ;) I too saw the Cruseman video. Good wake up call and and refresher getting back on the bike this spring in Denver. Stay safe!
Hey Kev, thank you for watching. I have a couple of torque wrenches, what I really needed was a filter cup that was not graduated and fit better. Ride Safe!
I had to take a large flathead screw driver and a hammer to take the filter off. Position the screwdriver on the side of the base of the filter and drive it off/ unscrew it with the hammer and screwdriver till it spins easy enough to spin it off the rest of the way by hand. You have to do this at the base because the outer filter shell will just tear and deform.
Adam thanks for the info… I’ve done the same thing in cars before. This video was some time ago and I just completed another oil change, this time with the Honda brand filter wrench and it worked like a charm 👍🏻. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Use mesh like that to keep mice out of air cleaner
Robert, there is a cast aluminum oil filter wrench that fits that size filter perfectly. That's the best answer. It's not a bad idea to use a filter with a socket wrench fitting on the top in the future. But I've twisted those tops right off with that approach so .... the cast aluminum wrench is the best IMHO.
Thanks Donald, just today I ordered what I think you are talking about from WingStuff. Can't wait to give oil change #2 a try. Merry Christmas.
Indeed the filter can be very stuck and that although I have taken the tightening torque as well as the lubrication of the oil filter seal ring into account.
Honda offers a set containing oil filter and oil filter wrench (15010-MKR-305). In my case the wrench did not slip, but was afterwards kind of jammed with the filter. But it did not slip despite of a very strong loosening torque (way stronger than the initial tightening torque).
I've since seen that kit and very well may buy in for the next oil change as I would much rather do it myself. thanks for watching and commenting !!
Not sure if maybe you missed it, but the recommended oil weight is 10w30 for the DCT model. Just a heads up.
Thanks for the heads up.
Get a ratcheting filter wrench. It has four points that tighten on the filter as you twist the wrench via a gear and track mechanism. I only use this for removal, but it's handy to have around, as it is universal fit.
Thanks Robert !!
Hi Robert. I'm David watching from Kingston, Ontario, Canada. I have a 2018 6 speed and had the same issue with removing the oil filter as you did using the existing wrenches I have used for years on my previous Wings. Honda part number 15010-MCE-H51 is what you need. It's an end cap type of wrench with lug on the end for a 17mm socket. It needs a slight modification though. As is, because of the tight fit at the engine casing, it won't slide up far enough to get a good grip on the filter. You need to use a bench grinder and grind down the lip around the bottom of the tool so you get enough clearance to slide the cap completely over the filter end. You don't need to take too much off. It's worked perfectly ever since. Another hint. Before starting the bike, when it's cold, slightly loosen the drain bolts and filter...reduces the chance of burning yourself on hot surfaces. You only need to use your fingers to remove the bolts and filter. Lesson learned from years of experience. Good luck. David
David welcome from Canada!! Great advice here. Not sure I'm up for grinding nor do I have a grinder. But I've received a lot of advice about the correct wrench to get. I think I won't have a problem next time. David I appreciate you watching and commenting !!
Hi Robert, over here in the uk we have our first service/oil change at 600 miles, had mine done last week at the dealers. Our next service is at 4000 miles. thanks for sharing.
Smart move! And I agree with every 4k miles !
Order the correct size wrench for the filter. Will come with one of the oil change kits from Wingstuff.
Thanks Karl, many have said the same thing! Will do. Thanks for watching.
Thanks Robert
I knew the the oil filter on my Gold Wing would be super tight. So, I was prepared with a 24" breaker bar (instead of a ratchet), and an exact fit oil filter cup wrench. Took the filter right off, no problems. Should never need a breaker bar to remove an oil filter though.
Yeah that fit of the oil filter wrench was/is my problem for sure. thanks for watching.
@@robertwhitemoto, yes the filter wrench is 1/2 the problem, the other 1/2 is how incredibly tight the filter is screwed on. Save the time and expense of a dealership visit - utilize an exact fit cup wrench, 24" breaker bar and put the bike on its center stand, to apply solid pressure on the breaker bar. It'll work. 🙂
The gold wing has a center stand I believe, that would give you some room to work. Nice video, thanks for sharing 👍🏽
Carl thank you for watching and commenting. It does have a center stand but Honda recommends changing the oil while on the side stand for complete draining… and my clearance was ok. A stuck filter was my issue 🙂
I seen Cruiseman's video last night. Not good, the bike may have hidden damage that needs to be addressed. I have an easy time with my oil changes as mine is a standard. Just one drain bolt, one filter and one jug of oil. I use a low profile plastic drain pan. It gives me more room when removing the drain and filter as I can put my hand down inside of it. I also do it on the center stand as it also gives more room under the bike. I change mine every 4k miles oil and filter. My filter socket is like yours but fits like a glove and is not tapered , it has never slipped on me at all.
Doug thank you for watching. I think I could get away with changing and checking the oil on the center stand, even though it's not recommended by Honda. I think the differences are minor. The real frustration this time was not being able to get that oil filter off. It was very tight and the cup wrench just kept sliding off as I turned it... almost like the filter was stripped on the outside. Ride Safe!
@@robertwhitemoto Yes I can well imagine when the oil is changed at the dealership it is sitting upright in a wheel clamp on a bike hoist. I have run into the same thing with poorly made filter wrenches like that before. If they don't fit perfect and start slipping you are done for. I have had to pretty much destroy a filter in the past as well on a pickup that was put on way too tight.
Honda sells a filter wrench with the filter. It would be a perfect fit and not slip. The filter is very tight on new bikes for some reason.
Back in 92 when I bought my ST1100, I took my bike in for an oil change. The next time I went to change the oil on my own, I found out the dealership left their filter wrench on the filter. I’ve been using that ever since. The Honda wrench is a great investment, get one and save some money. Plus doing it yourself makes you know that it’s been done right! 👍😊
Great advice on the oil change, thanks.
You are welcome! Thank you for watching.