Chopin's Favourite Chord
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2023
- Ever wondered what makes Chopin sound like...well, Chopin...?
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I have noticed this! I play so much Chopin and it's literally everywhere. I love the feeling of tension it adds to an otherwise regular dominant.
Great video! And I love how you’ve strung the various examples together in such a musically thoughtful way!
I can read music. I can play the piano. & then there’s you! Wow. What talent.
That was incredibly kind of you to acknowledge my comment. You have the most expressive hands; your talent is amazing; & it will be my pleasure to share with my friends the wonderfully gifted gentleman I listened to on UA-cam today.
Della McGowan
Not only in chopin, but it's abundant in scriabins work as well. Such a beautiful sound, and it expresses unfulfilled longing and sentimentality better than any other chord
You're gonna reeeeally like my upcoming video on Scriabin... ;)
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It's also in the codas of both the Third Ballade and the Polonaise-Fantaisie! And possibly in a ton of other pieces too haha
Quite right! I originally had many more examples, but I think people get the point after 30...
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its also used in the second chorale like theme of the cello sonata?
Very insightful video! Thanks Frederick.
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it :)
I'm currently learning Op. 7 No. 3, the last of the Op. 7 set for me, and I really love it
Oh boy, has this chord given me headches! I first discovered it in the Ballade No. 1 in G minor some 20 years ago, but I still don't understand how that third works on the dominant chord when it does not descend to the fifth of chord. Is it an anticipation of the third of the tonic the dominant resoves to? I don't know, but regardless, it sounds great! This is the kind of harmonic inventiveness that is said to have driven his publishers insane.
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You're not dealing with impressionist, jazz, pop or rock harmonies where 6ths, 7ths, 9ths and so forth need not be prepared or resolved. You are analyzing a romantic-era piece from the wrong harmonic framework.
Excellent 👌👌
More of these please :) one of Schubert?
Yeah it's my favourite
It’s been way too long since the previous video. Don’t torture us like this. And where is that lovely posh voice? I crave hearing your dulcet tones. Fred
I haven't had much time lately I'm afraid! Finished off a PhD and tried (unsuccessfully for now) to get a job...Stay tuned for 23rd...
1:19 There is a mistake, consider changing the subtitle from Sonata No. 2 to No. 3
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Ah used to have a window by the rain when ah was a kid.
Cuttin to the chase, in 'jazz', ' a 13th chord'? Usually w 'dominant 7th'?
Any case, glad google reprsented you! And ya chose the right man, imvho.
What would you call this chord?
I've seen various theorists (e.g Peter Sabbagh) refer to it as the 'Chopin Chord'. Technically, it's a V7 with an accented non-chord tone (E) which resolves down by step to the fifth (D). Occassinally, he doesn't resolve this dissonance, in which case you could call it a dominant 13th!
V7(add13)
Well what is the chord?
Essentially V7(add13), i.e. a dominant 7th chord with the 13th note of the scale attached. So in the key of C this would be G B D F (G7) + E (13th). Keep in mind though that you will often find it in many different forms e.g. with some of the notes absent, or rearranged for the sake of voice leading - just watch out for that 13th!
I love this chord but I feel like its kinda pervasive like just across romantic music - like the first time I ever came across this chord was the famous part in the finale to Mahler 2 LOL
Fair enough! It certainly is. But I think, as another commenter pointed out, it's as much the voicing and other features (dotted rhythms, added 3rd etc.) which make it so particular to him.
beethoven uses this chord to great effect in his pathetique 2nd movement
It's a pet peeve of mine that this chord is associated with Chopin all the time, when pretty much every other Romantic composer used it profusely. You can find it in Brahms, Verdi, Tchaikovsky, etc. I guess what Chopin did is he made this chord a staple of Romantic harmony, but when I hear it, I don't necessarily think of Chopin's music, it doesn't have a 'face' to me.
What is the chord
@@dzordzszsBasically a V7 chord with an added 13th, i.e. with the third of that key signature added e.g. in C major it would be G-B-D-F with an added E
@@mouf725 I'd add that the voicing matters: F and E are always apart, never forming a minor second, the fifth (D) is often omitted, and the voicing is spread. So a typical case of this chord in the key of C would be G-F-B-E (illustrated in the video).
@@mouf725 thx
@@dzordzszs np :)