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This song has a history as an early-mid 2000s internet meme, specifically circulating in Japan, the most famous of which is an edit of a Japanese McDonalds Commercial featuring Ronald McDonald making some strange noises.
What a great comment
RAN RAN RUUUUUUUUUU!
That video is the reason why I got into Touhou back in the day lol
@@JessesAuditorium I'm not even kidding, the japanese ronald mcdonald meme set to this theme was what got me into touhou, and all these years later I have a...distressing amount of touhou music on my computer because there's literally over a hundred thousand remixes out there at this point. all because of RAN RAN RU
@@andr0zzsenpai Not even just touhou. It got us into 'meme' culture.
According to the Touhou wiki, the song's name, U.N. Owen Was Her?, is a reference to an Agatha Christie novel, 'And Then There Were None'. In the book, there were invitations sent out, and the spouse of the person who sent the invitations had the name 'U.N. Owen', which stood for 'Unknown', and the characters in that book were killed by an unknown person.
The character the song belongs to, Flandre, was locked underground with no knowledge of the outside world, so Zun related that to U.N. Owen being 'unknown'.
Quite the odd reference!
That's how I got into Touhou, through Agatha Christie.
thats awesome to know!
it's a great novel, highly recommend
Also worth noting, the second-to-last spellcard Flandre uses is straight up called "Secret [And then there will be none]"
I believe her last spell "Q.E.D [Ripples of 495 years]" is also a reference to Agatha Christie? Unsure there, though.
If I had a nickel for every Japanese game franchise to reference Agatha Christie novels, I'd have two nickels and blah blah blah you know the rest.
Every chapter title in Armored Core 4 is a reference to a different Agatha Christie novel.
'U.N Owen Was Her?', along with 'Flowering Night' ('Night of Nights'), and 'Bad Apple!!' were essentially the Megalovania of the 2000s. They were incredibly popular as memes, both in Japan and also here in the west. U.N Owen in particular has a history with a Ronald McDonald "MAD" video ('Ronald McDonald Insanity') also known as the 'McRoll', and as a mistitled piece of music called "Death Waltz" as well. There is also a remix of the song by beatMARIO ('Last Brutal Sister Flandre S') which gained immense popularity at around the same time.
Thank you. I'm so glad people remember this
Necrofantasia too right after "death waltz".
"As if that song was in a haunted mansion"
... ... ... you fight Flandre in the secret basement of a vampire mansion. xD
Dolls in Pseudo Paradise is a music album by ZUN, which came out a few months after TH6. The version in DiPP is supposed to be a different arrangement, but I can't really tell the difference between the two versions. Maybe whoever requested this linked the DiPP version because it has a higher quality upload on UA-cam.
I've heard the original one from th6 for a lot of times and DiPP version really feel only different with the pitch on instruments and notes. The whole arrangement as face value looks like the same 1:1 copy (lmao)
The original tracks on DiPP are fire. They're some of my favorites in the series.
Fun fact, ZUN and Toby Fox did a collab for a song in a Touhou rhythm game where they merged U.N. Owen Was Her? with Battle Against A True Hero.
It's called "U.N. Owen Was Hero?"
Do you know by chance the name of that game?
@@datkittydawg1753 Touhou danmaku kagura phantasia lost
Now you need to do "Hartmann's Youkai Girl" from TH 11
He hasn't done it? Yeah it's definitely a cool song.
You listened to every version of the track except for the actual one from Touhou 6.
The original one is tricky to find since the most popular upload of it is mashed with a remix of the track that got a bit famous due to memes.
I recommend PineappleDisciple's or Louchan2's uploads of the track for listening, if you want to listen to it.
Also there is a remix of the track made in collaboration by ZUN and Toby Fox called "U.N. Owen was hero?", which is pretty cool too.
That's kind what happened. The only original version that was submitted was the one that included the remix, so they just assumed that the DiPP one was the original.
Well the first one he listened to is the Touhou 6: EoSD original, except it's transposed up a little (maybe to avoid content ID?). Bit weird and unfortunate, but listening to the real one would just be listening to the same thing again.
@@Karifean it is the Dolls in Pseudo Paradise version. The EoSD version is different, mostly being in a different key (I think) and subtle instrument differences.
@@marcossegon5433 Ah yeah you're right. Never mind then.
@@marcossegon5433 I was just thinking, was it always that high pitched?
This is the one Touhou song I know because of hearing and loving an orchestral version of it as a kid. 😅
About the x.5 games, those are spin offs and while not all of them are composed by other people, the ones made by Twilight Frontier (a doujin group that made the fighting game spin offs and Touhou 17.5) are. However, the bullet hell ones are still composed by ZUN, and the final boss themes plus some other occasional theme in the Twilight Frontier spin offs are also made by ZUN.
The games made by this group are 7.5, 10.5, 12.3, 13.5, 14.5, 15.5 and 17.5. ZUN only composes the final boss themes and, as I said, one more theme occasionally, usually for a very important character in said game.
Ronald McDonald.
damn i just got mcrolled
RAN RAN RUUUU
Truly the most UN Owen was Her of all time
RAN RAN
nostalgia
By the way, this week ZUN released a new album "Taboo Japan Disentanglement", in which he released new versions of the following tracks:
-Does the Forbidden Door Lead to This World, or the World Beyond
-Smoking Dragon
-Crazy Backup Dancers
-Yorimashi Between Dreams and Reality ~ Nero-Fantasia
-The Lamentations Known Only by Jizo
-The Concealed Four Seasons
However, I'm not sure if I can find versions of tracks from the new album on UA-cam right now, because all I've found now are fan arrangements.
Many people have already uploaded them on UA-cam. But unfortunately, they were removed due to copyright strikes a few days ago after the album's release. Rainbow-Colored Septentrion was also treated this way too.
@@NnickykunN Yes, ZUN strike high quality audio Hifuu albums, so you can if it's mid quality, but I could only advice to buy the album because it's one of his best work in my own opinion.
Oh, Flandre. She's a fun character to talk about.
Mainly known as the main Touhou icon besides Reimu and Marisa, when talking about videogames, she only appeared in these, and in other fighting games as a cameo. She also made some occasional appearances in some of the mangas and CDs, which leads to another fun fact.
For her introduction in Touhou 6, she was known in the internet as the "sadistic creepy murder child that was locked by the rest of her family for everyone else's sake"... Which was somewhat wrong. Yes, she can destroy literally anything (that's her ability nonetheless), and yes, everyone has taken some measures for that, but she's kinda nice. Heck, she CAN destroy those measures if she wants too, but the basement is that comfy for her. That didn't stop her to have (maybe even to this day) the highest amount of remixes, covers and arranges of her theme, tho.
Flandre is generally polite and nice to other people, that is true. And she doesn't bother breaking herself out of being locked away in the basement since everything she needs to live is provided for her by others. But she's definitely still unhinged and dangerous. That was part of her character description way back in Touhou 6. And her recent appearances have kept true to that.
Have you seen her in Touhou 17.5 or the official Detective Satori manga? In both she was given permission to leave the basement only to fight a troublemaker causing an incident, and both times her response is to put on a sadistic, creepy, slasher smile and agree immediately because she thinks it'll be fun. And she behaves pretty crazy and ruthless in battle, while almost always smiling or laughing.
Satori tells Flandre the quickest way to figure out who's been possessed by the antagonist is to have her fight everybody who's locked up in Byakuren's temple to see how they react and fight back. Flandre asks if it's fine if she just kills everyone, which is concerning that crossed her mind to begin with. And when Satori tells her that'd be too much for her to handle since Reimu, Marisa, and Byakuren are there, Flandre gets noticeably pissed off and says not to underestimate her. Also concerning that she has the confidence to attempt killing everybody.
She straight up calls herself a god of destruction multiple times, even though Touhou has plenty of gods and she isn't one of them. One of her favorite things to do is defeat opponents that nobody else is able to defeat. Do not make a drinking game out of how many times she says some variation of the word "Destroy." She's definitely still a menace. She just has enough sense to not go on a rampage without a good reason to do so. She's pleasant and friendly in that case.
@@Havic101-atc That is true. I was mostly referring to other Flandre interpretations in the fandom where she destroys and kills even more than she says she wants to.
About being able to leave in Gouyoku, it's kind of a gray area. One thing is to have permission of your sister and other inhabitants of the SDM, and the other is being able to leave for an exercise because some god has literally borrowed you a backdoor. Just because the basement is comfy doesn't mean she sometimes gets bored, wanna go for a walk, and maybe even destroy some random meteor in the process.
Funny that you didn't talk about what she says in Foul Detective Satori about her life style: she is an introvert and everything she wants delivered to her by the maids
Finally you get around to TH6.
To this day the music and characters from 6 remain the most popular in the series, even after all this time, with this song being arguably one of the top 5 touhou songs of all time. It's reach is huge and even goes beyond touhou, with popular early 2000s memes such as the Ronald McDonald insanity video. As well as the incorrectly named "death waltz" which was a click bait video about the "hardest piano song ever" and it's just a piano cover of Un owen was her.
Also this song always puts me in a good mood, despite it's dark tone. And especially the Christmas cover someone made, which turns this song from being dark and edgy into the cutest thing with sleigh bells and it's just fun.
Yeah it's debatable if it is top 5 touhou songs, but along with bad apple it's DEFINITELY top 2 in popularity.
Ackchually the fake Death Waltz is based on Marasy8's piano cover of Last Brutal Sister Flandre S 🤓
Btw, Jerod the 8BitDrummer tried to drum along with Touhou 17.5 version of UN Owen and he struggled a lot because of the constant changing of odd time signatures
Perfect timing for this song. This song is such a great secret boss song. Whimsical, playful yet "oh no no no". I've been to many a live show where they cover this song.
I knew this day would come and here it is
You should see the video of the guy crazy enough to play this song all on his own. The legend was playing so many instruments he became a one man band🤯
Music for 7.5, 10.5, 12.3, 13.5, 14.5, 15.5 and 17.5 was mostly composed by other composers (including remixes of previous ZUN tracks), but even in each of these games ZUN composed music for the last bosses, in some he composed 2-3 songs. For example, for 15.5 ZUN wrote Egoistic Flowers, which you mentioned in this video (I'm waiting for a video with this track, I haven't found it on the channel yet), and at 15.5 ZUN rearranged Necrofantasia from th7 into a new song (Yorimashi Between Dreams and Reality ~ Necro-Fantasia)
So this song is pretty much the 2nd most well known Touhou song, only behind Bad Apple (though that is popular because of the remix version and the music video). As a standalone Touhou song, this is probably the most prolific one. Of course, Touhou as a whole is too niche to ever be well known outside of the gaming or anime-y spheres of the Internet. I don't think U.N Owen Was Her would be recognized outside those contexts, but I would say there is a good chance a lot of people within those spheres would at least recognize the theme, even if they didn't know what it was from. I'd say the only thing more well known is Bad Apple's remix and accompanying music video, and honestly, I think the music video might take the crown for most recognizable Touhou Thing, and even then I'd say that recognition woild be limited to people on the Internet
Hey look, it's _THE_ Touhou song.
I thought THE Touhou song is, like, Bad Apple.
@@m.wafiraihan1364 Nah, for Touhou songs directly from the games, this is it.
Bad Apple's popularity was much later, and the popular version is a very different arrange.
@Cyril86 yup. Though i prefer the original one, and no I don't mean akyuus version which is also a little different from the original
Theme of Eastern Story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@@PepeDanyee Yeah, but it's not as well-known outside the Touhou fandom.
Touhou 6 might have my favorite soundtrack, the mix between eastern and western styles is so magnificently achieved. Stuff like Shanghai Alice of Meiji 17, Lunar Clock ~ Luna Dial, Septette for the Dead Princess, and this one, stuff of legends. There's not a single song or character in that game that isn't mega popular.
About songs being brought back, if the character appears again then the song returns too, but depending on the character (IE MARISA) they are likely to get a new theme
There's a song called "Beneath the Scarlet Moon" that Falkkone made an incredible cover of. I highly recommend it.
U.N Owen Was Her is such a banger on itself. Ironically enough, as a big of a meme as it is, I think the first time I heard it was the Everfades rendition/cover for their album "Reverie"- that version is called "東方]千年の孤独" ("A Thousand Years of Solitude") and it's easy my most favorite version of it. Everfades got the original banger tune and re-imagined it into a literal classical Beethoven-like sonata that goes hard.
About songs repeating across games:
In general, for the main numbered games (full numbers, no decimals), each game is all new tracks. Even if a previous character makes a reappearance, they'll have a new BGM.
The side games (with decimals) on the other hand do sometimes reuse/remix the existing songs. This happens especially with the fighting games, which ZUN is less hands on with (delegating to Tasogare Frontier). 17.5 is another Tasofro title, hence the remix.
O boy I've been waiting for this one and you know when this is here, Hartmann's Youkai Girl can't be far.
These two renditions being so different from each other is pretty appropriate. For a very long time, people only had Flandre'a appearance in Touhou 6 to judge her on, so everyone based their opinion of her on that- a childish, playful, absurdly powerful girl with little regard for holding back her absurd power, which is to "destroy anything and everything". Then, she vanished from the series for a long time (it's kinda hard to use a character who spends all her time locked in a basement) until making her first official appearance in _years_ in one of the graphic novels, where she got a little time in the spotlight. That's when people started to realize that Flandre was only like that in 6 because she hadn't gotten to "play" with anyone in a while.
Turns out, Flandre's actually pretty chill? Like, yeah, she's locked in a basement most of the time, but she could just destroy the lock whenever she wants and leave. And with her insane power, basically no one could stand against her. So why doesn't she? Because she doesn't really mind. She happens to like that basement, and the servants in the mansion take care of her, so it's a pretty cozy life all things considered. The _only_ reason she isn't a recurring, unstoppable force in the series is because she doesn't wanna be.
That's what makes these two very different versions so interesting and equally fitting. The original version, where she's only known as a ludicrously strong opponent, conveys a sadistic, almost thoughtless nature that fits how people tend to _see_ Flandre. The newest version, from the game where for the first time ever Flandre becomes a character you can _play_ as, embodies her true nature: carefree, confident, and _well aware_ of how dangerous she is.
@@blivveries Not only is she well aware how dangerous she is, she's careful and knows despite the strength of her power, she's not invincible and unstoppable, so she knows restraint. She's just childish. That doesn't stop her from loving her family, her friends, the people that take care of her. Hell, Meiling actively enjoys hanging out and playing with her. Her fight in TH6 only happens because she comes out of the basement wondering where everyone is. Patchy catches wind of this, and summons rain around the manor to make sure she doesnt go wandering outside, otherwise, Marisa/Reimu are free to engage with her.
Huh, I thought for sure that you've already reacted to this, because EVERYBODY either react to U.N. Owen Was Her? or Hartmann's Youkai Girl as their first Touhou song reaction. LOL
U.N. Owen may not be my personal favourite tracks of that game (that belongs to "Shanghai Scarlet Teahouse ~ Chinese Tea" - which I also would love to see you react to it!), but it's an absolute beloved classic for sure!
I like that you're reacting to 2 versions for comparisons (or more like when you did the Calamari Inkantation!), I think it'd be nice if you could always do all the versions of each Touhou song like this. In fact, I'd love to see you listen to both the original theme and certain fan-arranged theme (though I think you've only ever react to official themes, is that right?). It's just that there are so many amazing fan-arranged Touhou tracks that it'd be great to see you react and and share your thoughts on such arrangements.
Nowadays he always reacts to two songs per video, which means that tracks with multiple versions like this can have both showcased. But unfortunately he only reacts to songs from actual games or official arranges of game music; so no unrelated fan remixes, which make up the majority of Touhou music.
The one loophole is that certain fan arrangements are used in actual games, for example stuff from Lost Word or Luna Nights.
Love me some Touhou music. Native Faith is my personal favorite Touhou song.
Finally you reacted to one of the older more popular Touhou songs. Generally speaking songs from the first 10 games or so are among the most popular in touhou, with Touhou 6 being arguably the most iconic. UN Owen was Hers, Night of Nights (Flowering Nights/Lunar Clock), Bad Apple, are among the most popular songs.
Also something unique to Touhou is that Touhou "Remixes" are very frequently different renditions of the songs and arrangements, rather than a standard remix. I'd love for you to specifically compare Lunar Clock, Flowering Nights (both official), and Night of Nights (Most Popular Fan remix and touhou song by far).
At this point of the series, Zun was still moving off of the midi chiptune stuff he was doing for the previous games
So his music for 6 sounds more like a middle line between the modern and old stuff
And for 17.5, it was a massive announcement at the time to hear that Flandre was in the game
Seeing as Touhou 6 was her previous appearance despite being a massive fan favorite
20 years after
So, ya didn't actually listen to the orignal version XD. Dolls in Pseudo Paradise is a CD containing an arrange of the song, and Touhou 17.5 version is another remix. So, it's really funny that no-one gave us the original.
Would love to see your reactions to some of the even older tracks. Reincarnation, Inanimate Dream, Infinite Being, or Grimoire of Alice would all be amazing to hear your thoughts about
Well, TH6 has the most famous songs of all the series. Pretty much every song, be it stage theme or boss theme, is *very* popular.
7 and 8 come in close, and I would take a guess and say that 10 is popular too.
But 6 has, by far, the most known songs, except maybe for Bad Apple.
As for the "dark energy"... Makes sense. Flandre is a vampire, whose power is simply "erase you from existence".
She's so powerful that her sister locked her up in the attic, and she's been ther for centuries. She ended up insane, to say the least.
Picture the way a cat likes to play with its prey... But the cat is a lion, and the prey is an earthworm.
That would summ up how it would be facing Flandre in a fight.
The zunpets were pretty much introduced with 6 as that game marked the transition from the PC-98 to Windows, allowing for MIDI rather than 8-bit(?) sound. But as iconic and prominent as they are, there are Touhou songs that do not have them.
Also, songs tend to return when a character does. Particularly in the official spin-offs (the point 5s) but also 9 and 19 have a few rearrangements and remixes. The funniest case to me of that is Deaf to All But the Song from 8, which is remixed in the very next game as Deaf to All But the Song (flower mix).
To answer the sphere thing, yes, I would say that U.N. Owen, along with Bad Apple and Night of Nights are kind of the forefront, the surface of Touhou's sphere of influence, ie it's the thing people who are outsiders to the Touhou sphere outsiders to the gaming sphere, heck the most normie, or even hillbilly under-rock dwelling individuals would likely know about or maybe even equate to Touhou like, when some people think Touhou they think this melody.
Typically touhou songs are stuck to a character, so if the character appears then the song will appear
Since not every game features every character, some songs only come back after a long time
This song, UN Owen, is fascinating in that it is associated with the character Flandre Scarlet
If you've been on the internet, you've probably seen the character somewhere, she is one of the most popular touhou characters
The reason I say this is interesting is because Flandre appears in touhou 6 in 2002, and then did not appear in another game until 17.5 released in 2023
Obviously fans are ecstatic to see her return, but
I just think it's amazing that the character left such an impression that people were still loving her song, remixing it, drawing art of her and writing fanfiction for twenty years
I heard someone once say that either this song or Flowering Night (another touhou song) held a record for most remixed song of all time
But it was just some random person, not a trustworthy source, so take it with a truckload of salt
Point is
This song is insanely popular in niche internet subcultures
She appears in 9.5 and 16.5, in 8 she's mentioned by Remilia
Since you know this
You also understand why I didn't count these
Oh, I've been waiting to hear this one xd
10:00 no. absolutely not.
that is the first time. And its the song thats been in first place in each popularity poll every single year since 2006. U.N. Owen is its own breed even among touhou songs
The first one is a pitched up version of the original. The original version actually uses pitches that do not exist on a keyboard (ZUN used pitches "in-between the keyboard" to make the theme especially unsettling.)
This is one of the most recognizable and popular Touhou songs out there, easily top 5. This song is so popular that it's one of the few who made it to become a meme on the level of Megalovenia in the 2000s, beyond what Touhou is. I'm actually surprised you haven't heard of this song before for how much if a meme this is, outside the context of Touhou...
The 17.5 version is a real to pain to work with, the time sigs go:
4/4 -> 3/4 -> 5/8 -> 6/8 incredibly rapidly and continues to bounce between 5/8 and 6/8 for the chorus.
Praying for Necrofantasia to show up on your channel now lol. Touhou extra stage boss themes are in a league of their own
Each entries (with exceptions between here and there) will have some new characters to introduce into the touhou casts. Even though some of those x.5 games are made by other studios with collaboration with ZUN, He is the person that make the music for those new characters while already existing characters either get the remix from other music artists or ZUN just rearrange/make a new one himself.
For the music relation, it's not really that this specific theme is popular so the theme comes up in newer entries but moreso the character is related to the story of that entry (as they appear to either be one of the main protagonists or one of the bosses OR both) as the music is basically the representation of that character and ZUN did bring them back into the new entries from time to time.
I like to call this song ZUN's Dancing Mad. It feels off the wall for touhou music and all things considered, pretty chaotic, and then straight back into a very standard "this sounds like something you'd hear in an RPG"
Loli-tastic melodies like this are what I'm best at - ZUN
I Love the Version of U.N.Owen Was Her? used in Luna Nights.
But I've loved this theme since 2007 XD
The 17.5 remix is really fun for just how often it switches time signatures. I'm no expert, but someone tracked on a timeline all the different ones. It seems like a lot of jumping around!
What I know of the ZUNpet was that it wasn't used until A Dream More Scarlet than Red in 2002 (a year after Dolls in Pseudo Paradise), and he's used it ever since with some refinements in 8 and 9.
U.N. Owen refers to the culprit in a Anf then there were none, a mistery book, it basically means "she was the killer?"
Never forget that one video of dude playing this song all by himself. Old youtube legend
Ooh here it is lets goo
When this came out, Zunpets were already a thing, but not as prevalent.
man that second version sounds like it'd fit in a castlevania. EDIT yeah i know ELO :O
If there is anything anyone knows about touhou then its either this or bad apple. Its the most popular song, it either wins(or at worst loses to stage 6 boss theme from the same game) every single year and it has absurd amount of remixes and memes around it. You can listen to U.N Owen was her? in pretty much every genre and variation you can imagine.
Zun still does some music for 17.5(and also does the writing for it) just not all of it. Usually its just for the newly appearing characters like the final boss from this game) while guests do remixes from returning characters. Imo the ".5" games have some of the best tracks of the entire series, for example the main menu theme from 17.5 is godlike.
There are songs with ZUNpets in 6 but as you can hear he doesn't use them as often as in the later games
Finally, what an absolute classic.
This was the first Touhou game for Windows in 2002 so it sounds pretty unique in its sound imo due to this transition period between platforms. Prior to this, all games were on the PC-98 with FM synth sound.
As for your .5 comment, it depends, some of the games are by ZUN, some aren't. ZUN often makes side/extended stories hence the .3, .5, .8, type of stuff and usually have different styles of gameplay, though ZUN's works are always bullet hells but with a unique twist on them. For example, Touhou 9.5 Shoot The Bullet, stars Aya Shameimaru and it's dodging bullets and taking photos and made by solely ZUN. This one, 17.5 is a collaboration between ZUN and Twilight Frontier and an action game, and ZUN does in fact have at least 2 original compositions on this soundtrack for the character Yuuma Toutetsu. Typically in these collaborated games, ZUN takes on a more guest appearance role and let others remix his music. Touhou even has official fighting games by Twilight Frontier as well, all done in collaboration with ZUN.
10:00 many do, but others don't.
Sakuya's theme, "Lunar Clock Luna Dial" didn't carry over and instead she got another theme, "Flowering Night".
Another example I can think of is the many themes the character Marisa has, meaning most of the time she appears in a game she gets a different theme rather than a rearrangement, although she does get a ton of arrangements. (Completely not ZUN's favorite)
Also, you are kinda right, ".5" games get others to arrange ZUN's work, but not every single one, iirc every final boss's theme is made by ZUN.
IT IS HERE!!
can we do the ronald mc Donald version for next april fools please 🥺🥺
For another Touhou 6 song you could check out the theme of this character's sister, Septette For The Dead Princess
With a quick scroll, I haven't seen it explained; Flandre Scarlet is a "young girl" (but also an ageless vampire, so in mind only) who has no perception of her own power. She "innocently" and casually kills and destroys things unintentionally and without even perceiving, so her older sister has locked her away on her lonesome to spare the world her destructive tendencies. I feel like the tragedy of a girl who just wants to be whimsical and have fun playing being locked in "solitary" because her playing brings forth death and destruction comes through in the song with the mix of melodic patterns you'd expect to hear coming out of a circus tent but twisted by minor chords.
She is an introvert
I mean Flandre chooses to stay down there, it isn't like she has to stay down there. My source is Cheating Detective Satori.
Craziest Touhou Song or Most Craziest Touhou Song?
This is a huge fan favorite that's been meme'd to hell and back by the fandom.
There's a popular remix of this song by COOL&CREATE that is about as iconic as the original
Now you ahve to react to the collab between ZUN and Toby Fox named "U.N Owen was hero?". As a note on that, Toby Fox said that ZUN was his inspiration when creating music, so making that collab should be like a dream come true for him.
Also, check the video Ronald McDonnals insanity, is literally the most famous parody version of this song.
Ah yes the track that kind of got me into touhou back in the day. I think it was my like early highschool days when I found the track and since the character tied to it (Flandre) looked cool I looked further into it. Eventually found the download for touhou 6 and admittedly....I suck at it. So I ever really got to enjoy the OST separate from the game lol. I don't really follow the franchise as hard as some people do, but I definitely enjoy it's OST.
U.n. Owen is reference to Agatha christie book and is word play meaning "unknown was her" which is reference to Flanders botched mutaation to vampire. She is an unknown being. Think of these characters as muses. Every piece of music is Part of storytelling, of emoticon and history.
Difference between The two tracks is just reflecting their current sitsuation, usually in highquality productions like 17.5 ost.
So, a bit of context on Touhou numbers. Touhou 6 was the first Touhou game developed for Windows. 1 through 5 were on PC-98 and Touhou 6 was sorta a "soft" reset for the series. So Touhou 6's music and characters remain iconic to this day, despite the game itself being quite dated. Anything before Touhou 6 had a much more limited soundfont due to being on the PC-98.
Ran Ran Ruu!
That second version sounded like something out of Star Ocean lol
You've now reached the peak of Touhou in all its glory.
tfw someone pronounces Flandre's name correctly right off 🥹
It's not difficult, it's the pudding 'flan' and the musician dr. 'dre'
@@HyperVanilo Flan-Door or Flan-Der by the Japanese spelling (フランドール). Flan-Dre would be フランドル.
Flan-Dre is a perfectly accurate spelling, but not necessarily a reading.
Maybe a minor nitpick but when he said Flan-Der I immediately subscribed. lol
Though there's no reason not to pronounce it how you want. I'm just obsessive-compulsive. 😶
It's funny how out of the big three, this is the only one that is actually made by ZUN, since Night of Nights is a remix of Flowering Night and Bad Apple is so heavily associated with the animation and the remix, that the video with the actual theme has like 1% views of the animation video.
Ronald McDonald insanity flashbacks
The first song you heard is not Touhou 6's song. The song you heard was an arrangement by ZUN of Touhou 6's song and was included in "Dolls in Pseudo Paradise." This is one of "ZUN's Music Collection."
U N Owen Was her was part of a popular meme inthe 2000's. It's one of the few parts of Touhou that broke out into mainstream internet culture. Many people have heard this song entirely separate from anything else Touhou related.
It also claims the #1 spot on the Touhou community's music popularity poll every year. It's the most popular song from the most popular game sin the series.
Also, Touhou 6 was the first game on Windows OS. The previous games had MIDI sound files, but TH6 usedd WAV files. ZUN didn't take full advantage of the new format, though, so it still sounds like a MIDI tile. TH7 is where you can really tell that the ZUN is using better equipment.
All I can say is...
Ran Ran Ruuuuuuuuuu
Yeah this song probably has the most fan arranges made of any touhou song. Easily in the thousands. People used it in any combination of instruments and styles imaginable.
Touhou themes and characters almost never transfer across the mainline games aside from the two major characters of Touhou (Reimu and Marisa) and the occasional boss returning as a playable character. Themes do come back in the spinoff games if a character returns in them.
Touhou 6 aka The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil is probably the most well known early Touhou game, and its soundtrack was one of the most important factors in making it popular (from wonderful musical values to straight up memes)
It annoys me how much the pitch has been shifted ever so slightly higher XD XD
But yeah, it's a great song and seems to have still made a good impression :3
There are hundreds of stage themes, unique boss themes or album tracks you haven't heard / will probably never hear because they aren't popular enough
Regarding TH music, I recommend album music rather than game music
ZUN once said that the music produced to serve the game severely restricted his performance.
Oh god did he just teased a Egoistic Flowers reaction ?
Touhou 6 is full of great tracks. As the first game in the next generation of Touhou on Windows instead of PC98, a lot of the themes sound like a mix of both generations.
I feel that Touhou 7 also has that same kind of feel with some of the tracks.
U.N. Owen was Her is one of the most famous touhou songs in the Fandom and the only one other than Bad apple that outside the fandom know. Also funnily enough you didn't listen to the original, but a midislap made for an album called Dolls in Pseudo Pardise that, has amuch darker tone lol
Also yes, un Owen was her was written while the zunpet was in its prime, its just the 50% of touhou songs don't use zunpets at all
Rush Garcia also made a great cover of this song
I wish the original version was here but regardless cool video!
Anything with decimal numbers is non standard bullet hell games made exclusively by ZUN.
The standard is 6 stages plus an extra stage, some have added features as an additional stage or adding pvp but not much more.
The decimals include other types of shmups made by ZUN or other genres, like fighting games, with other producers joining in.
Still, new character themes are made by ZUN.
The song title is a novel referance to agata cristie i belive sorry if I spelled the name wrong
Yes it is, she has a spell card named Secret "...and will there be none?"
Maybe not here, but if you pick a random person from the street in Japan, there is a high chance they'll know this song. This song was one of the founding viral tracks of the site niconico douga, basically japanese youtube, top 40 most visited japanese site. This song is associated more with the viral meme japanese culture than with the gaming community.
i would be remiss not to mention that due to the song U-N-K-O-W-N by crazy beats and reon kurosaki this melody has gotten thoroughly stuck in my head. as its this song but eurobeat with lyrics
And now we wait for Native Faith
Man this theme aint the same without RAN RAN RU sometimes I forget that old video is not the real version.
Someone has to request some music cd tracks like "strange oriental discurse" they are soo 🔥
I will say my favorite version of U.N. Owen was her is from Scarlet Curiosity
Welcome to Touhou music, enjoy your stay.
This song is intrinsically linked to Ronald McDonald for me. dan dan duuu
Honestly, Jesse, I think you should check out the Touhou fan animation "Who Killed U.N. Owen"... If not as a reaction, then just to see what the Touhou fandom has done with this music track and to familiarize yourself a little bit with what kinda girl Flandre is. (Don't forget to turn on the subtitles if you do decide to check it out.)
Specifically, what THEY, the fandom during the time of the arrangement’s creation, thought of her as the most popular theory, basically in retrospect a flanderized and bastardized version of an at the time basically non-existent character with a very not fleshed out personality, kinda like koishi somewhat though for her you can sorta blame kkhta for. Most people nowadays know that Flan wouldn’t murder everyone just because she can and don’t really like the older psycho version now that we know that we were way off the mark; still a great arrangement from Liz Triangle, but the lyrics and general theming of both animation and song kinda make me cringe now that we have hindsight.
I know you already know all this but the wording of your comment gives off big misinformation vibes and definitely could’ve been worded better, and I’m only referring to the sentence before the parenthesis that talks about “how Flan really is”, everything else is fine.
@@cchieffkiefbeff I mean, none of Flan's later appearances (Sunken Fossil World and Foul Detective Satori) have exactly dispelled the notion that she's insane in the membrane or have painted a picture of sanity in their portrayals of her. Sure, she's not necessarily at the "kill just because" level of madness depicted in many fanworks, but she's still definitely the go-to pick for "most likely to jump at the opportunity to choke a bish." (Poor Meiling.)
@@GrahamChapman It’s like, your average 2hu doesn’t really have morals because Gensokyo doesn’t and a majority of them are youkai, but at the same time most 2hus at least have social standards and boundaries, they’re unhinged but in a controlled sense and won’t randomly do things like choke eachother. But Flan, being in a basement for 495 years, doesn’t really have any social standards or really a grip on what “sociably moral by Gensokyo’s standards”, as such things like wanting to play but going way overboard happen, she just doesn’t and frankly probably doesn’t want to, have a good grip on what she should do, so she ends up choking meiling because “how else are you going to get any info out of her otherwise.” She’s childish in a way that unlike Remi, who knows when to restrain her childishness and how to act mature, she just lets everything out and also is spoiled so when she wants something, she’ll get it, no bars held.
As far as we can tell, she’s perfectly sane, or about as sane as a 2hu can be, and just like how ZUN says that Marisa being a very honest character who doesn’t hide anything makes her odd compared to everyone else, Flan too is very uncharacteristically blunt and willing to do whatever she needs to accomplish her goals without morals or societal rules of decency getting in the way, frankly because she probably doesn’t care.
tl;dr: flandre scarlet is unrestrained, not insane, by the world and it’s willingness to hold back
Ronald Mc Donald Insanity
U.N. Owen Was Internet.
The 17.5 version reminds me of Golden Sun style, it sounds alike?