Well There's Your Problem | Episode 110: Ponte Morandi

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  • Опубліковано 4 сер 2022
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  • @PhilosophyTube
    @PhilosophyTube Рік тому +723

    I had a really really awful day, and hearing Liam say my name at the start and be nice made me smile for the first time since this morning

  • @thomaspalazzolo5902
    @thomaspalazzolo5902 Рік тому +823

    Liam's psychologist telling him to listen to a person who he records a podcast with has big, "You should see Grimaldi, he'll cheer you up!" "But doctor, I AM Grimaldi" energy.

    • @johnbradley2343
      @johnbradley2343 Рік тому +103

      "But doctor, I perform in the same circus as Pagliacci, so fuck me I guess!"

    • @Weeping_Willoe
      @Weeping_Willoe Рік тому +121

      @@johnbradley2343 Doc, I work with Pagliacci, we talk, he’s not doing that well either

    • @fleurdelispens
      @fleurdelispens Рік тому +35

      That literally happened to Contrapoints

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix Рік тому

      ​@@fleurdelispens Fuck them, I guess. lol

  • @DeadWhiteButterflies
    @DeadWhiteButterflies Рік тому +604

    RIP Justin's Kermit voice. Real talk, happy to hear you sound well.

    • @yam83
      @yam83 Рік тому +20

      The Jordan Peterson squeak

    • @zagnorch1336
      @zagnorch1336 Рік тому +17

      The voice didn't die, it was merely... canceled.
      But fear not, it landed a lucrative gig over at some place called the D@!ly W!r3...

    • @TheSneakyDuck
      @TheSneakyDuck Рік тому +3

      I'm glad roz no longer has felt vocal cords.

    • @peskypigeonx
      @peskypigeonx Рік тому +2

      @@zagnorch1336 The ignorance of Jordan Peterson will RISE AGAIN

    • @zagnorch1336
      @zagnorch1336 Рік тому +1

      @@peskypigeonx Then we'll see who cancels whom!

  • @eskiwhat68
    @eskiwhat68 Рік тому +137

    "Just imagine the horrible maintenance costs if we'd used a design that allowed maintenance!"

    • @LeafseasonMagbag
      @LeafseasonMagbag Рік тому +6

      Where megacorporations and governments are concerned, at the most cynical level, having infrastructure just fall over is easier. Especially with older infrastructure that needs end-of-life service.
      With companies always remember they only think about three months ahead (one financial quarter).
      Maintenance costs look bad on short-term cost/earnings sheets, just because they’re large expenses.
      “% chance of bridge fall down” isn’t included in those figures. They want to see more quarterly profits so they’ll cut back on costs wherever those costs are.

  • @joemccarthy114
    @joemccarthy114 Рік тому +346

    This disaster is so quintessentially WTYP in every aspect I truly wonder if they themselves perpetrated the event just to make this episode

    • @goodluck5642
      @goodluck5642 Рік тому +46

      Justin’s Kermit voice was actually a paid actor while he was busy strapping charges to some Kentucky dam

    • @Rosa-lv8yw
      @Rosa-lv8yw Рік тому +24

      Justin has a mysterious pair of binoculars with print on them saying "PROPERTY OF WHITE STAR LINE. DO NOT REMOVE FROM TITANIC."

    • @antilivvy7373
      @antilivvy7373 Рік тому +8

      4th host, mothman!

  • @AGenericMoron
    @AGenericMoron Рік тому +139

    I have to give Alice props for her delivery at 1:02:30 or so when she says: "And so, a lot of Italy's infrastructure just sort of... collapses, metaphorically; And a lot of Italy's infrastructure just sort of... collapses (next slide please) literally"

    • @saddlepiggy
      @saddlepiggy Рік тому +9

      Almost thought my phone went back a couple seconds lol

    • @OriginalPineapplesFoster
      @OriginalPineapplesFoster Рік тому +5

      I jumped ahead to be sure I would not miss this gem, and was not disappointed. Excited to see it again with context. Thanks for pointing it out. ✌️🍍

  • @pendragonchen
    @pendragonchen Рік тому +293

    I love Well There's Your Problem. Well There's Your Problem is my favorite podcast. I found my wife 2 years ago when I asked what podcasts she listened to and she said her favorite was a little known podcast called Well There's Your Problem, a podcast with slides. We are now on our second child, and are planning to name them Problem in honor of this podcast. You have changed our lives forever.

    • @Rosa-lv8yw
      @Rosa-lv8yw Рік тому +60

      Pendragon: "Where's my kid gone?"
      Teacher: *points to the child, and looks at the camera* "Well there's your problem"

    • @-Cece
      @-Cece Рік тому +6

      Wonderful story!

    • @trioptimum9027
      @trioptimum9027 Рік тому +15

      Congrats on the new addition to your Meat Deck Crew!

    • @Peter-iq9yy
      @Peter-iq9yy Рік тому +6

      I recommend naming your Children 'well, there's, your, and problem' in order of birth dates

    • @SlimbTheSlime
      @SlimbTheSlime Рік тому +5

      You’re gonna raise a problem child

  • @lucakoop1615
    @lucakoop1615 Рік тому +157

    Fun Fact:
    I drove over that bridge on my Trip home to Germany from my Holidays.
    a day later i came home, booted up my computer and low and behold:
    the first news-page i opened talked about how Ponte Morandi had collapsed.

    • @peskypigeonx
      @peskypigeonx Рік тому +12

      Imagine you had decided to stay one more day lol

    • @wulferikgebhardt5312
      @wulferikgebhardt5312 Рік тому +5

      So did I, also from Germany, although a couple years before that.

    • @RedwingBB
      @RedwingBB Рік тому +10

      Whoaa .. getting a whole Final Destination vibe, plz be careful out there :'(

    • @iannsinger5760
      @iannsinger5760 Рік тому +4

      Where were you on September 11th, 2001?

    • @jizburg
      @jizburg Рік тому +5

      @@iannsinger5760 many are asking this.

  • @pearceburns2787
    @pearceburns2787 Рік тому +76

    9:40 (UK-NI) I worked at a petrol station (gas station) and had a motorcyclist come in, and ask if he could buy a milk carton (HDPE) so he could dump the milk, fill up the carton, and use that to fill up his bike that had ran out some time up the street.
    We had to explain to him that no. That's not safe. You'll probably create napalm, on our yard. PLEASE PURCHASE THIS JUG THAT IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO HOLD THE LIQUID FIRE.

    • @johannageisel5390
      @johannageisel5390 Рік тому +11

      It's also a waste of milk. Some calf lost its mom for that.

    • @Crazyfrog41
      @Crazyfrog41 Рік тому +7

      @@johannageisel5390 I... Don't think that's how milk works...

    • @johannageisel5390
      @johannageisel5390 Рік тому +13

      @@Crazyfrog41 Actually it does.
      Cows only give milk in order to feed their calves. So, to produce milk industrially, the calves are taken away from the mothers at a young age and fed with formula, why the mother cow is being milked and her milk is being used for human consumption.
      This is traumatic for both the calf and the cow.
      I don't want to shame people who consume dairy products, because I'm not a vegan myself, but we should be aware of the circumstances under which these products are made and not senselessly waste them.
      That goes for all food items - they deserve respect.

    • @steemlenn8797
      @steemlenn8797 Рік тому +9

      @@johannageisel5390 I think he wanted to say that more likely a cow lost her calf than a dead cow giving milk, as you implied.

  • @celiagillars2376
    @celiagillars2376 Рік тому +118

    "Why do you do this to yourselves?"
    50% entertainment, 20% masochism, 30% actionable threats are funny as hell

  • @giovannitorre2189
    @giovannitorre2189 Рік тому +358

    As a genoese I have both dreaded and looked forward to this episode for more than 2 years. The comparison with Glasgow is very fitting as we also have strong football divide, which has much less evident sectarian/ethnic overtones. We have a very wide vocabulary of slurs, a thick accent and a dying local language. The wider region is more like Cornwall in its hatred of tourists and outsiders in general. The pronunciation of local places by Alice is ok-ish, but the pizza references are way off base, pasta al pesto would be "it" for us, DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH we're not all bloody Naples or Rome here in the boot. Despite that 10/10 great effort. Appreciated in particular the bits about post war development shenanigans.

    • @dog-ez2nu
      @dog-ez2nu Рік тому

      Also just like the British, Italians are abused for their accents.

    • @jbkjbk1999
      @jbkjbk1999 Рік тому +130

      I hope you realise how Italian it is for you to get mad at people not for making fun of Italians, but for making fun of the *wrong kind* of Italians.

    • @giovannitorre2189
      @giovannitorre2189 Рік тому +53

      @@jbkjbk1999 I sure do but it's a small price to pay to avoid being mistaken for the emmets

    • @nomchomsley854
      @nomchomsley854 Рік тому +4

      I like mine with pineapple on it :^)

    • @giovannitorre2189
      @giovannitorre2189 Рік тому +29

      @@nomchomsley854 you do you buddy, 2010 memes are none of my business ^^

  • @jimkay2728
    @jimkay2728 Рік тому +109

    The rotating teacher, two class clowns dynamic is what keeps bringing me back to this wonderful podcast

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 Рік тому +12

      When a guest hosts and Roz can be the third Marx(ist) brother is just beautiful.

    • @nicksGLI
      @nicksGLI 6 місяців тому +1

      Who is who, though?

  • @masonturner0
    @masonturner0 Рік тому +140

    This week WTYP returns to its roots and talks about Bridge Shenanigans

    • @GetIntoItDuhh
      @GetIntoItDuhh Рік тому +21

      Next weeks episode: the Tacoma narrows bridge disaster

    • @scorpiosystem8082
      @scorpiosystem8082 Рік тому +7

      and also hating italians

    • @DiamondKingStudios
      @DiamondKingStudios 6 місяців тому

      @@GetIntoItDuhh[somehow turns the Boston Molasses Flood of 1919 into a bridge collapse]

  • @SnowCat-nu7gj
    @SnowCat-nu7gj Рік тому +45

    Justin's creep joke is the most STEM university lecturer joke I have every heard in my life

  • @OrbitalRose_01
    @OrbitalRose_01 Рік тому +81

    I'm a fan of how increasingly cryptic the news headlines are getting

  • @ANunes06
    @ANunes06 Рік тому +137

    Just starting this, but I remember watching the security cam footage of this and there's a moment where a car Torettos off the point where it buckled and launches at least 20 feet off the surface of the bridge before disappearing into the cloud of debris developing in front of it.
    I can only hope the driver was listening to Highway to Hell and not Lacrimosa, to fully encapsulate the Dude's Rock Mood they were trapped within.

    • @raycearcher5794
      @raycearcher5794 Рік тому +60

      The dust clears and their car is still falling
      It is now a deuce hotrod with sick flame decals, falling through hell
      It lands on a road made of human skulls in a desert of red diamonds and gigantic bleached ribs
      Several succubi with giant racks are thumbing a ride

    • @implodingbaby
      @implodingbaby Рік тому +4

      @@raycearcher5794 nice

    • @maybemablemaples2144
      @maybemablemaples2144 Рік тому +1

      @@raycearcher5794 very nice

    • @ANunes06
      @ANunes06 Рік тому +5

      @@raycearcher5794 Didn't expect such an elevation of the source material.
      Nice.

  • @sunyavadin
    @sunyavadin Рік тому +32

    For the last couple of decades, one of the notably growing groups for mesothelioma has been teachers, because of how much keeps getting disturbed in the ceilings of classrooms every time a door is slammed, even as it's trending downwards in construction trades.

  • @Dantyx1
    @Dantyx1 Рік тому +62

    We don't know for certain that the podcast hasn't killed 43 people though. Bold of Liam to assume it hasn't.

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat Рік тому +8

      this podcast has killed me many times

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Рік тому +5

      *⚠️ Warning: podcast may cause death in a spectacular and darkly comedic fashion.*
      *Consult your physician to see if podcast is safe for you.*

    • @ebnertra0004
      @ebnertra0004 Рік тому

      We can only hope it will. Those actionable threats have to kick in sooner or later

  • @yakovgolyadkin
    @yakovgolyadkin Рік тому +41

    The Safety Third reminds me of an issue in a building I lived in. Our building had a wet pipe fire sprinkler system and this dude on the 4th floor did something to either break the pipe or the sprinkler in his unit. Whatever he did, a ton of water started pouring in. It took about 30 minutes to shut off the water, and even after it shut off, there was still a ton of water in the system because it was a very large building. The water drained through all 3 apartments below and completely destroyed all of them. Was a nearly year-long project to rebuild all four apartments and involved demoing them down to the studs. After it was finally done and people moved back in, literally the 2nd day after moving back, the resident in the top floor apartment for some stupid reason left something on his stove and went out to the lobby to talk to the building manager. About 10 minutes later, the fire alarm went off, having been triggered by the sprinkler in his apartment being activated. Again, about 30 minutes to shut the water off, and the water already in the system draining out. Completely destroyed the same 4 units again.
    Best part is they were condos, so it wasn't renters being forced out, it was owners. And the same dude was responsible for both floods and had to pay for the renovations both times and all of their stuff and had to pay to put the people in the other 3 apartments in other housing somewhere for two years. I heard from someone who knew him that his insurance laughed at him the first time saying they weren't going to cover pretty much any of it because it was his own fault, and that because it was so soon after moving back in, he hadn't managed to get insurance yet by the time the second flood happened.

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Рік тому +5

      That's happened at my workplace a couple of times. Lots of sprinkers. The problem is that they are, as sprinkers should be, on the ceiling. On rare occasions someone has clipped one while carrying a tall object like a ladder, or wrestling a desk around when people are moving offices. Accidents happen, but we have the same flaw: Once the sprinker is triggered (By heat or collision) then the water /is/ coming out, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Рік тому +2

      Sprinkler water is very, very smelly.

    • @jrobson100
      @jrobson100 Рік тому +7

      @@vylbird8014 The best accidental sprinkler activation story I've heard is the guy at a furry convention who hung his very expensive (and heavy) fursuit on the sprinkler head in his hotel room and broke it off. Flooded the room, soaked his suit (and the room) with that awful smelly sprinkler water, and got to explain to everyone involved what had happened. He posted about it himself, basically as a PSA announcing "I am a fucking moron who cost myself thousands of dollars and ruined my convention weekend, don't be a moron like me/"

  • @christianweagle6253
    @christianweagle6253 Рік тому +51

    "We can have the cables corrode, quickly, or we can have them corrode, slowly and in an un-inspectable way. Decisions, decisions."

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 Рік тому +205

    Drach..Drachenifel...? You know, the naval guy that knows his disasters. He said on his last drydock that he'd heard of y'all and would be willing to come on for an episode.

    • @wulferikgebhardt5312
      @wulferikgebhardt5312 Рік тому +38

      Well, that would be awesome!

    • @rytedas
      @rytedas Рік тому +54

      An episode on terrible warships such as the HMS Captain, USS Galena or the Vasa would be interesting indeed.

    • @storeswallah
      @storeswallah Рік тому +22

      The HMS Victoria/Camperdown disaster would make a good episode.

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 Рік тому +22

      Holy shit that would be so based

    • @ww32
      @ww32 Рік тому +4

      Well that could be a could time

  • @ViolentOrchid
    @ViolentOrchid Рік тому +97

    I've learned from this pod that concrete is just an exceptionally rigid, wet sponge.
    On a separate note, is there concrete with plastic epoxy in it?

    • @PartlyDeaf
      @PartlyDeaf Рік тому +34

      Yes. You can add many substances to concrete to alter its wet and hardened properties. These are called admixtures. An epoxy admixture could be used as a bonding agent to help fresh concrete bond with old, existing concrete.

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 Рік тому +5

      Mixing in plastic fibres is useful for stopping surface cracking during drying, and for more effective (low) force distribution - like getting back to the days of mixing chopped straw into mud bricks. Also mixing in short metal wires, like throwing bucketfuls of paperclips into the mix, but a bit fancier.

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Рік тому +8

      There's concrete now with a small amount of graphene added. Recent innovation. It's still only being used for low-risk things like flooring, because construction firms are reluctant to use a material that doesn't have decades of proven dependability. Also because no-one understands exactly how it works: The graphene isn't enough to actually strengthen the material directly, but it seems to have some sort of unknown chemical interaction which makes the concrete both stronger and very, very fast to set. If no major flaws are found, it may be a wonder-material for the future. Or maybe the floors will all start cracking in ten years - accelerated aging test chambers can only tell you so much.

  • @bobsmith2637
    @bobsmith2637 Рік тому +22

    All this talk about tensioning made me think about how old wooden railcars were constructed, with threaded truss rods underneath the body. When the car got old and started to sag the railroad would get a guy with a really big wrench to tighten up the turnbuckles in the middle of the rods and suck the car straight again.

  • @oldiaul
    @oldiaul Рік тому +51

    Ah the 5 Star Movement, the party who were in government when this happened.
    Three days after the collapse, their press secretary (who, before going into politics, came in 4th place in the first season of Italian Big Brother back in 2000) sent a voice message to a bunch of journalists saying "Stop stressing me. I already had my Ferragosto (15th of August) ruined by this thing."

    • @GigasGMX
      @GigasGMX Рік тому +6

      Wasn’t that the wacky “we’ll run the party OVER THE INTERNET!” Party?

    • @oldiaul
      @oldiaul Рік тому +7

      @@GigasGMX It still is.
      It's the "instead of acting like elected MPs we'll have the users of our app make every important decision" party.
      They've continuously been in government (3 different ones) since 2018, but now internal splits lost them half of their seats and caused next month's snap elections.

    • @AsbestosMuffins
      @AsbestosMuffins Рік тому

      @@oldiaul Ya but at least they're transparently bad, the US parties take unlimited sums of money, secret dinners and outright unreported bribes all under the cover of our piss poor financial reporting laws. Just look at how the carried interest loophole keeps not getting closed because 1 or 2 people always have a strong opinion for saving it, one they can never articulate for some reason, but they get lots of money

    • @Vesta_the_Lesser
      @Vesta_the_Lesser Рік тому +6

      That quote gives me “schetino mumbling “Dimitri Christidis” while de Falco yells at him” vibes.

    • @umusuuk
      @umusuuk Рік тому +5

      yep, that's what you get with populists. turns out there is a reason why most politicians are the way they are, and that includes being slightly repulsive, but they are also very focused on policy. everyone likes small government until there's a need for actual governing.

  • @skylermathewson1203
    @skylermathewson1203 Рік тому +12

    My grandmother used to work as a secretary at Wanamaker's in Philadelphia in the 40's. I miss her. I appreciate the reminder, no matter how small.

  • @robokop4491
    @robokop4491 Рік тому +23

    Here we go, it's Well There's Your Rebar

  • @thetrainhopper8992
    @thetrainhopper8992 Рік тому +31

    Going from the picture of that first rickety concrete bridge to the picture of the bridge in questions before it fell over is the most Cities Skylines ass bridge I have seen. It literally looks like someone just drug it across the river and it just scaled to the space it needed.

  • @Turbobuttes
    @Turbobuttes Рік тому +9

    Hi, my name is Pepe dall Italia. You may remember me from such disasters as the Vajont Dam, the Costa Concordia or the Ustica Massacre.

  • @Nolano386
    @Nolano386 Рік тому +20

    Liam, I just don't pay attention to release dates and simply enjoy what you put out whenever it happens to arrive. :)

  • @fauxpinkytoo
    @fauxpinkytoo Рік тому +82

    YAY, LIAM!! Love you, Alice! Glad you are feeling better, Justin! *Someone* needs a firm grasp on this bag of squirrels called, "Well, There's Your Problem".
    If the DJ is taking requests today, I would love to see a future episode on the 1961 SL-1 reactor meltdown at the NRTS facility near Idaho Falls. It has everything...a reactor re-start! a failing marriage! a DICK boss! a stuck control rod! a power excursion! a water-hammer! a flying shield plug! Featuring: testicular rearrangement! hacksaws and lead shields! a suicide/murder, hmm? Starring hundreds and hundreds of röntgens of 'spicy-rock' rays per hour!
    I can see so many ways for this one to go right off the fucking rails... And, I'll just say it for you, Liam... "Goddamnit, Alice!!"

    • @Bakamoichigei
      @Bakamoichigei Рік тому +7

      Christ, SL-1... I will never get over how they couldn't find the other guy at first, until they _looked up_ and found him _impaled to the ceiling_ like it was a fuckin' horror movie! Nuclear accidents are already pretty bad, but that shit is _next-level._

    • @fauxpinkytoo
      @fauxpinkytoo Рік тому +2

      @@Bakamoichigei I kind of quit a job that way, except I was a corporate copy writer, and I got my Copy Chief fired on my way out, lol. Take 'em with you when you can. Good times...

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Рік тому +4

      I give this suggestion a glowing second.

  • @thomasgiles2876
    @thomasgiles2876 Рік тому +24

    We all need to support Roz while he recovers from vacationing with his family.

  • @herlescraft
    @herlescraft Рік тому +45

    hell yeah, italian here ready for WTIYP unbiased take on italy :P

    • @propellhatt
      @propellhatt Рік тому +5

      Honestly surprised a bridge fell down. You guys drive your fiat 500s/pandas the speed of sound, so it shouldn't be stressing the bridges much :p

  • @memetechanarchy5381
    @memetechanarchy5381 Рік тому +12

    damnnnnnn cliffhanger of the century right before the patreon ad, you can't just tease an electrochemistry anecdote like that

  • @TalkingSoup
    @TalkingSoup Рік тому +43

    hey jerks, don't worry so much about not getting content out in a timely fashion. this year has been absolute fucking hell on everyone everywhere. no one's gonna expect you to work miracles when the whole world is collapsing around our ears. i for one am just happy you're all healthy and i'm always more than happy to wait for an episode because they're worth the wait, even when they're mashed together in twenty minutes (good job on that btw).

    • @Feuerbluete
      @Feuerbluete Рік тому +2

      SOUP???? I know you dont really know me but man I love your fics (I'm FireflysWriting on AO3) The internet is too small.

    • @TalkingSoup
      @TalkingSoup Рік тому +1

      @@Feuerbluete omg thank you!!! Wow what a crazy way to meet haha

    • @Feuerbluete
      @Feuerbluete Рік тому +2

      @@TalkingSoup It's always weird when you notice people you know from some other thing somewhere else :D

    • @TalkingSoup
      @TalkingSoup Рік тому +2

      @@Feuerbluete inorite? but it's also so cool to find stuff in common. you wouldn't expect much crossover between the undertale fandom and wtypp enjoyers lmfao. i love it

    • @Feuerbluete
      @Feuerbluete Рік тому +1

      @@TalkingSoup Yeah it's amazing :D

  • @stiltpuppy
    @stiltpuppy Рік тому +13

    Cool thing about using uncoated steel is that it creates its own inspection ports

  • @cwhich
    @cwhich Рік тому +34

    New WTYP day is always my favourite day

  • @pamdemonia
    @pamdemonia Рік тому +21

    Justin's voice is back!
    Also: one of my earliest memories is of going to that Wanamaker's. I must've been barely more than 3 years old and was dazzled by the central escalator, which is probably why I still have that memory a half-cwntury (f*** I'm old) later. The story of the disappeared rebar is amazing!

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins Рік тому +9

    I find the saddest part about thiswas it only took like a couple of years to replace this thing after spending 50 years messing with it

  • @mudsh4rk
    @mudsh4rk Рік тому +7

    I'd love to hear an episode about the Italian postal system. I've had so many weird experiences with it and heard so many anecdotes passed down from my ex's Italian relatives (my favorite is that one of the regions allegedly had so much backed up mail at some point in the mid 20th century that they dumped about 40,000 undelivered pieces of mail into a river so theycould start fresh).

  • @comradeinternet467
    @comradeinternet467 Рік тому +36

    Glad Justin is feeling better, hoping you lot eventually do a crossover with the retro computer sphere of UA-cam because of some of the bullshit that happened in the 8-bit and 16-bit era of computing. Also, the Commodore 64 can probably be justifiably called the AK-47 of computers, given how many of them exist and how hard it is to fuck them up.

    • @MrJohndoakes
      @MrJohndoakes Рік тому +2

      I thought the Apple II was the AK computer because so many were bought by schools.

    • @trashrabbit69
      @trashrabbit69 Рік тому +5

      @@MrJohndoakes The Apple II would be more the M16/M4 of computers. It's similarly ubiquitous, slightly less durable, but most importantly: forever fucked by patent fiends and insane corporatism

    • @notnullnotvoid
      @notnullnotvoid Рік тому +2

      There are so many incredible disasters in computing. An episode in Unicode (yes, the whole thing, it's one big ongoing disaster) would be great.

  • @ajbianchi85
    @ajbianchi85 Рік тому +51

    Glad everyone is ok, been missing yous guys

  • @hamborger2200
    @hamborger2200 Рік тому +33

    How DARE YOU depriving us from Justin trying to pronounce all those lovely italian names!?

  • @whatsoperadoc7050
    @whatsoperadoc7050 Рік тому +45

    You guys should invite LazerPig on. He said in his latest video he loves the podcast and would love to be a guest.

    • @tomhsia4354
      @tomhsia4354 Рік тому +6

      Bonus episode: Colonel James Burton and the f35
      Bonus episode: Military Reformers and not horses revisited

    • @thegenericguy8309
      @thegenericguy8309 Рік тому +2

      lazerpig kinda sucks, his video on the T-34 in particular was apocalyptically bad. he really likes beginning research after deciding what his conclusion's going to be. he also somehow manages to get smugger the wronger he is.

  • @bf1701
    @bf1701 Рік тому +4

    Oh, this bridge is like platforming in Doom: Just run fast enough, and you'll clear the gap, even without a jump button.

  • @global-sequence
    @global-sequence Рік тому +3

    "but you see, if there's a small hole in the plastic"
    [almost inaudibly] "heh"

  • @ellenbryn
    @ellenbryn Рік тому +4

    Y'all keep this Pennsylvania expat in southern California grounded- nice planet, but it sure ain't the one where grew up. Roz sounds like half the guys I went to school with in Chester County. You make me laugh, when I'm not wincing about the rise of monsters and the US and UK taking turns self-destructing. Last time I was in Edinburgh, they'd just voted to stay part of the UK, poor dears... little did they know.
    Annnyway. I've been waiting for y'all to get to this one. Congrats on pulling it together in 20 minutes. I never fail to be amused and horrified by your ability to mix engineering and gallows humor with a side helping of history and crass cultural commentary. And there is a certain amount of schadenfreude in the stories you pick, which usually feature self-proclaimed experts with egg on their faces.
    I have a suggestion for a future disaster which is comical and non-fatal and a terrible GLORIOUS mess, featuring a side helping of clever and stupid engineering, bureacratic incompetence, and a teeny tiny secret and slightly illegal railroad under downtown Chicago that everyone forgot about until the river was accidentally diverted into it: the Chicago Loop Flood of 1992.

  • @Intaminator
    @Intaminator Рік тому +28

    Ah, I was hoping you'd talk about this one eventually. Have you ever considered making an episode on the BER Airport in Berlin and the endless shitshow that was it's construction and planning? Appearently a whistleblower even got poisoned lmao

  • @Nyst2
    @Nyst2 Рік тому +4

    If you knew a third guy called Moz you could have been the trio of Roz Kos Mos.

  • @Smokescale
    @Smokescale Рік тому +12

    Another interesting episode, as always, very much enjoyed... but there's a matter that I am compelled to ...gently... (eyetwitch) educate you on.
    "The Princess Diaries" is a fine movie... it's fine... I can't in good conscience bash it. It has Julie Andrews in it and she's lovely, her performance is lovely. It's got a few genuinely funny moments in it. However, it is decidedly the product of a cinematic industrial complex that pumps out inoffensive content aimed at young teen and pre-teen girls and boy does it absolutely wear that on its sleeves.
    "The Princess Bride" is a film from 1987, relatively low budget, but has a startlingly star-studded cast who are all playing an admittedly silly movie as earnestly as possible. It is fantastic. It is a beautiful mix of fantasy, comedy, romance, and drama. Mandy Patinkin as Inigo Montoya is an absolute delight and he has the absolute most satisfying conclusion of his story and character arc. The film is INFINITELY quotable. The whole thing is just charming, low-stakes, and just a sort of gentle-action adventure film that just about anyone can enjoy.
    The two are ABSOLUTELY NOT THE SAME. I demand a retraction and an apology to the estate of Andre the Giant, as well as a shout out in the next episode calling me all manner of absurd names for my ludicrous nit-picking (I look forward to the insults Liam devises).
    Anyway, love the show. Can't wait for the next one, still working my way through the backlog. When playing WTYP Bingo with my cousin, unfortunately, I failed to get five in a row. C'mon, step it up folks.

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 Рік тому +1

      Wait wait wait. Hang on a second.
      Smokescale Aquatos? _The_ Smokescale Aquatos? You're still around? You listen to my favorite podcast too?

    • @ClaudiaNW
      @ClaudiaNW Рік тому +2

      Genovia, the land I call my own
      From her green clear forests, her blossoming pear trees
      Magnificent her mountains and seas

    • @Smokescale
      @Smokescale Рік тому +2

      @@alaeriia01 Well, I dunno about "THE" Smokescale Aquatos, but I'm the only one I know of! And yup, still around! Kept tragically alive by my meager ability to play the game of Capitalism!

  • @ewhays
    @ewhays Рік тому +10

    I'm getting a double dose of this bridge this week, WTYP today, Plainly Difficult tomorrow. All my favorite engineering fuck-up documentaries are syncing up.

  • @jamespocelinko104
    @jamespocelinko104 Рік тому +3

    "And for my next trick, I'm going to make the steel in this bridge... disappear!"

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins Рік тому +4

    I see a reoccuring theme with concrete clad cables and fake cable stay bridges. Maybe steel cables should be steel cables and concrete pillars should be concrete pillars

  • @moonbeast1312
    @moonbeast1312 Рік тому +4

    As usual, Liam is right and no one appreciates him. Also THANK YOU for the concrete education. Not enough people appreciate the chemical and physical properties of concrete solely because they don't like the way it looks.

  • @eleSDSU
    @eleSDSU Рік тому +5

    Happy to hear Justin feeling better, much love Alice and as always a loud, actionable and heartfelt Yay Liam! That bridge just needed some reinforced pesto, they failed at being Genovese.

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 Рік тому +7

    Surprised nobody mentioned that Benetton had an F1 team in the 80’s-90’s, famous for being the team that Michael Schumacher won his first WDC with

  • @Cleanmybass
    @Cleanmybass Рік тому +2

    Lived in an "old farm house" built in the 1890s that just kept getting added onto. My condo on the first floor had 12 foot high ceilings and molding that was nearly a foot wide around doors and windows. All the other units not on the main floor? 8 foot high ceilings and minimal molding.
    BUT TO THE POINT. We had two water meters in the basement. One for water coming into the building AND one for leaving our building. At some point the lot was split, another building was built and instead of that structure getting it's own water line, it piggyback off of ours.
    And positive lead paint was all over the god damn place.

  • @alan_pv
    @alan_pv Рік тому +13

    I want an episode about GTIs so Liam can talk about GTIs lol

    • @richardtickler8555
      @richardtickler8555 Рік тому +2

      VW could be a good bonys episode. (I just assume its a golf gti based on the power numbers he quotes)

    • @yam83
      @yam83 Рік тому

      Wolfsburg episode coming soon.

  • @herlescraft
    @herlescraft Рік тому +10

    39:47 I'd like to state how induction moka pot are a thing and I'm using it right now to acceptable levels

  • @rossamundbrennan7248
    @rossamundbrennan7248 Рік тому +3

    "Concrete's only gonna give you grief" is such a powerful phrase.

  • @22015slee
    @22015slee Рік тому +8

    aww i miss jordan rocz peterzszón already

  • @christopherbruderle684
    @christopherbruderle684 Рік тому +4

    "Speak for yourself, I'm building this sort of block staircase up" so THAT'S where all the languages come from.

  • @Vesta_the_Lesser
    @Vesta_the_Lesser Рік тому +8

    Liam’s psychologist recommending Abby and then at being all “ooh what she like” gave me massive cringe. I say this because my psychiatrist tried to fearmonger me about marijuana, she knew that I was using medical marijuana and she tried to scare me and tell me that it was going to give me schizophrenia but I looked at the document she gave me and according to it the information she was cherry picking didn’t apply to me.

  • @botbtquarrel4072
    @botbtquarrel4072 Рік тому +6

    Y'all joke in the Safety Third about a terrible apartment conversion resulting in literally shitting where you eat but that actually happened in South Australia, someone converted a living room into a "studio apartment" by putting a frosted glass Magneto prison cube with a toilet and shower in the middle of the place

  • @mattkrier5856
    @mattkrier5856 Рік тому +7

    Roz: "Storing large quantities of flamable chemicals on your property is not very responsible"
    Me: Thinkin bout that biodiesel

  • @FoxMacLeod2501
    @FoxMacLeod2501 Рік тому +1

    "What if you made it impossible to replace the steel? That way, no one could get mad at me!" - answering the questions around 37:20 or so, when our heroes were discussing engineering failures surrounding the problem of steel oxidation in composite steel/concrete constructions, when the steel is embedded or encased within the concrete...
    OMG, LOL, and a chefs' kiss!

  • @michaeru1
    @michaeru1 Рік тому +6

    I'm gonna be annoying and point out that Italy did not need to join the European Union as it was a founding member of its predecessor(s) going all the way back to the 50s. What Italy might have wanted to try and join in the 90s is the Economic and Monetary Union, the institutional framework best symbolized by the Euro. The rules Alice has in mind here are the "convergence criteria" which boil down to: Low inflation, low budget deficit, low debt/GDP ratio, stable currency exchange rates and low government borrowing costs.

  • @XTremeCaffeine
    @XTremeCaffeine Рік тому +4

    This was a really cool and well-researched episode, it must have taken at least 3 times as long to write as it did to record!

  • @mattkomar7622
    @mattkomar7622 Рік тому +4

    Liam, the invisible bridge was in the Last Crusade, not Raiders of the Lost Ark.

  • @CommodoreFluffy
    @CommodoreFluffy Рік тому +9

    have you considered that concrete sheathed cable stays are easy to model as a 3d mesh and look dope in ace combat superweapon/space ramp/memorials to war and or peace?

  • @CypressPunk34
    @CypressPunk34 Рік тому +2

    thanks for mentioning the eastern kentucky flooding. i live right in the middle of what got hit and im lucky to have a house right now. Youre absolutely right that more than anything we need volunteers to help clear debris and search for missing people because its been a week and we are still finding bodies in the rubble of buildings.

  • @alissonsilva3443
    @alissonsilva3443 Рік тому +3

    Waiting eargerly for the popularization of Five-over-bridges.

  • @Nathan-vd1qp
    @Nathan-vd1qp Рік тому +1

    Man, the ad placement in this episode is straight up diabolical. Great work, gang

  • @rubenthiel1214
    @rubenthiel1214 Рік тому +6

    I found this episode like 8.5h after seeing and riding over the first Morandi bridge of my life (the same one on the road to Fumicino that Justin talked about). Nice coincidence

  • @scifience8297
    @scifience8297 Рік тому +8

    y´all should bring on Alan Fisher as a guest some time

  • @emojisarepurecancer8097
    @emojisarepurecancer8097 Рік тому +2

    Damn, you guys got me remembering Richard Scarry children books lol

  • @redoktopus3047
    @redoktopus3047 Рік тому +14

    i have always hated concrete and this episode gives me multiple other reasons to hate it.
    thank you

  • @ZachComa
    @ZachComa Рік тому +2

    Plainly Difficult released a video on this bridge a day after this one was released. He'd be a great guest to have on. Also, yay Liam!

  • @boydsinclair4166
    @boydsinclair4166 Рік тому +3

    Don’t worry, that’ll buff out

  • @BearDrivingACar
    @BearDrivingACar Рік тому +2

    As a current Drexel student, they were in fact rebuilding the green wall all last school year

  • @GarethDennisTV
    @GarethDennisTV Рік тому +1

    26:40 - just in case anyone didn't know, this is how all modern concrete railway sleepers/ties are made
    you're welcome

  • @TheFireHawkDelta
    @TheFireHawkDelta Рік тому +1

    A bridge failing because of a stupid design decision is such peak WTYP, every episode of its type is a banger

  • @05Matz
    @05Matz Рік тому +2

    I like the word "re-enfuckulate" that you've just added to my vocabulary.

  • @johannageisel5390
    @johannageisel5390 Рік тому +3

    The Kentucky flooding looks a lot like the Ahrtal flooding last year in Germany.

  • @yakovgolyadkin
    @yakovgolyadkin Рік тому +3

    21:30 "There's one of them in Venezuela."
    I KNEW IT LOOKED FAMILIAR! I blew that bridge up so damn many times in Mercenaries 2.

    • @yam83
      @yam83 Рік тому +1

      The Maracaibo bridge is a goddamn Merandi??!

  • @25usd94
    @25usd94 Рік тому +1

    I’m living in an apartment very similar to the safety third here. Right down to the flooding dishwasher on the 3rd floor. I feel their pain

  • @smatthewson2613
    @smatthewson2613 Рік тому +3

    Thank you all for this, much appreciated.

  • @obsidianhornet6643
    @obsidianhornet6643 Рік тому +2

    Hearing Liam say 'Well I guess I'll go f*** myself then.' fills me with warmth. Like coming home.

  • @adamwhite2364
    @adamwhite2364 Рік тому +2

    Oh man. I can't believe shark bite is still a thing. I tried one for a refrigerator water line and it never sealed no matter how many suggestions I tried. I was eventually able to find the right clamp style brass fitting that no home improvement store or hardware store seemed to want to sell me (they all had them, but the staff for some reason at each one wanted to push the shark bites) and now it's fine. I was seriously irate though, and if I hadn't clamped a shutoff in there so I could turn the water back on to the house, I'd have been seriously pissed

  • @Eeroke
    @Eeroke Рік тому +1

    About italian engineering: the worst machine in our shop says "Inizializzazione..." when it boots. It does that a lot.

  • @SadBrello
    @SadBrello 5 місяців тому

    i've lived in genoa my whole life and my dad literrally worked besides the buildings that were crushed by the bridge. I remember when i used to go with my dad to his office (i was like 5/6 yrs old) that bridge was literally in front of us you could see it from the window very clearly. then they moved where the ikea was (if you look at footage after the collapse it's like 200 mts from the bridge.) When it collapsed i wasn't in genoa i was in piacenza and i CLEARLY remember the chock, passing with the train towards Sampierdarena you'd see the brooklyn bridge (as we genoese loved to call that bridge) and now you'd see only a big hole between pile 10 and pile 8. it was incredible, Genoa never fully recovered from this, and a lot of his people too.
    Never forgetting the 43 people who lost their life and to the 530 people that lost their house because they needed to be demolished due to the bridge pilons literally resting against the building roofs.

  • @hartwheeler4591
    @hartwheeler4591 Рік тому +2

    An interesting thing about PEX is that it is plastic and easily clamped by something like a vice grip pliers or even just folded over on itself to stop most of the water flow..

  • @jbran7817
    @jbran7817 Рік тому +2

    Moka pot advice: boil the water in a kettle first and you get coffee way faster even on an electric stove

  • @Ratcher.
    @Ratcher. Рік тому +2

    after experiencing 16 feet in 12 hours during ida water gives me real ptsd and i will never live near water again

  • @contentvulture8682
    @contentvulture8682 Рік тому +2

    I hate that I’m terminally online enough to immediately get what “Energymaxing” means…

  • @de-fault_de-fault
    @de-fault_de-fault Рік тому +4

    Was counting down to the Plainly Difficult about this that's coming out tomorrow, and then this hit my feed. I'm going to be so sick of this bridge... like, not as sick of it as if it collapsed on me, , but...yeah.

  • @piccalillipit9211
    @piccalillipit9211 4 місяці тому +1

    *ELEGANT ITALIAN DESIGN HAS NEVER HAD PROBLEMS* no truer word has ever been spoken - just ask every Alfa Romeo owner...

  • @lukeman9851
    @lukeman9851 Рік тому

    From the thumbnail I legit thought that was a radio telescope like Arecibo. Finding out we're looking at and talking about a bridge fills me with horror and curiosity

  • @HewleyxAngel
    @HewleyxAngel Рік тому +7

    I’m glad you all are back and feeling okay. As to why I do this to myself, it’s because my job is long and lonely and the parasocial calm of listening to horrific things happening but with jokes and communism and anarchism makes me feel better. Especially since the last couple of days have been absolute trash.
    Also Justin when can we expect you on 10k Losses?

  • @kateshaw7569
    @kateshaw7569 Рік тому +1

    I just want to say I appreciate Alice's T. S. Elliot reference

  • @kevinrussell3501
    @kevinrussell3501 Рік тому +2

    Maybe they will blame the new Beavis and Butthead movie for the guy who committed arson. Take us right back to the 90s