Out of all my planes this is the only one that still gives me a bit of anxiety when I fly it. It is a fun anxiety and happy to see I am not the only one having fun with this plane.
You seemed to have a lot more fun with the XK- X450. The Mini Convergence appears to be a bit of a handful. Kudos to the camera crew, you're lucky to have such a good one.
Love my V22 Osprey, and i have the larger Convergence with FPV. The V22 is just really cool, challenging in a fun way. The large Convergence is a head turner at the field, and enjoy flying it in all modes.
I want to get the V22 Osprey, but don't know if it will be around much longer. Seems they get mixed reviews, as they aren't the easiest planes to fly, but everyone thinks they'll be just like a quad...
Hello Brian and Mrs Megan aka camera crew. As always well done. Cool vtol looked at that plane thought it would be a good plane but haven't gotten it yet. Back to the a10 if i didn't have some altitude when i got to slow it would have been bad. But learned to keep the power on. My first edf was a turbo jet because i watched your videos and just had to have it. I have it still but with stronger edfs bigger esc's still flys very well. Thank you for your video keep flying you guys. Just having fun RC'n with friends and family members. Again as always well done.
I think Real Flight 9 does a great job of simulation, but I've learned that Simulation doesn't account for weird, unexpected things well, like bugs landing on your shoulder while landing, or gusty wind, or failures, BUT it's a cheaper way to crash ;)
You are right about the Experience level to fly it. I have been in the hobby for around 6 Years and trying to flight this on a 10 mph wind it’s not easiest thing to do. The tri mode it’s very bad responding on flighting backwards to bring it back to you. And you will need a big place to fly this, it’s definitely not for an small place to fly as plane, as tricopter it’s not bad on an inclosed area.
Thanks Brian, your video was very helpful in me setting up the Mini Convergence I was given. The step by step transmitter set up was especially useful. You gave me the confidence to twice transition, albeit briefly, to aircraft mode on the first battery. I will have lots of fun with this. Again thanks and regards from Switzerland.
This reminds me of my Eflite V-22 Osprey. These types of aircraft are very tricky to fly. There’s probably a reason both of them were on clearance, although good first attempts VTOLs.
I enjoy all your video's Brian. Be they about your planes, Home or tractor... Much recpect to " Camera Crew " .... She does a fantastic job filming ( and putting up ) with you... Take care...
Nice thorough and balanced review, Brian. Thanks for sharing. I just ordered one of these. Still looking for a video that really shows how it flies in agility/acro + multirotor mode, and what's possible with transition in either direction when staying in acro mode with flight mode and stability on separate switches. Most videos seem to be with the 3-position switch setup that automatically goes into stability when not airplane mode. I fly roughly equal amounts fixed wing, quads and CP helis, and never fly rotors in stability mode. In addition to greatly increased speed and maneuverability, the advantage of agility/acro mode is that you don't have to worry about drifting due to trim or wind. Once you have it in a stationary hover, it will pretty much hold that position. It might not be 100% hand-off stable, but you'll never have a continuous drift in one direction that you have to counter with constant stick input. Related to this, I'd be interested to see how transition back to multirotor mode works if you put it in a steep climb first so you don't need 200-feet of lateral space to transition. Or is it not recommended to transition from non-level flight?
I don't know if you can switch them without switching both simultaneously. If you can, I'm not aware of it. Keep in mind, the Rx does all the mixing and flight controls, we're only calling out the controls to direct modes. I'm concerned about killing the motor mounts, but I suppose there's more than likely a way to split them off, fairly easily. When you get it, you'll understand, but this VTOL never really flies hands off...it's always wanting to drift here or there, but it does fly okay when you tell it what to do, but loitering is definitely not one of it's strong suits.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Appreciate the reply, Brian. I've enjoyed a bunch of your videos over the last year, and learned some things. Everything I've read suggests that the quick start guide has you program three modes on one switch, leaving out multirotor + acro, while the manual offers an alternate setup to separate flight and stability modes, giving you all four combos. I've been playing with the Realflight model, which does that. Some interesting stuff is possible in virtual reality. I found some behaviors that I'm pretty sure are a significant departure from reality, but it's been good for learning what *not* to do. ;^) Looking forward to checking out the real thing soon. Keep up the good work!
For sure! Seems that some of these flight controller based settings are quite picky within the Horizon Hobby lineup, so just err on the side of caution...maybe you could pull props and try it sitting on ta small box, or something like that (so the motor mounts wont hit)?
Hey Brian. Did you know with the DX6 and above, if you press the back and clear button at the same time, you can access the saved model menu. It has to be done from the main screen. It's a nice short cut I use all the time
Should I buy a used one at the LHS for $160 ? .... I guess it must be the bigger one at that price. The HH video made it look cool and easy. If Brian (lands big/fast jets on his curvy/narrow drive way) Phillips says its hard to fly - and commenters talk a lot about broken parts then I am guessing I should pass on this on ???? - unless they are willing to take $99 or less ??? I have a lot of experience flying but never flown a VTOL.
You might be a bit disappointed. It's one of the hardest to fly VTOL's we've ever had. Better choice by 10 miles - VTOL amzn.to/3gdEuIY | bit.ly/2TTq4Qn Either would kill this choice in a heartbeat. It's one of the very, VERY few times the China version is BETTER than the Horizon Hobby offering.
I was hoping that would be easier to fly so as a beginner I could fly it from my front yard without a runway. Oh well maybe the next VTOL will be the one. As usual your video is just great. Thanks for doing them.
Jack, I share your sentiment, and I was hoping to give a glowing review of how easy it was to fly, and how it could fly in such tight spaces, and how perfect it would be for a beginner, but then when I took off in the kitchen, I was like...um, nope - too bad, but still a fun plane. I'll review other VTOL's and see if there's a better "beginner" choice. I have reviewed the XK450 with better success in the "beginner" category, but I really wanted one that I could fly on DSMX.
yea just read this i rate the xk450. only thingt lets em down is the servos that dont take any sort of heavy landing, however the replacement parts are cheap . so my advice is order a few spares. there easy to replace
Great and HONEST review... not EVERYTHING that horizon or any other company puts out is just "great"... too many reviews say just greatest and cheapest and coolest and must have and that is far from the truth for many of these models, particulary the small models...
yeah. I'm glad you could see that. I don't mean to bash Horizon Hobby at all...they're a great company, and they make some of the best stuff, but this was just more or less a "miss" if you get right down too it. More expensive AND inferior to the JJRC MO2 or XK 450 in almost every measurable factor, EXCEPT 1) DSMX compatible out of box 2) This one flies like a plane slightly better. That being said, I'd rather not dwell on this item, as "is what it is". It was kinda fun to decorate it with he stickers - LOL!!!
We were dragging two ~ 8 foot wide pieces of expanded steel "catwalk" upside down with logs on them to smooth out the grade. We hope to have grass in soon!!!
I don't think you're making a bad decision. The XK450 is great, and cheap too...BUT if you want to fly it on Spektrum, you won't be able to do it :(...
first video of yours I watched. Bought this for my kid. Setup is a $&@?! Dx6e. Some steps clear as day, others wtf. That’s why I searched out videos on setup. Great overall video, I’ll check out more of your stuff. My issue is that I cannot see the remote screen as you perform setup. You need a corner insert video of just the screen. The DR settings: 70/100. I could not figure out as DR and Expo are 1setting in my controller I couldn’t figure out how to separate. Watching this video seeing you flip switches I was thinking that’d what I missed. So I tried it. Didn’t see any changes flipping my switches trying to set DR. I’m heading to my local hobby store pros tomorrow. I did learn from you and I appreciate you. Thank you! Looking forward to watching your other vid’s!
Thanks M W - sorry for the slow reply. We've been running like crazy around here - work and home life are crazy now...so I've been way behind on comments. As for the Radio Setup on this pane, it's basically weird...and no other way around it. Horizon Hobby is usually pretty good about explaining weird details, but since this VTOL depends on a flight controller, the controls are not very intuitive. Also, this VTOL is a real challenge to fly. If you don't find success, we have reviewed a few others that might end up in your hangar soon ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC the local hobby shop guys downloaded the program from the horizon website. That SD card feature really saved the day! What do you do with all your planes?! I want to see your “Hanger”! Give us a tour!
What episode did you do when you review all of the VTOL you have, and I want to see the winner of them I forgot which one it was and can't find it? because it looks like fun and I want a new R/C to play with,goodnight from Las Vegas NV
Just bought one of these from my local shop. I would have used your link but horizon no longer sells this. I am a truck driver and i am on the road for multiple weeks at a time i was looking for something small to take with that i could fly in many situations i hope this works well for me. So far this is the 3rd craft i have purchased because of your vids. Next is the ultimate 3d. My one question is there a way to trim it mechanically? I noticed it didn't seen stable in hover but other vids i have seen it was stable. Its been a while since this vid came out do you have any updates or new thoughts?
I think you can make some mechanical trims, but the flight controller will somewhat counteract them. If you struggle with this one, here's another one you might consider for future - MO2 VTOL amzn.to/2zwNvaV / bit.ly/2TTq4Qn (Better) X450 VTOL amzn.to/2GgLtLS / bit.ly/39XCOuj (Very slightly inferior) ...this VTOL is one of the very, VERY few times where Horizon Hobby released an offering I found to be inferior to the Chinese option.
Gday Brian stu here again. I just watched your video again on this vtol I really wish you would do a review on the xk 520. I would really like to know what you think of it. I have used it to teach myself how to fly. I think my machine our performs this one. The 520 also can do wheels up wheels down. I find myself flying and landing and taking off like a normal plain most of the time it's OK in short grass also. I would like your advise as to Wether or not I should buy another 520 and just keep learning or am I ready to step up to a carbon cub or similar(Draco) lol. I have to admit I'm loving flying.
I ordered the XK 520 but never got it!!! In fact, I might still have it on order! As for the next plane, so many great beginner plane choices...you can start with any of these, if you're into them... Description - Purchase - Videos Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/38Kilv1 - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5fYbIobNAtMUz2EoT7FGLl.html Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc.html Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/3bS2r3O - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM.html T-28 Trojan 1.1m bit.ly/3eOh9Lk - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc6-_gHuXM6a1Nf_2nRxrmlc.html Apprentice Mini RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS.html Sport Cub S2 UMX bit.ly/3cDYUW1 - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy.html Aeroscout 1.1m - bit.ly/30MNn1c - I haven't reviewed the 1.1m YET...but it's supposed to be REALLY GOOD Mini Aeroscout - bit.ly/30MNn1c - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4of8-fbzqe2FoV_mGWQP_u.html
Servos are weak. Tapped the ground lightly on my first flight (< one minute) due to higher than expected winds and damaged 3 servos. :( All servos are on backorder.
I would never get the stock servos...they are not metal gear...and I totally agree! Why not get some metal gear servos? They'd be SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better, and I bet you can find them without too much effort. Keep in mind they may not be the same size. These are my go-to servos, but they might be too big (9 gram size, but 13 gram due to metal gear) 5X Emax ES08MDII DIGITAL - amzn.to/2CqFIqC 4X Emax ES08MAII ANALOG - amzn.to/2EULmqg
ID ADVISE the ptk 7350 sevos for this plane from bangood. just my opinion . however the conection is different .but the color wires are the same. so just an easy soldering job required
Yea they quit making them I got the big one and it flew pretty good but it broke servo arms a couple times on some ruff landings. Also broke those turned down wing tips once. I was able to glue it back together but I wouldn’t buy this plane again.
yea brian i think this plane .Horizon Hobby - Mini Convergence VTOL has been taken off the market .as didnt come with with a controller and is identical to the xk 450 which does must be a nightmare for horizon, to compete with bangood prices lol. great videos as always . and honest analysist
This VTOL is most definitely NOT identical to the XK 450 or the JJRC MO2 (both are great, btw. This one was almost discontinued by the time I got mine ;(... If you want easy to fly, and don't mind a RTF with a non-DSMX transmitter, then those ones are great choices!!!
Brian Phillips I’m the XK A450 cost 120 dollars 💵 how come this mini convergence VTOL cost 200 dollars there the same size they do the same thing flips and loops like why
Hi Brian -When replacing the motor mount of the conscendo S with that of the advanced , is it a straight swap or there’s modding involved to make it fit ? -is there a need to replace the ESC or it’s ok to keep it ? Thanks
I can't say since I haven't replaced either. I CAN say that the Conscendo S had an issue with motor mounts melting when users were flying on a 3S...but the Conscendo Advanced was designed to take a 3S, so I'd get the Advanced part and make it work, whatever that takes.
@@BrianPhillipsRC for me acro mode the xk520 is alot more forgivable only difference doesnt hover like the xk450 . which to me flies identical to a drone . the xk 520 only has aileron servos and not servos to to transition from vtol to flight mode . less to break down and it FAST ! lol
I will use it until I have a better one, or when the plane doesn't support DSMX/DSM2. I also just got a DX9 the other day, but will probably use it for my son, or for another application, like my backup. I also have a DX5i and DX4, and the Jumper T8SG, and numerous RTF transmitters. The DX18 is my best one, so of course I'll use it :)
I've heard some have not been fans of it. This VTOL wasn't the easiest I've flow, but it's still fun. When they first came out, they were kinda crazy expensive too!!! At least they're way lower on price now.
First Hard Landing or Crash It Will Kill Gears In The Tilt Servos... LOL I HATE Dingle Berries Also, Owww... I Could Tell You A True Life Highschool Story On That Subject Sometime!? LMAO Thanks
Agreed, It's on clearance for a reason. I just wanted the XK450 with my DX18, and I got an inferior choice. It's fun to fly, but I wouldn't call it a money pit. If you never crash it won't cost anything ;) That being said, I also crashed and broke my XK450 on the maiden flight. I stole parts from another plane, and had it fixed in about an hour...but not everyone has 100 planes lying around in their basement.
Out of all my planes this is the only one that still gives me a bit of anxiety when I fly it. It is a fun anxiety and happy to see I am not the only one having fun with this plane.
Totally get it. Not my favorite, but it's flyable...just don't want to fly it by my FACE - LOL ;)
You seemed to have a lot more fun with the XK- X450. The Mini Convergence appears to be a bit of a handful. Kudos to the camera crew, you're lucky to have such a good one.
JJRC MO2 is my favorite. This is cool too, but it's not often that HH gets beat out by the Chinese.
Love my V22 Osprey, and i have the larger Convergence with FPV. The V22 is just really cool, challenging in a fun way. The large Convergence is a head turner at the field, and enjoy flying it in all modes.
I want to get the V22 Osprey, but don't know if it will be around much longer. Seems they get mixed reviews, as they aren't the easiest planes to fly, but everyone thinks they'll be just like a quad...
Hello Brian and Mrs Megan aka camera crew. As always well done. Cool vtol looked at that plane thought it would be a good plane but haven't gotten it yet. Back to the a10 if i didn't have some altitude when i got to slow it would have been bad. But learned to keep the power on. My first edf was a turbo jet because i watched your videos and just had to have it. I have it still but with stronger edfs bigger esc's still flys very well. Thank you for your video keep flying you guys. Just having fun RC'n with friends and family members. Again as always well done.
The A10 is superb. Wish I could always be so happy with my RC planes :)
Realflight 9 has the mini convergence, and it helps with the learning curve
I think Real Flight 9 does a great job of simulation, but I've learned that Simulation doesn't account for weird, unexpected things well, like bugs landing on your shoulder while landing, or gusty wind, or failures, BUT it's a cheaper way to crash ;)
You are right about the Experience level to fly it. I have been in the hobby for around 6 Years and trying to flight this on a 10 mph wind it’s not easiest thing to do. The tri mode it’s very bad responding on flighting backwards to bring it back to you. And you will need a big place to fly this, it’s definitely not for an small place to fly as plane, as tricopter it’s not bad on an inclosed area.
I agree. It's fun, but fun in a "I hope it doesn't hit my face" kinda way :)
Thanks Brian, your video was very helpful in me setting up the Mini Convergence I was given. The step by step transmitter set up was especially useful. You gave me the confidence to twice transition, albeit briefly, to aircraft mode on the first battery. I will have lots of fun with this. Again thanks and regards from Switzerland.
Glad it helped! And this plane IS fun, even though it's not my favorite VTOL. I've heard a lot of bashing of this little beauty, but I enjoy mine.
This reminds me of my Eflite V-22 Osprey. These types of aircraft are very tricky to fly. There’s probably a reason both of them were on clearance, although good first attempts VTOLs.
yeah, totally agree ;)
I enjoy all your video's Brian. Be they about your planes, Home or tractor... Much recpect to " Camera Crew " .... She does a fantastic job filming ( and putting up ) with you... Take care...
Thank you Marty! She does a good job of all of that!!!
I'm so lucky to have her in my life ;)
Nice thorough and balanced review, Brian. Thanks for sharing. I just ordered one of these. Still looking for a video that really shows how it flies in agility/acro + multirotor mode, and what's possible with transition in either direction when staying in acro mode with flight mode and stability on separate switches. Most videos seem to be with the 3-position switch setup that automatically goes into stability when not airplane mode. I fly roughly equal amounts fixed wing, quads and CP helis, and never fly rotors in stability mode. In addition to greatly increased speed and maneuverability, the advantage of agility/acro mode is that you don't have to worry about drifting due to trim or wind. Once you have it in a stationary hover, it will pretty much hold that position. It might not be 100% hand-off stable, but you'll never have a continuous drift in one direction that you have to counter with constant stick input. Related to this, I'd be interested to see how transition back to multirotor mode works if you put it in a steep climb first so you don't need 200-feet of lateral space to transition. Or is it not recommended to transition from non-level flight?
I don't know if you can switch them without switching both simultaneously. If you can, I'm not aware of it. Keep in mind, the Rx does all the mixing and flight controls, we're only calling out the controls to direct modes. I'm concerned about killing the motor mounts, but I suppose there's more than likely a way to split them off, fairly easily.
When you get it, you'll understand, but this VTOL never really flies hands off...it's always wanting to drift here or there, but it does fly okay when you tell it what to do, but loitering is definitely not one of it's strong suits.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Appreciate the reply, Brian. I've enjoyed a bunch of your videos over the last year, and learned some things. Everything I've read suggests that the quick start guide has you program three modes on one switch, leaving out multirotor + acro, while the manual offers an alternate setup to separate flight and stability modes, giving you all four combos. I've been playing with the Realflight model, which does that. Some interesting stuff is possible in virtual reality. I found some behaviors that I'm pretty sure are a significant departure from reality, but it's been good for learning what *not* to do. ;^) Looking forward to checking out the real thing soon. Keep up the good work!
For sure! Seems that some of these flight controller based settings are quite picky within the Horizon Hobby lineup, so just err on the side of caution...maybe you could pull props and try it sitting on ta small box, or something like that (so the motor mounts wont hit)?
Thanks for this video and esspecially about the radio setup. Awesome camera operator!
Hey Brian. Did you know with the DX6 and above, if you press the back and clear button at the same time, you can access the saved model menu. It has to be done from the main screen. It's a nice short cut I use all the time
Awesome! Never knew that, and going to try it NOW!!!
Okay, also, the RF stays ON!?!?! That's so weird, and awesome at the same time!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Yeah the transmitter should be on. It's a neat little short cut
Should I buy a used one at the LHS for $160 ? .... I guess it must be the bigger one at that price. The HH video made it look cool and easy. If Brian (lands big/fast jets on his curvy/narrow drive way) Phillips says its hard to fly - and commenters talk a lot about broken parts then I am guessing I should pass on this on ????
- unless they are willing to take $99 or less ???
I have a lot of experience flying but never flown a VTOL.
You might be a bit disappointed. It's one of the hardest to fly VTOL's we've ever had.
Better choice by 10 miles - VTOL amzn.to/3gdEuIY | bit.ly/2TTq4Qn
Either would kill this choice in a heartbeat. It's one of the very, VERY few times the China version is BETTER than the Horizon Hobby offering.
The full size convergence is definately better, but sadly its not available anymore.
I heard...I was a bit disappointed. I kinda thought this WAS that item :( Pilot error!!! LOL
Ever thought of testing the e-flight clipped wing cub? Looks gorgeous!
YES!!! It's on my short list. I hope I do very soon. It's beautiful. I think it would look so good against the leaves coming in all around!
I was hoping that would be easier to fly so as a beginner I could fly it from my front yard without a runway. Oh well maybe the next VTOL will be the one. As usual your video is just great. Thanks for doing them.
Jack, I share your sentiment, and I was hoping to give a glowing review of how easy it was to fly, and how it could fly in such tight spaces, and how perfect it would be for a beginner, but then when I took off in the kitchen, I was like...um, nope - too bad, but still a fun plane.
I'll review other VTOL's and see if there's a better "beginner" choice. I have reviewed the XK450 with better success in the "beginner" category, but I really wanted one that I could fly on DSMX.
yea just read this i rate the xk450. only thingt lets em down is the servos that dont take any sort of heavy landing, however the replacement parts are cheap . so my advice is order a few spares. there easy to replace
44:30.....🤣👍 good video guys bought mine two days ago won't be here till Wednesday
Brian, I can't figure out your comment. Did you time stamp it wrong, or did I miss something.
Please help me out :)
@@BrianPhillipsRC you came down and mow some grass you can hear the props cut the blades of grass that was all
I like the unboxing that’s just my favorite thing my friend
I'm glad you do. So many viewers want to skip past that portion of the video.
Great and HONEST review... not EVERYTHING that horizon or any other company puts out is just "great"... too many reviews say just greatest and cheapest and coolest and must have and that is far from the truth for many of these models, particulary the small models...
yeah. I'm glad you could see that. I don't mean to bash Horizon Hobby at all...they're a great company, and they make some of the best stuff, but this was just more or less a "miss" if you get right down too it. More expensive AND inferior to the JJRC MO2 or XK 450 in almost every measurable factor, EXCEPT 1) DSMX compatible out of box 2) This one flies like a plane slightly better. That being said, I'd rather not dwell on this item, as "is what it is". It was kinda fun to decorate it with he stickers - LOL!!!
would it be posible to use an sbus reciver with it ?
The tire tracks on you driveway looks like you have been doing donuts.
We were dragging two ~ 8 foot wide pieces of expanded steel "catwalk" upside down with logs on them to smooth out the grade. We hope to have grass in soon!!!
I have the XK X450 that I think you also show us . This time I will go with the x450 just my opinion take care
I don't think you're making a bad decision. The XK450 is great, and cheap too...BUT if you want to fly it on Spektrum, you won't be able to do it :(...
first video of yours I watched. Bought this for my kid. Setup is a $&@?! Dx6e. Some steps clear as day, others wtf. That’s why I searched out videos on setup. Great overall video, I’ll check out more of your stuff. My issue is that I cannot see the remote screen as you perform setup. You need a corner insert video of just the screen. The DR settings: 70/100. I could not figure out as DR and Expo are 1setting in my controller I couldn’t figure out how to separate. Watching this video seeing you flip switches I was thinking that’d what I missed. So I tried it. Didn’t see any changes flipping my switches trying to set DR. I’m heading to my local hobby store pros tomorrow. I did learn from you and I appreciate you. Thank you! Looking forward to watching your other vid’s!
Thanks M W - sorry for the slow reply. We've been running like crazy around here - work and home life are crazy now...so I've been way behind on comments.
As for the Radio Setup on this pane, it's basically weird...and no other way around it. Horizon Hobby is usually pretty good about explaining weird details, but since this VTOL depends on a flight controller, the controls are not very intuitive. Also, this VTOL is a real challenge to fly. If you don't find success, we have reviewed a few others that might end up in your hangar soon ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC the local hobby shop guys downloaded the program from the horizon website. That SD card feature really saved the day! What do you do with all your planes?! I want to see your “Hanger”! Give us a tour!
What episode did you do when you review all of the VTOL you have, and I want to see the winner of them I forgot which one it was and can't find it? because it looks like fun and I want a new R/C to play with,goodnight from Las Vegas NV
FYI, I just answered another of the same question ;)
Great job as always, thank you guys.
Our pleasure!
Can you do a video on the E-Flite V-22 Osprey? I really want to see how it compares.
I may be reviewing it, but not sure if I can get one yet. Keep your eye out, and I'll try to get one ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC They are very similar in how they fly. They might even use the same flight controller.
Sorry, the sutup of miniconvergence is the same of convergence 650 ?
Just bought one of these from my local shop. I would have used your link but horizon no longer sells this. I am a truck driver and i am on the road for multiple weeks at a time i was looking for something small to take with that i could fly in many situations i hope this works well for me. So far this is the 3rd craft i have purchased because of your vids. Next is the ultimate 3d. My one question is there a way to trim it mechanically? I noticed it didn't seen stable in hover but other vids i have seen it was stable. Its been a while since this vid came out do you have any updates or new thoughts?
I think you can make some mechanical trims, but the flight controller will somewhat counteract them.
If you struggle with this one, here's another one you might consider for future -
MO2 VTOL amzn.to/2zwNvaV / bit.ly/2TTq4Qn (Better)
X450 VTOL amzn.to/2GgLtLS / bit.ly/39XCOuj (Very slightly inferior)
...this VTOL is one of the very, VERY few times where Horizon Hobby released an offering I found to be inferior to the Chinese option.
Hi Brian thank you for another great review best wishes Chris
My pleasure!
Gday Brian stu here again. I just watched your video again on this vtol I really wish you would do a review on the xk 520. I would really like to know what you think of it. I have used it to teach myself how to fly. I think my machine our performs this one. The 520 also can do wheels up wheels down. I find myself flying and landing and taking off like a normal plain most of the time it's OK in short grass also. I would like your advise as to Wether or not I should buy another 520 and just keep learning or am I ready to step up to a carbon cub or similar(Draco) lol. I have to admit I'm loving flying.
I ordered the XK 520 but never got it!!! In fact, I might still have it on order!
As for the next plane, so many great beginner plane choices...you can start with any of these, if you're into them...
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Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/38Kilv1 - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5fYbIobNAtMUz2EoT7FGLl.html
Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc.html
Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/3bS2r3O - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM.html
T-28 Trojan 1.1m bit.ly/3eOh9Lk - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc6-_gHuXM6a1Nf_2nRxrmlc.html
Apprentice Mini RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS.html
Sport Cub S2 UMX bit.ly/3cDYUW1 - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy.html
Aeroscout 1.1m - bit.ly/30MNn1c - I haven't reviewed the 1.1m YET...but it's supposed to be REALLY GOOD
Mini Aeroscout - bit.ly/30MNn1c - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4of8-fbzqe2FoV_mGWQP_u.html
Servos are weak. Tapped the ground lightly on my first flight (< one minute) due to higher than expected winds and damaged 3 servos. :(
All servos are on backorder.
I would never get the stock servos...they are not metal gear...and I totally agree! Why not get some metal gear servos? They'd be SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better, and I bet you can find them without too much effort. Keep in mind they may not be the same size.
These are my go-to servos, but they might be too big (9 gram size, but 13 gram due to metal gear)
5X Emax ES08MDII DIGITAL - amzn.to/2CqFIqC
4X Emax ES08MAII ANALOG - amzn.to/2EULmqg
ID ADVISE the ptk 7350 sevos for this plane from bangood. just my opinion . however the conection is different .but the color wires are the same. so just an easy soldering job required
Yea they quit making them I got the big one and it flew pretty good but it broke servo arms a couple times on some ruff landings. Also broke those turned down wing tips once. I was able to glue it back together but I wouldn’t buy this plane again.
nice!
yea brian i think this plane .Horizon Hobby - Mini Convergence VTOL has been taken off the market .as didnt come with with a controller and is identical to the xk 450 which does must be a nightmare for horizon, to compete with bangood prices lol. great videos as always . and honest analysist
This VTOL is most definitely NOT identical to the XK 450 or the JJRC MO2 (both are great, btw. This one was almost discontinued by the time I got mine ;(... If you want easy to fly, and don't mind a RTF with a non-DSMX transmitter, then those ones are great choices!!!
Brian Phillips I’m the XK A450 cost 120 dollars 💵 how come this mini convergence VTOL cost 200 dollars there the same size they do the same thing flips and loops like why
I like the XK450 more.
Hi Brian
-When replacing the motor mount of the conscendo S with that of the advanced , is it a straight swap or there’s modding involved to make it fit ?
-is there a need to replace the ESC or it’s ok to keep it ?
Thanks
I can't say since I haven't replaced either. I CAN say that the Conscendo S had an issue with motor mounts melting when users were flying on a 3S...but the Conscendo Advanced was designed to take a 3S, so I'd get the Advanced part and make it work, whatever that takes.
Great video interesting plane looks like fun .👍
It is, just harder to fly that expected. In acro mode I wish there was more stabilization on the roll axis.
@@BrianPhillipsRC for me acro mode the xk520 is alot more forgivable only difference doesnt hover like the xk450 . which to me flies identical to a drone . the xk 520 only has aileron servos and not servos to to transition from vtol to flight mode . less to break down and it FAST ! lol
U always use the dx18 transmitter
I will use it until I have a better one, or when the plane doesn't support DSMX/DSM2. I also just got a DX9 the other day, but will probably use it for my son, or for another application, like my backup. I also have a DX5i and DX4, and the Jumper T8SG, and numerous RTF transmitters. The DX18 is my best one, so of course I'll use it :)
Well done guys.... after having the Xvert I am not a fan of these. Sold mine.
I've heard some have not been fans of it. This VTOL wasn't the easiest I've flow, but it's still fun. When they first came out, they were kinda crazy expensive too!!! At least they're way lower on price now.
I bought this a while ago on special. Haven't opened it yet.
Loving this video. Now I can copy what you are doing, lol.
Good Ted! I hope you're patient with it. It's a tough cookie, but it's fun. Good luck!
Good model bro
It's a fun one, but takes some practice.
goodjob!
Thanks ;)
That plane looks like the stealth bomber
it kinda does ;)
you need to get a lav mic.; see Rode Wireless GO. All your content is excellent
We're looking at doing that soon.
First Hard Landing or Crash It Will Kill Gears In The Tilt Servos... LOL I HATE Dingle Berries Also, Owww... I Could Tell You A True Life Highschool Story On That Subject Sometime!? LMAO Thanks
? 3D, Power Gliders? Butt I Own Over 200 Planes, Drones & Quads+ From 12" To 4M Wingspans! Soo It's Hard To Decide Favorites... LOL
Alright Grumpy - What's the 4M one?!?!? Why have you been hiding that "in the closet"?!??!
wish they would make it with GPS
There's so many drones with GPS...
@@BrianPhillipsRC ya but not like this one
Oh wait never mind my bad
yeah
I thought it don’t fly like an helicopter
yeah, it does hover and forward flight, but doesn't go straight up like the XK450
This plane is a money pit !!! Servos break for no reason. Thats why it's on sale, they are getting rid of it. I hear the larger model works well.
Agreed, It's on clearance for a reason. I just wanted the XK450 with my DX18, and I got an inferior choice. It's fun to fly, but I wouldn't call it a money pit. If you never crash it won't cost anything ;) That being said, I also crashed and broke my XK450 on the maiden flight. I stole parts from another plane, and had it fixed in about an hour...but not everyone has 100 planes lying around in their basement.
@@BrianPhillipsRC hahahahaha! yea i saw you shred the servos on that in the snow ! but i didnt see you transition to normal flight mode . ?
Motore
No thanks. LOL
not for everyone, for sure ;)