Kicked Out of a New Hampshire State Park. WHY? (RV Living Full Time) 4K
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2021
- Kicked Out!? Yes! We were told we coukd mot stay.
As full time travelers in our Grand Design fifth wheel, we have camped at private, city, state, county, and National parks. But this has been mostly in Florida and Canada. Our first time at a state park campground in New Hampshire was a brand new experience.
We were traveling from Florida to Maine on our way to Canada, making stops along the way at some RV Resorts and campgrounds. We found this beautiful State Park Campground in New Hampshire on Lake Winnipesaukee. We had a 7 night reservation, but stayed only 2 nights. We were told we have to leave about 20 minutes after we got there.
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The point of the video is to always check to see all the rules and regulations before booking. It’s not just about dogs - this campground also does not allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully.
Based on some comments, I found links to other NE state parks with strict pet policies: Connecticut- portal.ct.gov/DEEP/State-Parks/Camping/Camping-Areas---CT-State-Parks-and-Forests#saltrock ; New York - thedyrt.com/magazine/local/campers-love-these-6-dog-friendly-campgrounds-in-new-york/ ; Maryland - dnr.maryland.gov/publiclands/Documents/MPSPetPolicy.pdf ; Pennsylvania - dnr.maryland.gov/publiclands/Documents/MPSPetPolicy.pdf ; New Jersey - www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/parks/pet_friendly_camping.html
(and thank you for helping the channel- EVERY comment - the rude/ignorant/uncalled for- still helps the algorithm 😁)
Lib states of karen
I don't think it's because of "owners".
It's to protect Wildlife, therefore *PETS*
I have had to leave a Government Campsites because of my cat, but not all are like that.
It depends on the wildlife species.
Parvo/Feline Leukemia, Ticks,...ect..
@@ricrinehart975 Shut up right wing un-American traitor.
I really admire the ownership that you two took for your honest mistake when booking - your humble respect for the park ranger, the campground, and New Jersey itself, especially after such a challenging experience, shows a lot of class! Thanks for the great video!!
Thank you so much. Unfortunately, many people left negative comments so we really appreciate someone seeing the message we were trying to convey.
Many northeast state park campgrounds are not pet friendly so we triple check now - the south is the opposite.
But really we wanted people to look at all the fine print - Ellacoya also doesn’t allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully? Very strange for a state park.
It’s a shame all websites don’t require you to click pet or not - the way you are required to put in RV length.
Again, it’s great to read a comment like yours 🤗
We were traveling through New England in 2019 and spent 7 days in New Hampshire on our return trip. Not only did we find that State Parks did not allow pets, we also found that many commercial parks either didn’t allow pets or charged extra if you had pets. We wound up staying at Danforth Bay campground which is about an hour from Ellacoya. Check it out next time. Pets were allowed and there were no extra charges.
Wow. Thanks for sharing your experience and the tip.
We tend not to go to private campgrounds because of the cost and many are big parking lots. We wish there was a Thousand Trails in NH- at least it would have been already paid for.
I’ll check that campground. Thanks again,
Alice
We stayed at a hotel in Tewkesbury,Gloucestershire....and our puddy cat stayed for free...
@@david-lt9wj surprising. We stayed at a hotel that charged us $50 per fee
@@DownsizingMakesCents was that the savoy?
@@DownsizingMakesCents I can buy a room for a couple for one night at £50....that’s heavy man...
Irresponsible dog owners ruin it for the rest of us. We were at a private park in AZ that borders BLM property. Separated by a three rail fence. People would actually climb through the fence for their dog to do it's business, and then not pick it up. Land mines everywhere.
Frank, I know what you mean. If all dog owners followed the rules 😡.
I’ve seen people bring their dog to a state park spring and let them swim right next to the No Dogs Allowed sign?
I wish private citizens could give fines 🤣
Alice
Ashame how lazy and selfish people can be.
Who picks up after the wildlife?
@@DownsizingMakesCents There are always a few dog owners that don't pick up after their dog, but why punish the ones that do? Dogs are like family and sometimes you want to take them camping or glamping...
@@brendaalderman8780 Very true. Just like not every person litters.
But for full time travelers, it’s not a choice whether to bring a pet. It’s our home.
I’m glad everything worked out for you guys. Stay safe.
Kirby, thank you. It did. Maine is beautiful. And now more people are aware of the issue,
Alice
Well, NH is off my list. Thanks for the heads up.
Even the NH state park campgrounds that allow dogs state you can’t ever leave them alone at the campground?
It’s so weird. Share with other camping dog owners to save them this headache,
Alice
Us too.
100% agree. They wouldn't even allow a camp fire. Craziness.
I think about 1/3 of the campgrounds are not pet friendly. The rest are pet friendly
@@jennahastings5625 I’m not sure if I’d use the term pet friendly. The restrictions even when they allow dogs is more than we are used to
thanks, for the tip. I used to live in NH and I still might have missed the No Pets Allowed post.
I wonder how obvious it is at other state parks that don’t allow dogs? At least many people are spreading the word,
Alice
Thank you guys for being so gracious
Sandra, we just try to help others not make hue mistakes we made.
The exclusion of pets and certain types of RVs at a state park was a big surprise.
We appreciate your coming by,
Alice
Thank you for this video. 💙
It was embarrassing to admit to such a mistake but after reading the positive comments- not the dog haters - we realized how many people felt the same surprise by this rule at a state park.
Plus, Ellacoya had even stranger rules for a state park - no tents, no campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully?
My wife and I had a similar problem. It's so unfortunate, because I'm sure they were probably allowed at one point, but there's so many pet owners that don't have common courtesy for the next and ruin it for the rest of us. That goes for plenty of aspects outside of pets too!! Great, detailed video btw👍👍
Thanks. Glad you pointed out that non pet owners are also ruining camping.
The northeast seems to be more pet unfriendly than other areas - except Maine ❤️
But what was really strange were the other rules - in a state park campground?- no tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully ?
I think it's more so to protect WildLife.
Yes, it is too bad that many dog owners are irresponsible. Saddly i find myself appreciate parks that dont allow dogs, tired of stepping in shit, Rv and car tires getting pissed on and constant barking. Even had a dog take my dinner of the table more than once.
Enjoy out there 😊
It is a shame dog owners and non dog owners can be so disruptive.
But this is really about unexpected rules- we were surprised this state park also did not allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents WoW 😮. The things people allow this day in age ha, and they don’t allow. 😢
Good news for new campers!
Thanks foe the heads up!
We were very surprised by the rules in this state park - no tents, no campsite fires, no RVs that can’t fully hookup.
Look at pinned comment for links to other northeast state parks that aren’t pet friendly,
Alice
25+ years ago dogs were prohibited in all Florida State Parks. I went to to head of the Division (I worked in the same headquarters) and told her how much money they were missing out from people not camping in state parks because of their stupid rule. After a lot of public input the rule was changed and the parks began to fill up. That is another reason FSP treats poop leavers and people who leave their dogs unattended so seriously. If people would do the right thing, we wouldn’t have stupid rules!
Wow. I didn’t know that about Florida.
Imagine how nice camping would be if people followed simple etiquette all around,
Alice
Fine these losers hard and that will cure it.
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There were plenty of people camping all these years without dogs.. and the campgrounds were full
I would have cried, too. I’m glad it all worked out. ~carol
Thanks, Carol. I was just so tired. But now we know and everyone that watches this video knows.
Yes. It worked out. Maine state park was amazing,
Alice
What a bummer! Glad you found another place to go!
Dean, thanks. This lifestyle makes you flexible,
Alice
Very well put and I hope you enjoyed your trip and God bless
Nelson, thank you. We are always looking for ways to help fellow campers,
Alice
I just hate it when peoples dogs wander into my campsite. I used to act friendly and talk nice but now it is not a so nice reaction because they will keep coming back.
Marie, I would hate that, too. Our dog is always on a leash. And we only walk her on the edge of sites, not in the site,
Alice
You guys are such wonderful people I’m so sorry that happened to you but it looks like you have a very special spot there at your new place I look forward to touring that area soon someday safe travels hope to see you out on the road look forward to Larry’s next DYII project I’d love to see your solar system 🙏🏼❤️🤙🏼✌🏼
Mark, thank you so much. We really appreciate the support.
Maine is amazing ❤️
Larry loves his DIYs. He hasn’t done the solar yet because he’s such a perfectionist and he needs to finish one piece- 3D print it. I’ll work on getting him to do it 😉 And I hope we do get a chance to meet,
Alice
Thanks for sharing!!
We hope people won’t assume even state park campgrounds can have different rules.
For instance, Ellacoya doesn’t allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully?
Thanks...I would really enjoy that park. It's on my must visit list for NH.
It’s a beautiful campground. But as pet owners who travel full time and love state parks, it’s hard enough to get reservations and the northeast limits our choices even more.
But really the video is about double checking rules - don’t assume because it’s a state park.
This particular campground doesn’t allow certain types of RVs,
Alice
Thanks for this info. I doubt I would have noticed the fine print, either. We're planning on going to Maine from Florida next year. I'll plan our stops to avoid NH. We're full time. There's no option to leave them anywhere but with us. They're family!
💯 You get it. NH is not a dog friendly state. The list of restrictions is long. But there is only 1 state park in Maine that doesn’t allow it. But be careful of Maines cancellation fee- $5 per night!
Safe travels,
Alice
Omg as a pet owner it’s scary. I will call first before booking. Thanks for the info. Safe travels🥰🥰🙏🏻
Carmen, we were very surprised. It is best to check,
Alice
Excellent warning and reminder
Thanks.
We are currently at a Florida state park that marked the site we booked as dog free, but I called the ranger station. It’s incorrect - they haven’t corrected the info. All sites allow dogs.
But I’m glad I checked.
I’m still surprised a state park would require an RV with full hookups? No tents? Sounds more like a private campground
Nice story guys. Thanks.
It was difficult at the time. But since Larry was diagnosed with a rare Neuro disorder, that problem was nothing 🤗
I love camping with my dog, however I have been in campsites were people let their dogs run loose, they bark all night, I've seen dog fights, I've seen kids bitten by dogs I can understand not allowing dogs. And the worst of all they don't pick up after their dogs.
@Mike Bjornstad Mike, it is a shame campers aren’t more respectful of other campers. Why weren’t these people reported and told to leave?
I feel the same way about these issues as ones dealing with rude campers that don’t have dogs,
Alice
You nailed it. People ruined it for all dogs. I'm so sick of people..
@@dirtysanchez941 it’s a shame that rude campers of all sorts ruin it for others
@@SSagan 🙏 Why did it take so long for someone else to point out how much noise humans make 👍
Alice
Yes! That is why we stopped camping with our dog. We always keep ours on a leash and had to deal with loose ones scaring ours. Too much stress.
In today's crazy world you could have told the ranger Scrappy identifies as human 🤣
Many people see their dog as a member of the family,
Alice
ROTFL!
So sad 😞 so sorry this happened to you and your fur baby thank you for sharing your experience with me.
It was an important lesson about checking ALL rules. Just because it’s a state park, don’t assume. They also don’t allow certain types of RVs and no tents,
Alice
Oh this state park is spot on. Gonna have to put this park on my list.
Just make sure you have the right type of RV - not all are allowed
So glad you found a place to go! I think this is a reminder video for us to also read the details and fine print. Safe travels and hope you get to travel thru Canada! Theresa and Mike
Yes! Read the fine print 😂
The border between NB and NS opened up so it looks 👍 🇨🇦
Alice
Thank you so much for posting this! My recently retired Husband and our two dogs are fixing to start Rving. New Hampshire is no officially off our list! Thank you guys so much!
Carrol, check out our pinned comment- more NE states with many restrictions. But Maine is very dog friendly 🐾❤️
Alice
There are campgrounds that are pet friendly in NH, and it is an amazing state to explore, especially if you are an outdoor enthusiast. Just double check and verify if possible before hand Especoally during holidays....
@@birdlady2725 Thanks. It’s just so hard to get reservations in general. To find a state that cuts those choices down even more is hard for a full time traveler.
NH did look beautiful. It just doesn’t seem likely we will camp here again.
Alice
Yes we are!!! Only Sebago State Park doesn’t allow pets because it’s a smaller park and doesn’t have a very large area for dogs to be walked
That's a shame. The white mountains are worth seeing. But not at my family's expense ! Pets are part of people's family.
Wow. Good to know. Never heard of that before! Maine is amazing though so glad that worked out. Thanks for a fun and informative video. You guys are great. And so is Scrappy:)!!
Thanks. It was surprising to find out how many northeast state park campgrounds don’t allow dogs or have heavy restrictions.
It was even more surprising to find out certain types of RVs aren’t allowed - thats our main point - there are surprising rules.
Thanks for watching and commenting,Scrappy says thanks too,
Alice
You made a very helpful video 🙏❤️🙏
Glad we could help
Well I like that. I’m so tired of dogs not being watch by their owners! I’ve owned dogs for years, but I’m so happy that I don’t have to worry about having a dog that barks, or dealing with campers that don’t take care of their dogs.
Lisa, there is nothing worse then a camper that has no respect for other campers, with or without dogs.
The point of the video is - if you camp with a dog, double check if they are allowed,
Alice
Amen...not everyone enjoys listening to yapping dogs while the owners are away
That is definitely an eye opener , I take day trips to NH and ME a few times a year , I had no idea NH was so anti dog, I like Maine better anyway, thanks for the video guys. Always learning something.
We just found your channel. It's very educational and as you we are dual citizenship. Just ordered our first coach and going full time also. I hope you get in to Canada. And if ever you need anything in Montreal reach out to us and we can offer a place to Mooch. Oh on a final note thank you so much for all the content you out out there.
Daniel, thank you so much much. We are so glad you found us.
We plan on Nova Scotia but we shall see. Thanks for the mooch offer,
Alice
This area of NH is so beautiful. Sorry you had trouble while you were there.
It was a beautiful place. But we learned quickly that the northeast state parks are not dog friendly- except Maine.
But other rules were even more surprising- no tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully at this campground?
Awe cute Scrappie. ❤️
Thanks. She’s a sweetie.
In PA, you need to check the state parks because some loops allow pets and some don't, even in the same campground. Live and learn I guess. Sorry you went through it.
Wow thats weird. I hope they mark that clearly when booking a site at those campgrounds. I are going to try to look at campground maps when booking to make sure we can catch anything like this. But sometimes you book quickly because you are just trying to find anyplace to go, and you can only hold it in your cart for 15 minutes. 15 min is not enough time to get it all done. Is the site big enough, is it close to our route, does it have hook ups, etc. Seeing if they take dogs just didn't occur to us. Thanks for the heads up in PA, we will be back in the fall. Larry
We always first call the park, or hotel, if traveling with our dog. Been that way for years.
Norbert, we definitely learned our lesson. We were used to Florida state park campgrounds,
Alice
Amazing. Bucket list.
It was a beautiful campground just so many rules
You guys are awesome! And scrappy is totally adorable
Thanks, Scrappy is a sweetheart abs loves people.
The rules are so different up here at state parks. This park will actually turn away certain RVs?
Alice
Thanks for sharing, I really never thought too much about not being able to take her, dog. To my wife said couple places didn't allow dogs.
Denny, we were surprised how many NH state parks don’t allow them. If they did, sooo many restrictions. It’s off our list,
Alice
That really sucks about no pets and that they would not allow y'all to stay at least through Memorial Day weekend and then leave. Glad y'all were able to find something on Memorial Day weekend and it looked like a nice place too! Thanks for sharing! ~ Shion and Matthew
We were lucky we could stay 2 nights- because we couldn’t book anything until then.
But you are right, the Maine state park was amazing,
Alice
Bending the rules opens a Pandora’s Box with people who had dogs and didn’t bring them. Ranger made the right call.
Thank you for the warning.
Ralph, check our pinned comment- more northeast state parks that limit,
Alice
Wow good To know THKS
Helene, check my pinned comment for more northeast states that don’t seem very dog friendly,
Alice
Thanks for heads up! Will mark nh off list for staying!
Cathy, check our pinned comment for more Northeast states that aren’t dog friendly,
Alice
See I like the pets not allowed. Because I have been next to camper with dogs and they braked most of the time.
Rick, I have camped near irresponsible campers with and without dogs so I understand,
Alice
Aw I'm so sorry that happened!
Christina, thank you. But now many people are now aware of the issue in New Hampshire,
Alice
Yes, holiday weekends are hard to find empty sites.
Huge Hugs🤗🤗
Thanks. We don’t have the best timing. After all, we went full time the virus was name 🤣
Alice
This is so crazy. Almost every camper or RV'r has a pet!! 😢 This is great info for travelers.
There is definitely a high number of RVers that have pets. Unfortunately, northeast state parks are VERY pet restrictive.
But really this about not making our mistake- read ALL the fine print.
For instance, Ellacoya also doesn’t allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully- strange rules for a state park campground
Nothing saying no cats.
Idiots that let their dogs run free and those who leave them out to bark all night have done their damage. I don't want hear a barking dog all day or all night, and I don't want strange dogs in my campsite, you never know how a dog is going to react to strangers.
Steve, unfortunately there are disrespectful campers of all kinds.
But really we want people to double check rules so this doesn’t happen to them - not just dog owners. This campground also does not allow RVs that can’t hookup to sewer,
Alice
Dogs are so precious!!!!!!!!
Yes. And we wouldn’t force our dog on anyone.
But the northeast state parks are very dog restrictive.
Plus, this campground doesn’t allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully? Strange
You guys are awesome, love your energy. You guys just gained a new subscriber, glad everything worked out in the end :) .
Thanks. We tried to make this more light hearted than at the time in happened.
Really, our main goal has always been to help other RVers- which includes showing our mistakes.
Unfortunately, because of Larrys rare disease, we aren’t making the videos we would like to. But if you just found us, there are plenty of videos to catch up on while Larry gets better 🤗
Thanks for letting me know. I love staying at places that do not allow dogs.
Then you will love the northeast- of course no dogs automatically means a clean and quiet park 🤣
Just make sure you don’t have the wrong type of RV or you can’t stay
Alice
Preplanning is a must. Although I do not agree with the no pet policy, due to some specific instances, I understand it. My wife and I were walking our dogs at a State Park in TN. Suddenly, 3 dogs came charging out from a campsite and they were far from offering a friendly greeting. They were also extremely lucky that their owners were able to grab the long ropes they were attached to (but nothing on the other end) and pulled them back. One of my dogs was a huge Boxer (he can lay his head on the dining room table and he weighs in at 115 lbs.) and the other was an 85 lb. Choc. Lab. I assure you, the Boxer alone would have actually killed all three of their dogs. He's very protective of PaPa.
Another instance was at the same park. A large German Shepard was on a long lead rope (at least 30 ft.) and it charged out at an elderly couple walking by the campsite. I informed the Park Ranger and when he went to talk to the owners, the dog attacked him. They were forced to leave and banned from the park.
When some people fail to control their pets, or their pets are extremely dangerous towards others, it ruins it for all of us.
Sorry that happened. I had to report a dog left out alone in 80 plus heat for hours - crying. It was so sad.
People are the problem. Litter, not respecting fellow campers or nature.
But it surprised us because it’s a state park. Then we found out many northeast state campgrounds are very pet restrictive.
Stranger still is that Ellacoya doesn’t allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully- strange state park.
Thanks for sharing your story,
Alice
Very good video. Question: what camera are you using to film this? Thanks
Sony A6500 when filming us just talking.
It should be in our Amazon store - link in description
Last year we had a 2020 Eagle Cap 1165 ($62,000+) truck camper and were turn away by 3 different camp grounds. Thanks for posting.
Wow. I didn’t know that. Ellacoya required you to have full hookups. I’ve never seen that before.
Sorry you went through that,
Alice
Nobody cares how much your rig cost tex.
@@wildgoosedreaming1 I believe the point he was making is that some RV parks don’t accept campers that don’t live up to a certain standard. Like truck campers. Ellacoya makes it so many campers can’t go there since they can’t fully hookup with a sewer system
Alice
@@wildgoosedreaming1 My point was most campgrounds think of truck campers as old used grandfather's hunting campers. Mine was not and it was built better then most travel trailers. I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers goose. It's all good. :-*
Thanks for sharing! I love your videos! I live in SWFL and love exploring the FL Springs. Safe travels!
Thank you. We have lots of videos about Florida springs in state parks and in the Ocala National Forest.
Thanks for watching,
Alice
What a shame! I hate knowing that other people that don’t pick up after their dog ruined this for you. We did not get kicked out but knew we couldn’t go to certain places do to our dogs. sorry you went through this. take care my friend
Thanks. I think the low percentage of dog owners in NH had something to do with it, too
Alice
Thankyou nice to know
Check the pinned comment - many northeast state parks have heavy pet restrictions
Glad I watched this! I am moving to NH with my dog. Will have to research carefully.
Jane, yes. I only looked at state parks. So I’m not sure about city and county,
Alice
omg you guys, I am so sorry! I live in NH, have always had dogs, never been able to camp in the most desirable state parks. I have written hate mail to the state and have gotten very defensive answers back from them... anyway, I have never stayed at one, in spite of being a NH property tax payer!! Maine is more normal and has super state parks. So enjoy Maine. When you get to the coast, enjoy some lobster and steamers and cold beers!! I think your map shows you're crossing at Calais (pronounced like that rough spot on your skin)/St Stephen? That's where we always cross. The airline route is quite an interesting roller coaster. Mark used to drive tankers and big rigs across that back in the day. We watched Rankin and Strang's news conference earlier this week, I think NS is under a lot of pressure from the surrounding provinces. Mark is so anxious to get going, he's talking about the 18th, but I don't think NS will let us in until possibly end of June. We may just head up to the Bangor/Brewer area, get tested and cross when we hear something positive. Hoping you have an excellent time in Maine!!
Wow. I can’t imagine paying for these state parks and not being able to use them 😡. NH is out since we prefer state parks and none of them allow you to leave your dog in the RV - at all?
Maine is amazing. We love it.
NB just opened to NS. We are crossing 1st of July- Canada’s version of 4th of July 😅
I hope you guys get to see some great things no matter where.
It’s been a crazy year. Let’s hope it’s behind us soon 🤗
Alice
I hope you're not one of the pompous NH people someone called out in the comments. You sound very nice except for the hate mail.
Thanks for a great story. Sorry to hear about your experience in NH. Glad you found a site in ME. Crossing NH off the list as a destination.
John, thanks, but we just want people to be careful about rules.
Check out our pinned comment to see more northeastern states that have heavy restrictions,
Alice
It would be a shame to cross N.H off the list because one State park does not allow dogs. There are plenty of Rv parks that do allow dogs. I know I have stayed at plenty of them, I also lived in N.H. for twenty years. All you have to do IMHO is visit a parks direct website and in N.H. book early for prime vacation days as everything fills up quickly.
AWE..... You brought me to tears... My Scrappy crossed over the Rainbow Bridge & looked just like yours except mine was solid cream colored. So sweet. How could anyone turn away a Scrappy so cute??? ;)
Jane, sorry for your loss. Our Yorkie Chewie left us just before Christmas.
I can’t imagine camping without my dog,
Alice
Good info. We travel with our two small dogs so New Hampshire will be off our list. I will be paying closer attention when searching for sites. We have been fortunate because we have been able to avoid the No Pet parks mostly because they have it included in their search criteria.
Thank you. Yes. This can’t happen on the Maine website.
Reserve America should require you to click pet or no pet,
Alice
It’s a few that create problems for the majority. We left a park in Florida and went to a no pet section because of irresponsible dog owners letting their dogs barking at 6am every morning. Maybe it doesn’t annoy them but it did us.
@@wrextre I agree but I wish they would deal with those causing the problems but it seems these days they would rather just make every pet owner responsible or not pay the price.
@@wrextre I have reported barking dogs- as well as loud people past quiet hours,
Alice
@@Jd-yc3gw I agree. I have found rangers do not like to enforce rules- unless they are pushed,
Alice
Good morning guys. I hope you are doing well. NH is my state of residence and I’m a dog owner. I’m sorry to say that I agree with the no pets rule and wish it was everywhere. I know, coming from a dog owner, this sounds weird but hear me out. There is nothing that I dislike more than hearing a dog barking all day and walking in dog’s poop. I’m a responsible dog owner. Just like I did with the children, I never leave my dog alone and I find a dog sitter every time I have to leave. If I can’t find a dog sitter, just like when I couldn’t find a baby sitter, I stay home with the dog. This way, it doesn’t bark all day unsupervised. I know that my opinion will not reach a majority of your followers but I feel that I am respectful, this way, of others. I wish you the best day ever. Love your channel.
Michel, I totally understand. And I love that you shared this with us.
Believe me, there are a lot of bad apple dog owners that make me wish they would get kicked out of a campground.
We were just not used to it. And I wish it was more clear when booking.
I can tell you love your fur baby as much as we do 🐾 ❤️
Thanks for watching and sharing a NH dog owner viewpoint,
Alice
Yes, always penalize the masses for the stupidity and carelessness of a few.
@@bobkatc9368 it is a shame bad dog owners ruin it for others. Imagine paying all those taxes in New Hampshire and not having many state parks where you can bring your dog?
Alice
I agree with you totally!
I totally agree with you! I am a total dog lover and owner of six dogs, but I would never impose my dogs on people the way so many RV camp dog owners do. I’ve been staying in my RV off and on for four months and have someone taking care of my dogs and can’t believe how irresponsible some dog owners are. I was at one park where my neighbor tied their Husky outside of the trailer and the dog stands out there and howls all the time. I’ve seen dog owners letting their dogs go to the bathroom right by a no dog poo sign and leave it. Going for a walk I have walked in a ‘no children” area but it’s full of dogs and it’s like walking in a dog kennel. So it’s not ok to have children in an area because they’re too noisy but sure let your dogs be unruly and noisy. People leave their dogs in small pens outside of their trailers unattended and also barking at everything. If you went to the RV office to complain they would have to reprimand or kick so many people out! This is why it is necessary to have ‘no dog’ rules in so many parks now, it’s not the dogs, it’s the people who allow their dogs to be such a public nuisance.
Wow! What a surprise! Did you know that Moss Park in Orlando area is a NO pet campground. We have no pets but most reservations ask about pets, extra people etc. I’m glad you were able to continue your RV life!
Paul, we are used to state park campgrounds in Florida that allow dogs.
It would be nice if the reservation system always asked about pets,
Alice
Thank you 😎
Rick, thanks for always coming by,
Alice
Thanks for the heads up long time New Hampshire resident. Kind a ridiculous people pass these laws at a campground. I plan on having my own property and may be renting out a couple of spots. As long as I don’t get too rowdy of a crowd or partiers. I’m pretty good LOL like my hiking trails people need to pick shit up. And not just throw the poop bags in the woods!
Craig, I agree with you. We may have a homebase one day. People need to clean up, with or without a dog.
But really we just want people to expect the unexpected rules- like at Ellacoya, they don’t allow certain types of RVs,
Alice
Hi! I just came across your channel. I feel your pain with Scrappy being unwelcome! I'm from Maine. I live about an hour south of Camden on one of our many islands! We love to camp and also have a large black lab mix. We were planning a camping trip about 3 hours away last year with rain forecasted Friday night. It was a tenting trip and a first come first serve state park. So the plan was to get close the park and get a hotel Friday night. I couldn't for the life of me find a hotel that accepted dogs! I know that's not exactly the same situation but just as frustrating I'm sure! I hope you find Maine more dog friendly, as I'm sure you will! Welcome to Maine and happy camping!
Holly, yes! It basically is the same. We went to a funeral and didn’t move our RV. So we looked for a hotel that accepted dogs. Not many. And they charged sooo much extra. Ugh!
We love having a dog, but it does change your lifestyle.
We love Maine. We hope to have several days at Acadia ❤️
I hope camping in the future is less stressful- for all of us 🐾 ❤️
Alice
This is surprising to hear. I love pets but I’m, sadly, highly allergic. We have a very hard time finding hotels that don’t allow pets. Soon, I don’t think it will be possible to find a hotel that doesn’t allow pets, anywhere. Even airlines now allow pets. If an allergic person has a problem with a pet being on a flight, the person with the allergies will have to schedule another flight, not the people with a pet. We live in strange times.
@@julianachandler2975 really the surprise was that it was at a state park.
But Ellacoya also doesn’t allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully?
So sorry this happened I lived in NH over 40 years and did not know this, but I also did not camp at any State Parks there just private. I hope you still got to see some of the beautiful area attractions.
Stephen, we couldn’t do anything. One of us had to always be with Scrappy so she didn’t bark. So Larry filmed the sunset without me.
Plus we were there less than 48 hours.
Maybe on our way back, we can try to get in one of the ones that allow dogs- but reservations are so hard to get these days at state parks.
Thank you for coming by. Please share if you know someone that this could help,
Alice
I'm so sorry you had to go thru all of this. We ran into this at a MD state park where some of the sites allowed dogs and some didn't. Luckily we had one that did. There was even some volunteer riding around on a golf cart that told us we couldn't even walk our dogs PAST the sites where dogs weren't allowed. The park was Janes Island state park near Crisfield MD
Wow. Now that’s strict. We did stay at a northeast state park that had dog loops - which made more sense. It seems like a northeast issue.
What we want people to learn is there are many unexpected rules- like Ellacoya didn’t allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully.
Alice
It's unfortunate but bad owners have caused this to be the case. We always had dogs until we retired and began RVing. It sickens me how many of these dogs that people just can't live without get left in the RVs all day by themselves barking and yelping. Every park that allows dogs states in their rules that barking dogs will not be tolerated yet these park owners and managers never want to do anything about violations.
Michelle, it is a shame that all rules are not followed- not just pertaining to dogs.
As a full time traveler, we do leave our dog home alone- just like we did when we had a sticks and bricks. But we spent a great deal of time and money to make sure we don’t disturb other campers. I wish that were true for all campers,
Alice
This happened to us once while staying at Lamoine State Park in Downeast Maine! This dog was left in a tent all day and it was too hot inside and the dog barked constantly for about an hour! Finally we went to the rangers station and the Park Ranger went to the site and ended up taking the dog back to his residence which was located at the entrance gate and left a note for the owners!! That dog was so happy sitting in the rangers pickup truck and still had to wait a few more hours before the screwball owner’s returned
Great information!!
Unfortunately too many dog owners have ruined it for others and with the "pandemic dogs" it's even gotten worse. While we often pass through and usually stay a few nights in NH, have not run into the no dogs situation. We also have a seasonal site in the NY Adirondacks that we will be giving up after 15 years with the dog situation and inconsiderate owners letting them poop wherever and bark with no longer any control by the CG owners, My only advice to you - you have read the fine print better. Oh and we have two mid size pups that do not bark
Yes. Unfortunately disrespectful campers have ruined for others campers - not just dogs- so many rules not followed making camping not what it used to be.
But you are right and stating our main point - read the fine point. For instance, Ellacoya doesn’t allow certain types of RVs
Alice
My dog dog does not poop.
@@johnnyringo0506
I want one of them!!!
Thank you so very much for sharing your story and For taking the time to make it this video
My husband and I are Selling our 2 story off grid log cabin on 5 acres
And we are going to start the RV life we have three huskies we have retired from dog sledding and we have retired from work so we are now going to be joining you in the RV life bless you on your trip
Make sure you check rules even if a park/campground allows pets. Some restrict how many and/or size.
Good luck 🤗
@@DownsizingMakesCents Thank you very very very much for all your help have fun on your travels
I am originally from Maine, we live in Florida now. I never knew that State parks in NH didn't allow dogs. we have been to NH parks many times, not camping but for the day. Nice to know as we are about to buy an RV. Thank you for sharing!!!
Maine was much more dog friendly
Safe travels with the new RV 🤗
So often here in the Southeast US state parks it seems like 90% of the campers have dogs. The iconic rite of passage for the new RV camper is walking the dog around the campground loop and chatting with friendly neighbors, usually about each others dogs. Glad we don't live in pompous New Hampshire.
I’m getting more comments about other NE state parks. I’m so surprised. But Maine isn’t like that at all. But also, thanks have had NH residents surprised. I think Ellacoya in particular wasn’t like other state parks- no fire rings? You are required to have water, power, and sewer hooked up?
We have always had dogs- when we had a sticks and bricks and now that our RV is our home. Some people just don’t get it. Which is fine. Some behavior by people in campgrounds I don’t get either- whether they have a dog or not.
We just will skip NH and any other state campgrounds that make it obvious they don’t want dogs,
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Ya'll need to go south. Friendly, dog friendly, cheap, clean, freedom!
@@linda8is Carolyn, yes. We lived in Florida all our camping years. But Maine is super dog friendly- only 1 state park campground doesn’t allow dogs and you can’t book it by mistake.
Alice
Unfortunate use of words. Pompous? Generally people are not like that at all in NH. If previous dog owners were more responsible then it probably would not have been a problem. I'll bet someone got bit, filled a law suit that ruined it for everyone else. Had that person had control of their dog then it wouldn't have been an issue.
@@muggywebster1117 Possible, but it looks like northeast state parks have many more restrictions than other state parks. I have a list in our pinned comment.
I didn’t meet enough people from NH to form an opinion one way or another. The ranger was nice. There just was nothing he could do?
I try not to address personal attacks 😕
Alice
I love camping and I think it is fair to not allow dogs at every camp ground. It's like 🚬. Non smoking areas and smoking areas. Some people are not into dogs.
Deb, I understand that. We were just surprised because Florida state parks aren’t like this.
Plus, getting reservations is so hard now. Add limiting where you can camp even more makes it hard.
We just wanted people that don’t normally camp at state parks in the NE to know this so they don’t make our mistake.
BTW- I would love a nonsmoking campground 🤣
Alice
It’s bovine scatterings
I like dogs but the last time I camped the people next to me leashed 3 dogs right on the edge of our site and they barked all day long. It drove me crazy. I’m not such a fan of dogs at campgrounds anymore...
@@fastdude2002 irresponsible dog owners that don't train their dogs and take care of them makes it difficult for others to enjoy their stay. Usually if you contact the office they will look into it.
I'm a GINORMOUS dog lover; sadly, it's the owners of the dogs that ruin it for everyone by not cleaning up, not leashing, and neglecting them for hours by leaving them alone to howl. Ugh.
Great information 👍
Maria, thanks. Since we travel full time with our dog, we can never stay at any NH state park since they don’t allow you to ever leave your dog in the camper even in campgrounds that allow dogs?
Share with other camping dog owners, please 🤗
Alice
I will share this information 😊
@@Maria37700 🤗
As soon as I saw which one it was I knew what it was going to be. Some do take them. The sun sets there are beautiful.
Kristie, don’t run it in 😅 As the ranger was talking to me that first night, I saw it was so beautiful. Oh well. Larry saw it the next night by himself because we were afraid Scrappy might bark or cry even for a minute if we both went down to the beach.
Lesson learned,
Alice
Wow! Never knew that campgrounds existed that did not allow pets! We live and camp in TN. We have had run ins with bad pet owners, ourselves. Even run ins with people who detest dogs. I have a rather large service animal and she is well controlled and behaved. She is not perfect but we have more issues with smaller dogs running up to her barking. Beautiful pup, btw!
@@DownsizingMakesCents I completely know how you feel!!!
many state parks in the east only allow pets in the off season. DE, MD...
They are required by law to allow registered service dogs with appropriate paperwork and rabies vaccine confirmation.
@@marciacummings3720 service dogs are not registered. I mean she has a vest but there is no database for service animals. Ones that claim that they can register the dog as a service animal are frauds as per my service animals registered trainer. Places say they want proof but it is against the law.
Excellent information! Thank you! I will investigate more.
We have a river park near us with “no pets” signs every 20 feet or so and people still bring their dogs constantly. I personally don’t mind dogs in a park during the day (but the barking would drive me crazy at night when trying to sleep), but rules are rules and I get really annoyed seeing people breaking the rules on purpose. At least you guys did it unintentionally.
Thanks. We would not want to be at a campground that didn’t want dogs - it was really awkward.
We really were just letting people know that even some state parks have different rules.
We check more carefully for now on,
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Every mistake can become a lesson if you learn from it. ☺️
Yes. And we did
I try to find parks where there aren't dogs.. there's nothing worse than annoying lil dogs yapping all of the time, and stepping in dog feces.
And no, we don't hate dogs.. we own a teacup poodle.
@@FahimibnDawud we wish people were more respectful of other campers- dog owners and non dog owners,
Alice
I rescue dogs and I drove a rescued dog from Southern California to New Hampshire to his adopter. I had to stay in Massachusetts in order to find a place to camp that would accept dogs. Fortunately the adopter lived right over the border so it was only a 30 minute drive from the Minuteman campground in MA to her house. That doggie Casper is in his new home over a year now and doing great.
Linda, that’s awesome. We actually adopted a dog through a service like that. And o worked with a couple of rescue groups in Florida.
Our main concern is for people to not assume anything just because it’s a state park - dog rules is just part of it. Certain RVs aren’t allowed either.
Keep up the great work. Our last 5 dogs were adopted 🐾 ❤️
Alice
Sorry to about this Larry and Alice. But glad you were able to find another campground. They should have put it on their webcite about no pets. Made more clearer or something and it made a bigger sign in the entrance. Sad you can’t have pets there. Hope you have a great night and better week and a great nice stay where you went from the place that kicked you out. See you both soon and scrappy too!
Sherri, I agree. But it was there. That’s why I say it’s my fault. But we learned our lesson.
Maine is a beautiful state. We are loving it here. Scrappy, too,
Alice
2019 GD, 310... Have to toss my 2 cents worth in here!! A few pet owners ruin it for everyone else!! If I owned an RV park, It would be NO PETS, For many reasons I do not travel with a pet, It's Not Fair to the Pet!!! (unless its 2 legged an can do dishes!! lol)(So many people think the leash laws an poop rules are for everyone, but them!!) Was in an RV park near Caldwell, Idaho, Was getting ready to break camp to leave when thru the window I could see the lady next door, standing in her RV doorway, holding a leash, I moved to see that she was letting her dog hike its leg an was peeing on MY truck tire!!! She just stood there watching her dog piss on my tire!!! I banged on the window, she quickly pulled her dog inside an shut the door!! I walked out by my truck, looked at the pee puddle, looked at her window's, a couple times... She got the message!! When I was checking out, I mentioned to the park manager what had happened, when I told him what space number, he got mad, said that's it!! She's out of here this morning!! She's not staying the rest of her reservation!! Jumped in his golf cart took off down the road... Have No idea what he did? If anything? Then there was the time in Seattle Wash. I called the park manager at 2:am, Told him, If he did not get that barking dog shut up, I was filling a dispute on my credit card against the park!! He kicked them out at 2:15am... Another time, near Sacto. Ca. pulled up to my assigned spot, got out to check things before backing in, found 3 big dog dumps, went back to the office, told them I wanted another spot an why!! No other spots left had 30amp hook up, manager had to clean it up before I'd take that spot!! He told me it had to be the people that were in the spot next to mine earlier that morning, because they had a couple big dogs!! Like everyone knows, a few ruin it for everyone else!!! Seams to be the biggest complaint is people not picking up after their pets, even cat owners!! Think more an more parks should go to NO Pets!!!!
The point of the video is to check ALL the rules for each campground you go to.
I see you have had some bad experience with dogs. But I can write a book about bad experiences with campers that don’t have pets.
Campers should be more respectful of other campers - period.
We travel full time with Scrappy. Instead left home alone in our sticks and bricks 9-5 and only getting to hike every once and awhile, she’s with all the time. Hikes all the time.
But not every lifestyle is for everyone.
Take care,
Alice
I have seen dogs pee on tires all my life. They love to do that. That would never freak me out and I would never make a federal case out of that.
@@joanmorgan5318 But I still feel people should walk their dogs in other areas- not in someone else’s site. There are usually patches between sites that I let Scrappy pee.
Alice
@@joanmorgan5318 I'd had polished my wheels an put tire black polish on my tires just the day before!! Was a lot of work!! Wanted them to stay looking nice!! It was just the idea that she thought it was just okay to let her dog do that!!! Let her dog piss on her own tires!!!!
@@sd.1110 I saw someone put a sign next to their American flag pole - please don’t allow dogs to pee on. I couldn’t believe people would let their dog pee there?
Really it’s about respect. Some campers don’t respect the space of other campers. Shouldn’t it be like a rented piece of property with a house on it? I don’t let my dog pee on mailboxes either.
If I’m paying for a site? That’s my space. Your dogs, your kids, your stuff shouldn’t be in my site.
I totally get it,
Alice
The abusers always ruin a good thing. Have seen lots of them with their dogs letting them crap and not cleaning up at all. So, it is going to become more common to not allow pets.
Kevin, I know what you mean. Because so many people are littering on BLM land, some are being closed off.
Bad campers ruin it for others,
Alice
It just isn't camping. Just a few minutes ago I had to file a noise complaint against my neighbor for constant dog barking. I have a dog, he barks also, but he isn't left outside all day barking at the mercy of my neighbors. Campgrounds that restrict pets is obtuse, however, leaving your pet waste and non attended can be a problem.
Went to another campground with son and his family. They were going to be in a tent. Had to clean up dog crap before they could set up tent. Disgusting! It is very new campground and is mostly filled with pipeline workers. Numerous dogs on leashes out to the grassy area and NO picking anything up.
Yes - even at work the people who live in a high rise building beside us take their dogs and don't clean up their droppings! I have got out of my car a few times and stepped directly in the shit! Disgusting for sure. I would hate to be at a campground and encounter this situation.
We live in Maine, and started RVing with our dogs in 2020. I caught this issue early on in NH. We do more Boondockers Welcome in NH and there are some great people with RVs and dogs in NH that host on beautiful properties! BTW, the Sebago Lake State Park you mentioned in Maine is not the only state park in Maine that does not allow dogs - although you cannot even drive through the campground to even look at it with the dogs in the car! Baxter State Park in Maine also has a full prohibition against dogs!
Thanks for the info. When I looked at Maine State Parks info, that’s what it showed.
But we also thought it strange for a state park to also not allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully?
Alice
In New England Memorial Day Weekend is the first camping weekend of our camping season and we never travel north on a Friday on the weekend. There are lots of private campgrounds that do allow pups but you have to book way in advance.... January usually is a good month. 😉
Marcia, thanks for the tip.
We prefer state parks because they are often in more natural settings.
But really just don’t want surprise rules yo affect anyone - in Ellacoya, they also don’t allow certain types of RVs.
Alice
NH state moto live free or Die but don’t bring a dog. We’ll be passing by NH
We travel with our dog and he is better behaved than a lot of kids and adults. And we always pick up after him, we carried his poop 3 miles on a hike even though we could have left it out there no one was around.
Owen, we do the same thing on hikes.
And yes! There are more problems with people than dogs. Do people even parent when they camp 😆.
We are skipping NH for now on,
Alice
I am a dog owner. The problem are with dog owners and their dogs. i understand NH State parks policy, which do not want to deal with enforcing dog poop catching, deal with dog bites or fights. I like NH and continue to visit it.
@@videopyc Cloutier, unfortunately people with or without dogs do not follow rules.
But the point of the video is to not make our mistake. Double check rules - this campground doesn’t allow certain RVs- I’ve never seen that at a campground,
Alice
I live in NH we do not use state parks. We use Koa and other private camp grounds.
I agree. We travel with 2 dogs that go everywhere with us and are always leashed with us when outside. They carry poop bags in their harness pockets and we always pick up after them, but many others don't. Unfortunately, I've seen many people letting their dogs off leash and running into other sites. And still, most dogs are better behaved than a lot of the children we see. Just yesterday evening a huge RV pulled in beside us and their 3 kids got out, immediately found the apple tree and started throwing big apples. We were so afraid they were going to break a window out of a truck or camper but the parents were oblivious. My grown son finally had to step out and say something to them. My dogs are better behaved than many kids these days.
Come out west. Dogs are never going to be an issue. I recommend Indian Campground in Buffalo, Wyoming. Huge trees with all day shade plus a short drive to the Bighorn Mountains. Buffalo is an awesome mountain town with all the amenities you need. Come one, come all..... !
Thanks. We definitely have the west in our future. And we appreciate the tip on the campground,
Alice
no dogs , no jet skis. Sounds like a nice quiet , relaxing place.
Really Sorry about your experience.
Well, there are still people there so how quiet can it be?
But really this is about checking ALL rules - some types of RVs aren’t allowed here,
Alice
Thanks for sharing. We have 3 pups, which we have found it difficult to find places to stay as 2 dogs seem to be the max, if allowed at all. Looks like we will have to avoid that area altogether. So sad. Annoys me that others have ruined it for those of us who do pickup after our pups and do not leave our pups alone to bark continuously. Our sticks and bricks house, which we are selling, has inconsiderate neighbors as well. It’s a beautiful neighborhood, except for those few.
One of the reasons I was ready to sell is because our neighbors the Hatfields had dogs that attacked my son and my dogs - they never stayed on their property.
Unfortunately, the northeast state parks are not dog friendly.
It is a shame that people ruin camping for others
You can be sure I will never be going camping in New Hampshire State Park
James, we can’t! We travel full time with our dog. Even the ones that allow dogs state you can never leave them alone?
Alice
Same!
@@johnjones-yt8rt Maybe, but there are people much louder and more annoying than dogs 🤣
@Michelle Chaney Michelle, it does read no pets. I think you would have to call the campground and ask. It seems more to be about dogs, but I would check,
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Ban them as well.
So sad…. Our pooch loves camping as much as we do. Good information to be aware of.
Sandra, it was so weird. And poor Scrappy couldn’t even look out the windows 😢 🐾
Share this with fellow dog owners if you think it will help,
Alice
I like that state. Good for them.
Lots of northeast state parks have pet restrictions.
This place also did not allow tents, campsite fires, or RVs without full hookups
Alice
Ohhhh noooo. I don't like em now. Gotta have da fire
Aaaw so sorry. You guys seems so sweet. I know you will be extra vigilant now.
Thank you. Yes - we definitely check the rules for now on,
Alice
Bless your little hearts. No dogs crapping everywhere. More power to them.
Yeah, just diapers, cigarettes, beer bottles 🤣 But good thing the campground is clean because there aren’t dogs 😉
@@DownsizingMakesCents Yeah, if everyone would pick up after themselves and their little darlings, things would be a lot better for everyone.
"Live Free or Die", unless you have a dog
We were sooo tempted to say that 🤣 but we didn’t want to upset NH people,
Alice
Speaking of dogs, we stayed at a nice rv park once. The rv across from us decided to leave their dogs in the rv while they go out boating. Pretty soon, that rv was rocking back and forth and barking like you've never heard before. I watched one of the dogs rip the blinds down over the sink area. I can't imagine what that rv looked like after a couple hours of doggy mayhem lol.
Sounds like people new to RVing with dogs. I’m kind of glad their irresponsibility kicked them in the butt 😉
We spent a great deal of time training our dogs before we traveled full time with them.
It’s a shame bad dog owners ruin it for others. Just like bad campers in general ruin a camping trip 🤗
Dolly Copp Campground in Gorham, NH allows dogs. It’s the oldest and largest campground in the White Mountain National Forest and it’s only 30-45 minute drive from the Quebec border. I’ve camped at Camden State Park a few times, great place.
Casey, Camden was awesome. We are glad we found it.
Thanks for the tip about Dolly - I’ll check it out if we are up that way again.
It was just surprising that a state park had these rules - like no tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully? So strange,
Alice
This is such an important video, I can see how easily this was missed, and honestly I hope it urges online booking sites to be more responsible. I too do just about everything on my cell phone. We are NOT the minority, our hand held technology makes it so convenient. Recently I was making a reservation thru the Texas Parks and Wildlife website and its interface for mobile was almost pathetic. There just is no excuse, travelers aren’t sitting at a static desk top computer with a 24” monitor.
Thank you for getting it. But it was there so they are covered.
Each state, each campground is so different. Since NH has dog and no dog campgrounds- it should be more clear.
I do almost everything on my iPhone- except edit videos 🤣
Take care,
Alice
Two signs at the entrance and a note on their website and you claim "how easily this was missed." You'd have to be blind to miss it. You're the dog owner. It's your responsibility - and your cellphone is not an excuse. It's one of the very first things we check.
@@robinstewart6510 that’s great. But many people don’t realize that state park campgrounds in the northeast are very restrictive.
And we weren’t making excuses. We were explaining.
And the whole point of the video was to show OUR MISTAKE and make sure others don’t do this.
This state “campground” also doesn’t allow tents, campsite fires or RVs that can’t hook up fully.
Sorry you missed that the point where I told Larry I messed up.
Also, if campgrounds put in the reservation system to click pet or not just like you have to input size of RV, this would solve this particular problem.
However, again, our point was don’t make our mistake - check ALL the fine print