I try out an RS Venture
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Although RS Sailing is chiefly known for their racing dinghies, the Venture is a purpose-designed training and family cruising boat, and they invited me to try it out. This is not a formal boat test, but simply my first impressions of this impressive dinghy. The intention though is that this channel will be including many boat tests in the future, in which I will try out boats that are suitable for dinghy cruising. Subscribe so you don't miss any!
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This video is my Bob Dylan rock band moment.
though I don't think you'll become a pariah of the dinghy world
You are certainly entitled to trying this boat! Your boat is in no way inferior to this, and there are many things your boat can do better, as are there things this can do better. The good thing is that you got to appreciate both!
Yes! I'd definitely want the Rodger Barnes spec RS.
A tent, stove box, oars, electric motor (maybe) sleeping arrangements and a anchor ⚓
If you've got a tent, you can sleep on land. The question is, can you land and launch the boat from the beach?
@@hermitoldguy6312 The idea is that you have a overboom tent and sleep at anchor or tied to a harbour wall/tree/etc.
Sleeping in the boat is the point really.
I look forward to more boat reviews. Thanks to RS for showing us this boat.
What a great show from RS. I wish them all the best for the Venture and would absolutely love to see an RS-RB collaboration model. Can’t wait for the overnight Venture video too.
thanks for that rodger 👍
That was very interesting Roger, thanks for taking the time to make and post it. I enjoy your videos very much and have subscribed to your channel for some time, although I am no dinghy cruiser and have only been sailing a couple of times myself, I just really enjoy watching your adventures. I think it's a great idea to see you try out some of the kit that's available to help people make informed choices if they're interested in dinghy cruising. Jake's enthusiasm for the Venture was great to watch and his passion for RS Sailing was clear. It looked like he was keen on a collaboration with you to fit the dinghy out with a "Barnes" inspired cruising kit. Someone with your design skills working with a company like RS Sailing would create an excellent product I'm sure.
Thank you Roger. Loved the big smile on your face as the boat accelerated. 😎👏👍⚓️
Thank you Roger, interesting video to go with my morning coffee and as always , produced very well. I still think visually wooden boats offer an undeniable charm but they are not for everyone and modern technology does have many advantages. Funny I tend to think that more often when I have to maintain that wooden boat. 😉. ....but messing about on any boat of any type is such fun.
Great looking boat. Yes Roger add your design, spec and features to "Roger's Spec Venture 2.0"
When I started learning to sail in 2008, I was amazed by the sheer diversity of boats. Not being a competitive kind of person, I sailed along the cliffs of the Côte d'Albâtre, Saint-Valéry en Caux and Veulettes sur Mer. I had no idea that I had not invented dinghy cruising, but discovered that other people were doing it with better boats than mine! Keeping my Zef "Sarum" that you have seen at the Semaine du Golfe, I have gone slightly the other way by picking up a cheap "pêche-promenade" built in the 1970's by Beneteau with a long ballasted keel and skeg-mounted rudder. My best period of training was in the Laser dinghy over a week at the Glénans - lots of capsizes and recoveries and our teacher in a boat like us, not an overpowered rubber dinghy. I think it is good to have training in that quite "sporty" kind of boat that RS builds - and acquire skills and reflexes that get us out of trouble when cruising and being in a crisis situation. I have enjoyed this video and admired your appreciation of a different kind of boat than the lug-rigged fishing-inspired vessel. Well done, Roger.
There's a few people that have cruised in Laser 2s but I wouldn't recommend it.
@@bonscott1938 I agree. You wouldn't take your family out for a Sunday afternoon run in the country in a Ferrari. Each boat has its purpose. I have nothing against competition and sport, even if it isn't my "thing".
Love the review format - be interested to see another boat reviewed in the future.
If RS' attitude is at all like Jake's, then they sound amazing and I wish them tons of success selling boats.
Thr venture looks like plenty of fun. There would also be lots of challenge figuring out all the little cruising challenges. If there's space to stow, then you're on your way.
Excellent informative video. The RS Venture looks like a goodish boat. I love the idea of a Roger Barnes specification boat. We used to have just a few basic parameters when looking at suitable cruising dinghy. Good enough freeboard? Wet or dry boat? Good self bail? Easy stepping mast? Highish boom? Easy reefing? Easy fold-up centreboard? Great stowage out of the weather [really a must]? And of course - was it fun to sail? Could it be quick or was it a stodgy unresponsive thing? Oh, and easy-ish to maintain. There were extra things to think about if you wanted a boat that allowed you to cook and sleep on board, but we never did. It was usually 2 of us, but sometimes upto 4. We were truly all-day cruisers and we took enormous picnics with us, with wines, beers, etc, plus finger-foods for eating while sailing, Or maybe take a land tent and pull up on a beach, to cover a weekend trip, although that cut down on the suitable overnight destinations. We were lucky in that we were based in Southampton and had the whole of the Solent area and Isle of Wight to explore or just enjoy the trip there. And yes, we did get as far as Chichester Harbour and Bournemouth in the other direction, and sailed around the Island a few times, so you really can get to places in a cruising dinghy. The boats? 1954 wooden Uffa Fox Fairey Marine Albacore that was super fun. An Ian Procter Kestrel, and a Wayfarer. Not at same time, of course. ⛵
Nice little vlog, well done Jake and RS for inviting you to look at their dingy. It would be great if they kitted one up and took it over to Brittany for you to test it out on a few trips?
that was a top notch video ,was fun and laughter watching that ,great boat too you could say its the lightweight day sail version but with all the right accessories and fitments would be a overnight weekender for sure
I hope RS does a ‘Roger Barnes’ cruising version as discussed. That would be awesome!
I really enjoy seeing the variety of dinghies that are compatible for cruising. Your book has a very unbiased review of several types and now your videos are adding to that collection. Although I building a wooden dinghy, I can see the appeal and versatility of different designs and constructions. Thanks for broaden my perspective. Your videos are spurring me on to finish my build!
Fucking brilliant, that’s made my Sunday, fascinating. Thanks Roger!
Five minutes into watching this I am asking myself where do you stow the galley box and spirit stove? Where do you stow your bag with water proofs and a change of dry clothing? Does it come with oars if required? I think your channel is getting to me!
As standard there is a large stern locker and dry stowage under the foredeck. In addition there is space for waterproof bags under the side seats.
@@RogerRoving Well that's good, what about the tent?
Kevan, lots of smiles reading your lovely post !
@@kevanparker908 Don't you forget the toilet and portable shower.
This new Venture looks fun but lacks the soul of the cruising dinghy. The gentle motion of the dinghy is relaxing, giving you a bit more time to jibe and spot obstacles near by. Getting somewhere quickly is never the goal of a cruiser. It's the enjoyable experience of the journey that's important. ♡ cheers, S/V Cork ~
Re; "never the goal of the cruiser". You mean never YOUR goal. I love sailing and camping, and I push any boat I'm on to the limit. This is my idea of fun and relaxation. Each to his own, right?
A very interesting video by two very skilled sailors. Thank you.
I find it no different than the idea behind my own GP14. To quote Wiki "In a design philosophy that is both practical and highly redolent of social attitudes of the day the intention was that she should accommodate a family comprising parents plus two children, and specifically that the jib should be modest enough for "Mum" or older children to handle, while she should perform well enough to give "Dad" some excitement when not taking the family out. "
Basically the same as the RS Venture. It can be raced, or it can be cruised. It all depends on what you want to do. I am glad there are some builders that still adhere to that design philosophy.
This is my dream boat. Can't wait for a used example to come up on the Australian market.
Speed !
Utterly lovely to watch this ……. ( ROGER ……“that looks like a lot of sail for today” ) 😂😀😀
What a great episode and amazing dinghy! It wouldn’t take much to turn it into a Roger Barnes approved cruising boat😉.
Real fun day-sailer, cruiser not even close.
Thanks for this one Roger, interesting to see whether and how more modern boats might be used for cruising.
I bought a National 18 with reefing main and anchor for this purpose.
How trippy to see the RS people waking up to the cruising dinghy revolution. Lifeboat rowing looks like it’s on the rise also, just saw a boat full of rowers off the beach near Barcelona. Racing class dinghies and rowing shells certainly aren’t the only way to do small boat sailing and rowing, and now all the go-fast sailers want to foil! The times, they are a changin’!
As an ex owner of a Gull Spirit the RS still looks very lively. It doesn’t quite match the spirit of the usual pace of your adventures Roger. If I were to revisit dinghy cruising I would be more likely to look for something a bit more relaxed...in wood
Most enjoyable Roger and lots of food for thought.
This was a good video idea Roger. I liked it a lot.
Hi from Japan. Interesting to see the RS... BUT... Maybe it's my advanced age, but I hold my prejudices with pride in that, once I saw there was not even a speck of wood on the craft, I said "No, thank you. I want to see the Ilur."
A little beyond my price I bought a second hand 16.1 French Astus Tri around six grand I paid. It is a great little boat safe, relatively fast I’ve been through a few little wind over tide overfalls here off the Farne islands and found it a safe little boat plenty of room for my granddaughter and we can fish safely.
The comet trio is a very cruiser friendly dinghy with reefing, outboard mounting etc. Phil Morrison design with classic lines
I find it very humorous that the lake was “flooded” one would expect it to be the natural state of the lake. 🥰😜😂
Flooded. And so all the slipways were unusable.
I always enjoy your content
I’ve never sailed at all but would love to. These videos are a great eye opener Roger.
What are you waiting for! Join a club
Roger, would love to see you review a boat from a kit manufacturer such as Chesapeake Light Craft. I think they are a great way for someone to build their own wooden boat. I'm about to begin my Passagemaker Sailing Dinghy (lug sail) and can't wait to start adventuring as you do. You've been a huge influence and inspiration. Thank you sir!
Excellent! A great idea for a series!
Very, very appealing.
Good job Jake, you showed proper respect to the master.
Thank you for the video Rodger, very informative, I have sailed a venture sometime ago and though it would make a good cruiser, I loved the reefing system as well, it really is as easy as Jake showed, the same an Argo which we teach in
Excellent video, one of the best overviews I’ve seen of an RS boat.
What a fun boat !!!
A nice impression of a more nervous type of boat I would hesitate to use in stronger wind and / or sea conditions. The tacks have been typical racing dinghy ones: one has to bee quick and coordinated or will be thrown into the pond. But the final impression is, that a fast boat leaves some open questions regarding the comfort, onload, and sail handling which make me feel very happy with my Lobster 12.5.
Hello from across the pond! Thanks for reviewing this Dinghy. I’m currently enjoying your book. Very informative. Thanks again Roger. Looking forward to your next video.
Roger Barnes edition! 👍👍👍😁
Why not try a Shrimper. Traditional fun cruising, rallies. Trailable. Like a dinghy, but no need for a tent. Would suit Roger down to a tee!
Welcome to chi harbour Roger! Hope you enjoyed your visit!
Great video, so glad that you show these options as well! I feel like a lot of people, my self partially included, get to hung up in the "I need a specific type of dingy or boat to do that" so they never go out there. When the truth is that it doesn't matter what you use, just as long as you are out there using it!
Good move RS - I hope this takes off.
Go on Roger I for one would be interested in the Roger Barnes boat
Hi Roger. GNAV is Vang backwards, as in a backward/upsidedown boom Vang...
Roger, Roger... What were you thinking!
We would love to have you sail and comment on the Seascape sailboats....Stop the press, it has a cuddy cabin!!
Thinking out loud. Could the DCA partner up with RS to develop (or build an existing design) using modern methods and materials but in the style and spirit of sail and oar, dinghy cruising and camping etc? A DCA one design? :) Thanks for the video. As a new member still weighing up boat options the heart says wood, but the head tells me grp. The venture does look solid and stable. Look forward to further testing and videos.
The DCA already have 2 one designs, the 'Rebel' and the 'Roamer' , but they are self build in wood.
@@geraldturner9297 the GRP Rebel and Roamer?
Different style of boat altogether, but you might like to consider the grp scamp. ua-cam.com/video/oEElqnxIq1k/v-deo.html
@@learnfix5725 thanks for this. I have heard of the scamp but only in wooden kit form. Will have a look at the builders website.
I'd love to cruise about in Georgian Bay, Ontario on one of those RS Venture's.
Despite my complaints, this boat is a delight to sail. Actually quite fast and well behaved. We have the Connect version for teaching adults with mobility issues. Despite its weighted keel, it still feels very much like a dinghy. I’d love to try this version.
Love it!! Looking forward to more reviews. I'm not so sure the cluttered floorboards will be suitable for camp cruising, as there are simply too many lines.
Would have thought you would have opted for a review of the Drascombe Lugger as the quintessential starting point for any dinghy cruising with a production boat. Plenty of them are around and have been in production for many years. Racing dinghies are fine daysailers for younger people with strong backs but get a little cramped for overnight camping.
Thank you for your videos.
In fact the Venture would be far more spacious to sleep in than a Drascombe lugger!
Nice video interesting review. Thanks 😊
Aah. Excellent! With winter winds just starting to take hold. What better way than to examine one's sailing experience then have a go at other, cruising type dingys.
Roger's, winter Adventure.
Starting with, the new modern cruising dingy, to the older dingys of the past.
My take on the, RS Venture. It's a lovely little dingy. If a Racing Dingy Sailor was to take the helm, yes, it would pass as a overnight cruising dingy, if there were two or three Stars Hotels along It's journey. Then yes, it would do. But for us "under the tarp" types... no.
All boats are compromises. I hope the next, cruising dingy, you look at is the, Drascombe.
To me, in the modern fiberglass, open cruising dingy, the Drascombe is a wow. I can see myself flying to England, purchasing the, Longboat or the Gig.
Spending the winter there, learning, cruising, outfitting, and seeing the Coasts of Britain till Spring rolls in. Aah! Humm! Europe would be fun.
I thinking I'd like the, Drascombe's, Gig, dingy for this. Lots of room for supplies and long cruising. Sounds fantastic!
It is a interesting looking boat. It looks a bit small for overnight camping.
It’s amazing how little things change. This modern boat’s sail plan is rigged exactly like my 1970s Chysler Lone Star 13. With my Chysler you are sitting inside the boat not on the gunwales. You have twin daggerboards which leaves the cockpit free of a centerboard trunk. A closed foredeck provides covered storage for gear.
This was a great video I hope you get another opportunity to take one out in conditions more to your liking.
Where do I purchase a Venture with the Roger Barnes spec.?
Great info,on the modern side of dinghy cruising.As a traditionalist wooden boat freak,I only can say "oh isn't that interesting" 🤣
Nice looking,well thought out sailboat. I have a 1948 wooden comet class sailboat that I’m redoing the paint on.
Great video,hope you do more of these trial videos. Safe travels
I've sailed an RS Venture quite a few times. It is a great boat, nicely sorted, as all RS boats are. It is well mannered and even the kite is easily handled if you feel the need for a bit more speed. The only reason I didn't consider one when I bought the Wayfarer for cruising was cost - the price I payed for my battered Wayfarer world would probably not have covered the deposit on a Venture. If you were buying the Wayfarer new, I am sure there would be a lot less in it. I would certainly recommend a test sail in a Venture if you get the chance, lots of the little modern design features like the reefing system, GNAV, and all the little tweaks you can't see just work so well.
I really love your boat Roger but as we get older a lighter boat with easier rigging would be ideal. What ever you decide I’ll still look forward to seeing more of your adventures.
I really like the trailer not seen one here in the USA. The boat looks fun but not for cruising. Can’t Waite to see other crafts.
Wished I had known you were down on the island you could have had a meal and a drink on board 😊
First words out of Roger, perhaps we should reef😂. You can take the man out of his cruising dinghy, but you can’t tak the cruising dingy out of the man👍. This boat has appeal for it’s sportyness and is the perfect day sailor but not a cruiser.
Its a sort of time capsule to see you in a modern Dinghy, and not around the penn-sardine area, nice and interesting .
Came back to this video, after watching part 2 of Roger and Mary's Dutch sailing adventure, because only the other day I realised that I work at a company literally 500 yards down Premier Way, Romsey, from RS Sailing. I've been driving past their door for nearly 3 years and never really made the connection until now. OOPS! 😄
Jake should be on the radio with a voice like that
I love your videos! This boat could use a CDI main fuller. That would make it so much easier to launch and much easier to reef. That is what I finally went with on my boat
Fuller ? Furler ?
This is amazing. Roger Barnes on an RS Venture. Who'da ever thunk it, ya? Not really set up for cruising... but it definitely could be. R.Barnes Performance Cruising Model... plenty of space for expanded storage, rowing or skulling setup, proper anchor stowage, tie-downs for gear, outboard bracket & battery storage... now we're talking!
Nice modern boat. Roger i like to know your opinion about the boat. What do feel along this saling day. And yes… the tent… is your next vídeo eheh
He definitely made the Selden reefing look slick.
Hi,Roger hope we are not waiting to long for the RS.RB adventure, with tent and maybe electric outboard ,to save you from getting port and starboard sailors arm syndrome,but I am still a fan of your boat it's the dogs rollocks.
you are now ready to try and test the hobie aventure island ! petit trimaran polyéthylène parfait pour visiter la Bretagne ( rade de Brest, les abers, baie de Morlaix...). Ce serait vraiment amusant d'avoir votre avis : )
To me…….
This boat looks like a lot of fun 🤩.
But it reminded me of my “Lazer”
which is hardly a camping dinghy ⛵️.
That’s a wet sailing boat…… many will not agree that it’s a good “cruising dingy “.
I like fast boats……… so I would love 💕 this boat.
Nice boat.
😒😎
Love the rig, the speed, the stability. Those benches look awfully narrow...
Venture's a lovely boat - thanks for the great review. (Now, is that Venture clinker built??!)
I wish I could have seen the entire reefing process. By the time the camera was directed at the sail, he had already lowered and gathered it neatly.
Well you didn’t sleep in it nor boil a brew. Think it would melt anyway. It’s just apparent green grass on tuther side of fence. Don’t trade yours in. :)
Wonderful video!
I hope you collude with RS on an ‘RS Roger Barnes’ cruising version. As a family we’ve enjoyed sailing an RS 400 and a little RS Tera when the kids were younger…very good boats. And for cruising and camping, a Drascombe Lugger and old leaky wooden Folkboat. And of course the Mirror Dinghy, way back when.;)
7:13 - what was that? That boat came about and just squirted past! Impressive!
Looking at the lines on that hull, it looks like you could make a stitch and glue plywood version home kit. This would promote overseas sales.
Next time: Roger tries an International 14 😀
ok - i am reminded of the movie "must love dogs" - everyone wants fiberglass....but these lose beautifully.." speaking of his wood crafted sculls...@19:03 .i think the next obvious sailing marketing effort by RS Sailing is to lease one to you for a weekend outing loaded and rigged for one of Roger Bwqrnes Tope adventures... BUt i think that 100% choose a day with not so much wind skill needed.... :_)
Very amusing seeing Roger looking over the transom as he goes about. He's at a loss what to do with his other hand, no need to grab the mainsheet off the thumb cleat!
We have a Venture Connect.
That reefing system isn’t worth a damn if you can’t get the sail lowered! Even after about 6 months of sailing, it’s a tremendous effort to raise the sail, just today I needed to reef and it would-not-move. It was a harrowing ride home. How difficult is it to size the bolt rope appropriately for the sail track?
When it is underway, it is a delightful boat to sail, and it walks away from our fleet of Quests, but the more we get acquainted with it, the more annoying issues we encounter. Rudders that refuse to pivot, keel that jams when retracted, tillers that get fouled in the mainsheet bridle…lots of stuff to remedy. It just seems like the boat wasn’t fully sorted out before they started selling them.
Thanks, Nice presentation .
Q, what kind of west is the skipper use ?
I have the same question!
Stick to your old boat Roger, it gives you time to eat your bread and pate, swig a beer and have a chat. Although the venture looks a great dinghy, the speed that thing goes, your video's will only be 5 minutes long.
Lovely comment ⬆️👍🏻😂
There's a completely different seat-of-the-pants feel to the light plastic boats vs the traditional wood dinghies, eh?
Loved the idea of a sailing dinghy like this. Until I saw the price!
Are there any older or cheaper examples of these style of sailing dinghys.
Nice fast Daysailer! Doesn’t look very cozy for coastal cruising however. Unlike your beautiful Allure!
New Baltic for the film Roger?
Reef early is a good credo....but not yesterday.
Nice