Bedard Is Great, But This Deserves More Attention...
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- Nhl highlights 2024 - Connor bedard chicago blackhawks is the favorite for the calder trophy as the bedard goals and points are there and luke hughes brock faber are also in the mix. The minnesota wild vs chicago blackhawks kirill kaprizov goal matchup gave credence to another interesting storyline. Nhl rookie of the year 2024 connor bedard brock faber - For coverage including recaps reactions and occasional breakdowns of nhl highlights today , hockey news and rumors, rankings predictions and picks (got one coming this month), team/player profiles some of which have been connor bedard highlights and of course nhl playoffs 2024 which start soon. Nhl hockey today
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Lmfao. Faber’s been playing so well that I didn’t know he was a rookie until I saw this video
Well he's 3 year older and plays on a much better team
@@carines8995 wasn’t talking about the wunderkind
@@carines8995you mean the wild that aren’t in the playoffs?
@KAS0605 and? Still a 100x better team.
Bedard literally has zero real nhl talent with him.
@@Gl-my8fw bedard also should have more points he’s first line center and a forward faber is a defender and remind me the score and how many goals Bedard has when they played the wild? Faber and brodin shit him down 🥱 easy
The 10,000BC joke made me laugh out loud. Thanks for all the vids!
Just about to remark it as well but ya beat me to it🫡😊
As a recently developing hockey fan, learning more about the players on my favorite team (go wild) especially the young ones is awesome so cheers!
Manny Fernandez
ive always felt like stats are just one part of the story when it comes to how good a player is. ask the goalies who should win. if anyone knows who the best players are its the goalies. they see everything. i played net and its very obvious when certain players step on for a line change your good to chill for a second and when others step on you know its game time. you develop a sixth sense for this kinda stuff
Faber is also from the draft after jack Hughes and is 22 years old with better teamates
Bedard has hype around him since last year. People have to consider Faber’s impact right now.
Play for a shit team and toss points up like it’s nothing. Use your head man
@@rhythm_design it’s easy to have more points in garbage team when there is no any pressure on your team.. Especially if you’re first center of your team and your teammates always are trying to find you for passing.. Faber are really more consistent player right now. Bedard is awful on 5-on-5. He just forgot about defensive aspect of game. He is allowed to do whatever he wants on the ice. Think about it
@@LizardChameleon You could not be more wrong. Bedard gets all of the attention from opposing teams since he is the Hawks only threat. He goes up against top shutdown lines every game and he is just a bit below a point per game as an 18 year old. He obviously isn't great defensively but it has a lot to do with the fact that he is the only guy on his team who can produce offensively so he needs to make certain sacrifices defensively. At 5v5, Hawks are -26 in goal differential when Bedard is on the ice. When he isn't on the ice, they're -57. He is not the problem.
@@LizardChameleonSo I can see you are new to hockey and a fan girl of the wild ( or mild as we all call them) . First off welcome to hockey. Greatest game ever! Secondly the points you are making up are really… well.. moronic. Being a center on a team that hasn’t been able to give you support is much harder. 5 on 5 Bedard numbers have been fine. Bedard also has shown he’s a good back checker (Faber had two turnovers to Bedard last game). In 4 years when Bedard catches Faber in age, chances are he’ll be in a Cup run and possibly lifting Lord Stanley. Meanwhile Faber stuck on a team trying to work out of a cap hit mess. Happens. Chicago had 5 players with huge cap hits and are just now recovering. Anyway welcome to puck…and pro tip: avoid posting stupid comments like you did…dead give away you’re a noobie😂
Faber should at least be considered in the voting, but he does have considerably more of a line-up to work with and the advantage of 3 years in the Minors to hone his skills, hence the trust for TOI. The Fire Sale in Chicago last year in pursuit of Bedard gutted the team and the GM did little to provide him any kind of a supporting cast! Bedard came straight in as an underweight 18 year old with no real protection from his team, but he still finds open ice and scores or sets up his teammates. Faber has 4 players on his team with more points than Bedard. Bedard has the most points on his team playing 14 fewer games. Good points for discussion and consideration, but I still think Bedard is your winner.
Davidson actually did provide Bedard with a better supporting cast. Unfortunately, they were so injury-riddled from the get-go at both the NHL and AHL levels, that they were forced fill out their roster with guys they claimed off of waivers. Almost every guy on the roster wound up on the IR at some point. A lot of them at the same time. They lost Taylor Hall for the entire season, and Corey Perry got himself fired. As for Bedard's size, he's the same height as Patrick Kane, and outweighs Kane by 10 pounds. I'm not hearing anyone calling Kane "underweight." The kid is built like a fire plug.
Great video! Thanks for the call out! Wish ESPN was this good ...
It's really hard to guage these things because they are all needed for different reasons.
Hockey literally is a team sport. That is comprised of skill, luck and being at the right place at the right time.
I feel like Faber has gotten a lot of attention but it's not even a race Bedard is by far the best rookie this season and his rookie season is right up there with Matthews and McDavid's rookie year. In another year Faber would definitely have a good shot like last year but the Calder doesn't determine your career and I'm sure Faber will go on to have a great 1 for himself
love your vids bro
As a diehard Hawks fan... that is a ridiculous Dman rookie pace. I know Bedardmania will play a part in the end but Faber... man thats a hard call dude hit the ice hot
Bedard is 18, Faber is 21. Some of the biggest years for player development, I think that's what will give bedard the edge.
Like Faber is a stud, but Bedard is doing a bit better, on a worse team, and much younger, I'd say he edges out
@@thejfk_experience490 good pts all of em! I was thinking since he was a 2nd round pick that flipped teams asap he had an underdog card working for him but yea, 18 and on the Hawks right now is rough no matter how you slice it, he's a unit.
@@thejfk_experience490 Calder Trophy is an award for the best rookie, not for the youngest one
@@thejfk_experience490 in hockey it is easy to have more points in garbage team when you are surrounded by less talented players.. Despite the age.. There is no pressure on Bedard. He is allowed to do what he wants.. So one of the worst +/- in the league. Even in comparison to his teammates
Your forgetting the wild had no choice but to play him that many minutes…and really, it’s only 3-4 shifts a game. Not much when you roll only 3 d lines. Stamina is no factor of voting on the Calder. Bedard also averaged 3:00 plus more ice time than average rook. (19:45)
In that trade with the Kings, the Wild also got a first in 2022 who had 19 points in 26 games in SEL. Which isn't too bad either for a young player in a men's league.
Ohgren, and wild just called him up so he might play against Vegas
Bedard has has a really good first season but faber just stands out more to me hes played crazy good playing 25+ min a game
He probably could win it but bedard is a god with the puck. He will get scoring titles but Brock probably won’t get a Noris in his time. Give the kid the Calder and make his career
great vid. sick goal.
Faber has been fantastic, Id still have to give it to Bedard if he had good players around him he would be so amazing. That ice time for a rookie is crazy definitely will be a star in a couple years.
Fabes definitely deserves more consideration. It's not just his TOI but his level of defensive play at the age of 21. From the Frozen four final right into the playoffs last season. Incredible. But the Bedard for Calder hype train has left the station and it's not stopping for anyone else.....
Currently waiting for more playoff race videos
Bedard has so much hype around him that it will be the main reason why people wont vote for someone else, maybe that will change but 25TIM is CRAAAAZY for such young age and people should consider Fabs!
Alex vlasic plays on the top D pairing with Seth jones and plays 21 mins a night as a rookie defeceman in Chicago lol doesn’t mean he’s good
@SnapshotMC94 Alex Vlasic has actually been one of the best defensive defensemen in the NHL this season. His 5v5 stats are through the roof against the toughest matchups. The athletic just wrote a whole article on him.
1 team almost made the playoffs, the other is fighting the Sharks to see who is the worst of the worst since November. They are in different leagues of rookie. Luke Evangelista is even more impactful on the Preds.
u also gotta realize, if bedard wasnt on the team, they would be the undisputed worst team in the league. bedard pretty much has an impact on every goal the hawks score. without him this year they would have less than 12 wins rn
As a wild fan I fully expect Bedsy to claim that Calder. But had Connor not been drafted this year, seeing how much better Faber is compared to a healthy Jared Spurgeon, Brock Faber would be my Calder favorite
Ovechkin looked 35 in his rookie year, like in Russia must be hard
You also need to look at the Team around the Player. Faber is a stud, but the Wild are a significantly better roster than the Hawks. I firmly believe that he would not be this successful if he had to manage the blueline for the Hawks this year. This is coming from a diehard Hawks fan, but the evidence is plain to see. Bedard is the more impactful rookie as he has less around him and produces at an exceptionally high level
Look guys, I get it. You can throw out plus minuses (Which is funny because someone just mentioned how Lemieux was a minus 33 in his rookie season) and the fact that Faber is a stud all you want, but Bedard is legit the entire reason the hawks have much of an offence xD. Yeah, they aren't winning all that much yet. But that's what happens when your entire team is literal trash outside of a few players.
Faber is looking to be an amazing d-man, but that doesn't change just how much impact Bedard's gonna have on his team and the league when they get just a few more guys to fill out that roster.
It will be 1. Bedard 2. Hughes 3. Kotchetov 4. Faber The ice time really isn’t a factor. But by the way Bedard is averaging 19:45 ice time… far more than any rookie forward. Check out NHLedge to get a real idea of how dominant Bedard really is.
If he was with the ducks him and Terry would be such a good duo like I wish bro they both would of got 100 points this season
There's another late bloomer of a D that never gets mentioned in this convo : Jayden Struble. Way way more of an underdog than Faber and Bedard ever were at the start of the season (which he started in the AHL) and still, he did so well after being called up he's been with the team ever since: 52 gp, 3 goals, 5 assists, +/- of only -5 (to put it into perspective David Savard is -4 in 55 games, Mike Matheson is at -27 in 77gp).
Vlasic for Calder and Norris
I’m sorry wild fans. Faber is a stud and probably will be for years to come but It’s bedards trophy all day long. I’m a Habs fan btw. If those players swapped teams faber would be a nobody and bedard would have closer to 100 points. Faber is surrounded by talent and bedard is the talent in Chicago. When bedard has an off game the entire team has an off game. To be 18 and be nearly a PPG on a team as bad as the hawks there is no question what he would be able to do when he’s on a team full of nhlers. Don’t get me wrong faber would win it any other year if bedard weren’t a rookie but bedard is just on another level
exactly what i was going to say + bedard missed 14 games
This, couldn’t say it any better. Look at the Hawks record & PPG during Betsy’s 14 game injury. Kid has a crazy impact on the game.
@@Ferd_Turgeson the hawks went from averaging just over 1 goal a game in his absence to over 2 goals since his return. He’s in on over 60% of the hawks offence
-38 😂
@@garyindiana8075 that’s your argument? Lol Mario Lemieux was a -33 his rookie season. Get outta here 😂
Brock faber is fantastic but he is also 21 years old playing for the wild a little easier then being 18 on the Blackhawks
Just to point out that Luke and Brock are a few years older and it's quite obvious on their physical development side of things. Although they are rookies, only one of them is straight out of high school.
HOT TAKE: Hughes is even the best rookie defensman on Devils. I have a better feeling about Nemec
Love Chicago but I would like to see bedard play with a team that isn’t objectively ad
FABER FOR THE CALDER
If you take into account the teams that there both on too. It’s still bedard by a long shot in my eyes. Yes he’s a d man but bedards a few years younger and on arguably the worst team in the league and still producing. Not taking anything away from Faber, it’s incredible what he’s doing. But what bedard has done it’s clear for me
Do more videos on Minnesota
Brock is having a better rookie season
Honestly that +2 damn and keeping pace on assists with that ice time.
I gotta say... I would vote for him over my fellow Canadian...
As a Former defenseman your stats can look under whelming when out against a forward. But when you look at the value added... I like Faber.
I did not even know he was a rookie...
Faber for Calder, Bedard is dust
Your brain has gone to dust
Bedard is still a lock but this makes me realize i’ve never really gauged how good faber or luke hughes are defensively
It is really hard to compare but I'd honestly say Faber should win it. I don't think people realize how impressive it is in your first year to just slot into a playoff contending franchise as the NUMBER 1 defenseman and excel as well as Faber has. I don't think any current #1 defenseman in the league ever did what Faber is doing for the Wild rn. (correct me if I'm wrong tho)
Well, only correction I'd have to make is that the wild might not contend in the playoffs. Looking like they won't get in this year
Faber
for the win !
Ima tell yall this. Wild sabres 2029 cup final. Wild and hawks in the WCF and sabres and Canadiens in the ECF or Carolina
Kaprizov is the new datsyuk
Faber would get my vote but it will be close
Faber is having himself a great season.. but bedard all the way for calder. Faber is 3 years older, played NHL games last season, and is on generally a better team. If there was a defensive rookie of the year I would 100% say Faber gets that
Great video. The better player is the player that can play both ends of the rink in their respective roll. The +/- reflects the difference in team player skill.
However, Bedard is the 'new generational talent' supposedly. He will get differential treatment, especially to keep Chicago fans in the arena.
If Bedard wins, it's not because he is only 18, it will be because they are trying to keep interest in a struggling franchise. It's obvious who the better player is.
I’d vote faber
60 pts in the NHL at 18yrs old is just insane
my be a pro is laughing at you
Go look at the Hawks offense with Bedard vs without. The team around Bedard is so bad that it's even more impressive that he scored as much as he has. Faber has support from better players and Bedard has no one else on his level or better.
As a hawks die hard. Faber is the only person who can win the Calder trophy over Bedard and I would not be unhappy .
I love Faber to death, but someone else that hasn't gotten much attention is Wallstedt. Dude had a shutout in that game.
Wall stud
Point per game
It was preordained that Bedard would win the Calder, but there's no doubt Faber has been the better player.
I've been saying this in Calder convos. Faber is doing a harder job then Bedard. Being a topline dman on a team that was close to a playoff contender, rather then top center on a terrible team. As one just needs to put up points while the other has to be actually effective defensively, and play huge minutes, plus pointing up the points to go with that. Faber has had a more impactful first season for his team
No he hasn’t man lol
Its so much harder to be a defenceman in the NHL they definitely do NOT get the respect they deserve unless they have Quinn Hughes or Cale Makar point seasons. Only true hockey fans, players and especially fellow defenceman understand the difficulty and skill it takes to be one of only a few in the NHL.
Fabre for Norris.
The difference for me is Faber is a phenomenal young dman but players on a decent blue line with some vets, Bedard is in a tire fire with little to no help offensively, he IS their offense. One guy is a key peice on his team and position, the other is the only piece lol
+2
what about Rossi
the hills have eyes?
Kaprizov has more career pts/game than any active player except Crosby, Mcdavid and Draisaitl. Best in Minnesota’s history? He’s already proving one of the best in the league - absolute sleeper in hockey media.
Bedard SHOULD be getting a ton of points. Faber is a much more complete player. He defends very well, scores a lot of points for a defenseman and plays a ton of minutes. I lean towards Faber.
No bedard should not be getting lots of points. Not many NHL players could produce on that terrible hawks roster
Has a rookie ever won the Norris?
10000B.C 😂
Bedard is only 18?!?! Jesus Christ I was still a virgin when I was 18 and this kid is a professional hockey player 🤣
they could line up on one end of the ice, blow a whistle and have them sprint to the trophy on the other end. winner gets it. Then it's REALLY a calder race.
Faber wins that one easy
Faber also doesn’t play for the Blackhawks…. I mean; idk dude 😂
And does Faber have his numbers if hes on the Sharks this season? no.
We all need to get used to the idea that the NHL is the Bedard show now. The league built a lot of marketing around him before he even stepped foot in the United Centre. Although he will almost certainly win the Calder, Faber has had the better season.
My boys getting another winter classic because of Bedard-mania makes the blow land a bit softer
Faber is not having the better season and I’m a habs fan
Faber is a rookie but he's 21. Luke is still a teenager. Hughes family blows my mind.
I like how everyones argument is that faber is 21 and bedard is 18 😂. Its like panarin never should of won because he was 26. Panarin beat out a mcdavid ffs. Bedard shouldnt win the calder
1) Bedard on a al team
2) Faber has the likes of Kiril the thril and Eriksson ask
3) Bedard is 18 years old
Bedard is -38 and the Wild isn’t a super team there not even making the playoffs
Thanks for another good video. Can you do one commenting on the significance of Bedard's horrble plus/minus? I mean, it is a weird stat, but having 59 points on the season and still be -38 is still odd, right? And it's not like he's constantly playing against the top line of the opposition - Dickinson seems to do his fair share of that.
Compare it to a player like Victor Wembanyama who is also on a crap team that made themselves as bad as possible to win the draft lottery. The Spurs are losing and losing - but when Wemby is on the court he is a stud at both ends and most definitely not a minus player.
Bro we are SHIT! Put faber in the hawks bud isn’t getting close to 40pts. Put bedsy on the wild he dropping 70
Who's got the better team around them right now. I rest my case.
Exactly, Bedard’s the on man show
Bedard missed 14 games
"Faber is a defensemen" Exactly, and that was the missing piece of that comparison. There isn't a GM alive that would take Faber over Bedard, but Faber is that new breed of offensive defensemen like Makar, Hughes, Dobson, Fox, Bouchard, etc
Faber will not reach the levels of any you mentioned
Lol no. Faber is 4 years older and on a much better team.
Faber is on a lot better team as well so it gives him an advantage there
I dont like this argument put Faber on the Hawks he doesnt impact them like Bedard is. Faber is on a team that is just going to miss the playoffs.
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Connor Bedard is easily winning the calder trophy it Shouldn’t be a discussion. Faber and Hughes are having great rookie seasons, but they are defensemen and it is really hard to win the Calder as defensemen. Also the NHL votes on points then production on the ice for who wins.
Might be slight bias as a wild fan but faber imo is better. Bedard was so hyped up he wins the calder by name alone. Hes a generational talent and one might say living up to the hype but hes not great defensively. Hes not a good all around player, yet. Faber is. Defense always gets over looked for flashy goals. Its sad Faber had to come into the league same time as Bedard or it would be him running away with the title.
Give it to luke or brock. Bedard is going to get it for namesake alone at this point
L take
Bedard is going to get it because he’s a point a game at 18 years old lol put down the pipe dude. If the players swapped teams faber would be a nobody and bedard would be nipping a 100 point pace
@@SnapshotMC94 cant say i agree
Look at erik karlsson on the sharks vs on a playoff contender
@@newjerseyfan101 what about him? Lol
people some how also forget bedard is on a team that waaaaay worse than the wild so theres also that and nobody seems to bring that up but it effects a rookie season greatly.
Bedard should win it if not for the injury he would have a 70+ point season
It's gotta be Bedard, just his impact on the sport alone and all the attention he's bringing to it.. But yeah in an unbiased world it's neck and neck
In an unbiased world it’s not neck and neck lol I’m a Habs fan and it’s bedards trophy
Pretty sure they give him the attention.
you should compare their WAR stats too. Lol. Bedard blows Faber away there
Faber is on a much better team which inflates his stats vs Bedard.
This one isn't close. Bedard is the easy rookie of the year.
That doesn't take anything from Faber.
It is what it is.
-38 says everything you need to know about who should win the Calder.
-38 speaks volumes on the caliber of teams. Faber would be a nobody on the hawks
cope anyway you’d like pal.
Bedard in 3 years will have TRIPLE the points a year than Faber
I don’t think bedard is half as good as the talk all I heard this offseason was about the kid I don’t think he deserves the calder
Oh ya. A point per game at 18 on the worst team in the league lmfao no big deal. Faber wouldn’t even be relevant if he didn’t have kaprisov, boldy or erik
@@SnapshotMC94 -38...in other words, he's on the ice getting scored on more than he's scoring. Faber went from NCAA to the NHL and runs the back end for the Wild with Spurgeon out.
@@Siouxfan28 lol -38 on a team that’s almost -100 on the season. Mario Lemieux was a -33 his rookie season. If faber were on the hawks he would be a minus lol Fuck outta here with those plus minus statsBedard went right from juniors to the NHL at 18? More impressive Lol
@@SnapshotMC94 he doesn’t even have a point per game😂
@@gabrielflorian9120 lol oh shoot sorry, 59 points in 63 games. He’s a bust
Bedard will win it because its connor bedard. They could care less who is actually the better player. Faber is better than bedard
Lmfao get outta here
but bedard isn't even fully developed yet at 18... Imagine him at 21.
Faber is also on a playoff contending team while bedard is carrying a team at 18
Brock fiber sucks ass. Bedard has to carry the hawks team. Brock fiber is on a team with solid supporting cast
Add this to the proof Johnny hawkey is a clown
Bedatd will do shat...he is too small
He's the same height as Patrick Kane, and outweighs Kane by 10 pounds. That whole "too small" thing worked out fine for Kane. Bedard will be at least as good as him. He's already passed Kane in their rookie goals--in fewer games. And, on a far less talented team.
Easy. Faber for Calder. Bedard will become a great player but he sucks at the moment.
Lmfao what?
@@SnapshotMC94 Faber is reliable NHL caliber player, Bedard is glass cannon makes tons of mistakes. lol rofl uwu? Bedard will most likely become the better player but when isolating only the rookie season the better player is Faber. Anything else?