West coast people listen to everything. From all regionals. We also have created mad styles. From the Bay to LA. And we can adapt. People were definitely Krumping to Pump it up. And west coast songs definitely go up in strip clubs world wide. DJ Hed sound like he stuck. Vince definitely hit it on the nail. When artist came to LA they definitely get the sauce.
@@slumdogrio Too Short used to. ATL controls their radio and clubs. They don't really play out of towners like other places who don't have the same control over what's played.
@ Lmfaoo bruh I’m FROM Atlanta, born and bred. You talking about an individual that lived in the City in the early 90s for a SHORT period of time. You ain’t qualified to speak on my City. West coast music did not get play in our booty clubs my guy. Cut it out
@@slumdogrio yg tyga had strip club anthems that they played in ATL they got music with artist out there. You lying if you saying “rack city” never got played at Magic City.
I don't think most of the people in the comments listened to the entire conversation. yall just heard the question and went to typing. Dj Head starts explaining why he asked that question at 1:26 gives examples of songs that are not west cost songs but are being categorized as one because of a high BPM at 1:41 tells you the history/origin of west cost music so you can have a better understanding of what west cost music sounds like at 2:08 then goes on to say he doesn't believe this narrative, that is being said from the listeners of hip hop and the artist in the genre, that those songs are west cost records and that's how you can tell. Either yall didn't pay attention or yall tryna put smut upon his name.
The reason people disagree is because no one has ever alluded to the narrative that he proposed and responded to about 104+ bpm hip hop being categorized as West Coast sonically-adjacent music. It came off as genuinely out of place. Like, weird technical music analysis flex, but okay. As a music lover, I myself can appreciate this kind of unique perspective. But, the average person just isn't that musically savvy nor invested to discern bpms, and are far more likely to simply associate something like a P funk sample with West Coast hip hop. It was very random and not even in a loaded "gotcha" kind of way, it was just far left of field. It also seems like Joe was really being a good sport in keeping the conversation from falling flat because he respects him. If some random dude proposed that, I believe they'd have gotten him up out of there and the entire spaces would have playfully dog-piled him before ultimately muting homie and changing the topic. I'll just speak for myself, I haven't heard that narrative and wouldn't apply such a broad and vague claim and idk what regular person is saying that on the street.
@@SkyHiGradtrw obviously he has heard ppl say it which is why he asked the question. And because he's a respected figure that's why Joe allowed the conversation. It ain't that deep.
@SkyHiGradtrw How could it come off as out of place if it's the first thing he brought up? And everybody has experienced hearing a crazy statement from a few people, but when you ask the people you know about what you've been hearing, they normally respond in a shocked or confused manner. But DJ Head did say he's hearing this in music spaces, and he also claimed offset said that which doesn't hold much validity lol, but he's an artist in hip-hop. DJ Head is a DJ, hip hop radio host, and hip hop podcast co-host, so he's properly in spaces where he hears all types of rumors and talking points develop b4 it becomes a popular topic. Also, he is mainly on the west cost where this theory is probably coming from to prop up the west, and we know how people love to claim things that had nor have anything to do with them, so I saw it as him doing research to see how far this theory has gone. But hey, he could be on some BS it didn't sound like it to me, though. Maybe offset will put out a statement to clear things up 😆
That’s not what he said at all. He said he’s hearing conversations where songs with a similar tempo, not even songs that sound similar, just songs with the same beats per minute, were west coast records.
I can arguably say that pump it up is one of the best dance songs for dance battles and things of that nature in the mid 2000s... for an example B2K dance to this in their movie (you got served) which just so happened to take place in “ Los Angeles California”.. I never considered it West or east coast always been a dance record to me…
Another thing.. just blaze produced the record who would be considered an East Coast producer as far as the sound and there were other songs he had with the same range and same pocket PUMP IT UP - Joe Budden Flipside - freeway ROC the mic - Beanie sigel What we do - freeway Just to name a few
It's not and never will be.its seems we giving west coast more credit than they deserve or they seem to be asking for more credit ironically with the resurgence of the west 🤔🤔✊🏿
I don't think he was calling the song that. He was wondering has anyone considered it that because of the bpm because it seems that some ppl attribute a songs bpm to whether or not it's a Westcoast record. I don't think he's trying to claim it is.
Anybody who knows, Master P will tell you himself, that he was inspired by how the independent artist from the Bay. And Joe is diabolical for letting that “Joe started the hyphy movement” line go
It seems West Coast is trying to get more credit than they deserve when they get paid homage enough.lol bro y'all need to get some one else to rep y'all coast Vince cool but he have no objectivity who cares about bpms too much d licking going on for real they literally trying to sell that to us
@ what "more credit" are they asking for? Vince spoke facts. Especially in regards to Master P. I promise you it don't take nothing but a simple search in the search bar.
Thats a stupid question and I doubt anybody saying the tempo makes it a regional record, in most cases. Its definitely the pattern, swing, cadence and instruments that make it a specific regional sound. Like the whistle is a west coast thing. The 808 is a southern thing. The kick (no bass) is an east coast thing.
Mac Dre, not E40.. No disrespect, cause I was listening to E40 before, but Mac Dre started the hyphy. 2000 - 2001. Joe, that show in Oakland...ya already know. P.S. I'm from Vallejo, CA 80's baby 707
P gave credit to that.that had Yukmouth feeling some way too I'm pretty sure you know about that situation.if you wanna be real the south sound in the early-mid 90's(Rap-A-Lot &Suave House ,No-Limit) was highly inspired by the Northern/Bay area sound✊🏿✊🏿
@@BeautiButBeasttthe bay is nothing but people that migrated from the south that is the connection so to say the south got its sound from the bay is idiocy
What’s with all this he smoking sherm nonsense people that smoke sherm not just running around saying stupid shyt it’s some people with a tolerance that enjoy getting dipped out and function better than these pot head goofies walking around like zombies
The new west coast tempo is derived from the “jerkin” dance movement in LA *pause. Early DJ Mustard made a lot of the beats that people rapped over to dance to, thats why it seems the new sound is all his production/tempo. YG was big in the movement too. If you were there you know.
Absolutely, mustard cut his teeth at them jerkin functions and yg used to make jerkin music, my whole jerkin crew used to see them in the early functions here in LA back in 09-10
Mustard did get some influence from the Bay sound. That's why he had issues at one point because he didn't give any credit to a sound he some how copied but also added to it. Mike Mosley, Rick Rock, E A Ski, that mob sound was first. But we all West Coast and they hate when we have the game. West West yall
Makes absolutely no sense. BPM doesn't determine the regional sound of a record. west coast records are usually labeled based on the swing and musical texture of the instrumental. Westcoast records tend to be more stripped down and minimalist production VS more abundant and instrumentally heavy beats. makes no sense.
@imayhaveadhd parliament/funkadelic (DC, and north jersey), cameo (NYC), Ohio players, slave, Zapp, lakeside, roger troutman, all from ohio originally. Faze-O. Gap band from Tulsa.
Vince showing knowledge of the West. 100% No limit started in the Bay and P will say it. S*** I remember when Yuck was going a P for Ice Cream man song. But for Vince to know bout the history like that and he might not have even been double digits in age shows the west be knowing bout the music movements in Cali because a lot of our musicians be getting hated on everywhere else. We got a lot Cali music Stars were they should be up there on top artist back in the day. Just glad artist are calling out the west hate against them, of course all will have some bias for there style just seems the west gets the most hate and forgot bout styles they have contributed to music
When Mustard's Sound, Which Most Of The Time was Between 95-100 BPMs Crossed Over It Became The "National Hip Hop" Sound... Then Top 40 Acts Made Their Renditions of It. Example : Iggy's "Fancy"
“Mustard’s” sound happens to have changed from Fred wreck or battlecat-ish (LA) to a more P-Lo or Droop-E (Bay) style production. You can go through his discography and definitely hear how his style changed…
Shout-out to Joe for being a forefather of the hyphy sound his groundbreaking smash record" Pump It Up" laid the foundation for the Bay Area to create another movement in the early to the mid 2000s Joe doesn't get enough credit for being an Originator and a trend setter big jersey 👑🎤🔥🔥🔥🔥
I like Joe Budden initial response to DJ Hed with this west coast question. DJ Hed must be having convos with bots or something. That west coast bpm shit was stupid.
14:13 The point went over their head… DJ Hed used “Pump it Up” as an example of a sound that is clearly not West coast (even Joe the creator states it is not)but falls into the BPM range that people are incorrectly classifying a as West Coast record. Comprehension is at an all time low.
People talk about things they know nothing about and sound so misinformed. DJ Hed and Vince literally were saying facts and those other people were going off feelings-outside of Joe, who's obviously trolling. This is what I hate about music debates, anybody can say anything.
@@camerongonzalez1909 Put you down on my more SOUTHERN BLACK CULTURE, that you know nothing about...Hootie Hoo, Skeeew Uuuuu was a way we would called out to our homeboys when we came outside to find out where they were in the hood
Master P. literally stole the ice cream man concept from The Luniz. The Luniz are from Oakland, CA. Master P definately got a lot of his sauce from The Bay. Facts 💯.
You've only heard of him since the pop out, doesn't mean he hasn't been around or a factor just because you weren't aware. He's been around before Wayne and Birdman turned into Bloods.
Aint nobody ever heard anyone on this planet say Pump It Up is a west coast record. They made that shh up to bait Joe and got mad he ain't fall for it. They wild as shh.
Joe can make fun of the “bpm argument” all he wants but it’s LITERALLY scientifically proven (and I learned this in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL) That the bpm HEAVILY INFLUENCES peoples emotions BASED OFF OF heart rate. MEANING when you get anxious, nervous, scared your Harte rate spikes there’s a certain number same with sadness and anger. Hence why you feel those emotions MORE when listening to songs whose beats live in that range. That’s why the say music is the ONE language EVERYONE can understand
No one on this earth has ever said Pump It Up was a west coast record
They just needed some content 😂. This could’ve been a 2min clip. The answer is no. Done.
Ever!
Thats his point!!
Exactly, pump it up sounds exactly like sum east coast bullshit😂
It’s the tempo . Niggas still krump To it out here lol
Thank you for your blessing us with Vince Staples 😂😂😂😂😂
SHOUT OUT TO VINCE FOR STANDING ON BUSINESS!!!!
Nah fr that would’ve had me hot too
Vince at about 18:00 minutes for those wondering like
shout out to you
Thank you!
Vince wasted no time! Got on him asap…
Like what??? Are you a valley girl saying "like, like yeah like" haha
Blessings
vince told joe we kidnap you, you kno what we do to people out here😭😭😭😭😭
Yo Vince hilarious 😂😂😂
VINCE IS KEEPIN IT REAL!!!!!!!!! From da Bay ... Richmond to be exact, where No Limit stated.. Lets go VINCE!!!
Hed be cryptic and then explain himself not being cryptic, cryptically
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hate when he do ts 😂😂😂
Then try and act like we crazy cuz he never fully explained the idea 😂
He one of the best
I love how Vince Staples handle that. I hate he had to crash out on another Black man but we have to correct foolery when we see it. West Up king!
I’m from the Bay and that was nasty bruh. Joe laughing at a idiot thinking he inspired MacDre. Gtfoh
Reading the title and already knowing Vince was gonna call in made the lead up 100x funnier bruh! 😂😂
Vince funny as hell 🤣🤣 My nigga !! do you smoke sherm???!!!
😂 said it hope you from Hemet 😅
@@rj8860Hemet catching a stray is the most Vince and West Coast thing ever 🤣🤣🤣
I have never heard Vince Staples get hype like that 😂
You have ever gone to his show!
West coast people listen to everything. From all regionals. We also have created mad styles. From the Bay to LA. And we can adapt. People were definitely Krumping to Pump it up. And west coast songs definitely go up in strip clubs world wide. DJ Hed sound like he stuck. Vince definitely hit it on the nail. When artist came to LA they definitely get the sauce.
West coast songs go up in strip clubs??! I’m frm Atlanta, I don’t know a booty club around this mf that play west coast songs
@@slumdogrio Too Short used to. ATL controls their radio and clubs. They don't really play out of towners like other places who don't have the same control over what's played.
@ Lmfaoo bruh I’m FROM Atlanta, born and bred. You talking about an individual that lived in the City in the early 90s for a SHORT period of time. You ain’t qualified to speak on my City. West coast music did not get play in our booty clubs my guy. Cut it out
@@slumdogrio🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@slumdogrio yg tyga had strip club anthems that they played in ATL they got music with artist out there. You lying if you saying “rack city” never got played at Magic City.
I don't think most of the people in the comments listened to the entire conversation. yall just heard the question and went to typing. Dj Head starts explaining why he asked that question at 1:26 gives examples of songs that are not west cost songs but are being categorized as one because of a high BPM at 1:41 tells you the history/origin of west cost music so you can have a better understanding of what west cost music sounds like at 2:08 then goes on to say he doesn't believe this narrative, that is being said from the listeners of hip hop and the artist in the genre, that those songs are west cost records and that's how you can tell. Either yall didn't pay attention or yall tryna put smut upon his name.
They didnt listen
No we heard it. The explanation made it worst. Who the fuck he be having convos with?
The reason people disagree is because no one has ever alluded to the narrative that he proposed and responded to about 104+ bpm hip hop being categorized as West Coast sonically-adjacent music. It came off as genuinely out of place. Like, weird technical music analysis flex, but okay.
As a music lover, I myself can appreciate this kind of unique perspective. But, the average person just isn't that musically savvy nor invested to discern bpms, and are far more likely to simply associate something like a P funk sample with West Coast hip hop. It was very random and not even in a loaded "gotcha" kind of way, it was just far left of field. It also seems like Joe was really being a good sport in keeping the conversation from falling flat because he respects him. If some random dude proposed that, I believe they'd have gotten him up out of there and the entire spaces would have playfully dog-piled him before ultimately muting homie and changing the topic. I'll just speak for myself, I haven't heard that narrative and wouldn't apply such a broad and vague claim and idk what regular person is saying that on the street.
@@SkyHiGradtrw obviously he has heard ppl say it which is why he asked the question. And because he's a respected figure that's why Joe allowed the conversation. It ain't that deep.
@SkyHiGradtrw How could it come off as out of place if it's the first thing he brought up? And everybody has experienced hearing a crazy statement from a few people, but when you ask the people you know about what you've been hearing, they normally respond in a shocked or confused manner. But DJ Head did say he's hearing this in music spaces, and he also claimed offset said that which doesn't hold much validity lol, but he's an artist in hip-hop. DJ Head is a DJ, hip hop radio host, and hip hop podcast co-host, so he's properly in spaces where he hears all types of rumors and talking points develop b4 it becomes a popular topic. Also, he is mainly on the west cost where this theory is probably coming from to prop up the west, and we know how people love to claim things that had nor have anything to do with them, so I saw it as him doing research to see how far this theory has gone. But hey, he could be on some BS it didn't sound like it to me, though. Maybe offset will put out a statement to clear things up 😆
Joe: "i meeeeaaan we gootttaa think" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
*Everyone missed the part where Joe let DJ Hed know that he doesn't care about what he say, but respects Vince thoughts* 😂😂😂
One of the many reasons I’m a fan of Vince staples 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Music from different regions can have similarities, it is what it is. On top of that, there are genres of hip hop that don't really even have a name.
Listening and comprehension is truly becoming a lost art. 🤦🏿♂️🤣🤣🤣
It really is, it’s sad bro people don’t listen to understand tbh I’ve been guilty of that sometimes
I've never heard Vince so mad 😂
“QUICK QUESTION. Do you smoke sherm?” 😂
@@marcmarc21000 Don't forget the "CUZ??!!" That's how you know he was serious 🤣🤣
@@PoLyteOne 😂😂😂 bro rarely raise his voice
Dj Hed memorizing BPM's is crazy 🫡🏆
Real DJs that spin actual records know about that. Most even file their record collections by their BPMs.
Shoe man smoking that shit boy🤣🤣🤣🤣
the only thing that makes pump it up a west coast record is that it was in “You Got Served”.
Hyphy was early 2000s it went mainstream with E40 & Too Short mid 2000s
Hyphy been around way longer than that
Oh really I didn’t know that.
@ Master P lived in Richmond, CA. That's why he showed so much love to the Bay
@@edwardtaylor2651 Yea I know he lived in the Bay Area
@@edwardtaylor2651 the term yes but the music came later
Vince is fucking hilarious!!! 😂😂😂
Highkey need a interview with vince dj Hed and joe
Its this right here
Nahhhhh DJ Hed buggin, not one human being has said pump it up is a west coast record lol
Have you not seen "You Got Served"? I Can See Why He Said That Honestly. I know we was Playing it Tuff on the block my freshman yr
I’ve never heard that
That’s not what he said at all. He said he’s hearing conversations where songs with a similar tempo, not even songs that sound similar, just songs with the same beats per minute, were west coast records.
@@baycharles8328 People don’t listen.
I see you was left behind in school. 😭😭💀🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Vince is THAT DUDE!!!
Vince went crazy
Vince Staples had the perfect intro/response 😂😂😂😂 #WestCoast
Facts
Its the vibe not just the bpm combine them its Westy
@35:48 “Parts of Brooklyn claim Pac too” 💯‼️💙 The part of Brooklyn is called the 90s / 9Ds 💙 #THATpart if you know you know. Love. Bless.
A bunch of terrible takes 😂
I’m open to why U feel they had terrible takes. Can u give a few examples?
@@nicolebabi1314most funk band that sample are midwestern or east coast bands. People dont shit about NYC hip hop history.
I don’t know any east coast funk bands.
@oladeebiazazi4538 cameo, larry Blackmon, parliament, funkadelic, stone city band/rick James, isleys from jersey. Bunch of DC bands.
@ I forgot DC is considered east coast yea ur right
Man starting with is pump it up west coast is wild😂 aint ever heard that in my life
That's the point Hed was making
Vince is hilarious 😂
I can arguably say that pump it up is one of the best dance songs for dance battles and things of that nature in the mid 2000s... for an example B2K dance to this in their movie (you got served) which just so happened to take place in “ Los Angeles California”.. I never considered it West or east coast always been a dance record to me…
Another thing.. just blaze produced the record who would be considered an East Coast producer as far as the sound and there were other songs he had with the same range and same pocket
PUMP IT UP - Joe Budden
Flipside - freeway
ROC the mic - Beanie sigel
What we do - freeway
Just to name a few
Vince top 5 funniest human on Earth
The hyphy movement BLEW UP in 05-06 but it was going on YEARS before that.
Do we just not acknowledge Mac Dre ?
Gotta acknowledge Keak too,hyphy is literally his word
That was a dumbass question no cap
LL cool j Mama said knock you out was over 100 bpm and not one person has ever said it was a west coast song.
It's not and never will be.its seems we giving west coast more credit than they deserve or they seem to be asking for more credit ironically with the resurgence of the west 🤔🤔✊🏿
That's not his point. Why are y'all so slow?
@@kaz4442 Break it down for us slow folks then.
I love the takes from the out-of-towners 😏
Was this a zoom meeting or a podcast of some kind? I want to see Vince going off!
it was a twitter space
No Limit started in Richmond ,CA.
Who care it was trash
Hmm idk about that🤔
And that shit was supper trashhh
@@realraw99 no, not at all. It was music of its time.
@ that 💩was trash at the time
the name of this channel is classic, mayne.
Love DJ Hed to pieces but Joe literally sampled Kool & the Gang. A Jersey City funk/disco group from the 70’s. So absolutely not. 🤷🏽♀️
I don't think he was calling the song that. He was wondering has anyone considered it that because of the bpm because it seems that some ppl attribute a songs bpm to whether or not it's a Westcoast record. I don't think he's trying to claim it is.
@@tiffanycaldwell5311He wasn’t. People just can’t hear anymore.
201 stand up
Anybody who knows, Master P will tell you himself, that he was inspired by how the independent artist from the Bay.
And Joe is diabolical for letting that “Joe started the hyphy movement” line go
It seems West Coast is trying to get more credit than they deserve when they get paid homage enough.lol bro y'all need to get some one else to rep y'all coast Vince cool but he have no objectivity who cares about bpms too much d licking going on for real they literally trying to sell that to us
@ what "more credit" are they asking for? Vince spoke facts. Especially in regards to Master P. I promise you it don't take nothing but a simple search in the search bar.
Hemet 😂😂😂
I will personally talk to Joe Budden if I ever see him outside about that hyphy movement statement…
The girl’s point on pump it up and crumping makes sense Hed’s trippin. Bro is talking about Jerkin nah jerkin was later crumping started early 00s
Thats a stupid question and I doubt anybody saying the tempo makes it a regional record, in most cases. Its definitely the pattern, swing, cadence and instruments that make it a specific regional sound. Like the whistle is a west coast thing. The 808 is a southern thing. The kick (no bass) is an east coast thing.
Mac Dre, not E40..
No disrespect, cause I was listening to E40 before, but Mac Dre started the hyphy. 2000 - 2001. Joe, that show in Oakland...ya already know. P.S. I'm from Vallejo, CA 80's baby 707
Big Dre Fans, all the way from KC! Love!
Don’t forget Keak! He was the 1st one to coin the term on wax
@@Pharoah510facts
😂😂😂😂 yall don't know that Master P got the game from Richmond, Ca??? Tapes out the trunk. The BayArea started the independent hip-hop movement
P will tell you that. thats also why they had plenty west coast features on them early projects. other than that No Limit had there own sound.
P gave credit to that.that had Yukmouth feeling some way too I'm pretty sure you know about that situation.if you wanna be real the south sound in the early-mid 90's(Rap-A-Lot &Suave House ,No-Limit) was highly inspired by the Northern/Bay area sound✊🏿✊🏿
They know where they get this sauce from the Bay sound is EVERYWHERE our words our lingo our cadence everything they stole it and flipped it
@@BeautiButBeasttthe bay is nothing but people that migrated from the south that is the connection so to say the south got its sound from the bay is idiocy
What’s with all this he smoking sherm nonsense people that smoke sherm not just running around saying stupid shyt it’s some people with a tolerance that enjoy getting dipped out and function better than these pot head goofies walking around like zombies
19:09 Vince got at him immediately 😂
Breaking down music only by BPM only is like breaking down blood by tempture only.
The new west coast tempo is derived from the “jerkin” dance movement in LA *pause. Early DJ Mustard made a lot of the beats that people rapped over to dance to, thats why it seems the new sound is all his production/tempo. YG was big in the movement too. If you were there you know.
Absolutely, mustard cut his teeth at them jerkin functions and yg used to make jerkin music, my whole jerkin crew used to see them in the early functions here in LA back in 09-10
@ 09-10 on point. You was there fasho🫡💯
Mustard did get some influence from the Bay sound. That's why he had issues at one point because he didn't give any credit to a sound he some how copied but also added to it. Mike Mosley, Rick Rock, E A Ski, that mob sound was first. But we all West Coast and they hate when we have the game. West West yall
I haven't heard that bpm convo at all to be honest , I think of a vibe and specific sounds when it comes to Westcoast beats as apposed to bpm
That's what Hed was saying.
Dj head always trying to prove he’s the smartest in the room and he still dumb AF still don’t have a sit down with Kendrick
Makes absolutely no sense. BPM doesn't determine the regional sound of a record. west coast records are usually labeled based on the swing and musical texture of the instrumental. Westcoast records tend to be more stripped down and minimalist production VS more abundant and instrumentally heavy beats. makes no sense.
Vince is funny asf 🤞🏿🤣😭🤣😭🤣🤞🏿
Asia is spot on with her take with the record and crumping.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruh Vince is my guy
Joe has had a lot of growth lol
Just Blaze said in a interview he originally had Tha Eastsidaz on that beat
Most of the funk band west coast producers sampled were from the east coast/mid west...is G funk or any west coast music east coast because of that?.
Can you name the bands and the songs that were sampled?
@imayhaveadhd parliament/funkadelic (DC, and north jersey), cameo (NYC), Ohio players, slave, Zapp, lakeside, roger troutman, all from ohio originally. Faze-O. Gap band from Tulsa.
Ric Flare drip is a west coast record if you change the keys .. same melody different sound and you have a west coast beat
Vince showing knowledge of the West. 100% No limit started in the Bay and P will say it. S*** I remember when Yuck was going a P for Ice Cream man song. But for Vince to know bout the history like that and he might not have even been double digits in age shows the west be knowing bout the music movements in Cali because a lot of our musicians be getting hated on everywhere else. We got a lot Cali music Stars were they should be up there on top artist back in the day. Just glad artist are calling out the west hate against them, of course all will have some bias for there style just seems the west gets the most hate and forgot bout styles they have contributed to music
I've never heard this bpm thing, and I make beats. I've been making beats for nearly 30 years. It's the vibe, not the bpm's
When Mustard's Sound, Which Most Of The Time was Between 95-100 BPMs Crossed Over It Became The "National Hip Hop" Sound... Then Top 40 Acts Made Their Renditions of It. Example : Iggy's "Fancy"
“Mustard’s” sound happens to have changed from Fred wreck or battlecat-ish (LA) to a more P-Lo or Droop-E (Bay) style production. You can go through his discography and definitely hear how his style changed…
Exactly. Around 2011/12 is when people in the industry started labeling 95-110 BPM's with Bass tones a West Coast sound.
Mustard for them hard drives from deep east Oakland 😂
Shout-out to Joe for being a forefather of the hyphy sound his groundbreaking smash record" Pump It Up" laid the foundation for the Bay Area to create another movement in the early to the mid 2000s Joe doesn't get enough credit for being an Originator and a trend setter big jersey 👑🎤🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's a FIRE SONG, but it didn't lay down the foundation the foundation for the Hyphy Era. And u talking to a fella whose FROM THERE
Right wtf is he talking about
@kennybulger2725 why are you trying to deny Joe's major contribution to Hyphy
@Mu047 big factz Joe is one of the key figures in the hyphy movement
Stop smoking sherm! 😂
Vince staple in my top 5 humans all time Idgaf. Kids, look up to him not these other goofies
When has pump it up ever been considered a west coast record?
Vince going at Dj Hed crazy “you smoke sherm 🥷 “
You still gone you 😂
Hed smoking dope
Dj head must be drinking from the same bottle that Elliot drank from on the Rory and Mal podcast. This is wild.
Na i need the extended convo 😅😅
DJ Hed is stating the fact that bpm sound 100+ isn't only a West Coast beat, and it isn't cause other regions use that bpm
Hyphy was out before it was mainstream, what he talking about? Mob music was 90s and by the early 00s it was hyphy.
NOT ONLY WAS HIS QUESTION DUMB AS ASS BUT HE THEN EXPLAINS IT IN A DUMBER WAY...WTF
He’s not a DJ he’s the shoe man 😂😂😂
Homegirl at the end saying pop smoke influenced Chicago drill with no shame lmao. People just say anything
I like Joe Budden initial response to DJ Hed with this west coast question. DJ Hed must be having convos with bots or something. That west coast bpm shit was stupid.
That's cause you are stupid. How did you miss what he was saying?
Yoooooooo…Joe Budden inspired the hyphy movement 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
14:13 The point went over their head… DJ Hed used “Pump it Up” as an example of a sound that is clearly not West coast (even Joe the creator states it is not)but falls into the BPM range that people are incorrectly classifying a as West Coast record. Comprehension is at an all time low.
"Their go to is Pump it up, ghetto report card Clock work etc. but it didnt start the Hype Chain!
NY & NJ let that Taylor Made Freestyle slide.
No way is they reppin Pac
DJ hed may be on something with that BPM theory
People talk about things they know nothing about and sound so misinformed. DJ Hed and Vince literally were saying facts and those other people were going off feelings-outside of Joe, who's obviously trolling. This is what I hate about music debates, anybody can say anything.
*Master P got his MUSIC BUSINESS acumen from the Bay, AND HIS MUSIC TALENT ETC FROM THE SOUTH, NEW ORLEANS. People need to understand the difference*
Wrong listen to TRU Hoody hoo
@camerongonzalez1909 Bruuuuuh THE MAJORITY OF BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BAY AND IN CALIFORNIA HAIL FROM THE SOUTH 🤣🤣🤣 LET'S NOT HAVE THIS TALK AGAIN
@camerongonzalez1909 Fun Fact: Hootie Hoo was first made by Goodie Mobb and Outkast but I guess you knew that right???
@@camerongonzalez1909 Put you down on my more SOUTHERN BLACK CULTURE, that you know nothing about...Hootie Hoo, Skeeew Uuuuu was a way we would called out to our homeboys when we came outside to find out where they were in the hood
Master P. literally stole the ice cream man concept from The Luniz. The Luniz are from Oakland, CA. Master P definately got a lot of his sauce from The Bay. Facts 💯.
Thank Eazy for your success
I was making my points tho
Hed do you hear this shit?! 😂😂😂
Bring this to the pod!
there's no consumer that thinks that Joe hit was a west coast music, never heard anyone saying " thats a west coast music"
If your heart rate was 105 😂
DJ Headass is a clown bro. LA is still fiendin’ for respect in this rap sh*t. Never heard DJ Hed talk this much since Drake and Lamar beef
😂 😂 😂 😂
How long you been following him?
You've only heard of him since the pop out, doesn't mean he hasn't been around or a factor just because you weren't aware. He's been around before Wayne and Birdman turned into Bloods.
Aint nobody ever heard anyone on this planet say Pump It Up is a west coast record. They made that shh up to bait Joe and got mad he ain't fall for it. They wild as shh.
SOB RBE / Mike Sherm turnt that 100+ tempo all the way up
I’m a dj and I will say most Cali uptempo records are 100 and up bpm , but no that dosent mean it’s a Cali record
Joe can make fun of the “bpm argument” all he wants but it’s LITERALLY scientifically proven (and I learned this in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL) That the bpm HEAVILY INFLUENCES peoples emotions BASED OFF OF heart rate. MEANING when you get anxious, nervous, scared your Harte rate spikes there’s a certain number same with sadness and anger. Hence why you feel those emotions MORE when listening to songs whose beats live in that range. That’s why the say music is the ONE language EVERYONE can understand