The many, MANY failed VW Beetle Reboots!

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  • @BigCar2
    @BigCar2  3 роки тому +74

    Erratum: The German Economic Miracle should also be credited to the daring switch to a market economy and currency switch lead by Ludwig Erhard. This freed up trade from the previous planned economy and caused an almost overnight change in economic prosperity in West Germany. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtschaftswunder

    • @davidraun117
      @davidraun117 3 роки тому +4

      The currency switch was also financial terrorism against The GDR , and the Wirtschaftswunder wouldn’t have taken place if the western allies hadn’t been able to convince other European nations to write off German’s war debt .

    • @nygelmiller5293
      @nygelmiller5293 2 роки тому

      @@davidraun117 so why was it against the GDR?Please explain!

    • @zepter00
      @zepter00 2 роки тому

      You mean destroying and robbing half of the .europe amd beeing rebuilt itself with american money from Marshal Plan? Just in Poland Germans Robbed and destroyed property worth more than 900 bilion $ making Poland the most destroyed country in ww2 with human losses of almost 6 milion Poles... and forgot to pay war reperations.

    • @jeffking4176
      @jeffking4176 2 роки тому +1

      One car missing, the Volkswagen K-70.
      🙂📻

    • @Christopher_Bachm
      @Christopher_Bachm 2 роки тому

      Mine was a '66 - white with red interior

  • @Larry
    @Larry 3 роки тому +800

    I'm quite surprised VW haven't announced an electric Beetle yet, the quirkyness would be ideal for an EV.

    • @dimethedude
      @dimethedude 3 роки тому +95

      Nah they’re too busy fixing emission controls to by pass tests

    • @redrobbo9290
      @redrobbo9290 3 роки тому +38

      It makes a lot of sense ev skateboard floorpan with bolt on bodies

    • @wendigockel
      @wendigockel 3 роки тому +55

      Electric cars are a scam

    • @Swat_Dennis
      @Swat_Dennis 3 роки тому +82

      It would be a whole lot better than any and all those stupid SUV EV's

    • @BRED510
      @BRED510 3 роки тому +24

      That's ear marked for the future. Technically the ID3 is the electric Beetle.

  • @flori5548
    @flori5548 3 роки тому +282

    This is barely just a “car story” but rather a full history lesson - a magnificent one!

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому +33

      Yeah, it's history by stealth. Ssshhh don't tell anyone!

    • @casinodelonge
      @casinodelonge 3 роки тому +5

      Its a pretty amazing thing for a victorious set of nations to offer a hand up to the vanquished nation. It would have been interesting to see the effect of a post WW1 "Marshall PLan"!

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 3 роки тому +4

      @@BigCar2 By the way, the reason that the factory effectively survived the war was poor British quality control. As three of the block buster bombs didn't detonate and one blew a crater in the parking lot...

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому +4

      @@davidhollenshead4892 Also the fact that it was in the countryside, away from commercial centres. But yes, those bombs would have made the factory a right mess.

    • @touraneindanke
      @touraneindanke 2 роки тому

      Incompleet unfortunately

  • @cisium1184
    @cisium1184 3 роки тому +149

    I bought a '76 in 1996 and drove it for ten years. Ran like a top. I bought the Idiot Manual, learned all the car's quirks, and did most of the maintenance myself. It was incredibly easy to work on, not just because the engine was simple but because it was perfectly mounted so you could sit comfortably on a little stool and work on it. Stupidly, I sold it because I was going on a 6-month hike and the car would have cost more than its resale value to store. Regretted it ever since. Loved that car.

    • @joebruno2675
      @joebruno2675 3 роки тому +21

      I have a 77 Beetle and it is the most reliable car I ever owned. It is also the cheapest in repairs.

    • @imadequate3376
      @imadequate3376 2 роки тому +3

      I have a friend who put a small block chevy in the Frunk, and baja bugged his, scariest thing I've ever ridden in but it's so damn fun.
      You can Subaru boxer engine swap the bugs and busses and you'll fly especially with a turbo kit.

    • @glenhardy4770
      @glenhardy4770 2 роки тому +1

      +Cisium I bought a 1970 Beetle in about 2007 and it was nothing but a money-pit. Every time I drove it to the Pacific coast from 2 hours inland, it developed problems. I finally sold it in 2014 for $500 and have never regretted its departure. Volkswagen should have engineered a 5-speed for it! My next German auto will either be a BMW or a 911.

    • @imadequate3376
      @imadequate3376 2 роки тому +2

      @@glenhardy4770 Get a '68 BMW 2002 or be unique and find yourself a Opel Commodore or Ascona or Monza. All good looking cars.

    • @glenhardy4770
      @glenhardy4770 2 роки тому

      @@imadequate3376 Thank you for the guidance, much appreciated!

  • @BRED510
    @BRED510 3 роки тому +281

    And whilst the Golf's numbers surpassed the Beetle, it wasn't the same car, the Beetle was basically the same car for its 65 year lifespan, whereas the Golf was on its 4th incarnation then, each model a complete redesign of the one before.

    • @MrHBSoftware
      @MrHBSoftware 3 роки тому +16

      golf 1 2 and 3 share many components for example engines and suspension....the golf1 1.6d engine also was available on the golf 2 and on the 3 it was 1,9 liters but the same design...gearboxes are also similar and interchangeable to some extent...suspension arms , shocks etc and they are also compatible with the passat and seat ibiza..and many other parts...but yes the design was changed from model to model

    • @peterullinger2814
      @peterullinger2814 3 роки тому +27

      That is not enterly true.
      True is, that the Golf got new models technically incompatible, while the Beetle got incremential updates.
      Also true is that they changed so much that you can´t use any part from a 1950´s beetle on a Mexico modell. Those two are almost as far off each other as the Golf 1 and Golf 2.
      They changed the suspension from simple rubber buffers up to McPerson shock absorbers, the steering from worm steering to steering gear, from electricity from 6V to 12 V, the wind screen washer pump from the spare tire´s pressure to an actual washer pump, and so, SO much more on and between the chassis and the body that normally would them two seperate models.
      On the other hand: those were all incremential updates which never ever justified a new model, so... it is complicated. Like a Ship of Theseus situation, almost.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 3 роки тому +7

      @@peterullinger2814 You forgeting that the Beetle was a rip off from pre WW2 Czechoslovak Tatra, Porsche give up Czechoslovak citizenship because of his German superiority complex but like every other true German Nazi he was happy to steal from Slavik people.
      "The court's statement tells us that the lawsuit was brought by the daughter of late car designer Erwin Komenda, who worked for Ferdinand Porsche in the 1930s. She alleged that the Beetle design was her father's, and so Volkswagen owed her family money on sales of the Beetles after 2014. Earlier models were subject to the statute of limitations."
      It would be funy if she would won the lawsuit as then Tatra could do the same to her... heh

    • @peterullinger2814
      @peterullinger2814 3 роки тому +7

      @@Bialy_1 Did I?
      Show me where I said ANYTHING ´bout that.
      That´s not the point of this thread and nobody in this thread said anything against what you said.
      So, just stop shadow boxing.

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому +11

      You are right. If Fiat would have kept the same name for it‘s „small familiy car“ over the decades instead of altering the name from 1100 via 128, Ritmo, Tipo, Brava/Bravo, Stilo, again Bravo and again Tipo - maybe everyone would say, the Fiat 1100 is the longest running car in history… Keeping the name of a car does not mean that the car stays the same. Toyota Corolla: looking at you, too…

  • @klasseact6663
    @klasseact6663 3 роки тому +251

    I enjoyed the hell out of this video because of all the rare photos of the prototypes that I have never seen in my life very interesting!

    • @gord307
      @gord307 3 роки тому +6

      Also have a google for the Skoda 932 (from 1932!) and Tatra V570 (from 1933), you will find them very interesting.

    • @nygelmiller5293
      @nygelmiller5293 3 роки тому +1

      To Klasse Act, EA 128, 4 door 2 litre silver saloon .Now THAT is a Klasse Act!

    • @kyledavis4890
      @kyledavis4890 3 роки тому +2

      Some of these prototypes are at the museum in Wolfsburg.

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra 3 роки тому

      I guess by the very nature of the video, that was to be taken for granted, but yes, it's so satisfying.

    • @VauxhallViva1975
      @VauxhallViva1975 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, I enjoyed those photos too, which I also had never seen. Great video. Lovely to see him saying the name correctly. Most people say: "Volkswagon", when it is pronounced: "VolksVagon" - the "W" is pronounced like a "V" in German, but so many people say this car's name wrong.

  • @aquiestoypaco
    @aquiestoypaco 3 роки тому +34

    I have a 1966 and I love it !!! Everybody wave at me !!! They love it to !!! Thanks for the historical.

    • @drewzero1
      @drewzero1 3 роки тому +6

      I think 1966 is the best year Beetle, but I'm biased because I have one too.

  • @benschmidtkeiii9323
    @benschmidtkeiii9323 3 роки тому +29

    I still have my ‘75 Super Beetle, and I absolutely love that car. It cost 3100$ new and came from the Naperville, IL plant the last month they produced the super beetles. I’ve owned a lot of cars over the years but none of them brought such joy to drive as the Beetle. It’s very easy to repair and service. I wish they kept making them - I’d buy another in a heartbeat.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay 3 роки тому +1

      Couldn't remotely pass any aspect of crash testing.

    • @tt-rs1457
      @tt-rs1457 2 роки тому

      @@emjayay
      Doesn't matter.
      No one of the cars will pass the offsetcrash when exceed 64km/h.....no Mercedes, no BMW, no VW.......
      The big 3 in germany are afraid of it.......

    • @aircooledhead
      @aircooledhead 4 місяці тому

      Nobody EVER bought a Beetle for its safety.

  • @F.S92
    @F.S92 3 роки тому +4

    God I love this channel. Why:
    1. Calm voice and eloquent speech (a rarity on YT these days)
    2. Extensively researched data & history
    3. Uses historical videos, pictures and materials wherever possible.

  • @icecreamtruckog3667
    @icecreamtruckog3667 3 роки тому +37

    The main reason all the replacements failed is that they didn't follow the design concepts that the original had.

    • @westnash
      @westnash Рік тому +3

      Yep, I loved my original Beetle and wanted so badly to buy a new Beetle but VW kept putting stupid engines in it and priced it like it was an Audi. If they had put the GTI engine Transmission in it and priced it correctly I would be driving one today. The problem with VW's in America are VW dealers who are gouging until the last minute and then dropping prices that were inflated to begin with.

    • @mauserpad5111
      @mauserpad5111 Рік тому +2

      and the new ones arent even slightly close to an actual beetle
      made by fucking audio
      priced like an audi
      it is an audi
      not rear engined nor air cooled
      not a boxer 4
      whats the point

  • @aldente2676
    @aldente2676 3 роки тому +56

    I owned two of them. I wish I had at least one of them back again. They were a joy to drive, a work of art, reliable and fun to drive. Because the engine was rear-mounted, the cabin was never too warm in summer

    • @raffriff42
      @raffriff42 3 роки тому +16

      Yes, and never too warm in winter!

    • @BRED510
      @BRED510 3 роки тому +6

      @@raffriff42 set them up right Beetle heaters work great.

    • @johne6081
      @johne6081 3 роки тому +5

      My dentist drove the convertible version of the 1955 Mercedes gull wing sports coupe. When the Benz was in for repairs, he commented that he was having a blast driving the Beetle convertible loaner the Mercedes dealer had given him.

    • @davidcouch6514
      @davidcouch6514 3 роки тому

      I bought a 72 Baja, acquiring perhaps the only Lemon off the VW Assembly Line.

  • @ErreBobbyLuna
    @ErreBobbyLuna 3 роки тому +38

    It was led out that the Beetle actually survived for so long thanks to Mexico, where it was kindly nicknamed "Bocho". Due to its low cost, easy maintenance and cheap replacement parts, it became the "de facto" taxi model for Mexico City from the mid 80s all the way to the early 2000s - watching those green bugs all around the city was truly a spectacle on its own. The love between Mexico and the Beetle was such, that there were special editions designed entirely (and only) for the Mexican market.

    • @AaronOfMpls
      @AaronOfMpls 3 роки тому +3

      Yup, what finally killed it in Mexico was stricter air pollution laws in Mexico City, and new laws requiring taxis to have rear doors.

    • @900108Chale
      @900108Chale 2 роки тому +1

      Sorry but: it’s called the Vocho or Volcho as it comes from Volkswagen - Volks - Volcho - Vocho as it’s nickname evolved through 4 decades in Mexico.
      BTW it was brought to Mexico by a German royal who happened to be a Na.i sympathizer. And so the wheels of history turn...

    • @janmajer865
      @janmajer865 Рік тому

      As the panels were bolted together any damaged mudguards could be simply unbolted and replaced.Also making a Baja bug was a simple process as was making a beach buggy

    • @23GreyFox
      @23GreyFox Рік тому

      @@900108Chale Good designs happen to survive the time, no matter what the people behind believed in.

  • @andythebritton
    @andythebritton 3 роки тому +21

    My first car was a '67 Beetle (with 6V electrics). Unfortunately, the clutch failed on the day I passed my driving test, but somehow, my Dad and I managed to drop the engine out and repair it. After that I don't think it ever broke down whilst I owned it.

  • @jonjames7328
    @jonjames7328 3 роки тому +3

    I drive a very successful Beetle reboot. It’s called a Porsche 911 and mine is 21 years old.

  • @billh230
    @billh230 3 роки тому +45

    "Gentlemen, I don't think what we are being offered here is worth a damn."
    Henry Ford II, rejecting the offered Volkswagen plant.

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому +19

      There was a committee that looked at the plant, and it was disparaging. From that, all Western car companies (including Australian) decided it wasn't worth it. And at that point it was an untried design that looked out of date, using old fashioned air cooled engines. Car companies were itching to restart production of their own cars that were superior than the Type 1. In hindsight it looks like madness, but not at the time.

    • @albertseabra9226
      @albertseabra9226 3 роки тому +10

      Henry Ford II was neither intelligent nor open-minded or creative.
      Lee Iacocca was fired by him -- because he was not a YES MAN. Rather he was a creative genious, the Father of the Mustang..
      And Henry Ford the II was arrogant, pompous and overbearing.
      Ford's cars were junky boxes, like most of the cars "MADE IN DETROIT" -- exactly the opposite of the type of vehicles made decades earlier.

    • @DeLambada
      @DeLambada 3 роки тому +7

      Volkswagen only survived because of the marshall plan and with a lot of government help. If Ford would have bought them, who knows, what would have happened.

    • @albertseabra9226
      @albertseabra9226 3 роки тому +6

      @@BigCar2 "Roger Smith, former GM's CEO, in the late 80s was asked :
      What is GM's response to a Toyota Camry?
      Smith's answer, after a long pause: Well, a Second Hand Buick.".
      There is a substancial difference between a Conservative LEADER and a Close-Minded one.
      Recenyly, GM sold itts European Brands ( mainly, OPEL, VAUXALL) .
      GM OPPERATED 14 VEHICLE PRODUCTION AND ASSEMBLY PLANTS IN 9 COUNTRIES .
      The Entire Project was incurring severe losses , years after year.
      PSA purchased the full Schebang for a song, turning the opperation around.
      In my view, GM Europe had a major problem , a Leadership Problem. -- after all, the exact same issues afflicting the Mother-Company in Detroit.

    • @e-curb
      @e-curb 3 роки тому +4

      @@albertseabra9226 VW had its dark hour. In the early 60s, VW sold more cars in North America than all other foreign car companies combined. By the late 90s, they weren't even in the top 20.

  • @avtomad722
    @avtomad722 3 роки тому +50

    That was so much info, in such a short video, so thank you for the extra content!
    Keep these amazingly factual and eye-opening uploads coming, thank you again, it's always a joy when you upload new stuff

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому +6

      Thanks! The next video's a monster. It's taking forever!

    • @averyparticularsetofskills
      @averyparticularsetofskills 3 роки тому +3

      J Falck
      Agreed my friend✌🏾

    • @averyparticularsetofskills
      @averyparticularsetofskills 3 роки тому

      @@BigCar2 can we get a _hint_ 🤞😏🤞

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому

      @@averyparticularsetofskills I mentioned it in the "Optional Extra" video.

  • @BMPellogia
    @BMPellogia 3 роки тому +24

    The Gol almost broke brazilian VW.They decided to re-use the 1300 cc engine from the beetle(after a long internal fight between engeneering teams).The car was heavier that the beetle and the performance was horrible.After desperate changes,like using a twin-carb 1600cc engine,the car finnaly took off becoming best selling car in brazil for 27 years

    • @Sacto1654
      @Sacto1654 3 роки тому +1

      Volkswagen tried with the Beetle-derived Brasilia, but that was not the best model for that market. As such, it got replaced by the Gol, which was heavily derived from the modern Polo model sold in Europe.

    • @heitorbernardes7977
      @heitorbernardes7977 3 роки тому +4

      @@Sacto1654 it was not derived from the polo. The polo was said to have a weak platform that wouldn't resist our roads. Instead, it had a new platform developed, based on the passat b1 that was sold here.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 3 роки тому +2

      Volkswagen Brazil even briefly restarted production of the old Beetle in the early 90s, but with little success and production only lasting until 1996. That would be an interesting story, too, seeing in detail how the Beetle was built in other countries like Mexico, Australia, Brazil, etc.

    • @frankguido4626
      @frankguido4626 4 місяці тому +1

      I remember I took my 1300cc Gol to a famous car dealer called Dacon in Sao Paulo and had the engine bored out to a 1700cc... car was insane fast for the time in Brazil...

    • @frankguido4626
      @frankguido4626 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Sacto1654 The Brasilia da a different platform than the Beetle and sold a lot of them. Word was that VW Germany killed it (with the SP2 VW TC and a couple other models because it wasn't designed by Germany and therefor didn't have to pay royalties to headquarters...).

  • @seanhershey3390
    @seanhershey3390 3 роки тому +29

    Ive been binge watching your channel all week... thank you & Cheers! from the US.

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому +4

      Glad to have you along Sean!

  • @ThomasZadro
    @ThomasZadro 3 роки тому +23

    As usually a great video, thanks a lot for this. Just one remark on the Ghia model. It went into production as the Karman Ghia, and became a dream car of the early 60ies. It still is a very much admired car and classic.

  • @stephenjokela
    @stephenjokela 3 роки тому +8

    Loved this video as it brought back many memories from my early years. We're a VW family from way back. The first car I remember was my dad's 1962 beetle. He bought it used in the mid 60's and traded in for a new one in 1970. The heaters were not really adequate for Canadian winters, so he switched over to North American cars for a while. The diesel Golf lured him back in the mid eighties with its 50+ MPG. He had 2, and put close to a million kilometres on them combined. Along the way, my brothers and I have owned a 72 beetle, a 67 and a 72 bus, a 78 rabbit(what the golf was originally called in Canada), an 89 golf, 2 88 jettas, a 90 passat wagon, a '12 jetta wagon, a '15 city golf, and a couple of audi quattros which were unfortunately past their "best before" dates. Whew, sorry for the TLDR...

  • @robertamoyaw1979
    @robertamoyaw1979 2 роки тому +1

    My Dad had a '69 Fastback n i got a '66 Fastback to remind me of him. Best car i ever had ! It kept its power of acceleration in all 4gears n the sound of that engine always brought tears of joy to my eyes n memories of my Dad to my Heart! It was a time machine , which took me back to when my Dad would take me on our evening rides!🤠

  • @Mike_Hughes
    @Mike_Hughes 3 роки тому +27

    Thank you for that, it was interesting. My Father, Hugh Edward Hughes, was a Quartermaster with the Royal Wesh Fusileers as WW2 ended. He met my Mother (a German) and was directly involved with procurement, etc (in line with his Army work) during the early stages of the setting-up of the Beetle factories. I have a photo of him standing by one of the very early Beetles off the line (which he 'procured' for himself... - the Army lot were good at that sort of thing, at the time, but Dad was a Master at it !). Co-incidentaly, my Mother had fled from East Germany (with her youngest Brother) as the East-West border was being 'sealed up'. Our family business on Mum's side consisted of my Great Uncle running a Daimler-Benz repair and dealership in Lübz, specialising in bodywork and spraying. Soon after, the Communist regimes made that business unworkable, as they confiscated all the good car's and forced everybody to drive Trabants. My Uncle then took over and (with great difficulty) converted the business into the only Trabant re-manufacturing Factory in East Germany. Car's would come in one end (knackered !), be stripped to every singular item and totaly reworked/refinished as new. The stories I could tell about that time are complex and very interesting. In 1989, as the wall came down, my Uncle rushed over to the West (first time for a very long time !) and met up with Audi/VW. He converted the business to what became a very successful Audi/VW Dealership, with the grass roots of Spraying/repair/refinishing, remaining. Sadly, he passed away a few years later, though his only daughter successfuly continued to keep the business going until recently. Now, sadly, after over 90 years of history and masive respect from the locals, in keeping them going through the 'cold war' days (he even fought to keep the local brewery going ! - good plan, obviously...), my cousin has had to close the business, as demand has dissapeared... A sign of the times and a very sad end to an era. To end on a happy note, I still get Free Beer, from the Lübzer Brauerei, any time I visit, (as do the remaining family members) - out of respect for what my Uncle did. You have never seen a V12 XJS so overloaded, as mine coming home to North Wales... Under the seats,.. sitting on it,... er, etc.

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 2 роки тому +1

      Wonderful story! I have read about the Brits and the efforts they went to in order to acquire tools and materials to reopen the VW plant. Your father may well have appeared in a book about that factory and VW history. Title was _Small Wonder_ but I'm sure it is out of print today. I read it in the early '70s.

    • @Mike_Hughes
      @Mike_Hughes 2 роки тому

      @@Miata822 Thank you so much for those kind words Bill and I really should try and find that book! I really miss Dad, and still use tools in my work, that he also 'precured' during his army time and at the time of his retirement! Take care, Mike

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mike_Hughes Good news! After i wrote that post I searched once again for a copy of the book. I found one online in "good" condition. I will reply again once it arrives if I can find a Mr. Hughes mentioned.

    • @Mike_Hughes
      @Mike_Hughes 2 роки тому

      @@Miata822 Oh Wow, nice one Bill ! I will look forward to you reporting back ! - Hugh Edward Hughes, generally refered to in the army as 'Hughie' Thank you Bill

  • @taxidude
    @taxidude 3 роки тому +112

    You can't say the Golf was more successful. There have been six different models. The 1930s Beetle never changed!

    • @tomcole020
      @tomcole020 3 роки тому +3

      Exactly what I was gonna say

    • @SparrowNoblePoland
      @SparrowNoblePoland 3 роки тому +3

      Plus, Golf can't swim, while the Beetle is also a motorboat by standard.

    • @mikekemp9877
      @mikekemp9877 3 роки тому +5

      its odd if you think about it though there were good reasons for doing so but a company that made the same model for so long went to porche whom with great respect are notorius for making a range that mostly look similar i mean modern porches are not far removed in looks from the original roadster or 911.the beetle as i remember as a boy in the late 50s in ireland in black was the car virtually everyone drove.the rival was the morris minor which was also popular but farmers bought the vw mainly as a tow bar came with it but was 25 quid on the morris.as kids the older beetle design seemed space age compared to the morris which nice was to us antique even then.late 60s the vw gave way to the opel kadett and surprisingly the minor was replaced not by the 1100 as youd think but its big brother the 1800 which got very popular.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 3 роки тому +1

      @@SparrowNoblePoland Plus Golf was not a ripoff of Czechoslovak Tatra, Porsche did not wanted Czechoslovak citizenship but did not have any problem with stealing ideas from them...

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 3 роки тому +1

      @@Bialy_1 probably the last offensive thing the nazis did.

  • @redsorgum
    @redsorgum 3 роки тому +9

    I love my 66 beetle, it’s my daily driver/work truck. 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @hg2.
    @hg2. 4 місяці тому +1

    I still want the Beetle.
    I still want the 2CV.
    These should still be in production and be available as an option in the personal transportation market.

  • @johnstone7697
    @johnstone7697 3 роки тому +5

    I remember my first test drive of the 1977 Golf (known as the Rabbit in the US). It was a revelation. I had been driving various Beetles since the late '60s and was very familiar with them. The Golf was simply incredible in its sophistication and refinement. It had real acceleration and handling. There was no going back. The Beetle had a great run, but the Golf had clearly made it obsolete.

  • @eyeperture
    @eyeperture 2 роки тому +1

    great series, perfect way to kill a day or the rainy weekend

  • @donaldasayers
    @donaldasayers 3 роки тому +18

    The VW K70 designed at NSU was VW's first front wheel drive car. It was quite good too.

    • @SabotsLibres
      @SabotsLibres 3 роки тому +1

      ...and was the actual Beetle replacement, not the Golf. The Golf was more a development of/replacement for the K70.

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому +3

      @@SabotsLibres Oh no... The K 70 was a full size sedan, much bigger than Beetle and Golf; look at it´s size, price and performance. It was 3 classes above the Beetle. It was meant to fill the gap in the NSU-Range between the 1200 and the Ro 80 and was a competitor to cars like Ford 17 M and Opel Rekord (and - funny enough - VW´s own 411). And neither was the Golf a replacement for the K 70. The Passat replaced both the 412 and the K 70. And: there were no technical similarities between the K 70 and the Golf or Passat except to the FWD and the fact, that it had a watercooled inline 4cylinder. The engine of the K 70 was derived of the aircooled inline-4 of the NSU 1200 and had nothing in common with the engines of Golf and Passat.
      And this was the main problem of the K 70: it was sold as VW, but it was no VW. It did not fit into the old range with the Types 1 to 4 neither did it fit into the new range with Polo, Golf, Scirocco and Passat.

    • @richaddulieu1967
      @richaddulieu1967 3 роки тому +1

      My dad had one it was recalled crankshaft issues I believe

    • @leneanderthalien
      @leneanderthalien 3 роки тому +1

      @@heikosteffens1661 The K70 also the Audi 80 was derived from the NSU prototype designed as a low cost replacement (with WATER COOLED 4cyl engine) for the Ro80, but never built in serie

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому +1

      @@leneanderthalien I have to contradict. The NSU K 70 was not meant to replace the NSU Ro 80. It was meant to fill the gap between the NSU 1200 and the NSU Ro 80.
      The Audi 80 has nothing in common with any NSU, it was developped in Ingolstadt, not in Neckarsulm. Maybe you confuse it with the Audi 50/VW Polo. The Audi 50 was designed as NSU K 50 to replace the NSU 1000...

  • @shankarbalan3813
    @shankarbalan3813 3 роки тому +12

    The Beetle will always be iconic. Present day prices for the classic Beetle have gone quite mad.

  • @nadeemchaudhry6585
    @nadeemchaudhry6585 3 роки тому +23

    It's Friday and the best channel brings us another great video!! Thanks!!

  • @zedbou5040
    @zedbou5040 3 роки тому

    As a now 57 yr old UK car nut, I must say how much I like Mr Big Cars presenting skill and style.

  • @the_retag
    @the_retag 3 роки тому +37

    "The home of the automobile, the usa"
    I believe carl benz's ghost would like a word with you

    • @DolleHengst
      @DolleHengst 3 роки тому +9

      Exactly. Not only did the germans invent the modern car, but also the petrol engine (Nicolaus Otto), diesel engine and rotary engine.

    • @BatCaveOz
      @BatCaveOz 3 роки тому +3

      I immediately thought the same thing. But in fairness, one could reasonably say that Germany was was birthplace of the automobile and the USA became it's home.
      (Based on total volumes sold, percentage of cars vs. people, average distance travelled per year, as well as less tangible social factors.... such as drive in movies, drive though dining, hot-rod culture, road side attractions, etc.)

    • @the_retag
      @the_retag 3 роки тому +1

      @@BatCaveOz yeah... its a point... although the german car industry is massive and theres the autobahn network, so for its size i think germany is a very car country

    • @DolleHengst
      @DolleHengst 3 роки тому +1

      @@the_retag Volkswagen is the biggest car company in the world if i'm not mistaken.
      The german premium brands are unrivaled and respected world wide. The germans revived Bugatti, Rolls-Royce and Bentley. They made Lamborghini and Mini hugely popular.
      Oh, and they totally dominated Le Mans for the last 50 years. They are unbeatable in Formula One at the moment (Mercedes-AMG), and they revolutionized rally cars.

    • @wildman510
      @wildman510 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah Europe was were a lot of innovating was done with cars, for example look at the citroen ds

  • @reallyrandomrides1296
    @reallyrandomrides1296 3 роки тому +6

    Wow! Lots of great information and pictures that many people, including myself have never seen before. Such an iconic car, I think every automotive enthusiast should watch this video, whether they're a VW fan or not.

  • @sgttombailes3380
    @sgttombailes3380 3 роки тому +7

    During High School and College, I owned 5 VW Beetles. I wrecked 2, 1 with a 5 flip roll over, The other 3 I sold outright. Then, in 1974 I bought a 1970 Porsche 914-6. What a CAR !! A whole New World opened up to me. I've been driving a Porsche for the past 50+ years. I still have one today..

  • @andynixon2820
    @andynixon2820 3 роки тому +5

    With the first Golf they absolutely nailed it so glad they took so long deciding on the beetle replacement . I'm driving an old mk5 and it's still brilliant today .

  • @peterullinger2814
    @peterullinger2814 3 роки тому +10

    True is, that the Golf got new models being technically incompatible and newly engeniered, while the Beetle got incremential updates.
    Also true is that they changed so much that you can´t use any part from a 1950´s beetle on a Mexico modell. Those two are almost as far off each other as the Golf 1 and Golf 2.
    They changed the suspension from simple rubber buffers up to McPerson shock absorbers, the steering from worm steering to steering gear, from electricity from 6V to 12 V, the wind screen washer pump from the spare tire´s pressure to an actual washer pump, the rear axle several times and so, SO much more on and between the chassis and the body that normally would them two separate models.
    On the other hand: those were all incremential updates which never ever justified a new model, so... it is complicated. Like a Ship of Theseus situation, almost.

  • @richsackett3423
    @richsackett3423 3 роки тому +2

    Thank goodness Groucho came to the rescue. You are becoming one of my favorite automotive journalists. The accent helps.

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Rich!

  • @dominicrusho
    @dominicrusho 3 роки тому +112

    Just imagine how successful the Beetle could have been if it had been equipped with dodgy touchscreen controls

    • @DogsBAwesome
      @DogsBAwesome 3 роки тому +4

      THat nonsense on the ID.3 spoils a fine car. I have the more staid Corsa-E with normal buttons and all I use the touchscreen is to change from the radio to Bluetooth on my phone.

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 3 роки тому +18

      I hate the video game-like designs of most new cars, as I don't want to look at the heater controls when I am driving. My daily driver, a 1984 Audi 4000 Quattro has controls that I can operate without taking my eyes off the road. Call me a Luddite, but a proper car should have three pedals, minimal electronics, rear-wheel or all-wheel drive, and a base model with limited options if possible...

    • @DogsBAwesome
      @DogsBAwesome 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidhollenshead4892 I really wanted to go electric and there is little or nothing with a decent range without loads of bells and whistles, that said I as never a car nut, and my EV with all it's crap is easy to drive.

    • @DogsBAwesome
      @DogsBAwesome 3 роки тому +1

      My corsa has a knob with a display you turn to set the temperature, if you want to adjust the flow yes it's on the screen but you press the fan speed knob then there are three sliders which is simple

    • @Dromoys
      @Dromoys 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidhollenshead4892 totally agree with you!

  • @cameronmurie
    @cameronmurie 3 роки тому +2

    Thoroughly enjoy all your video productions - As a classic car petrol head I love these dives into motoring history, politics and economics of it all. Please, keep em coming if you can.

  • @LexusLFA554
    @LexusLFA554 3 роки тому +9

    The Beetle is such a nice looking car.
    I do know that the Audi 50 existed but that it is the predecessor to the VW Polo, was indeed new to me.

    • @darkredvan
      @darkredvan 3 роки тому +2

      Initially the Polo simply was a rebadged Audi 50. When the Polo was in full production, , the Audi 50 was terminated.

    • @kalleklp7291
      @kalleklp7291 3 роки тому +1

      The top leaders of the VAG concern decided the Audi 50 was too tiny for an Audi to be. They wanted Audi to compete against BMW and Mercedes. As the car was already production-ready developed, they simply rebadged it as a VW. As VW already had the Golf on their blueprints the natural choice of the name fell on Polo and so the VW Polo was born. It came as a 4 gear manual and also as a 4+ economy gear (5th gear) to make it even more fuel economic.

    • @UlliStein
      @UlliStein 3 роки тому +1

      @@kalleklp7291 In the 70's there was a sedan version of the Polo, named Derby. That was so rare that they renamed it to "Polo classic" because it wasn't worth printing the name plates.

    • @kalleklp7291
      @kalleklp7291 3 роки тому +1

      @UlliStein Yes, indeed.. It was built from 1977 to somewhere in the '80s and was an ugly-looking car. Volkswagen Mexico made another variant from 1995 to 2008. Incredible because the MK1 was already ugly and bad selling...so why? 😖😆

  • @PurpleRhymesWithOrange
    @PurpleRhymesWithOrange 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent history of the company. I am waiting on you doing the Citroen 2CV

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  2 роки тому

      It's on the list...

  • @corm7538
    @corm7538 3 роки тому +3

    That prototype model shown at (3:35) reminds me of a Porsche 356. I'm a huge fan of all German brands of cars with VW and Porsche being among my favorites. My mom and dad owned a 1973 and a 1974 VW Bugs when I was a kid in the 1980s and my mom still owns one of the newer 2008 VW Beetles.

    • @leneanderthalien
      @leneanderthalien 3 роки тому

      The VW/Porsche was clearly a copy from the Tatra cars invent from Hans Ledwinka

  • @muir8009
    @muir8009 3 роки тому +1

    Just a minor thing about the Karmann Ghia: it was an Exner design for De Soto. When produced it had a firedome V8 up front. Ghia passed the design on; converting the design to rear engine and reducing the size to 75%, the desoto under frame still being essentially a full size platform.
    Like the later turbines Chrysler didn't go full production due to import duty difficulties. The hyper expensive Ghia Crown Imperials could justify the cost because of ultra low production (we're talking around 12 a year) and the stratospheric asking price (Caddy Eldorado was small change).
    Chrysler destroyed 40 of the 50 turbines due to the cost of duty

    • @alext8828
      @alext8828 2 роки тому

      Never knew any of this. Thanks. And why isn't the Karmann Ghia considered to be a VW? I kinda remember feeling that it really was a VW, but a sporty one. I have to look into this. Thanks again for the info.

    • @muir8009
      @muir8009 2 роки тому

      @@alext8828 forgot about my comment! It's a karmann and not a Volkswagen as Volkswagen never actually made it, just supplying the running gear. It's all a bit messy but both karmann and ghia were what they call coachbuilders: from the earliest days it wasn't uncommon for a customer to buy a car, but the running gear only. In the fifties and sixties you'd take it to someone like touring or pinninfarina or ghia etc if you owned an alfa or Ferrari or anything vaguely exotic. Mulliner park ward or van den plas if you had a rolls or a Morris 1100 you wanted poshed up.
      A lot of the big car factories couldn't afford to set up mass production facilities and logistics for what was always going to be a low volume car.
      And the Volkswagen name bit: who's going to pay top dollar for a Volkswagen? We'll sell it as a karmann thanks. Same as Toyota/Lexus, Nissan/ Infiniti etc.
      Volkswagen found this out to their peril when they made that ridiculous w16 passatt best car in the world thing in the eighties, where buyers stayed away in their droves, we'd rather drive Mercedes thank you very much. From memory someone got into trouble over that.
      Names mean a lot: the new Mercedes GLE is consumers most unreliable new car you can buy, Mercedes is always in the worst spots, but does that stop any one buying them :)
      The US were the automotive styling powerhouses in the fifties, none moreso than exners Chrysler, but apart from maybe the taxi or ambulance industry there wasn't a great coach builders tradition there so any custom jobs that you couldn't get George barris or the local hotrodder to build you'd get it from Italy. Today it's like buying a swiss watch or an Italian suit, you just do because its style.
      Before anyone gets up about my US being the style powerhouses, do take in that nearly all the designers wanted to emulate the European style, flair, and elegance. It wasn't called the Lincoln continental for nothing you know...

  • @averyparticularsetofskills
    @averyparticularsetofskills 3 роки тому +3

    Big Car THIS is why I love your channel
    E.g. 7:50 the clip edited in with the Beetle parked as other cars "move past" it, all while you speak of how stagnant the car had become in comparison to the competition. I not afraid to speak for many when I say your Attention to detail doesn't go unnoticed and is appreciated.✌🏾
    (Edit: spelling, auto correct)🙄

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому +2

      😀 Thx Paul

  • @FernandoSchulman
    @FernandoSchulman 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video.
    I have an 1986 Beatle. It is still in pretty nice condition. It was made here in Brazil and has disc break on the front wheels.

  • @jorgegallo3261
    @jorgegallo3261 3 роки тому +3

    I have 3 old beetles - love them. They should restart the old beetle. I would buy a new one in a minute.

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 3 роки тому +2

    I once test drove a Mexican Beetle in Michigan. I loved it. This was a good history lesson. I would still love to own an original air cooled one some day. Thanks.

  • @vilmarmoccelin
    @vilmarmoccelin 3 роки тому +7

    Here in Brazil the VW Gol was the perfect substitute for the Fusca (Beetle), first they coexisted, with Gol as a higher end product, and the Gol, now in the 5,5 generation, was the most sold car around here for decades!
    Interestingly the first Gol was presented with a 1,7L air cooled engine and is called now Gol BX, and son after the water cooled 1,6L arrive, installed in a slightly slanted position in the engine bay.
    The Golf just arrived here in small batches of imported MK3, and as a high end product! Son after the MK4 was nationalized, and was fazed out when they started to import the MK6 at the end of the model in the rest of the world.
    A bizarre thing was the fact that when the model was nationalized they remove the multilink rear suspension and installed a torsion bar semi-independent suspension instead allegedly because it was a superior solution to our roads. So we had criminologically MK6 imported from Germany with multilink and superior finish and materials, MK6 from Mexico, with lower quality finish but still multilink and Brazilian made MK6 when torsion bar suspension and a similar quality (or maybe higher) from Mexico!

    • @francomarchesotti7746
      @francomarchesotti7746 2 роки тому +1

      VW Brazil never brought the Mk6 Golf to Brazil. They’ve skipped Mk5 and Mk6 and went straight to the Mk7

    • @frankguido4626
      @frankguido4626 4 місяці тому

      The first Gol had a 1300cc engine... I had one. Then had teh engine rebored to a 1700cc engine at Dacon..

  • @Romiman1
    @Romiman1 3 роки тому +2

    Doesn't matter which stuff You are wotking on, You do always great! There were even new informations for me, though knowing the Volkswagen history well.

  • @Sacto1654
    @Sacto1654 3 роки тому +35

    The problem: the platform the Volkswagen Beetle was based on was not amenable to a truly _modern_ update. The result: VW engineers scrapped the whole idea and decided to start from scratch with a modern FWD platform, one that became the Golf model.

    • @erikziak1249
      @erikziak1249 3 роки тому +4

      That is correct. The VW Golf, without any doubt, is a marvel of engineering since the very first model came out. Truly amazing car. And classless - everyone can drive a Golf.

    • @Sacto1654
      @Sacto1654 3 роки тому +3

      @@erikziak1249 The unusual design of the Beetle platform made it difficult to produce a truly modern car, especially with the Beetle's air-cooled engine. By going to a modern FWD design with a liquid-cooled engine, that only produced the Golf, but started the "hot hatch" movement with the revolutionary Golf GTI model.

    • @erikziak1249
      @erikziak1249 3 роки тому

      @@Sacto1654 Exactly.

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn 3 роки тому +3

      VW beetle is copy paste of the Tatra (Ferdinand literary stole tatra design) , Golf is mechanically Audi 60 with Italo design body, Golf was only possible after VW purchased Audi

    • @martinmuller2809
      @martinmuller2809 3 роки тому

      @@altergreenhorn The audi 60 was basically a DKW F102 with a longitudinally mounted "Mexico" Merc engine - no relation to the golf. Torsion bar suspension and so on and on

  • @wolfgangh.7027
    @wolfgangh.7027 3 роки тому +1

    Some words about the Beetle replacement: Golf. It was in the years when Volkswagen had purchased the NSU company. I had the chance to sit either in one of the last NSU cars, the TT model. Later I sat in one of the first VW Golf. Surprisingly the sound of the motor was very similar in both of these cars! That tells me that NSU engineers were busy to design the VW Golf.

  • @carcrazyguysa4059
    @carcrazyguysa4059 3 роки тому +8

    Actually there was one really successful Beetle reboot. The orange car in your background, the Porsche 911

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому +3

      Touche!

    • @chadcastagana9181
      @chadcastagana9181 3 роки тому +1

      In America it was called the VW Rabbit

    • @aris95
      @aris95 3 роки тому

      There was actually one "almost" successful reboot: The VW 1302s, it was almost modern car with modern dasboard, mcpherson suspension etc.

    • @BTW...
      @BTW... 3 роки тому

      @@aris95 NSU taught them something then - MS suspension.. but not at the rear.

  • @emlix1
    @emlix1 3 роки тому +4

    I learned to drive in a beetle, so I've always had a soft spot for them. My dad had a 1600, which I wrote "TURBO" on in green coloured pencil. Made it go heaps faster.

    • @mekhane.broken9678
      @mekhane.broken9678 3 роки тому

      Should have used red
      Red makes it go faster
      Orc pogic

    • @richardcline1337
      @richardcline1337 3 роки тому

      It's amazing that one of the easiest "upgrades" to the Beetle was to swap out it's engine for one from a Porsche. Turned that little car into an Autobahn rocket!

  • @dave8599
    @dave8599 3 роки тому +21

    the EA276 at 10:36 has a rear quarter that looks like an AMC Gremlin!

    • @fmnrbmbg9736
      @fmnrbmbg9736 3 роки тому +2

      In my opinion, it actually looks like the rear end of the Brazilian VW Brasília even the lights are similar.

    • @The-Rectifier
      @The-Rectifier 3 роки тому

      @@fmnrbmbg9736
      My two cents to🤣

    • @RVREVO
      @RVREVO 3 роки тому +2

      The front looks like a Skoda

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 3 роки тому

      And the rear end looks similar to the Lada Niva.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 3 роки тому

      @@RVREVO The huge front and short rear also makes it look oddly similar to the Yugo.

  • @UlliStein
    @UlliStein 3 роки тому +1

    8:00 reminds me of my childhood when my father was so unhappy with the '65 beetle because very often it wouldn't start. So he got a '72 Kadett which was so much better in every way. That was a good move!

  • @SabotsLibres
    @SabotsLibres 3 роки тому +3

    The 'Type 2' or transporter was not a VW idea but came into being thanks to Ben Pon, the Dutch car dealer.

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape 3 роки тому +1

    7:25 the car on the upper left was known as a VW "Squareback" and my grandmother drove one for many years. The one on the right was called a "Fastback" and my brother drove one in the 80s until it was lost in a wreck. My dad had two Beetles, a 67 and a 73 Super Beetle, which he later regretted selling as it was a fine commuter car and he always took good care of it. After he traded it in he would see it on the road in the hands of a new owner for years. I love those old air-cooled VWs, I can still remember the sound of the engine and the smell of the upholstery. I wouldn't mind owning a Squareback these days, I like the mini station wagon design.

  • @Petelmrg
    @Petelmrg 3 роки тому +7

    I worked for a VW Dealership in 1969 and had the undignified task of driving our 'Herbie' lookalike around the streets of the UK (in dark glasses and a large hat) - as an aside I also drove the 'Type 4', which was truly one of the worst vehicles ever produced; no wonder their finances were going down the pan around that time.

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому +1

      I owned several Type 4 (411, 411 L, 411 LE, 412, 412 LS...) and I strongly contradict. The Type 4 is a marvellous car. For a short time I had an Opel Rekord and was glad to get my VW 411 back again.

  • @tomashton1781
    @tomashton1781 3 роки тому +1

    when the ghia came with front disc brake,s we used to swap the front end and stick it in a beetle back in the day.

  • @HypnotizinDetailz
    @HypnotizinDetailz 3 роки тому +7

    A true legend, a real icon 😍

  • @jofus3604
    @jofus3604 3 роки тому

    I have owned many Bugs, most of the folks that owned them never even learned that there was just a few simple maintenance procedures to maintain them! Could be performed with a pocket full of tools, most of which came with in the tool bag!. With a few tools and two skateboards, a few hours in the shop, made lots of money!
    I am in my 70's, but even in my 60's if u offered me one car for the rest of my life it would have been a VDUB!
    Great post!

  • @erikziak1249
    @erikziak1249 3 роки тому +6

    A video about the Beetle, if it wants to be complete, should mention the Tatra V570: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_V570 as well as the Tatra 97. The Beetle is heavily rooted in the Tatra models.

    • @VinDieselS70
      @VinDieselS70 3 роки тому +1

      Didn't Ferdinand Porsche work at Tatra for a while getting the knowhow as I also read somewhere he used Tatra as a stepping stone creating his own car.

    • @erikziak1249
      @erikziak1249 3 роки тому +2

      @@VinDieselS70 I am not sure if he did work at Tatra, but he certainly admitted "looking over the shoulder of Hans Ledwinka" at times.

    • @Keckegenkai
      @Keckegenkai 3 роки тому +1

      was just waiting for that comment

    • @hoedenbesteller
      @hoedenbesteller 3 роки тому +1

      Maybe a bit like BMW that also stole their most important model from a competator?

  • @StephanBuchin
    @StephanBuchin 3 роки тому

    2:22 Great shot. Lighting, color and angle of view are perfect.

  • @mvdesigncustomworks5460
    @mvdesigncustomworks5460 3 роки тому +4

    Great video as always!The white prototype was actually produced in Brazil with few cosmetic modifications, it was called VW 1600 "Zé do Caixão". There were a Variant and TL of it too, much like the Type 3. The Brasilia's design is based on the VW 412 wagon, they have the same elements, but were re-proportioned around in the Brasilia to fit the smaller body. If you ever desire to make a video about the Brasilia, I'd be glad to give any info I can find.

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому +1

      The front end of the Brasilia (and even of the 2nd generation Brasilian 1600) and the 412 is the so-called "Leiding Nose" wich at first was introduced by Rudolf Leiding with the Brasilian SP2 sportscar. Leiding was the CEO of VW do Brasil; 1971 he became the CEO of VW Wolfsburg

  • @jennifergaroffalo1099
    @jennifergaroffalo1099 Рік тому

    You have such a talent to tell the truth stories , your vid is so envolving and i feel so nice following your pronunciation . Get my warmest compliments from Argentina, Southern America

  • @SiqueScarface
    @SiqueScarface 3 роки тому +4

    Audi actually was a brand within Auto Union from the very beginning, Auto Union being a consortium of four car makers (hence the four rings) from the town of Zwickau in the 1920ies: Horch, Wanderer, DKW and Audi. And Audi itself was founded by the same August Horch, who founded the car company with his name, but got booted out by the board of directors. So he translated his name Horch (German for Listen!) into Latin, becoming Audi.

    • @markmiwurdz202
      @markmiwurdz202 3 роки тому

      @SiqueScarface. I heard a different story regarding the name "Audi". Apparently it was "Auto Union Deutschland Ingoldstadt". The Auto Union part for the group of car companies, Deutschland for Germany and Ingoldstadt for the town where the group was founded/based. Stay safe and well.

    • @SiqueScarface
      @SiqueScarface 3 роки тому

      @@markmiwurdz202 This does not contradict my story, because Zwickau lies in former East Germany. Thus, after World War II, the company moved their headquarters to Ingolstadt, as Auto Union in Zwickau was socialized and renamed into IFA (Industrieverband Fahrzeugbau). This lead to the curious situation that the DKW F9, which was developed in 1940 to replace the DKW F8, appeared twice in 1950: as DKW F89 in West Germany and IFA F9 in East Germany.
      Interesting historical side note: Production of the IFA F9 was moved to Eisenach, where it was reshaped into the Wartburg 311 and later Wartburg 353 with different bodies, but the underpinnings were still based on the DKW F9. The DKW F89 was developed into the DKW F11/F12 and F102. Then the two stroke engine was replaced by a four-stroke, and the Audi F103 appeared.

    • @leneanderthalien
      @leneanderthalien 3 роки тому

      Audi was absorbed by Auto Union after Audi was bankrupt in 1932, and the make name disapear totaly (did not built cars after), the name was only resurected by VW who choice this name to built luxury VW...

    • @SiqueScarface
      @SiqueScarface 3 роки тому

      @@leneanderthalien It's a little bit more complicated. Until 1964, Auto Union was owned by Daimler-Benz, where the lineage of two stroke powered cars culminated in the DKW F102. Daimler-Benz constructed a four cylinder four stroke engine with very high compression rates (11.2:1), and at Auto Union, this engine was refined. In 1964, Volkswagen started to buy Auto Union from Daimler-Benz, a process going on until 1966. At the same time, the two stroke engine in the DKW F102 was replaced with the new high compression four stroke, turning the F102 into the F103. But as DKW since its foundation in the 1920 only released two stroke powered cars, VW sought a new name for the F103, and as Auto Union already owned the Audi brand, it released the F103 as Audi instead of a DKW.

    • @janwierema3551
      @janwierema3551 3 роки тому

      @@SiqueScarface In a shape of the VW beetle, the DKW Meisterklasse 3=6 was rather succesfully, in fac't a nicer shape

  • @sumeetsmahajan
    @sumeetsmahajan 3 роки тому

    i love watching your videos to the FULL as there is information in every sentence and not repeats and no useless talk.

  • @joeennis2571
    @joeennis2571 3 роки тому +4

    you mentioned earlier opel . fun fact Opel founder Adam Opel never saw an Opel car , the company built sewing machines and bicycles and Adam thought the automobile were toys for the rich . it was the sons that eventually went into the car business and the rest is history

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 3 роки тому +1

      And 100 years later a car that is a toy for wealthy people is named after Adam - oh, the irony. 🤣🤣

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck 3 роки тому +1

    A great video, thanks. A few things. My Dad had two - a 1970 in very bright orange and a 1975 in blue. I have fond memories of those cars. Facoid - when Disney used the Beetle for Herbie in “The Love Bug”, Volkswagen wanted nothing to do with it, and insisted ALL VW logos were removed. This occurred and the car is only ever referred to as “the little car”, or Herbie, but never as a Volkswagen nor Beetle. Flash forward six years to 1974 when the sequel, “Herbie Rides Again”, was being made, and with the original movie causing sales in North America to escalate, Volkswagen wanted in. You could actually go into your local VW dealer and buy a “Herbie Kit” that had ‘53’ roundels and stripes to put on your Beetle. VW also supplied numerous Beetles for the production. Oh and I’m sure you know that when the Golf was introduced in North America it was called The Rabbit.
    Would you also done on the first car I desperately wanted as a ten-year-old - the Audi Fox?

  • @christiantava442
    @christiantava442 3 роки тому +11

    Great video as always, I hope you will go through fiat panda's history one day.

  • @billolsen4360
    @billolsen4360 2 роки тому +1

    12:09 As you might know, the Golf was originally called the Rabbit here in the US...maybe to style it as quick on acceleration. I got a diesel Rabbit in 1980 & loved it.

    • @robmenzies862
      @robmenzies862 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, I remember the VW Rabbit, I also remember people were telling me that it was called the Golf over in Europe.

  • @onefastcyclist
    @onefastcyclist 3 роки тому +3

    a great outline of an icon's history!

  • @geoffreylee5199
    @geoffreylee5199 4 місяці тому +1

    What was the original Golf in Europe was called the Rabbit. When the design changed, here they became the Golf. The Polo was marketed here in North America as the Rabbit in the 2000s but not for long.

  • @Aygo84
    @Aygo84 3 роки тому +7

    Pretty much like the past few videos, very very interesting in topic approached, but failing to disclaim very important details.
    For instance, the EA48 (@4:53) was a very different kind of project (front engine, front wheel drive, which means the exact opposite of the Beetle, very spartan, no boot opening...).
    Second wrong detail: the 1960 prototype (@5:30) didn't give birth to Brasilia. First it was the source for the so-called "VW Zé do Caixão" in Brazil (which is very closely related to the Type 3), which had a Wagon version called Variant, which was then shortened and heavily restyled and then, yes, becoming the Brasilia.
    Third: there's nothing in common between the EA266 and the brazilian Gol. The EA266 is mid-engine rear-wheel drive, while the Gol is a chopped up Audi 80, which means front engine / front wheel drive but with longitudinal displacement (unlike most "modern" VW's like the Golf and Polo). It's two completely different packagings. Not even aesthetically they're similar.

    • @pashakdescilly7517
      @pashakdescilly7517 3 роки тому

      If I remember correctly, the EA266 had a new water cooled i4 engine driving a transaxle, with the engine laid sideways under the rear seat. Crankshaft fore-and-aft. It makes sense for the next prototype to have the same fore-and-aft layout with an upright engine, at the front like the Gol prototype (and VW Passat, Audi 80, etc). Then the move to transverse engine with end-on gearbox in the now-classic fwd layout.

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL 2 роки тому

    My first car was a Mk1 '77 Volkswagen Golf [Rabbit]. The car that I bought was originally sold to a professor at the University of Toledo, and after three years of ownership Volkswagen contacted him out of the blue and requested to have the car back temporarily for quality control. They shipped it to Germany, took it completely apart, and measured everything. The engine was completely rebuilt and essentially "blueprinted", anything wrong with the car at all was replaced. I bought it four years later and this little car was a tiger! It had 80 hp versus 1800 pounds of curb weight, and was a match for the '83 GTI that Volkswagen sold. I really liked that little car, despite it not having air conditioning, it would leave two streaks of rubber if I revved it and dumped the clutch, and it could reach 60 mph in 9.5 seconds. It humbled more than one of my friend's hulking American V8 cars!
    Alas, the floorboards were totally rusted out. VW used cheap shit Soviet Union steel on these, and it had never been undercoated. I sat in it one day and despite the fact that I only weigh about 150 pounds, me and the seat when right through the floor. Me and a friend welded a metal plate into the car and then I sold it on the cheap~
    I still miss that car. It would beat nearly anything with four wheels across an intersection because it was so light!

  • @MrLaughinggrass
    @MrLaughinggrass 3 роки тому +9

    What do you think of the latest beetles? I like the most recent one, I think it looks much better than the mid 2000's version. Shame that they've discontinued it in my opinion

    • @mtumasz
      @mtumasz 3 роки тому +3

      Same here, I’d buy one with that look (Turbo:) but in 2021 it’s gotta be electric. VW, U readin this? Probably not🤪

    • @wasdwasdwwasd
      @wasdwasdwwasd 3 роки тому +2

      Indeed, but it's probably far too niche when everyone wants a shite crossover these days.

    • @BillLaBrie
      @BillLaBrie 3 роки тому +1

      Pretentious in a way the original never was.

    • @onetwothreefour-s1n
      @onetwothreefour-s1n 3 роки тому

      @@mtumasz what do you think of the Ora punk cat & ballet cat ev beetle homages?

    • @jacobzimmermann59
      @jacobzimmermann59 3 роки тому +4

      I never liked the new Beetles. Where the original was a true masterpiece of engineering that opened new markets and made the automobile accessible to those who couldn't previously dreaming of owning a car (like the Ford T did), the new ones were basically just fashionable gimmicks.

  • @danielvergara2901
    @danielvergara2901 3 роки тому

    Such a talented guy to produce and to edit an outstandingly remarkable First Class lesson like this. You are almost academic , you are bringing culture 👏👏👏biggest compliments from a viewer in Argentina

  • @andresgarate7118
    @andresgarate7118 3 роки тому +4

    Please make a video about the outrageous situation between Tatra and Volkswagen (Ledwinka-Porsche).

    • @BigCar2
      @BigCar2  3 роки тому +3

      I'm sure I'll touch on it if I make a full Beetle video.

    • @andresgarate7118
      @andresgarate7118 3 роки тому

      @@BigCar2 Excellent, thanks.

    • @aris95
      @aris95 3 роки тому

      Hmmm haven't they done yet "Hitler hears about Tatra..."?

  • @nickstaffer5036
    @nickstaffer5036 3 роки тому

    You, sir, have really outdone yourself with this video. Great job on all fronts.

  • @Dreatnought1966
    @Dreatnought1966 3 роки тому +5

    However we love our Käfer , it rolls, rolls , rolls and rolls. Greetings from Germany

  • @drewdemien481
    @drewdemien481 3 роки тому +1

    That was cool.
    Comprehensive
    Very nice. Thanks for doing that..the experimental cars are always a bonus

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL 3 роки тому +4

    Compared to modern cars, Type 1's were not safe at all. People have romantic notions of driving one daily, but that is really a very BAD idea.
    As to the replacements, the EA166 was the closest that came to production. This was the mid-engine car that Porsche designed for them. It had it's inline-4 laying on its side under the right rear seat, with the final drive and transmission close behind down the center. This would have been an expensive car to produce, and servicing would be a complete nightmare! They built around 20 prototypes, and all but one was crushed when the decision was made to axe the program. I read that engineers literally hid this car from management for over 20 years in order to preserve it for the museum!
    The eventual replacement, the Type 17 "Golf" or "Rabbit" was styled by Giugiaro, and it's underpinnings were used for the Scirocco and Jetta as well. These were good cars, very lightweight for their interior volume, but Volkswagen bought cheap steel from Russia for their construction and since they were not galvanized, they rusted like all hell!
    Interesting trivia side-note: The car eventually sold as the Scirocco was not the original design. The original was a rear wheel drive car designed by Porsche under contract to VW. Management pulled the plug on this program too, but Porsche knew it was going to be a winner so they paid VW for the production rights and this car became.....The Porsche 924. And eventually the 944 and 968. The 924 had 914 rear suspension, Type 17 Golf front suspension, and a FWD Audi transmission mounted at the rear.

    • @cisium1184
      @cisium1184 3 роки тому +1

      I drove one (a 1976 standard Beetle) daily from 1996 until 2005. Never had so much as a fender-bender in it. Sold it to go on a 6-month thru-hike and I've regretted it every day since. I'd buy another one tomorrow if I could but they've got too expensive.

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL 3 роки тому +1

      @@cisium1184 You were careful. If you had been in an accident, you would have been hurt way worse than if you were in a modern car.
      Old Beetles are nice to look at, but they really are a Sunday-morning breakfast getter and not a valid method of daily transportation.

    • @cisium1184
      @cisium1184 3 роки тому +1

      @@Flies2FLL LOL, well I ride motorcycles exclusively now, so a Beetle is an armored car by comparison.

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL 3 роки тому +1

      @@cisium1184 Hahah! B safe-

    • @cisium1184
      @cisium1184 3 роки тому

      @@Flies2FLL Oh yes, always. Thanks!

  • @danw1955
    @danw1955 Рік тому

    I had 3 VWs total. 2 - Type 2 buses and a '71 standard Beetle. Almost essential engine upgrades were performed on the buses.. a relatively stock 1600 dual-port for the 1964, and a Type I 1835 cc. heavily modded stroker for the 1972 bus, which originally came with the not too popular 1.7 Porsche engine. It actually had enough horsepower to run down the interstate, and still got 24+ mpg.! The 1971 Beetle was my 'sleeper'. It got a heavily modded 2132 cc. stroker that would take down most small-block V8s of the day and was an absolute blast to drive!!😄

  • @dave8599
    @dave8599 3 роки тому +6

    The golf never sold more than the Bug. The golf went thru several complete redesigns. The name lived, but the car changed to much to be considered a singular design.

    • @kyledavis4890
      @kyledavis4890 2 роки тому

      And, by the same token, the Toyota Corolla would not have outsold the VW beetle.

  • @RealValensco
    @RealValensco 3 роки тому +2

    It is very rare to see the VW Brasilia to be mentioned outside Brazil. In fact, brazilian VW was quite creative until a few decades ago, creating some unique cars, either brazilian VW exclusive models, like the SP1 and SP2, or support small makers like Puma, Gurgel, and many, many others, that made a lot of unique and interesting cars using the Beetle as a base.

  • @nikolaikola8925
    @nikolaikola8925 3 роки тому +62

    A car so "good" nothing could replace it

    • @hwansung-cho
      @hwansung-cho 3 роки тому +4

      You mean absolute rubbish to even be bothered?

    • @charlesc.9012
      @charlesc.9012 3 роки тому +7

      For the price you could buy it at, it was. It was also a little bigger than a nuova 500. Even then, most of Europe and Japan got around on scooters, so having any type of car was a big deal

    • @nikolaikola8925
      @nikolaikola8925 3 роки тому +2

      @@charlesc.9012 No argue with price, but a Yugo was cheap as chips. Still utter shite. Cheap isn't good. Better than walking isnt good

    • @charlesc.9012
      @charlesc.9012 3 роки тому +4

      @@nikolaikola8925 So was the 2CV and FIAT 500 Nuova by today's standards. Unlike the Yugo, it became dependable, and unlike the lada and polski 126, it was not 10 years behind the closest competition upon launch.
      It just makes you sound detached from reality and history as well as pretentious that you look down upon these essential mounts people rode from rural areas for a living, and many still could never afford one. You cannot even state clearly why they were bad.
      It is not like their dynamics and equipment levels were far behind, nor was the layout worse. Reliability was not good in the day, so it was average upon launch.
      Better than walking was wonderful. It meant you actually got to places in days instead of months. The Yugo was not, it spent more time on the side of the road or in pieces in a garage to make a difference

    • @MrHBSoftware
      @MrHBSoftware 3 роки тому +8

      @@hwansung-cho they were very reliable even on hot climates like brasil...they were also very easy to service...for me those two matter more than anything else when choosing a car...but to each his own

  • @richardwarren7492
    @richardwarren7492 4 місяці тому

    Had 2 64'sa 68, a 69 type 3 fastback, 2017 Pink Beetle -- Loved them all, also a 199.5 new Jetta for 19 years.

  • @Tourist1967
    @Tourist1967 3 роки тому +5

    The main difference between the Mini and the Beetle was that the Beetle was a design dead end. Air-cooled, rear engined, rear wheel drive v. transverse-mounted front engine and front wheel drive - the design template for small cars ever since.

    • @kyle8952
      @kyle8952 3 роки тому

      Not such a dead end as you think. There's really nothing wrong with the rear engine concept, it's just unconventional. It works well in the twingo.

    • @kyledavis4890
      @kyledavis4890 2 роки тому

      Or, was it a design ahead of its time? Modern ev car makers usually put the batteries in the floor pan and sometimes the motor in the back.

    • @wiegraf9009
      @wiegraf9009 Рік тому

      Well it was the template for the 911 so I would hardly say it was a design dead end.

    • @Tourist1967
      @Tourist1967 Рік тому

      @@wiegraf9009 Exactly. A dead end.

    • @wiegraf9009
      @wiegraf9009 Рік тому

      @@Tourist1967 Still winning races the world over and tremendously popular

  • @janmajer865
    @janmajer865 Рік тому +1

    I had a 1967 and a 1970 Beetle.Reliable and easy to work on.

  • @someonecalledeulogio2280
    @someonecalledeulogio2280 3 роки тому +4

    In México, the Beetle was a success...
    Also, mexican gobernment prohibited new car manufacturers to come to the country, that's why between the 60's and the 90's México only had Volkswagen, Nissan, Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge

  • @free-birdrocker8809
    @free-birdrocker8809 3 роки тому +2

    Man, some of those prototypes look like a blast to drive around. Im a German, Britt, Italian car lover. I was sad to hear that the bad guys forced VW to ax alot of these awesome cars. A family member had a mint 2007 VW beetle that I drove for a while, and it handled and drove pretty quick. Forget about working on it though. I talked to a dealer for VW and he said they will be re-introducing the rear engined beetle. But no dice. I did drive a hot rodded 69 beetle, and it was fast, and it cracked me up how it lunged forward every shift of a gear. It had Fuchs rims and lots of chrome under the hood. Man, they need to bring back the beetle and keep it a gas powered car.😎

  • @louiewiessv5756
    @louiewiessv5756 3 роки тому +5

    Even the new beetle and recent beetle weren’t that successful. I just can’t rap my head why they would put engine in the front thus eliminating the only trunk they had. Simply taking a useful car and making it a eco 2door that is not at all useful.
    If they went back to the original layout it would be a hit!

    • @vintage76vipergreenBeetle
      @vintage76vipergreenBeetle 3 роки тому +1

      You're right. VW screw up big time.

    • @MrHBSoftware
      @MrHBSoftware 3 роки тому +3

      building a safe to drive car with a rear engine takes a massive engineering effort sometimes even lots of electronic dirving assists and dymanic suspension are required...ask porsche fans...the most logical and viable way to build a car is with the engine on the front, the same axle that has the steering, for obvious reasons... i am not saying rear engined cars are bad, no...but they cost a lot more to manufacture and it would not make sense for the new beetle...makes sense for prosche because its basically in their pedigree...

    • @vintage76vipergreenBeetle
      @vintage76vipergreenBeetle 3 роки тому

      @@MrHBSoftware
      VW should have built the new Beetle with the engine in rear. Build it right or don't bother. They screw up period, and the sales of the pos shows.

    • @kyle8952
      @kyle8952 3 роки тому +1

      @@MrHBSoftware Please look at the Twingo before you talk again. That's a cheap, small rear engined car, came out less than 10 years ago.

  • @guycortesi
    @guycortesi Рік тому

    This is really the story of Volkswagen - and a good one at that! Thanks for the informative video.

  • @rosiehawtrey
    @rosiehawtrey 3 роки тому +4

    Porsche created the "nicked-it-from-tatra-and-banned-tatras-model-wagen". It's a complete knockoff of the T97. VW were almost bankrupted when Tatra sued them into the ground and won.

    • @martinmuller2809
      @martinmuller2809 3 роки тому +2

      There were more people that claimed to have invented the car than cars that tried to replace it: Erwin Komenda, Josef Ganz, Béla Barényi, Hans Ledwinka to name a few. Some made money from it some didn't. The million that tatra got in 1961 "almost bankrupted" VW, OK that's new to me.

    • @aris95
      @aris95 3 роки тому

      Mr A. Hitler removed Tatra from the Berlin autoshow

  • @matheus_ps
    @matheus_ps 3 роки тому +1

    Fun fact: The VW Beetle (or Fusca as we call it here) ended production in Brazil in 1986, but the president asked VW to start producing it again in 1993, and so the Fusca lived another life until 1996 when it ended production for good

  • @glasslinger
    @glasslinger 3 роки тому

    My first car was a 58 beetle. I drove it for 7 years before it had serious engine problems. I really loved that car in spite of living in Houston TX with the 100 degree summers! The bug had very good heat though!

  • @garage6346
    @garage6346 3 роки тому +4

    An extra thumbs up for the unexpected "Marxism" :-)

  • @floydblandston108
    @floydblandston108 3 роки тому

    My Father had a part-time position with a large VW dealer/distributor during his time in West Germany with the U.S. Army in the early 1960's. Primarily charged with selling Beetles to other servicemen- relatively well off financially by German standards- he also got to test and comment on many VW/Porsche/NSU/Audi prototypes, driving them on the companies attached test track. He was very impressed by the NSU rotary engines, and Prinz model particularly. The base Commandant forced him out of it after awhile- 'fraternization' was still something they were worried about back then- but he did return to the states with his own brand new bug, shipped by military transport from Bremerhaven to New York City.

  • @stepanrumyantsev6098
    @stepanrumyantsev6098 3 роки тому +4

    04:15 The home of the Automobile is not the USA but rather Germany

    • @vasopel
      @vasopel 3 роки тому

      well yes USA is the home of "driving a car",like the netherlands is the home of cycling..even though the first bicycles were made in france and the first "normal" bicycles were made in england.

    • @DanaTheInsane
      @DanaTheInsane 3 роки тому

      We were the home of cheap cars for everybody.

  • @toineleuverink9905
    @toineleuverink9905 3 роки тому +1

    Well again....another perfect documentary. Thank you!