I think this was more of a call to arms for the East Coast to show what they got. Also some good, healthy competition, this comes from a place of love, not hate.
THANK YOU! This is exactly what I felt when I heard the line. The evil is defeated, now we can watch rappers have some fun through sparring, cause it's what the culture has needed for a long time. The last 5 beefs of my lifetime have been crazy personal, I just want people to show they can spit better. I love rap for the sport of it above all else, so I'm just gonna kick back and enjoy the playful rock throwing.
we need a battle between Joey and like Rocky and whoever else wants to claim King of NY before they try coming at Kendrick. i think that's what he's talking about when he calls himself "heir-apparent." he's trying to set off the East Coast and spearhead a movement the way Kendrick is with the West.
KDot x Joey for 2025 probably will be better fight than KDot x Drake LMAO they all want the smoke with KDot, being king means defending your claim, its the return of Hip Hop!
Damn, I remember bumping the killuminati diss way back in high school. Time flies man, these are 2 of my favorite rappers since I was a teenager. I don't mind Joey's energy on this track. It's strictly rap and competitive spirit. I hope Dot and Joey both drop this year!
On the other hand, this and Drake's new freestyle dragging out the Kendrick beef is keeping my Autistic hyperfixation on Drake's downfall alive. I'm being serious saying that. The fact that Kendrick's having progress in the music industry, while Drake is just sitting down crying and other artists try to get smoke really tickles my Neurodivergent brain.
All American badass was supposed to be that moment he experimented and stretched his style more. It just didn’t connect how it was supposed to. I think for a lot of reasons outside of his control
The reason people dislike the song or the move isn’t because of Hip Hop itself-we all love the culture. Many of us champion lyricism and are tired of what Hip Hop has become. But the issue lies in selective competition. He didn’t go after the South, Philly, or even Drake. Instead, he targeted Hitta, Doechii, SZA, Kendrick, and the West Coast. That’s why nobody respects it, and why none of them will respond. We call them fans when they fail to grasp the nuances of competition in Hip Hop. They hide behind the idea that “bro is bringing bars back” because they can’t imagine a world where this wasn’t about igniting real competition. It wasn’t. This was about riding the coattails of a beef he wasn’t even involved in within a genre that has largely forgotten about him. Call it what it is: a weak move. A New York Young Thug moment from someone who isn’t even the king of his own city, let alone a leader of the new school.
Exactly. Finally a real Take and not Straight MeatRiding. Same people writing off Joey for no reason were Drake Stans before Kendrick challenged and Defeated him.
I don’t think it’s reasonable for just any rapper to compete with Kendrick at this point he’s like the final boss they would really have to earn it. But would be nice to see some more regional competition between rappers and what might come of it and who might emerge from it.
You don't get to underperform your whole career (since 1999) and only be talked about for your potential and think you can take a shot at the top guy. It doesn't work like that. Does his borough even know he is the king? No one's saying he can't rap... but he isn't relevant. He ain't better than Cole.
It’s funny because as this conversation went online this week, I didn’t know who this person was and I am from NY… however upon listening to the discussions and reading the comments… this young man came out when I was away in college and was basically pulling away from rap music/hip hop… I am from the “ole school” of hip hop and this newer generation of music isn’t necessarily for me… but among listening to the different perspectives on YT.. I can’t be mad at him for taking a shot at trying to get the current NY hip hop artist back on the map. Go NY, Go NY , Go!! Because I am not going to lie… my playlist of recent iTunes purchases are ALL of KL (new & old), KW (definitely disappointed in Vultures 2…👎🏽) and Sza… no lie!! 🙌🏽
@ Yes, that is what everyone keeps saying.. that he makes good music. I will definitely have to check out his catalog and whatever upcoming projects he has coming out. As he better drop soon being that he said what he said!! It would not be wise if he didn’t!! All eyes are watching to see what’s next. Capitalize on the opportunity and momentum…!
I love that hip hop has competition!! But after hearing Joey Bada$$ “diss” I just wonder did people really like it..? Or is it bc he’s dipping his toe in the Kendrick beef. No commercial song, maybe this will be his way to get the mainstream song. But no, that song wasn’t special, it’s just bc someone is coming to the Boogeyman
Idk… I feel like what he’s trying to do is just say that he’s going give his best shot at competing with the west. I don’t think it’s really an actual diss towards the west as in it coming from an actual place of spite or anything. He wants the east to do as well as the west or even do better not the west do worse. I don’t see this as an actual Kendrick diss in the way the people are saying it is I think it’s just competition but people are acting like Joey hates Kendrick and that’s definitely not true. I’m definitely not interested in a back and forth between the two I’d rather just have them go crazy on a song together. I do think the song at times and under a certain view point feels like someone complaining about not having a title they haven’t properly earned (similar to lil Wayne’s Super Bowl situation). But I just chose to look at it as competitive energy in the spirit of classic hip hop which is where joeys heart always has been. Sorry for the essay.
I feel like king of NY is at a point where the king is either Joey or Rocky and props to both of them, theyre both legends but thats week! Wth is going on? NY is being destroyed by Atlanta, LA, even Florida got a claim to being better than NY😂 Buffalo carrying rn
@@alanmorales1500I know a lot of NY & East coast rappers got pissed but did u actually take that bar seriously? I always thought he was just talk isssh but Maybe its just
Thank you! People are talking like Kendrick would just dog walk Joey & that’s not the case at all ! It’ll be an uphill battle but I believe Joey has what it takes to stand toe to toe with K. Dog lyrically
Out of interest, who do you think is the current king of New York? Honestly I think Nas may have reclaimed it at the age 50 with those recent albums, no one else really has the output at that quality to compete imo
Badass isn’t even in the top 15 in New York let alone the East Coast 😂😂😂. The man literally works for 50 as an actor and he’s still mediocre at that 😂😂
I got faith in Joey. I dont see him getting straight bodied by Kendrick. Especially if its on some competitive shit n Kendrick not digging shit up to end him like he did ol boy 😂. If they keep it just rap, perhaps everybody walks away in a better position. Hell even if Kendrick doesnt respond but Ab Soul does, that'll be a dope look for both of them
Conductor is cosplay as alchemist. As far as Joey. You can be the king of New York sellin 20k. Ok beat. Cute song. Mid lyrics. Yao Ming bars stop it blood
@ being honest and disrespectful in a creative way is part of my charm. He has a alc affiliate but just ran with his style. The way he does is in a way as to appear innovate like we never hear an alc beat. It’s musical plagiarism at best
I wish he would have cpme with something else. The beat was hollow and he had way too many lines for other people. The clearcut Kendrick subliminals and Calling out the west in his current form is goofy and premature.
_Looking forward to your take as always FLWRS_ 🫶🏾🌹 I appreciate TRB for the sentiment it was and it being in the spirit of competition, BC every region need to plant their Flag...THIS is HIP-HOP!!
I think this was more of a call to arms for the East Coast to show what they got. Also some good, healthy competition, this comes from a place of love, not hate.
THANK YOU! This is exactly what I felt when I heard the line. The evil is defeated, now we can watch rappers have some fun through sparring, cause it's what the culture has needed for a long time. The last 5 beefs of my lifetime have been crazy personal, I just want people to show they can spit better. I love rap for the sport of it above all else, so I'm just gonna kick back and enjoy the playful rock throwing.
we need a battle between Joey and like Rocky and whoever else wants to claim King of NY before they try coming at Kendrick. i think that's what he's talking about when he calls himself "heir-apparent." he's trying to set off the East Coast and spearhead a movement the way Kendrick is with the West.
“its the next season of hip hop” nah fr😂😂
2025 finna be a major year for hiphop mark my words 💯💯💯💯💯
Showing your comment section and love really quick! I won’t be able to be here for the premier so I’ll be watching the playback. Much love!
Thank you!
I'm excited that it's Joey. He can actually rap
KDot x Joey for 2025 probably will be better fight than KDot x Drake LMAO they all want the smoke with KDot, being king means defending your claim, its the return of Hip Hop!
Honestly I’d rather see them collab than diss each other
I feel like Joey and Kendrick have a lot of respect for each other seeing as how they’re both pure hip hop in an era where it’s less common.
waves playing in the background had me bumpin my head the whole time
Damn, I remember bumping the killuminati diss way back in high school. Time flies man, these are 2 of my favorite rappers since I was a teenager. I don't mind Joey's energy on this track. It's strictly rap and competitive spirit. I hope Dot and Joey both drop this year!
World domination made me a fan of Joey. the pinky and the brain intro Eminem sample on the hook and mf doom production. Godly
Lmfaooooooooooooo good luck is crazy work
Ay I fw him but idk bout this 🤣
Joey the better actor for sure
On the other hand, this and Drake's new freestyle dragging out the Kendrick beef is keeping my Autistic hyperfixation on Drake's downfall alive.
I'm being serious saying that. The fact that Kendrick's having progress in the music industry, while Drake is just sitting down crying and other artists try to get smoke really tickles my Neurodivergent brain.
Same
All American badass was supposed to be that moment he experimented and stretched his style more. It just didn’t connect how it was supposed to. I think for a lot of reasons outside of his control
came out same time as DAMN
The thumbnail 😂😂
The reason people dislike the song or the move isn’t because of Hip Hop itself-we all love the culture. Many of us champion lyricism and are tired of what Hip Hop has become. But the issue lies in selective competition. He didn’t go after the South, Philly, or even Drake. Instead, he targeted Hitta, Doechii, SZA, Kendrick, and the West Coast. That’s why nobody respects it, and why none of them will respond.
We call them fans when they fail to grasp the nuances of competition in Hip Hop. They hide behind the idea that “bro is bringing bars back” because they can’t imagine a world where this wasn’t about igniting real competition. It wasn’t. This was about riding the coattails of a beef he wasn’t even involved in within a genre that has largely forgotten about him.
Call it what it is: a weak move. A New York Young Thug moment from someone who isn’t even the king of his own city, let alone a leader of the new school.
I would call that the opposite of a weak move. Why beat a dead horse?
@@LeKidderface they mean he did enough to be talked about and get attention, but knowing it would not elicit a response
hes just tryingh to get another kendrivk album
If it works I appreciate his sacrifice p
Can't blame him I guess 🤷🏽
Just watched your video and yes that was a nice breakdown of him and his music. I will definitely have to go back and listen to it.
Glad you enjoyed!
More artists we both like. not surprised. good shit.
Y’all ain’t a real Joey fans unless u know where that he’s use that bar before.
The thumbnail LMAO
You ny fav industry plant frfr 🌹
Exactly. Finally a real Take and not Straight MeatRiding. Same people writing off Joey for no reason were Drake Stans before Kendrick challenged and Defeated him.
It’s so funny how a lot of people keep saying he dissed Kendrick. Like obviously this was not a diss, it’s more in vain of Kendrick’s control verse
I don’t think it’s reasonable for just any rapper to compete with Kendrick at this point he’s like the final boss they would really have to earn it. But would be nice to see some more regional competition between rappers and what might come of it and who might emerge from it.
You don't get to underperform your whole career (since 1999) and only be talked about for your potential and think you can take a shot at the top guy. It doesn't work like that. Does his borough even know he is the king? No one's saying he can't rap... but he isn't relevant. He ain't better than Cole.
"To be the best you, you challenge the best" - Nas
CONDUCTOR 🗣 this is bro's second beat for a kendrick diss track 😭
I love Joey and all his albums especially AAB, but if he wants to come at someone he needs to come harder than this.
It’s funny because as this conversation went online this week, I didn’t know who this person was and I am from NY… however upon listening to the discussions and reading the comments… this young man came out when I was away in college and was basically pulling away from rap music/hip hop… I am from the “ole school” of hip hop and this newer generation of music isn’t necessarily for me… but among listening to the different perspectives on YT.. I can’t be mad at him for taking a shot at trying to get the current NY hip hop artist back on the map. Go NY, Go NY , Go!! Because I am not going to lie… my playlist of recent iTunes purchases are ALL of KL (new & old), KW (definitely disappointed in Vultures 2…👎🏽) and Sza… no lie!! 🙌🏽
Joey makes great music! Glad all this lead you to a new artists I agree I’m glad he did it
@ Yes, that is what everyone keeps saying.. that he makes good music. I will definitely have to check out his catalog and whatever upcoming projects he has coming out. As he better drop soon being that he said what he said!! It would not be wise if he didn’t!! All eyes are watching to see what’s next. Capitalize on the opportunity and momentum…!
You are my spirit animal. I had the same exact experience and have the same exact playlist 😂
I love that hip hop has competition!! But after hearing Joey Bada$$ “diss” I just wonder did people really like it..? Or is it bc he’s dipping his toe in the Kendrick beef. No commercial song, maybe this will be his way to get the mainstream song. But no, that song wasn’t special, it’s just bc someone is coming to the Boogeyman
Idk… I feel like what he’s trying to do is just say that he’s going give his best shot at competing with the west. I don’t think it’s really an actual diss towards the west as in it coming from an actual place of spite or anything. He wants the east to do as well as the west or even do better not the west do worse. I don’t see this as an actual Kendrick diss in the way the people are saying it is I think it’s just competition but people are acting like Joey hates Kendrick and that’s definitely not true. I’m definitely not interested in a back and forth between the two I’d rather just have them go crazy on a song together. I do think the song at times and under a certain view point feels like someone complaining about not having a title they haven’t properly earned (similar to lil Wayne’s Super Bowl situation). But I just chose to look at it as competitive energy in the spirit of classic hip hop which is where joeys heart always has been. Sorry for the essay.
I agree, no need to apologize
The disregard that Summer Knights gets really breaks my heart, this is unpopular but I rate it over '99...
My top three has always been Kenny, Joey and Cole
The timing isn't it right.😅😅
So when is the right time ?
J Cole went harder on that beat.
I feel like king of NY is at a point where the king is either Joey or Rocky and props to both of them, theyre both legends but thats week! Wth is going on? NY is being destroyed by Atlanta, LA, even Florida got a claim to being better than NY😂 Buffalo carrying rn
I think he would be better on more aggressive beats
As good as 1999 and b4.da.$$ are… am i the only one that thinks all amerikkkan bada$$ is his best body of work? Or maybe its just my favorite idk
K Dot isn't going to respond to Joey! He's not worth it
Plus Dot has always liked Joey
He hasn't respond in years just listen killuminati pt2 by joey and you will check your facts lmao
@@alanmorales1500 Why would he respond to a guy he didn't name? LOL
@_NoHandle_ In his song Control Kendrick say he was the king of NY and Joey respond with killuminati pt2 which Kendrick never respond
@@alanmorales1500I know a lot of NY & East coast rappers got pissed but did u actually take that bar seriously? I always thought he was just talk isssh but Maybe its just
Thank you! People are talking like Kendrick would just dog walk Joey & that’s not the case at all ! It’ll be an uphill battle but I believe Joey has what it takes to stand toe to toe with K. Dog lyrically
Out of interest, who do you think is the current king of New York? Honestly I think Nas may have reclaimed it at the age 50 with those recent albums, no one else really has the output at that quality to compete imo
Nas
I liked the song but he should be careful about dissing the west coast
Hip hop is sport
Yes indeed
Purely off legacy and impact,the ruler of NY is ASAP ROCKY no debate
W video!
Broh thinks he's he's possessed by steez
I wonder if the roof hes on in b4dass cover is it the same roof as waves music video
Badass isn’t even in the top 15 in New York let alone the East Coast 😂😂😂. The man literally works for 50 as an actor and he’s still mediocre at that 😂😂
I got faith in Joey. I dont see him getting straight bodied by Kendrick. Especially if its on some competitive shit n Kendrick not digging shit up to end him like he did ol boy 😂. If they keep it just rap, perhaps everybody walks away in a better position. Hell even if Kendrick doesnt respond but Ab Soul does, that'll be a dope look for both of them
I think we get a sub 1 bar at best from Kendrick on this.
Yo dawg, you have righteous minds and snakes swapped. Snakes was first and Righteous Minds was second
How tf did I not notice that
@_FLWRS I'm shocked that I was the first to point it out
Conductor is cosplay as alchemist. As far as Joey. You can be the king of New York sellin 20k. Ok beat. Cute song. Mid lyrics. Yao Ming bars stop it blood
Cosplay alchemist is so disrespectful 😭
@ being honest and disrespectful in a creative way is part of my charm. He has a alc affiliate but just ran with his style. The way he does is in a way as to appear innovate like we never hear an alc beat. It’s musical plagiarism at best
Checkout Sur Le Pont d’Avignon by Mach-Hommy, I feel Conductors work is much more inspired with him or Griselda members
@ I agree. I am a big Benny the butcher fan.
@@robthegod1 yeah I feel like this Joey song, 7 Minute Drill and the new sleepy Drake freestyle weren’t Conductor’s best work
Kendrick os not worried about joey lol yhey gonna be a rap war between them
When dot disses people the call it competition but soon as someone disses dot yall quick to say they want attention.
Joey's is not a worthy competitor he's not at that level, so he's gonna get ignored rightly so
What did he do now
Don’t forget odd future Flatbush zombies
Never forget them
i thought the king of new York was Alex the lion
In the past, 50 had said the King of NY was that 69 character.
I like Joey but this was mid af.. NY been lost for too long they gotta come harder than this
East been better anyways, generationally speaking
I like Joey, I like this track but….be fr
I wish he would have cpme with something else. The beat was hollow and he had way too many lines for other people. The clearcut Kendrick subliminals and Calling out the west in his current form is goofy and premature.
I think he was callin out his own city. Saying they need to step it up
_Looking forward to your take as always FLWRS_ 🫶🏾🌹
I appreciate TRB for the sentiment it was
and it being in the spirit of competition,
BC every region need to plant their Flag...THIS is HIP-HOP!!