@@Synerge360 kinda forced to buy it for the energy generators since it's required to play now. I also heard that people are reselling the energy generators pricier than the product itself now
As much as I hate this product, Im actually thankful for the existance of it. I was trying to teach one of my friends how to play, but he said it was too difficult with all the rules ontop of the effects. He asked if there was a vanilla deck set or something similar to going back to very OG format like "Normal summon Mystical Elf". The only thing I could say to that was "Boy do I have a product for you"
man, i really hate that bushi has made a product for beginners that basically forces them to chuck all but 1 card in the bin after learning the basics. these decks are so much more expensive than the initial start decks and at the same time so much worse in terms of starting the game and havinga playable deck... really disappointed in bushi for releasing this obvious cash grab...
Ya know, the fact that the EN one having Sleeve compare to the JP one is already a win in my book. It’s like you buy the deck box and sleeve with some extra vanilla cards, random PG and trigger as a bonus.
But the whole point of these decks is to get new players into the game , and when they spike up the prices by 4 times and don't Include any remotely usable cards for deck building , don't you think it defeats the whole purpose of a "start up" trial deck.
May i have recommendations which nation should i try?? If you are Yu-Gi-Oh player, my deck before is Lunalight and Salamangreat. Also i played Ritual Beast back then If you are not, my playstyle is aggro-control type of deck. Thanks before 🙏
Excuse me, I have a huge doubt, I'm returning to vanguard but I don't know how many cards I need to play, do I need 50 or 54? The ride deck has confused me a lot
They don’t. They’re going to reprint all the overtriggers in Fated Clash next month. Still weird why they couldn’t at least put Olbaria in these decks.
You need to get/pull them from upcoming booster box but tbf, you can still use the energy counter provided if you're that bothered enough to get the energy cards
Hi, returning player. Havent played since a year or so into V. Where is Granblue, what has happened and where can i make/buy a granblue deck. Super confused at what theyve done here
Hello! Welcome back! After 3 years into V they decided to have a penultimate reboot!(we really can’t afford another one 💀) Clans were basically condensed into 6 different nations so that way support for each can be consistent (no more waiting a year for your support) While there’s no more Granblue by name, there are some Granblue playstyle esque decks and esque aesthetic currently in the format, like this start deck’s cristianos(albeit with an Aqua force skin), and Zorga , who mixes his drop zone revival with orders (a new type of card that acts like a spell that can only be played once per turn) And if those aren’t your fancy, v and premium are also options to keep running Granblue in
@@kelliealanis9485 The Vanilla card issue. They sell the vanilla version card in this Starter deck. If u wan the same card have effect, u need to buy the Booster. No to mention the price in global version is higher because they include sleeve in the product.
@@kelliealanis9485 The Vanilla issue. U need to buy booster to get the same card with effect if u wan to build the deck. Not to mention it's more expenaive in global because they include the sleeve
a lolt of ppl hate this product lol i dont think they fully understand its just for baby's first card game and that bushi may make the energy generator available in other stuff theres no need for ppl to get as mad as they are about this product i think its a good product
Those so called babies are going to have to buy card singles just to be able to play the game properly because these Start decks give you vanilla units & cards that you have to put into the bin because of those numbered cards. These decks do not prepare you to play the game at all; you will easily get overwhelmed by all the effects & mechanics in an actual D format deck. In addition to that, these decks do not introduce the Ovetriggers or of the more difficult mechanics introduced in D format. None of the Dress mechanics, none of the Order mechanics, no Divine Skills, etc. And knowing they will have to dish at least $40-80 just to have a semi viable deck in the game, when they can play a cheaper game such as Digimon. The obvious option is they will play that or a more popular IP such as Pokemon/One Piece.
Yeah the baby first card game that cost u 20-25 Doller, and U can use the same money to buy 2 Yugioh Structure deck and build a decent deck to play. What a great business idea. TBH, If u let them get away this this kind of product, I can imaging the backlash future consumer will get.
The thing closest to a structure deck costs 50+ bucks or 44+ without any foils and you still need more pieces from other sets in this game. At least Pokemon did the Chien-Pao move back when it was metagame
Sleeves look good product is still ass. I hope we can just buy the energy generator at locals. Also i hope my cardshop sells the sleeves separately
Fr why would anyone buy this? Might as well build your own deck from scratch.
@@Synerge360 kinda forced to buy it for the energy generators since it's required to play now. I also heard that people are reselling the energy generators pricier than the product itself now
For teaching a friend or someone who wants to play but is confused easily with rules
Good thing I watched your video before buying you saved me big time
As much as I hate this product, Im actually thankful for the existance of it. I was trying to teach one of my friends how to play, but he said it was too difficult with all the rules ontop of the effects. He asked if there was a vanilla deck set or something similar to going back to very OG format like "Normal summon Mystical Elf". The only thing I could say to that was "Boy do I have a product for you"
You couldve always just played ignoring the effects like they do in the anime sometimes
It's difficult. You'll suddenly start calling effects that will confuse your opponent, because muscle memory experience
man, i really hate that bushi has made a product for beginners that basically forces them to chuck all but 1 card in the bin after learning the basics. these decks are so much more expensive than the initial start decks and at the same time so much worse in terms of starting the game and havinga playable deck... really disappointed in bushi for releasing this obvious cash grab...
Some of my friend was gonna buy the english version but knowing it cost far more than the Jp version they dont want it anymore
Yeah kinda sucks
How much it costs?
@offworldangel at least 20€ from what i can see online
U get the PG and trigger at least
How much do these run
What are some good websites to buy english sealed vanguard products in europe?
cardmarket, parkage, mawo, cartajouer
I think 50Cards ships to Europe. DifferentFight also mentioned Parkage a few years back, but I’m not sure if they’re still selling VG.
@@phillipr.9038 Parkage still sells VG don't worry.
Ya know, the fact that the EN one having Sleeve compare to the JP one is already a win in my book. It’s like you buy the deck box and sleeve with some extra vanilla cards, random PG and trigger as a bonus.
The deckbox is not as premium as the one in the stand up deckset which is kinda disappointing
But the whole point of these decks is to get new players into the game , and when they spike up the prices by 4 times and don't Include any remotely usable cards for deck building , don't you think it defeats the whole purpose of a "start up" trial deck.
I'll memorise the skills and still use them against my friends
Woah i thought these aren't released until Friday?
Maybe early get from stocked shops and/or he have pre-ordered it early
If you also live in SG, you'll have front row seat in events and early access to Bushi products.
@@kristiancuales2964usually sg got stuff early to 2 to 3 days early for both Jp and En release but is a good thing
Maybe delivery that arrived early or something?
Hey Kira what website did you use to buy these decks? Love your videos
I know 50cards still has some
Grasp fate ….
With this hand …
D I V I N E (Z)
I know they aren't great but I still stan Astrum as my Avatar.
May i have recommendations which nation should i try?? If you are Yu-Gi-Oh player, my deck before is Lunalight and Salamangreat. Also i played Ritual Beast back then
If you are not, my playstyle is aggro-control type of deck. Thanks before 🙏
maybe dragon empire or brandt gate will suit your playstyle... You can also try to find someone who explain each nation playstyle
Excuse me, I have a huge doubt, I'm returning to vanguard but I don't know how many cards I need to play, do I need 50 or 54? The ride deck has confused me a lot
4 in ride deck 50 in main
The art is cool but i think this are pretty expensive foe what they are
Sweeet I pre-ordered the dragon empire and the brandt gate
How much does this cost
Wait do these not have overtriggers in them?
Yes, they do not have OT. Typical bushi tactic
They don’t. They’re going to reprint all the overtriggers in Fated Clash next month. Still weird why they couldn’t at least put Olbaria in these decks.
Nope because Over triggers confuse new players apparently.
They should've added an Extra Olbaria for the nth time there somewhere
does it not come with energy tokens??
No you have to get those from the pack.
The energy token Cards Are only in the booster Sets in every 2-3 Pack
You need to get/pull them from upcoming booster box
but tbf, you can still use the energy counter provided if you're that bothered enough to get the energy cards
Hi, returning player. Havent played since a year or so into V.
Where is Granblue, what has happened and where can i make/buy a granblue deck. Super confused at what theyve done here
The clans have been made into nations so it’s not really called granblue anymore I would look into some videos because a lot has changed since V
Hello! Welcome back! After 3 years into V they decided to have a penultimate reboot!(we really can’t afford another one 💀)
Clans were basically condensed into 6 different nations so that way support for each can be consistent (no more waiting a year for your support)
While there’s no more Granblue by name, there are some Granblue playstyle esque decks and esque aesthetic currently in the format, like this start deck’s cristianos(albeit with an Aqua force skin), and Zorga , who mixes his drop zone revival with orders (a new type of card that acts like a spell that can only be played once per turn)
And if those aren’t your fancy, v and premium are also options to keep running Granblue in
@@oshysplashers Thank you so much dude!
Same I’m so confused 😅 I miss the unique clan types but I understand that support is easier to find now this way…
Granblue is in Stoichiea. If your avatar isn't there you can try running Zorga since it best represents granblue
whoa are theses deck really for global?
It's like paying for a demo deck 😂
That's an insult to the demo deck
Which doesn't exist now?
Come to think of it the last one was a print and play
what is the msrp on these?
16$
@@tagschmidt1259 that's what I thought it was around but everywhere I see it its $25-30...
How much was each deck cost.
sbout £19 in Uk so probably about like 20 to 25?
16 USD
I understand why they put those numbered cards but i hate them. The fact that you have to buy 2 tds to get a playset of certain cards sucks.
you need 2 decks to be functional?
You need two decks to have a clean G3
Are any of them even shiny? I mean like, at least give us that
No foils like the stand up deckset
are these decks competitive?
not at all, they are terrible. The only useful cards are those 2 promos. If you want a competitive deck buy the Shiranui deckset which is cheap.
It's like giving away the match at your locals. Unless you got lucky or use that promo G3 from Lyrical that supports vanillas
How did you get them so early?
Man they didn't fix the issue of this product in English format. What a waste of the paper.
what issue?
@@kelliealanis9485 The Vanilla card issue.
They sell the vanilla version card in this Starter deck. If u wan the same card have effect, u need to buy the Booster. No to mention the price in global version is higher because they include sleeve in the product.
@@kelliealanis9485 The Vanilla issue.
U need to buy booster to get the same card with effect if u wan to build the deck. Not to mention it's more expenaive in global because they include the sleeve
@@kahchunrock5582 that sucks
Nah, they justified the price by slapping in Sleeves and a deckbox
a lolt of ppl hate this product lol i dont think they fully understand its just for baby's first card game and that bushi may make the energy generator available in other stuff theres no need for ppl to get as mad as they are about this product i think its a good product
Those so called babies are going to have to buy card singles just to be able to play the game properly because these Start decks give you vanilla units & cards that you have to put into the bin because of those numbered cards. These decks do not prepare you to play the game at all; you will easily get overwhelmed by all the effects & mechanics in an actual D format deck.
In addition to that, these decks do not introduce the Ovetriggers or of the more difficult mechanics introduced in D format. None of the Dress mechanics, none of the Order mechanics, no Divine Skills, etc. And knowing they will have to dish at least $40-80 just to have a semi viable deck in the game, when they can play a cheaper game such as Digimon. The obvious option is they will play that or a more popular IP such as Pokemon/One Piece.
Yeah the baby first card game that cost u 20-25 Doller, and U can use the same money to buy 2 Yugioh Structure deck and build a decent deck to play. What a great business idea.
TBH, If u let them get away this this kind of product, I can imaging the backlash future consumer will get.
The thing closest to a structure deck costs 50+ bucks or 44+ without any foils and you still need more pieces from other sets in this game.
At least Pokemon did the Chien-Pao move back when it was metagame
You positive about anything, they should hire you to explain massacres to children.
The old trial decks at least is playable with some units that have skills. This divinez series of TD is complete trash 😂
Bro this product is not worth the price