Your suggestions are cute but would probably double or triple the cost of the lantern, add to its complexity and lower its reliability. I think the current design which had a LOT of input from the BLF community has hit the sweet spot between functionality and cost.
@@christopherdenny595 I have seen hundreds of positive reviewde of the LT1, ( I am the designer who worked with a team, and work with feedback from the BLF members) This hs to be the worst review/hate rant of the LT1 lantern i ever seen. His points, are pointless, Bluetooth would had to cost to much, (we already explored that idea) (more thant double to triple the cost) to have the AP developed.) I was sent here by other reviewers and flashlight & lantern enthusiasts who call this review appaling & just a rant, & more of a hate rant against a lantern that was developed for people who need a great lantern. We know not everyobody can't be happy with everything, though at least i know the LT1 made nearly a million other very happy. I didn't spend hundreds of hours for free designing & developing a lantern that does what a lantern is ment to do, is offer a great portable light/lantern that has a great color rendering, great modes & features, high-quality build, a long run time on high-modes, and the ablity to recharge from a 10-watt portable solar panel to make it a true self-sustaiable light that can light the night as much as a 40 watt in bulb can every night. Cost was a factor. This guy who "ranted" on the LT1 has a narrow-mind of thought.
I think you're kind of missing the point of this lantern. It's not designed for your mom or grandma. This light was designed by flaslight nerds for flaslight nerds. If you want a simple lantern, there are many on the market that fill that role.
@@Lot_2023 not necessarily, one of the most important thing for flashlight nerds is reliability, adding Bluetooth would introduce another point of failure. This light basically checks almost all of the boxes for me, a flashlight nerd and member of the BLF community.
I have seen hundreds of positive reviewde of the LT1, ( I am the designer who worked with a team, and work with feedback from the BLF members) This hs to be the worst review/hate rant of the LT1 lantern i ever seen. His points, are pointless, Bluetooth would had to cost to much, (we already explored that idea) (more thant double to triple the cost) to have the AP developed.) I was sent here by other reviewers and flashlight & lantern enthusiasts who call this review appaling & just a rant, & more of a hate rant against a lantern that was developed for people who need a great lantern. We know not everyobody can't be happy with everything, though at least i know the LT1 made nearly a million other very happy. I didn't spend hundreds of hours for free designing & developing a lantern that does what a lantern is ment to do, is offer a great portable light/lantern that has a great color rendering, great modes & features, high-quality build, a long run time on high-modes, and the ablity to recharge from a 10-watt portable solar panel to make it a true self-sustaiable light that can light the night as much as a 40 watt in bulb can every night.
Personally I think it’s a superb lantern and a brilliant collaboration of BLF members such as DBSAR and Toykeeper, and the manufacturing skills of Sofirn. The modes I use most are easily remembered. Wanting Bluetooth control, timers, proximity alarms and calling the lantern a dead end is ridiculous. I mean, the lantern you used as a comparison runs on D-cells and has a AAA torch that fits in the top. The LT1 is way ahead of that. Who needs their phone to operate a lantern? Some people are never satisfied. Who needs the Anduril map to switch a lantern on and off? 3 clicks to voltage check, sleep mode etc, 3 clicks and hold for candle, lightning, strobes. 4 clicks to lockout. Yeah, I so want to dig out my phone to do that. Jeez, just get on with camping and not having to rely on a smartphone to live. Top job BLF people, best electric lantern ever. Apologies, I won’t be subscribing.
The UI is pretty simple to be honest, but I have a Sofirn FW3A and Emisar flashlights that both use Anduril. What I find annoying is that the limitation of the UI lies with you, not with the design, yet you’ve called the lantern a dead end because you can’t work it properly. I mean Zebralight came along with a useful, but often annoying UI for all their lights, and users either learned it or chose something that suited them better. You’re saying that a lantern that runs on 1-4 18650 batteries, has a very clever and complex UI, the lantern you compared to a D-cell lantern isn’t good enough for two reasons. You cannot remember simple things, and you like to operate everything via your phone? The problem is at your end, not with the lantern. I mean it’s only one click for on and to up the output, 2 to lower output, 3 to change warm-cool, 3 to go into blinking, 3 to go into battery check, candle, 4 for lockout. That’s a whole load of stuff and you only need to be able to count to four to do it.
@@Supernice65 Calling this UI simple is a bit of a stretch. If you leave this lantern on the shelf for 6 months, any regular person would have to check the manual to be able to operate it efficiently again. Otherwise you don't know what the hell you're doing. If it was simple, there would be no need for an in depth manual.
@yaxez There is a manual, but also a simple flowchart. You guys and gals that want to operate the light via your mobile phones could also have a screenshot of it in your photos. Basic operation doesn’t need a manual, and occasional use when maybe you’ve forgotten something, then you have a picture.
@@Supernice65 I use Anduril lights. I have a couple of them, I am also on BLF. And I think Anduril is a bad interface for non-flashlight enthusiasts. And apparently TK thinks so too herself, because she is overhauling the muggle mode completely (you might have read her current thread). It even is a bad interface for many flashlight enthusiasts. Even if you already have an Anduril light and use it daily (like I do). Nobody will remember how to go to the blinkies, candle light flicker mode etc. Because you normally don't use it. It's just a completely cluttered interface with goodies for enthusiasts. And also just because the reviewer wants features you don't think are necessary does not make his wishes somehow magically invalid and ridiculous. That's one of the most annoying aspects of BLF. So many people dislike and oppose new ideas. It feels like a group of 55+ people who are too old to give a damn about "that new stuff". "IT DOESN'T RUN ANDURIL? NOT INTERESTED!!!" (according to many on BLF). Which is why we are getting ONLY Anduril lights for years now. And since the FW3A we have been FLOODED with backtail e-switch lights? Other concepts? Double e-switch? Community ring-switch lights? Non-existent. I think a bluetooth-controlled light is a great idea. You can still operate the basic functions on the light as always. But you can also use an App to find and use the hidden functions. Or use it remotely when you have the lamp hangin somehwere above you in a tree. Or even reprogram the light completey to your liking. Or create new lighting patterns yourself in the app. It is doable. It's just that nobody gives a fuck.
I received min today from amazon in Canada cost me 80$ at the door. Took me 15 min to figure it out. Not sure what is complicated about it. It’s literally 1 button access to menus.
Oops... Cell phone battery died, now it's stuck on 6,000k ultra cool white so I go blind at night when I use it. Glad I piad $179 for this Bluetooth lantern! This lantern is about as perfect as it gets. Anduril can seem complicated at first but it's really not. Infact my 68 year old mother requested a couple to have during hurricane season. She uses them regularly on her patio in the evening and I have never once heard that woman complain about being to difficult to use. If a 68 year old woman can figure out the anduril system with out a phone and Bluetooth, then I feel most people could easily do so as well. I would never own a flashlight that required a completely separate device to operate it. If you can't figure out a few click patterns, stick to convoy, or any other pleeb interface that comes on cheaper lights found at Walmart. If you want an advanced lighting system that works as well for a patio party as it does a natural disaster, and is so simple a 68 year old woman can comfortably use it, buy the lt1, if you want a gimmick go buy a Bluetooth light.
Keep the klick patterns but add some rotary switches or a bluetooth interface (which also allows for new functions i.e. control of multiple lanterns in one go). I have plenty of lights but my patience with UIs is limited. A UI needs to be fast and reliable or it becomes a liability on something serving as tool.
Yeah, all those modes and you end up not being able to do much else but turn on the light. Very useful light though. I just came up with the idea to make some sort of diffuser interface for a normal flashlight, probably exists already though..?
Yes, a diffusor will do the same trick. The BLF-LT1 has the light colors and high CRI-LEDs though which flashlights typically don't offer. Also the light distribution is better and the runtimes are way superior. It is a very good camera light and as such pretty cheap too. I should get a discount code for the light soon.
Nasty Renegade I bought a collapsible silicone dog bowl and drew around the lid from a peanut butter jar, cut a hole and have a kind of top shade similar to those opaque glass ones on old style oil lanterns. Cost me all of £2.
It is very useful and offers very long runtimes. The light quality is excellent and useful to add some light into UA-cam-videos as well. It is cheaper than a decent camera light, more robust and just as good.
@@BOOSTEDLASER I used it a lot for video conference lighting and replaced it with a ring light recently. The LT1 was hardly ever outdoors - too bulky. Cheapo lanterns are handy enough and not that much worse. Others might find better use for the LT1. After all it is a quite specialized tool.
@@BOOSTEDLASER the LT1 is now with a subscriber having enough time to admire it and marvel about the very best UI created by mankind in a cruel world permitting only a single electronic switch. I am sure he pushes it gently to not offend the LT1 while he unfolds the diagram aiding his memory. In my universe the cheapest lights come with displays, switches, haptic feedback and even remotes.
You miss the point. To stay in point it is like someone offers you a radio with a ton of functions but just one button. Behind this button is the very best UI that a human can design - if he just uses one button. It is like the very best boxer with just one arm or the fastest car with deflated tires: Great, but also a dead end in terms of design.
I earned a lot of flak for my comment. In fact there are already video lights out supporting bluetooth or wlan. In any case they benefit from additional controls that make for a way better UI than on the otherwise great BLF LT1.
@@wearandtear6692 100% its the future. Sure its expensive now but if I can buy a 20 dollar bluetooth wireless speaker adding a bluetooth module to a flashlight can't be that expensive either. In China, it's probably a dollar for a bluetooth module. In fact I just googled it... 1 dollar. Building a polished app for it would probably be the expensive part to be honest. But if it's open source I bet you light nerds would make one for free, kinda like anduril. It will be ugly and janky but eventually somebody will polish it up. Im not debating if Sofrin will do it or not, but eventually that will be "a thing." You are right about that. It's insane everything is controlled by one button.
@@SloppyPlatypus The reality is most likely that Sofirn at this point does not have time and know-how to do it. Their lights are very good but they are more or less a variation of the same theme. To squeeze a ton of functionality through one button is a problem ;-)
Now that you mention it it is a little weird that tiny keychain lights have more buttons than large Anduril devices. Maybe this could serve as inspiration for future lanterns the way the Zebralight H60 paved the way for all the 18650 headlamps made today. Given this was largely adapted from off-the-shelf parts it is quite ambitious for what it is. Torches with e-switches and ramping is still a relatively new innovation. Given the small market for these products compared to bluetooth speakers I doubt there'll be the incentive for bluetooth connectivity and android apps. The whole product is more of a "labour of love" than a commercially viable product. I have one on order at the time of writing and look forward to testing it. Thankfully I remember the basic modes from using my FW3A.
I have mixed feelings about your view. Well no actually I agree with your point of view 100%, matter of fact it's one of those brilliant ideas that while you're you're hearing it laid out you think of how great of an idea and how you wish you thought of it yourself! The kind that it's just like yeah what he said!! And really if the BLF wizards that are behind this great project see or hear of this video/idea of bluetooth integration, they'd be kind of ignorant boarder line foolish not to at least "look into it". That being said, I suppose that would be getting to the point of crossing the fine line of: Affordable, well built/designed, and innovative whenever financially possible, to: Bells, whistles, frills, and thrills. Which, of course always equates to: MORE $$$$!! And I not sure at all of what actual costs would be but I have a feeling possibly developing the app, while maybe not so much of a major up taking, and tbh I have no idea exactly what would be involved except I know It would take people and at least SOME time, and again people's time no matter how small is worth $$$ if not MORE than $$$ in all actuality, especially people with semi-special skills and or positions in which app development is possible.. so, that combined with the fact that andruil is already up running and thriving, tho like you I'm not the biggest fan of it personally but regardless if what we think it does prove to be successful up to date, so being that they already have the software it was really just second nature integrating it into this lantern. Which leads me to my last point which, you actually said it yourself near the end of your review, you turn it on/off and ramp it up and down for brightness +/- which really is what 80, 90% if not more, Of the lights true purpose and function?? So considering they already had the software I suppose you could just chop all the extra blinkyz, stroby, self cleaning, and tractor beam stuff, (all the bullshit) up to being a bonus, special features if you will. I actually am watching this video right now fur hell deciding if I should purchase it or not and I think I just might. Thank you for the good, thorough, clear and informative , but most of all HONEST review. Need to see more vids like this. I liked and subscribed way to go! 🔦👍
I use the BLF LT1 a lot. Just a few hours ago I did some nasty work under the kitchen sink - in my old days as a plumber this light would have made such a difference. It's just a great tool. But: I cant get into any of the even superficial deeper functions without some effort. Sofirn just has not yet done the R & D to make a bluetooth interface and thats ok. But I d still find it useful. My studiolight has WLAN and a (sketchy) app for a not that much more money. Thank you for your comment and subscription! Awesome!
Great review. With that being said, I disagree about the Bluetooth. Sofirn is a flashlight manufacturer, not a tech company. They don't have web designers to create an app. And if they did, this would be a "smart lantern" and cost $300. 99% of people won't use the extras. And if they do, it's still not hard to use the cheat sheet. Perhaps we should start operating our flashlights with our phones. I mean c'mon be real here. They could have just left all those extra lighting options out and you wouldn't even miss them. Meaning you can use the lantern with regular functionality quite easily. The regular person who wants a great lantern for emergencies or a camping lantern doesn't need lightning mode. But yet it's there just in case they do. It's not very difficult to look at a guide and press a button a few times.
Thank you for your take on the topic! I use the lantern a lot and my wife does too. It is a great light for video communication (webcam) among other things. That means the UI is simple enough for her to use. On the other hand a few weeks ago I was looking for a deeper function and it took me several attempts. Almost had to pull out the manual. The one button UI is way less than perfect. I have a video light that has a few switches and many more functions than the Sofirn lantern which are covered in an intuitive and efficient manner. On top of it it has a display and comes with pretty much the same price tag. So yes, a better job could be done for the money. Anduril is something for flashaholics and not for professional users. The latter group will have no patience with such a UI. Now do we need bluetooth and apps? No. But my criticism stands no matter what solution for it is proposed.
Another very nice and informative video from youthank you very much!!! 👍 I absolutely never thought, that i would ever describe an electric lighting-device as "romantic", but this one is! 😊(candlelight-mode in warmwhite and everything thats missing is a nice Girl, a bottle of delicious red wine and smooth music.) A little bit hefty for backpack, but the functionality is awsome. (Also SOS-Mode included).Really great lantern, the only thing, that would be very nice would be a protection- box or -cover.
You get the point in my opinion. So I'm thinking about the one button interface of the Anduril UI and also the Narsil UI. A connection via USB-cable or Bluetooth would be great and way more easily. The Armyteks provide the highest grade of complexity I want to use in a flashligh. Everything else is mad flashlight science ;-)! But it's funny that Sofirn uses the Batman logo regarding to the battery check (Batcheck) mode ... Best regards :-)!
Do you have any idea how much time and energy and testing and so on went into getting this light a reality? Build your own light if you can do so much better.
Certain design decisions come with their limitations no matter how good the craftmanship and execution is. These limitations are what I explain. BTW Sofirn seemingly got the point as their most recent headlamp with dual light source also features a dual switch system. It is the difference between clever gadgets and actual tools. Yepp, experts tend to get stuff like that wrong as they develop tunnel vision. Hand those brilliant Anduril and Narsil lights out to the average Joe, use them under stress and you will quickly learn what is s real tool and what is more a gadget.
Good review cheers. BTW I'm subscribed and yes the bell thing is clicked yet UA-cam didn't tell me you did this video. What is the point in a subscribe button when it ignores what I tell it I like! Anyway enjoyed the video great stuff. 👍
@@wearandtear6692 Yes i also only get told about 70% of the comments on my channel and so people think im ignoring questions. How on earth can google run this so badly? If i click subscribe i want to see all new videos and if i add a comment i expect them to be notified, its so annoying.
@@TrailTrek If I look under my videos I often discover comments and questions. For a smaller and hobby-focused channel it is very important to answer comments....
Please, help me! I THINK I'm stuck in "sunset mode". When I turn on the flashlight, it dims on its own until it turns off. I think I've tried everything, including reset. I don't know what else to do, but the flashlight doesn't keep on for more than 30 seconds :(
i also had the idea of flashlights made for the enthusiast community, to have bluetooth. for example, my emisar d4v2 has pads where you can upgrade the firmware. and i thought, well that would be a lot easier for most people if they could just update it with their phone and bluetooth, just like a smartwatch. however, it occurred to me that there is a downside to implementing this, and it's not just the cost of adding a SoC into the device. the main drawback is power efficiency. when you start adding the microprocessor and radio chipsets into the device, that are required for bluetooth, and memory for the kind of functions you describe, this draws considerably more power than typical hardware running anduril. it would made the lights have much higher standby power draw, which will deplete batteries much more quickly. for example, i measured the draw of my d4v2 Ti e21a 3500k, with aux in low; battery voltage mode, my multimeter shows .06 mA .. with a 3500 mah battery, that's over 6 years, and that's with aux leds ON. with them off, my meter shows the base parasitic draw of the driver / electronic switch to be .03 mA , it'll take over 12 years to drain a single 3500 18650. if you start adding bluetooth radios and the soc chipsets required to do bluetooth, you will have parasitic draw which will kill batteries in a few months instead of years of standby. that's not to say there wouldn't necessarily be a market for what you describe.. if we have philips light bulbs in our homes which we can control via wifi, change colors and color temperature, it's not that big if a stretch to imagine lanterns which have similar functionality. however, light bulbs are plugged into the grid, so there will always be a sacrifice in efficiency with battery powered tools, when you start making them more complicated. i like my enthusiast lights to have nice low power moonlight modes, so that if they are ever needed in a long term emergency with limited power, they can provide usable light for long periods without using up extra resources.
All very good points. But I lock my lights out mechanically when I store them away. And when they are in regular use the drain hardly matters. The bluetooth is missing because Sofirn does not yet have the routine or tech base to implement it well. That is my guess at least.
@@wearandtear6692 is that the instructions maneul? I tried it there's 4 options one includes off. The off button merely turns off when the lanterns off. But when the lanterns on the aux light is constantly on
Anduril is the best......play with the light for 30 mins a day for a week an you will remember 95 to 100 percent of it all .....very easy to learn way of ui......
Yes. I carry a Wurkkos FC12 right now on a 12h night shift. No real Anduril but superb UI. Anduril and single electronic button is casual stuff for toys and not tools. Ok but not great in the LT1. Great charts on Anduril UIs though. So smart.
No, it does not. It is literally not a good idea to squeeze complex functionality through one button even if you implement the very best UI (which you pretty much get with Anduril). Ask the outdoorsman, worker, camper - people who every year buy truckloads of lanterns. No disrespect to the work of the community behind the lamp but I take fault with their basic design premise. And honestly Sofirn does not (yet) have the routine to (quickly) realize bluetooth (with software) or a more complex multi-switch setup. Other manufacturers roll out OLED-displays and quite clever UI's on their lamps which would serve a lamp well that offers a ton of functionality. They worked with certain premises and under certain constraints - within those they did an amazing job. But: It is a dead end. That is not to say that it is not a good product - I use mine a lot. It is a very solid light, great quality!
I have seen hundreds of positive reviewde of the LT1, ( I am the designer who worked with a team, and work with feedback from the BLF members) This hs to be the worst review/hate rant of the LT1 lantern i ever seen. His points, are pointless, Bluetooth would had to cost to much, (we already explored that idea) (more thant double to triple the cost) to have the AP developed.) I was sent here by other reviewers and flashlight & lantern enthusiasts who call this review appaling & just a rant, & more of a hate rant against a lantern that was developed for people who need a great lantern. We know not everyobody can't be happy with everything, though at least i know the LT1 made nearly a million other very happy. I didn't spend hundreds of hours for free designing & developing a lantern that does what a lantern is ment to do, is offer a great portable light/lantern that has a great color rendering, great modes & features, high-quality build, a long run time on high-modes, and the ablity to recharge from a 10-watt portable solar panel to make it a true self-sustaiable light that can light the night as much as a 40 watt in bulb can every night. This WearandTear guy is a negative arrogant know-it-all. Lets see him do better and get it in production.
I have seen hundreds of positive reviewde of the LT1, ( I am the designer who worked with a team, and work with feedback from the BLF members ( over 20,000 people) This hs to be the worst review-hate of the lantern i ever seen. Your points, atre pointless. Bluetooth would had to cost, (more thant double to triple the cost) to have the AP developed.) I was sent here by other reviewers and flashlight & lantern enthusiasts who call this review appaling & just a rant, & more of a hate rant against a lantern that was developed for people who need a great lantern. We know not everyobody can't be happy with everything, though at lease i know the LT1 made nearly a million other very happy. You dissapoint many.
@@DBSARlight So you guys keep developing lights which offer layers of function with quality components to then implement the best UI in the world that is based on the very idea that more than a single electronic switch is an abomination and must be avoided? Packing a light with electronics and software and then stopping short of its potential? I'm sure you did the best job with the constraints you had to deal with. However, there are questions of design philisophy. It really depends if you push more for art or towards tools. For art it might be ok to consult an Anduril flowchart and train your motorskills to unlock obscure modes. Tools need to be simpler than that even if they offer a lot of modes. I'm not a collector. I really appreciate lights and also Anduril UI's. But there is a limit to this approach. I was often quite impressed by lights (and other tools) to just see them fail (or go wasted in part) by users who just wanted to use the thing real quick in a straightforward way. No disrespect meant.
@@wearandtear6692 Again, i see you as an anarchist, a person who prefers to thrive on negativity to bash another who had limited resources, spend years working on a project based on the beast inputs & suggestions of thousands of people, NOT to please one narcisistic, negative, hateful individual as you are. Sorry the world don;t revolve around you or serve you to pease only you. my project was a sucess, it sold nearly a million units, it recieved 99.999% positive reviews from far more reputable reviewers than you are, (that 0.0001% is you) so honestly i been happy it was a success and the other hundreds ofreviews were positive on the LT1 , (except only yours) so you have to realize you are very insignificant, (and from the other replies i read of your channel) they most all feel the same. Like it or not, i didn't design it for "you". If you don't like it.. then throw it in the trash or give it away to someone who would love to have it & move on. Manty of the big lantern & flashlight groups are already laughing at you, your video, and replies. In the mean time, I will wait to see "your" new lantern design that is better, your team, engineers you will work with, and the manufacturer wo works with you on your "better"lantern".
Why is there 20+ thumbs down this person is trying to help you ether make a purchase decision or help you with your BLF LT 1 Lantern. That's the problem with this world NEGATIVE people. People that are negative don't even deserve a quality light like this.
Thank you. The BLF LT1 would benefit from a knob or something that advances the UI beyond a single button. People start to enjoy knobs, blue tooth and Oled displays on much cheaper lights. People that use lights and do not study the perfect logic of the perfect UI based on a single button ;-) And I like Sofirn a lot, great lights. Why would I give them a fan boy feedback instead of fair criticism? I like the company and their products, they better stick around....
@@wearandtear6692 Right now I have 6 of the LED LENSER ML6's and there a great Lantern. But I also want to get some of these BLF LT1's to. I also have a LED LENSER Flashlight that's 3K LUMENS and a LED LENSER Headlamp. I just learned about this BLF LT 1 and I have to get some of these they appear to be quality and I want to give them a try. I won't buy anything unless it's HIGH QUALITY.
@@Hondacber Led Lenser is big here in Europe. I have given up on them years ago when they stuck to AA and AAA cells while everyone else was going 18650 for a fraction of the price and with better UIs. However, things may have changed and I have not looked at Led Lenser in a while. The ML6 really looks practical and nice! I think you will like the Sofirn lineup and this lantern in particular although I stand with my sceptical look at their UI on the lantern. It is 100% high quality stuff, they pour their heart into their products for the most part.
Your suggestions are cute but would probably double or triple the cost of the lantern, add to its complexity and lower its reliability. I think the current design which had a LOT of input from the BLF community has hit the sweet spot between functionality and cost.
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Yeah, he definitely got under my skin. The work that went into this made a masterpiece.
@@christopherdenny595 I have seen hundreds of positive reviewde of the LT1, ( I am the designer who worked with a team, and work with feedback from the BLF members) This hs to be the worst review/hate rant of the LT1 lantern i ever seen. His points, are pointless, Bluetooth would had to cost to much, (we already explored that idea) (more thant double to triple the cost) to have the AP developed.) I was sent here by other reviewers and flashlight & lantern enthusiasts who call this review appaling & just a rant, & more of a hate rant against a lantern that was developed for people who need a great lantern. We know not everyobody can't be happy with everything, though at least i know the LT1 made nearly a million other very happy. I didn't spend hundreds of hours for free designing & developing a lantern that does what a lantern is ment to do, is offer a great portable light/lantern that has a great color rendering, great modes & features, high-quality build, a long run time on high-modes, and the ablity to recharge from a 10-watt portable solar panel to make it a true self-sustaiable light that can light the night as much as a 40 watt in bulb can every night. Cost was a factor. This guy who "ranted" on the LT1 has a narrow-mind of thought.
I think you're kind of missing the point of this lantern. It's not designed for your mom or grandma. This light was designed by flaslight nerds for flaslight nerds. If you want a simple lantern, there are many on the market that fill that role.
Then those nerds, would LOVE it to have Bluetooth, ALSO. Right, genius? ☺
@@Lot_2023 not necessarily, one of the most important thing for flashlight nerds is reliability, adding Bluetooth would introduce another point of failure. This light basically checks almost all of the boxes for me, a flashlight nerd and member of the BLF community.
@@Lot_2023 does your butt plug use Bluetooth?
I have seen hundreds of positive reviewde of the LT1, ( I am the designer who worked with a team, and work with feedback from the BLF members) This hs to be the worst review/hate rant of the LT1 lantern i ever seen. His points, are pointless, Bluetooth would had to cost to much, (we already explored that idea) (more thant double to triple the cost) to have the AP developed.) I was sent here by other reviewers and flashlight & lantern enthusiasts who call this review appaling & just a rant, & more of a hate rant against a lantern that was developed for people who need a great lantern. We know not everyobody can't be happy with everything, though at least i know the LT1 made nearly a million other very happy. I didn't spend hundreds of hours for free designing & developing a lantern that does what a lantern is ment to do, is offer a great portable light/lantern that has a great color rendering, great modes & features, high-quality build, a long run time on high-modes, and the ablity to recharge from a 10-watt portable solar panel to make it a true self-sustaiable light that can light the night as much as a 40 watt in bulb can every night.
Anduril is one of the best interfaces you can find. Print out the cheat sheet and put it in the battery compartment if you forget. Easy.
Personally I think it’s a superb lantern and a brilliant collaboration of BLF members such as DBSAR and Toykeeper, and the manufacturing skills of Sofirn. The modes I use most are easily remembered.
Wanting Bluetooth control, timers, proximity alarms and calling the lantern a dead end is ridiculous. I mean, the lantern you used as a comparison runs on D-cells and has a AAA torch that fits in the top. The LT1 is way ahead of that. Who needs their phone to operate a lantern? Some people are never satisfied. Who needs the Anduril map to switch a lantern on and off? 3 clicks to voltage check, sleep mode etc, 3 clicks and hold for candle, lightning, strobes. 4 clicks to lockout. Yeah, I so want to dig out my phone to do that. Jeez, just get on with camping and not having to rely on a smartphone to live. Top job BLF people, best electric lantern ever. Apologies, I won’t be subscribing.
Respect for your reply but I still think that the UI is the limiting factor on a otherwise superb product.
The UI is pretty simple to be honest, but I have a Sofirn FW3A and Emisar flashlights that both use Anduril. What I find annoying is that the limitation of the UI lies with you, not with the design, yet you’ve called the lantern a dead end because you can’t work it properly. I mean Zebralight came along with a useful, but often annoying UI for all their lights, and users either learned it or chose something that suited them better. You’re saying that a lantern that runs on 1-4 18650 batteries, has a very clever and complex UI, the lantern you compared to a D-cell lantern isn’t good enough for two reasons. You cannot remember simple things, and you like to operate everything via your phone? The problem is at your end, not with the lantern. I mean it’s only one click for on and to up the output, 2 to lower output, 3 to change warm-cool, 3 to go into blinking, 3 to go into battery check, candle, 4 for lockout. That’s a whole load of stuff and you only need to be able to count to four to do it.
@@Supernice65 Calling this UI simple is a bit of a stretch. If you leave this lantern on the shelf for 6 months, any regular person would have to check the manual to be able to operate it efficiently again. Otherwise you don't know what the hell you're doing.
If it was simple, there would be no need for an in depth manual.
@yaxez There is a manual, but also a simple flowchart. You guys and gals that want to operate the light via your mobile phones could also have a screenshot of it in your photos. Basic operation doesn’t need a manual, and occasional use when maybe you’ve forgotten something, then you have a picture.
@@Supernice65 I use Anduril lights. I have a couple of them, I am also on BLF. And I think Anduril is a bad interface for non-flashlight enthusiasts. And apparently TK thinks so too herself, because she is overhauling the muggle mode completely (you might have read her current thread). It even is a bad interface for many flashlight enthusiasts. Even if you already have an Anduril light and use it daily (like I do). Nobody will remember how to go to the blinkies, candle light flicker mode etc. Because you normally don't use it. It's just a completely cluttered interface with goodies for enthusiasts.
And also just because the reviewer wants features you don't think are necessary does not make his wishes somehow magically invalid and ridiculous. That's one of the most annoying aspects of BLF. So many people dislike and oppose new ideas. It feels like a group of 55+ people who are too old to give a damn about "that new stuff". "IT DOESN'T RUN ANDURIL? NOT INTERESTED!!!" (according to many on BLF). Which is why we are getting ONLY Anduril lights for years now. And since the FW3A we have been FLOODED with backtail e-switch lights? Other concepts? Double e-switch? Community ring-switch lights? Non-existent. I think a bluetooth-controlled light is a great idea. You can still operate the basic functions on the light as always. But you can also use an App to find and use the hidden functions. Or use it remotely when you have the lamp hangin somehwere above you in a tree. Or even reprogram the light completey to your liking. Or create new lighting patterns yourself in the app. It is doable. It's just that nobody gives a fuck.
Proximity sensors? It's a lantern not a zombie apocalypse survival kit.
@@travis1118 The sensor input could be provided by the phone. Once you marry lantern and smartphone the sky is the limit.
I received min today from amazon in Canada cost me 80$ at the door. Took me 15 min to figure it out. Not sure what is complicated about it. It’s literally 1 button access to menus.
It is a cumbersome UI if you try to go to the deeper functions.
Yeah, click click hold or click click click is a real mind scrambler.
Oops... Cell phone battery died, now it's stuck on 6,000k ultra cool white so I go blind at night when I use it. Glad I piad $179 for this Bluetooth lantern!
This lantern is about as perfect as it gets. Anduril can seem complicated at first but it's really not. Infact my 68 year old mother requested a couple to have during hurricane season. She uses them regularly on her patio in the evening and I have never once heard that woman complain about being to difficult to use. If a 68 year old woman can figure out the anduril system with out a phone and Bluetooth, then I feel most people could easily do so as well.
I would never own a flashlight that required a completely separate device to operate it. If you can't figure out a few click patterns, stick to convoy, or any other pleeb interface that comes on cheaper lights found at Walmart. If you want an advanced lighting system that works as well for a patio party as it does a natural disaster, and is so simple a 68 year old woman can comfortably use it, buy the lt1, if you want a gimmick go buy a Bluetooth light.
Keep the klick patterns but add some rotary switches or a bluetooth interface (which also allows for new functions i.e. control of multiple lanterns in one go). I have plenty of lights but my patience with UIs is limited. A UI needs to be fast and reliable or it becomes a liability on something serving as tool.
@@wearandtear6692 "it's too complicated for me, but it needs to be more complicated and have extra things to malfunction." Your logic is impeccable.
@@maxlumens9085 It is already a highly sensitive electronic build, some more complexity is not the issue per se.
Yeah, all those modes and you end up not being able to do much else but turn on the light. Very useful light though. I just came up with the idea to make some sort of diffuser interface for a normal flashlight, probably exists already though..?
Yes, a diffusor will do the same trick. The BLF-LT1 has the light colors and high CRI-LEDs though which flashlights typically don't offer. Also the light distribution is better and the runtimes are way superior. It is a very good camera light and as such pretty cheap too. I should get a discount code for the light soon.
Nasty Renegade I bought a collapsible silicone dog bowl and drew around the lid from a peanut butter jar, cut a hole and have a kind of top shade similar to those opaque glass ones on old style oil lanterns. Cost me all of £2.
Seemed to light up the balcony area quite well.
It is very useful and offers very long runtimes. The light quality is excellent and useful to add some light into UA-cam-videos as well. It is cheaper than a decent camera light, more robust and just as good.
@@wearandtear6692 A year has passed, still use this or like another lantern better?
@@BOOSTEDLASER I used it a lot for video conference lighting and replaced it with a ring light recently. The LT1 was hardly ever outdoors - too bulky. Cheapo lanterns are handy enough and not that much worse. Others might find better use for the LT1. After all it is a quite specialized tool.
@@wearandtear6692 Gotya, ty for being HONEST and not a fanboi like the other 3 asked from BLF.
@@BOOSTEDLASER the LT1 is now with a subscriber having enough time to admire it and marvel about the very best UI created by mankind in a cruel world permitting only a single electronic switch. I am sure he pushes it gently to not offend the LT1 while he unfolds the diagram aiding his memory. In my universe the cheapest lights come with displays, switches, haptic feedback and even remotes.
If you struggle with a lantern don’t ever buy a handheld ham radio!!!!
You miss the point. To stay in point it is like someone offers you a radio with a ton of functions but just one button. Behind this button is the very best UI that a human can design - if he just uses one button. It is like the very best boxer with just one arm or the fastest car with deflated tires: Great, but also a dead end in terms of design.
You are 100% right. I never thought about it but the next step is bluetooth lights!!
I earned a lot of flak for my comment. In fact there are already video lights out supporting bluetooth or wlan. In any case they benefit from additional controls that make for a way better UI than on the otherwise great BLF LT1.
@@wearandtear6692 100% its the future.
Sure its expensive now but if I can buy a 20 dollar bluetooth wireless speaker adding a bluetooth module to a flashlight can't be that expensive either. In China, it's probably a dollar for a bluetooth module. In fact I just googled it... 1 dollar.
Building a polished app for it would probably be the expensive part to be honest. But if it's open source I bet you light nerds would make one for free, kinda like anduril. It will be ugly and janky but eventually somebody will polish it up.
Im not debating if Sofrin will do it or not, but eventually that will be "a thing." You are right about that. It's insane everything is controlled by one button.
@@SloppyPlatypus The reality is most likely that Sofirn at this point does not have time and know-how to do it. Their lights are very good but they are more or less a variation of the same theme. To squeeze a ton of functionality through one button is a problem ;-)
Now that you mention it it is a little weird that tiny keychain lights have more buttons than large Anduril devices. Maybe this could serve as inspiration for future lanterns the way the Zebralight H60 paved the way for all the 18650 headlamps made today. Given this was largely adapted from off-the-shelf parts it is quite ambitious for what it is.
Torches with e-switches and ramping is still a relatively new innovation. Given the small market for these products compared to bluetooth speakers I doubt there'll be the incentive for bluetooth connectivity and android apps. The whole product is more of a "labour of love" than a commercially viable product.
I have one on order at the time of writing and look forward to testing it. Thankfully I remember the basic modes from using my FW3A.
I have mixed feelings about your view. Well no actually I agree with your point of view 100%, matter of fact it's one of those brilliant ideas that while you're you're hearing it laid out you think of how great of an idea and how you wish you thought of it yourself! The kind that it's just like yeah what he said!! And really if the BLF wizards that are behind this great project see or hear of this video/idea of bluetooth integration, they'd be kind of ignorant boarder line foolish not to at least "look into it". That being said, I suppose that would be getting to the point of crossing the fine line of: Affordable, well built/designed, and innovative whenever financially possible, to: Bells, whistles, frills, and thrills. Which, of course always equates to: MORE $$$$!! And I not sure at all of what actual costs would be but I have a feeling possibly developing the app, while maybe not so much of a major up taking, and tbh I have no idea exactly what would be involved except I know It would take people and at least SOME time, and again people's time no matter how small is worth $$$ if not MORE than $$$ in all actuality, especially people with semi-special skills and or positions in which app development is possible.. so, that combined with the fact that andruil is already up running and thriving, tho like you I'm not the biggest fan of it personally but regardless if what we think it does prove to be successful up to date, so being that they already have the software it was really just second nature integrating it into this lantern. Which leads me to my last point which, you actually said it yourself near the end of your review, you turn it on/off and ramp it up and down for brightness +/- which really is what 80, 90% if not more, Of the lights true purpose and function?? So considering they already had the software I suppose you could just chop all the extra blinkyz, stroby, self cleaning, and tractor beam stuff, (all the bullshit) up to being a bonus, special features if you will. I actually am watching this video right now fur hell deciding if I should purchase it or not and I think I just might. Thank you for the good, thorough, clear and informative , but most of all HONEST review. Need to see more vids like this. I liked and subscribed way to go! 🔦👍
I use the BLF LT1 a lot. Just a few hours ago I did some nasty work under the kitchen sink - in my old days as a plumber this light would have made such a difference. It's just a great tool. But: I cant get into any of the even superficial deeper functions without some effort. Sofirn just has not yet done the R & D to make a bluetooth interface and thats ok. But I d still find it useful. My studiolight has WLAN and a (sketchy) app for a not that much more money. Thank you for your comment and subscription! Awesome!
Great review. With that being said, I disagree about the Bluetooth. Sofirn is a flashlight manufacturer, not a tech company. They don't have web designers to create an app. And if they did, this would be a "smart lantern" and cost $300. 99% of people won't use the extras. And if they do, it's still not hard to use the cheat sheet. Perhaps we should start operating our flashlights with our phones. I mean c'mon be real here. They could have just left all those extra lighting options out and you wouldn't even miss them. Meaning you can use the lantern with regular functionality quite easily. The regular person who wants a great lantern for emergencies or a camping lantern doesn't need lightning mode. But yet it's there just in case they do. It's not very difficult to look at a guide and press a button a few times.
Thank you for your take on the topic! I use the lantern a lot and my wife does too. It is a great light for video communication (webcam) among other things. That means the UI is simple enough for her to use. On the other hand a few weeks ago I was looking for a deeper function and it took me several attempts. Almost had to pull out the manual. The one button UI is way less than perfect. I have a video light that has a few switches and many more functions than the Sofirn lantern which are covered in an intuitive and efficient manner. On top of it it has a display and comes with pretty much the same price tag. So yes, a better job could be done for the money. Anduril is something for flashaholics and not for professional users. The latter group will have no patience with such a UI. Now do we need bluetooth and apps? No. But my criticism stands no matter what solution for it is proposed.
@@wearandtear6692 damn, you can't remember how to use andruil? 😂 😂 😂
Another very nice and informative video from youthank you very much!!! 👍
I absolutely never thought, that i would ever describe an electric lighting-device as "romantic", but this one is! 😊(candlelight-mode in warmwhite and everything thats missing is a nice Girl, a bottle of delicious red wine and smooth music.)
A little bit hefty for backpack, but the functionality is awsome. (Also SOS-Mode included).Really great lantern, the only thing, that would be very nice would be a protection- box or -cover.
Thanks for the review. I have one in transit from china. Hopefuly id get it by next week. Could you also do a review on the biolite lamp? Thanks!
Wow, that is a cool lantern. I have to check it out. A lot of versions too! Thank you!
@@wearandtear6692 no worries bud. Yo when you do get to review it, would be cool if i could get a shout out hahaha
lmfao who complains about lack of functionality on the most feature-rich lantern of all time?!?!?
I agree and for around $47.00 with all these functions already what more do you want. This guy is taking through arse.
@@austinwinters6645 he is just a whiner it seems.
What is that bar light? I've never seen a stick light like that one
I like my blf lt1 with samsung 35e batteries. I do not use Coleman lantern anymore.
You get the point in my opinion. So I'm thinking about the one button interface of the Anduril UI and also the Narsil UI. A connection via USB-cable or Bluetooth would be great and way more easily. The Armyteks provide the highest grade of complexity I want to use in a flashligh. Everything else is mad flashlight science ;-)! But it's funny that Sofirn uses the Batman logo regarding to the battery check (Batcheck) mode ... Best regards :-)!
Thank you! I think your Q8 also runs Narsil unless I am mistaken. It has quite a few options hidden in the UI. Yah, Batcheck...lol ;-)
@@wearandtear6692 Yes, the Q8 comes with Narsil UI. All the best :-)!
Bought one and still waiting for it to be delivered . What's yours opinion flashlights with a diffuser ? They seem much more powerful .
Do you have any idea how much time and energy and testing and so on went into getting this light a reality? Build your own light if you can do so much better.
Certain design decisions come with their limitations no matter how good the craftmanship and execution is. These limitations are what I explain. BTW Sofirn seemingly got the point as their most recent headlamp with dual light source also features a dual switch system. It is the difference between clever gadgets and actual tools. Yepp, experts tend to get stuff like that wrong as they develop tunnel vision. Hand those brilliant Anduril and Narsil lights out to the average Joe, use them under stress and you will quickly learn what is s real tool and what is more a gadget.
I agree. Lets see him design & get one produced better than this. I spent three years with a team on this.
Good review cheers. BTW I'm subscribed and yes the bell thing is clicked yet UA-cam didn't tell me you did this video. What is the point in a subscribe button when it ignores what I tell it I like! Anyway enjoyed the video great stuff. 👍
Thank you! YT does strange things, it almost stopped telling me about new comments and even videos.
@@wearandtear6692 Yes i also only get told about 70% of the comments on my channel and so people think im ignoring questions. How on earth can google run this so badly? If i click subscribe i want to see all new videos and if i add a comment i expect them to be notified, its so annoying.
@@TrailTrek If I look under my videos I often discover comments and questions. For a smaller and hobby-focused channel it is very important to answer comments....
Please, help me! I THINK I'm stuck in "sunset mode". When I turn on the flashlight, it dims on its own until it turns off.
I think I've tried everything, including reset. I don't know what else to do, but the flashlight doesn't keep on for more than 30 seconds :(
Unscrew the tailcap for a few seconds, that is what I would try first.
Interesting 🧐
Yes no light on zoom is better.
not with you and maybe Thomas ;-)
i also had the idea of flashlights made for the enthusiast community, to have bluetooth. for example, my emisar d4v2 has pads where you can upgrade the firmware. and i thought, well that would be a lot easier for most people if they could just update it with their phone and bluetooth, just like a smartwatch.
however, it occurred to me that there is a downside to implementing this, and it's not just the cost of adding a SoC into the device. the main drawback is power efficiency. when you start adding the microprocessor and radio chipsets into the device, that are required for bluetooth, and memory for the kind of functions you describe, this draws considerably more power than typical hardware running anduril. it would made the lights have much higher standby power draw, which will deplete batteries much more quickly.
for example, i measured the draw of my d4v2 Ti e21a 3500k, with aux in low; battery voltage mode, my multimeter shows .06 mA .. with a 3500 mah battery, that's over 6 years, and that's with aux leds ON. with them off, my meter shows the base parasitic draw of the driver / electronic switch to be .03 mA , it'll take over 12 years to drain a single 3500 18650. if you start adding bluetooth radios and the soc chipsets required to do bluetooth, you will have parasitic draw which will kill batteries in a few months instead of years of standby.
that's not to say there wouldn't necessarily be a market for what you describe.. if we have philips light bulbs in our homes which we can control via wifi, change colors and color temperature, it's not that big if a stretch to imagine lanterns which have similar functionality. however, light bulbs are plugged into the grid, so there will always be a sacrifice in efficiency with battery powered tools, when you start making them more complicated. i like my enthusiast lights to have nice low power moonlight modes, so that if they are ever needed in a long term emergency with limited power, they can provide usable light for long periods without using up extra resources.
All very good points. But I lock my lights out mechanically when I store them away. And when they are in regular use the drain hardly matters. The bluetooth is missing because Sofirn does not yet have the routine or tech base to implement it well. That is my guess at least.
How how is your backlit button turning off when the lanterns on?!
I did not set that but I think u can change this with Anduril!
@@wearandtear6692 is that the instructions maneul? I tried it there's 4 options one includes off. The off button merely turns off when the lanterns off. But when the lanterns on the aux light is constantly on
@@noctilucent7396 click the button 7 times from off to go through the modes.
Anduril is the best......play with the light for 30 mins a day for a week an you will remember 95 to 100 percent of it all .....very easy to learn way of ui......
Yes. I carry a Wurkkos FC12 right now on a 12h night shift. No real Anduril but superb UI. Anduril and single electronic button is casual stuff for toys and not tools. Ok but not great in the LT1. Great charts on Anduril UIs though. So smart.
Does it have more autonomy than the Fenix cl30r?
an ENTIRE COMMUNITY came up with this design, sorta trumps your suggestions.....
No, it does not. It is literally not a good idea to squeeze complex functionality through one button even if you implement the very best UI (which you pretty much get with Anduril). Ask the outdoorsman, worker, camper - people who every year buy truckloads of lanterns. No disrespect to the work of the community behind the lamp but I take fault with their basic design premise. And honestly Sofirn does not (yet) have the routine to (quickly) realize bluetooth (with software) or a more complex multi-switch setup. Other manufacturers roll out OLED-displays and quite clever UI's on their lamps which would serve a lamp well that offers a ton of functionality. They worked with certain premises and under certain constraints - within those they did an amazing job. But: It is a dead end. That is not to say that it is not a good product - I use mine a lot. It is a very solid light, great quality!
@@wearandtear6692 you know that the lantern comes set on simple mode right?
@@maxlumens9085 yes. It is simple in its basic operation.
I have seen hundreds of positive reviewde of the LT1, ( I am the designer who worked with a team, and work with feedback from the BLF members) This hs to be the worst review/hate rant of the LT1 lantern i ever seen. His points, are pointless, Bluetooth would had to cost to much, (we already explored that idea) (more thant double to triple the cost) to have the AP developed.) I was sent here by other reviewers and flashlight & lantern enthusiasts who call this review appaling & just a rant, & more of a hate rant against a lantern that was developed for people who need a great lantern. We know not everyobody can't be happy with everything, though at least i know the LT1 made nearly a million other very happy. I didn't spend hundreds of hours for free designing & developing a lantern that does what a lantern is ment to do, is offer a great portable light/lantern that has a great color rendering, great modes & features, high-quality build, a long run time on high-modes, and the ablity to recharge from a 10-watt portable solar panel to make it a true self-sustaiable light that can light the night as much as a 40 watt in bulb can every night. This WearandTear guy is a negative arrogant know-it-all. Lets see him do better and get it in production.
I have seen hundreds of positive reviewde of the LT1, ( I am the designer who worked with a team, and work with feedback from the BLF members ( over 20,000 people) This hs to be the worst review-hate of the lantern i ever seen. Your points, atre pointless. Bluetooth would had to cost, (more thant double to triple the cost) to have the AP developed.) I was sent here by other reviewers and flashlight & lantern enthusiasts who call this review appaling & just a rant, & more of a hate rant against a lantern that was developed for people who need a great lantern. We know not everyobody can't be happy with everything, though at lease i know the LT1 made nearly a million other very happy. You dissapoint many.
@@DBSARlight So you guys keep developing lights which offer layers of function with quality components to then implement the best UI in the world that is based on the very idea that more than a single electronic switch is an abomination and must be avoided? Packing a light with electronics and software and then stopping short of its potential? I'm sure you did the best job with the constraints you had to deal with. However, there are questions of design philisophy. It really depends if you push more for art or towards tools. For art it might be ok to consult an Anduril flowchart and train your motorskills to unlock obscure modes. Tools need to be simpler than that even if they offer a lot of modes. I'm not a collector. I really appreciate lights and also Anduril UI's. But there is a limit to this approach. I was often quite impressed by lights (and other tools) to just see them fail (or go wasted in part) by users who just wanted to use the thing real quick in a straightforward way. No disrespect meant.
@@wearandtear6692 Again, i see you as an anarchist, a person who prefers to thrive on negativity to bash another who had limited resources, spend years working on a project based on the beast inputs & suggestions of thousands of people, NOT to please one narcisistic, negative, hateful individual as you are. Sorry the world don;t revolve around you or serve you to pease only you. my project was a sucess, it sold nearly a million units, it recieved 99.999% positive reviews from far more reputable reviewers than you are, (that 0.0001% is you) so honestly i been happy it was a success and the other hundreds ofreviews were positive on the LT1 , (except only yours) so you have to realize you are very insignificant, (and from the other replies i read of your channel) they most all feel the same. Like it or not, i didn't design it for "you". If you don't like it.. then throw it in the trash or give it away to someone who would love to have it & move on. Manty of the big lantern & flashlight groups are already laughing at you, your video, and replies. In the mean time, I will wait to see "your" new lantern design that is better, your team, engineers you will work with, and the manufacturer wo works with you on your "better"lantern".
Why is there 20+ thumbs down this person is trying to help you ether make a purchase decision or help you with your BLF LT 1 Lantern. That's the problem with this world NEGATIVE people. People that are negative don't even deserve a quality light like this.
Thank you. The BLF LT1 would benefit from a knob or something that advances the UI beyond a single button. People start to enjoy knobs, blue tooth and Oled displays on much cheaper lights. People that use lights and do not study the perfect logic of the perfect UI based on a single button ;-) And I like Sofirn a lot, great lights. Why would I give them a fan boy feedback instead of fair criticism? I like the company and their products, they better stick around....
@@wearandtear6692 Right now I have 6 of the LED LENSER ML6's and there a great Lantern. But I also want to get some of these BLF LT1's to. I also have a LED LENSER Flashlight that's 3K LUMENS and a LED LENSER Headlamp. I just learned about this BLF LT 1 and I have to get some of these they appear to be quality and I want to give them a try. I won't buy anything unless it's HIGH QUALITY.
@@Hondacber Led Lenser is big here in Europe. I have given up on them years ago when they stuck to AA and AAA cells while everyone else was going 18650 for a fraction of the price and with better UIs. However, things may have changed and I have not looked at Led Lenser in a while. The ML6 really looks practical and nice! I think you will like the Sofirn lineup and this lantern in particular although I stand with my sceptical look at their UI on the lantern. It is 100% high quality stuff, they pour their heart into their products for the most part.