How tech update crashed the world… Microsoft & Crowdstrike chaos explained and it could happen again
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- People across the world have been hit by mayhem today with a global IT outage seeing NHS appointment chaos, mass train and flight cancellations - and it could last days.
Major airports, airlines, railways and supermarkets have been hit by the suspected CrowdStrike issue that saw Microsoft services crash worldwide.
Television channels, banks, GPs and supermarkets around the world have been rocked by the chaos - as schools all over Britain break up for the summer holidays today.
Meanwhile, schoolcomms - a communication app used by over 3,000 schools - says it is among the many companies affected by the outage.
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And they want us to trust a digital online financial system. C’mon really
and you think that your money in your bank are actually bank notes? Banks are already a digital online financial system before crypto.
@@jasonhing No point explaining. They think it's all a great big conspiracy . . .
Cryptocurrency is the only way. Many nodes around the world support the various networks out there. You'd have to have a worldwide electrcity outage for it to go down.
Your finance has been online for the last few decades
Strange it didnt effect the stock exchange.
Is it just me or do updates never fix problems, just create new problems to fix?
💯 designed that way
Always
@@tranquilgiftsonline Stick to what you know (if you know anything at all that is!) . . .
@@tranquilgiftsonline
What are you smoking lil bro 😂
Job creation
Crowdstrike didnt test the update on their own systems first?
From: "King Osirus" Keep That Under Your Hat!
internal testing environments are not a catch all solution, majority of bugs are caught outside of this.
they did, we are the beta test
real men test on production
Like the way the UK Post Office tested the Horizon system ???
What a name for a security company, sounds more like a forewarning
Good observation.
As someone who dealt with this today, the solution was simple but very manual.
Boot into safemode, delete a specific file then reboot
It gets a lot harder when in a corporate environment something like bitlocker is installed as every device has a unique bitlocker code.
The main issue is that none of this can realistically be done remotely and has to have someone on the device
Remember kids, a cashless society is for YOUR benefit 🙄
Billy Gates preparing you for the future.
For ultimate security, do not switch Your computer on, dead computers never get infected by malware!
Good job
It is not malware.
None of our systems with nhs worked and it’s insane how unstable these systems are
All this Technology is crap.
It was easier in the 80s with cash and the yellow pages 😂
I agree robbed an old lady the other day and ended up with a bus pass and a declined credit card not a bit of cash on her.
But ironically you're learning and complaining about it via said technology.
ah yes, one mistake means all technology is crap. What happens if your cash and yellow pages set on fire? lol.
@@iCore7Gamingbecause we have much more control over physical items it would be a lot harder for someone to set all your cash and yellow pages on fire than it is for someone to wipe out any digital account or do something like this.
Penny for the thoughts of the manager at crowdstrike who signed off on the update, and the engineers who created the update 😅 Doubt they’ll ever get a job in tech again
I was thinking the same thing... You don't want to be THAT engineer! 😅
No worries, noone is going to get fired.
test for the black swan event
How ridiculous we all know it was climate change that caused this. If only we paid more taxes and eat ze bugs this could have been avoided.
Crowdstrike is done. What colosal mistake
Imagine being their PR manager? You'd be working overtime!!! 😅
Owned by Blackrock too 👀
@@TrollingNormies Zero relevance.
The failure is depending upon products from a single company running global systems. there own system caused this problem
Imagine all currency and identity being victimized by an attack globe would be pushed bk to 1800’s
You are absolutely clueless with claims like this. It's an antivirus software which sits on kernel level, it has nothing to do with 'depending on a single company'. It's that the AV Software needs to operate from that level to be effective against malicious activity, for the very same reason, it can cause issues like this.
@@JZ-ly5no nice name 😂
Really shows how much power one company has
After all the high tech infra, we still go back to manual paper system.
A cyber attach from a cyber security company. What happened? Crowdstrike obviously didn't test this update version on a test system before releasing it to the world. shameful.
This should be a prime example of not rushing ahead in any new update or product for companies and corporations in general. Better test and re-test BEFORE launching.
How ridiculous we all know it was Hamas or Iran proxies or climate change or Putin’s price hike or migrants that caused it
I got to worry more about the people “protecting” the system than those attacking it. That shows clearly the issue with cyber security we have. Not the attacks but the overstimulated devs trying to justify their job by doing constant changes making systems more and more overcomplicated and harder and harder to access.
And what happens the next time something like this occurs and the system doesn't reboot....?
The scariest scenario.😳 Digital apocalypse 😯
Bill gates what surprise wake up people look what's going on around you 🙄
Bill Gate has not been involved in the day to day operations of Microsoft for quite some time now. He is not on the board of directors or has any officer role. Yes he has lots of shares (Only about 1.5% but hell that is a lot of money.) HIs focus has been more on philanthropy (Which given your comment, I expect you think is injecting people with tracking chips.).
Need to find a new bugbear
Crowdstrike - "We're Better Than Competent - We're Diverse."
It's even worse : _"CrowdStrike Holdings, Inc. is an American cybersecurity technology company based in Austin, Texas."_ : they are security specialists… mouhahaharfff !!
@@hankhulator5007😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is why having a purely digital currency is a bad idea!
LOL Airports - Home PC's, Mental Health Services, Doctors, Hospitals, Shops, Banks... Almost everything XD
🤷🏾♂️ -"did you try to turn it off and turn it back on?"
Couldn't we just go back to using tried and trusted technology of the 1980s? Whenever things such as bells and whistles in everyday life increase, so does the likelihood of failure and decreased reliability.
And that decreased reliability is in exchange for advancements and comforts that we all now take for granted. Airports, for example, in those periods were clunky and slow, and far less equipped for the masses of people that now have access to flying. Flying to a different country has never been easier, and it's because of that tech that this is even possible.
Things like this can happen, much like the power going out can knock out the airport's systems, even in the 80's. Does that mean we should go back to paper and boards, so the rare and very random electrical faults can't bust everything up? Seems silly, no?
@@echothefloof5438 Don't say BS, more than 40 years ago it was already working right, the only "comfort" that people have nowadays is to select the destination on their computer instead of manually changing a stripe on the display - it was even working much more reliably, as at this time, counters just had consoles hooked to a mainframe coordinating the whole shebang between companies mainframes, so the risk was almost non-existant.
@@hankhulator5007 If you're implying that 40 years ago these systems were perfect, and never had annoying or expensive faults, then I'm not the person BSing here. How many times in the last 20 years of internet and innovation have airports been shut down due to software issues? How many times did systems like arrival time boards or computers fail 40 years ago, causing major problems? It doesn't matter what time period you're in, these issues happen. They're annoying, time wasting, and stupid to think about given the tech of the time, and that can be applied in the 1980's, and the 2020's.
@@echothefloof5438 They were for two reasons, first they were all using mainframes almost without external access, second, the communication was made through dedicated lines (yes phone lines with MODEM) that had no chances to be intercepted. It had a good side effect, if it wad no important data, it was not transmitted.
40 year ago, most of displays breakdowns origin were from a mechanic origin, not software's, for a very simple reason, when it was working as expected and bug free, _nobody_ wanted to "make it better". We, French, have a proverb applying to that : _" Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien"_ (literally : better is the enemy of good).
Today, IT companies and even programmers invent whatever reasons to break this basic but very wise rule - do you really think that your antivirus company needs a possibility to directly enter your computers ? This is one of the biggest NO-NO for me, reason for which I jettisoned window$ 25 years ago to flip to Linux, never regretted it.
technology from the 80s is awful. This was just a mistake from a corpate entity trying to churn out updates for quick bucks. There are many saftey nets in software development to ensure this doesn't happen, but it appears that cloudstrike ignored all of them.
Yup my doctors can't access important information
Skynet has become self aware, the dawn of AI 😮
I would’ve thought a technology company like Microsoft would’ve had a back up system for situations like this
NOW IMAGINE THE CHAOS IF WE SWITCH TO DIGITAL CURRENCIES AND THE SAME THING HAPPENS!!
Crowdstrike? How ironic. Not 'the Russians' for once 😂
Just makes me wonder HOW Crowdstrike test their updates... SURELY the logical thing would be to release it onto a collection of Windows computers in a controlled environment BEFORE releasing it to the world???
Crowd-Strike. The clue is in the name !😂
CrowdStrike did not directly contribute to the recent Microsoft global outage. However, CrowdStrike’s cybersecurity expertise was leveraged to investigate and mitigate the impact of the outage. They provided critical insights and support to help identify the root cause and secure affected systems.
Root Cause: The outage was traced back to a configuration change in Microsoft’s network infrastructure. This change inadvertently caused a cascading failure that disrupted service availability.
Who else would like to go back 40 years and enjoy a blissful world of no internet and no mobile phones ? Yes please from me…on another note I would like to have a little bet that this is all in preparation for the US election in November. They know they have no chance of beating their nemesis so they will just shut it all down. Just wait and see
Yes please life was simpler then
The bbc are claiming this is only happening in birmingham & leeds 🤣
Common, you can't even thinking to trust people that are lying to you 365/24/7.
It's to do with the new payment system XRP, well that's what i've read.
It will take 1000 years manually to fix everything 😂
Omg, I hope AI doesn’t notice how easy it is to shut us down😱
Politicians more interested in supporting war in Ukraine, than the sorting out mess in their own country!😮
This is just proof that we should never go cashless. Always use cash to keep it alive.
Thats why I got a text from my doctors this morning saying they lost their access to their bookings information lol
Crowdstrike - Stop breaches; drive business. - Well, you'll stop breaches certainly when things go down, but you'll drive business right into the ground 😂😂😂
damn hopefully developers can patch bug in the new update 4.3
Technology is a wonderful thing. It's mostly reliable and secure. We don't need analogue anymore. Just place your faith in digitisation and technology. IT outages and hacking show us just how great digitisation is 😮
bambo printer on the back, nice!
Quite embarrassing that the whole world halted because of s bad update, maybe a wakeup call to become a little more human again.
How many personal computers would use Crowdstrike. Not many
My internet was off for many many hours.
Allowing Redmond unlimited, unregulated, unfettered telemetry access to your private computer causes your personal computer to suffer the Blue Screen of Death. I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.
WEF is responsible
String? Check.
Paperclip? I’m buggered.
Am not surprised it broke down as nearly everything is done on the internet now
Microsoft? Isn't that the company that was said to launch various iterations of software untested and let the users find the bugs?
I’m glad I’m in Austin where the company is HQ,d. No issues here. Go read the Wikipedia page for this company. Awesome company. How can they be involved in this much stuff? Went public in 2019 with a rise of 70% and immediately was worth 11 billion.
Two fingers to those who only accept cards for payment .
Crowdstrike One is just a proof of concept by a sleeper, a rehearsal if you will. Just wait and see what the mark 2 can hand down. Check dates in November.
Crowdstrike uses as well Linux servers, and that ones didn't crash. Clients that demand the servers to be windows are the most guilty ones. We all know that Linux on servers work, are better and safer than the extremely expensive Microsoft software are.💯
Who use more that 1 brain cell, wants always Linux for servers. ☺
How did this impact the airplanes in the air at the time?
Yep we are in the GM FLINT TRUCK & our systems are down & that shuts us all down!
so this is who the f gave me a heart attack when my very much expensive laptop suddently went nuts
As a systems analyst, why are updates done without notice!?!?!?!??
Because as a Systems Analyst, you understand that it was a definition (sensor) update for CrowdStrike which acts as an anti-virus, and you should be keeping definitions up to date.
Crowdstrike....with a name like that I'm not surprise it failed.
Classic. The Anti-virus software (update) was a Trojan horse (virus). BTW 40 years in Software we called this type of thing "Coupling / Dependency" ie Only as strong as the weakest link.🙃
I think public cloud systems especially Microsoft cloud solutions will again be under scrutiny. One more reason to go for a unix based machines.
Did they try to turn it off and on again?
It's not a difficult fix, but when you know you know!
Thank you woke Microsoft 👍
Ako, ako, cisto malo da se oseti kako uistinu izgleda digitalizacija. Ma, cesce ovo treba da se desava, da zombirani ukapiraju kuda digitalizaija vodi.
I agree @100%.
Have they tried turning the computer off and switching it back on again? 😃😃😃
It’s like the selling point is don’t worry it’s not a cyber attack…… just the equivalent worst case scenario…😂
Hi, may be (one can always dream about it) m$ will cease to treat its customers as alpha-testers, but as it is their culture and not a feature, I strongly doubt it. "Curiously", this is something I've never saw happening in the Linux/Unix world.
_"rathing than having a SPOF"_ - In fact, window$ is a SPOF by construction…
well played ..... the test was sucessful .....
Did "they" just update the voting machines for Nov ?
lol that’s a thought.
So how much CO2 was saved because if this IT problem?
What happens when you don't respect the machine spirts.
It is only a matter of time. Humanity relies far too much on digitality (my word! ©️)
True. One ginormous flare from the sun could take out the world computers and we would not even get water from our taps.
@@bettymarshall2702 it would also take out all your electrics, I am intrigued how it effects tapped as I would assume it has no effect
"Don't have any worries about your personal data being stolen..."; Cuz the tech giants already have it. 😂
There updating the system to make way for XRPL global payment system for the banks,
I'm wondering if this will mess with elections
Wonder what the *real* update was....
Experts baffled
Please Don't Panic!😄Of course, we will not return to the "polished stone age", but we will say "hello" to the 70s or 80s again..😁So..😊
This what happens when the world decided to rely on technology bring back the good old days when there was no computers no mobile phone and people actually talked to each other ,if ever we lost the use of tech the only people who could survive would be those born in the 60s we used our brains then I would miss putting my points of view out to the world but instead I would have to spread the word by talking to people.
Some people born in the 1940s and '50s are still with us. We are the ones who know how to punctuate.
no thanks. please go away boomer.
NEVER trust Microsoft with your future :-/ (& Microsoft wants to own everything to)
Never give up paper money
So many TV networks are getting this wrong. There were no updates pushed down to those windows hosts. Crowdstirke is an EDR so it all happens in real time. Crowdstrike will fix this on their end and will just have to reboot and it will be ok. A work around was to delete the the falcon sensor in C:\Windows\System32\drivers\crowsdstrike then reboot. First you’d have to boot into safe mode to do this. Now depending if those are on AWS ec2 or Azure VM, the process will be so different. If you have bitlocker then that would have been much harder. Just wait for crowdstrike to fix it on their end and reboot. Save yourself the headache from doing the workaround
yeah but how did this happen what do you mean no updates were pushed and it happens in real time?
@@user-qd3mi2vl2l so the architecture is different. Their sensors via their falcon agent have a dependency via the Crowdstrike back-end on the cloud. So the update happened there and in turn caused the blue screen of death on windows hosts.
EDRs work very differently from your traditional antivirus. What I'm saying is once they fix it on their end you will just have to reboot the host.
It could have been worse if it was actually the way most think has happened. If that was the case how will you now push an update to a computer which is not operational 🤷♂️ just saying. Its already very bad but it would have been worse.
Look up EDR @@user-qd3mi2vl2l
You only need to delete the definition (sensor) update file. Yes, with Bitlocker you'd have to contact us in IT to get the recovery key which ideally should be stored in your AD but it'll ask for the key when you open the prompt.
Edit: Also, it seems highly unlikely that CrowdStrike can roll out an easy "fix". The computers worse affected like the ones I had to fix cannot even boot to Windows normally and cannot get sufficient network access to pull down any kind of fix. You'd be stuck in a boot loop until manual intervention and no amount of rebooting or waiting will fix that.
This is wrong. The fix cannot be done remotely because the computers can't be booted until the faulty file is removed.
Assume the solution is going to be more reliance on information technology 😂
Getting us ready for the big switch off
Have they tried ctr+alt+del ?/🤔
WTHell is an applied futurist 😂😂
Never heard of thee company but now everyone knows them.
I think this is what everyone was led to expect at the turn of 2000 😂
fix? Delete ONE file and reboot the machine
Sure bud
@@TomTKK worked on my laptop though
@@andrzejyczewski4045 Work laptop?
Applied futurist?!?
Just before they want to roll out CBDC 😂😂😂
Laughs in hardware, deemed to old to accept latest updates 😂
Watching this on Pop! OS
Im having no luck with lv insurance
Well I guess it’s not the end of the world…
Should have use Linux can you want to have a blackout yesterday
They need technician not engineer mate
Get paper back, were always gonna need trees, better for our eyes than everything being online.Have they got back up system hmmmm;)