half the time i watch thermy's games i'm like "there's no way this is winnable" and he just walks over his grandmaster opponents anyway with the most clowny strats :D
I think it’s cuz Terran OP. The widow mine harass is way too ez and gets way too much value. The other races don’t have anywhere near the same option for early worker harass (don’t say oracle cuz at most you get 3 workers with one while mines get 5+ and deny mining for way longer)
@@jasonjia123 WMs are ground, have mediocre speed and don't have a lot of HP. it's just a matter of a defender paying attention. it's hit or miss. oracle is fast, can't be hit by majority of units, therefore it's always hit, unless you used it badly enough. a couple guaranteed worker kills is usually better than not knowing if your mine will actually manage to burrow in the mineral line. and the ultimate early worker harass option is adepts. they deal massive damage to workers and are kinda beefy so you can't kill them as easily as you can kill mines. shades, they mess the defenders' plans too. so no, terran is by no mean an OP early worker harasser. and no, reapers don't do much, they deal very little DPS so you have time to counter it before it's too late, sometimes even if you got caught off guard. the best race for early harassment is protoss. the best race for changing plans on the fly is zerg. the best race for being Maru is terran. the only OP in Starcraft II are Serral and Dark.
@@cyberkekosis widow mines have evasion, require only one building past rax that you were guaranteed to build anyway, and have AOE attack. Oracles require a stargate (meaning you have to forego robo to make it equivalent to T), can only hit ground as well, and alert the player immediately after one worker is hit. Also, no evasion. You can't even begin to compare the 2 bc widow mines are way better. Don't even pretend adepts are great worker harass. Terran literally just walls off and then they become useless unless in the hands of a GM or above. Widow mines and reapers require no micro whatsoever (don't call A-Move micro). Even if a reaper doesn't get much value early on, then it still gets great scout value later. Reapers and Oracles are somewhat equivalent single target worker harass each with follow-up value for scouting. Widow mines are COMPLETELY UNMATCHED. You literally brought up 2 terran worker harass to Toss's 1.
@@cyberkekosis dude, do you actually think terran isn't the most OP? Zerg requires great macro and APM to even be competent, so it's mostly fair that they're the most winning race rn. Terran on the other hand wins almost as much, and the APM required is just as low as the APM required for toss. Just lol if you think terran is just the "best race for being Maru".....Terran is the single easiest race for anyone to succeed with. There's a reason why in games that matter, you always see guys like Thermal and Harstem going T when they wanna win.
@@eqsaz you could just watch anyone else if that’s the case. uThermal’s community isn’t just about the game but enjoying him as a content creator as well.
I actually tested mass Thors vs Skytoss in unit tester, believe it or not, Thors actually kinda destroy similar cost/supply of Skytoss, even with both sides fully upgraded, the problem is mobility though.
@@norberthiz9318 sure but then you can also have less supply in Thors and more in something that deals well with the ground, maybe 12 libs, 12 Thor's, some ghosts
@@geuros libs don't counter disruptors, they can only zone them out, but then toss can just make some tempests, and there is nothing you can do, you can't engage with thor lib against tempest carrier disruptor that is impossible, and if you never engage the toss will slowly kill you
@@geuros also once you hit a stupid supply of libs with upgrades their area air attack suddenly isn't so funny anymore, which never works as a primary strategy but if you run it into a big group of mutalisk or even carriers in a a game things just sort of melt.
Comment during GSL, "Are Maru's units better than other Terran's units?". I feel the same way about UWU. I try some of these genius builds and get faced. I will continue to try them. Always appreciated! #uwu #sc2
Did not watch this game, but why would you build the thor in the opponent's base, the time it takes to get the armoury and then build the thor, you could have a medivac ready and safely build it outside his base? Obviously 1 perk would be gas timings allowing for more minerals, but unless you was also using those minerals to host a marine all in at the front door to keep him busy while your thor built, I don't really see the benefit and seems a bit extra risky for no real gain.
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half the time i watch thermy's games i'm like "there's no way this is winnable" and he just walks over his grandmaster opponents anyway with the most clowny strats :D
I think it’s cuz Terran OP. The widow mine harass is way too ez and gets way too much value. The other races don’t have anywhere near the same option for early worker harass (don’t say oracle cuz at most you get 3 workers with one while mines get 5+ and deny mining for way longer)
@@jasonjia123 WMs are ground, have mediocre speed and don't have a lot of HP. it's just a matter of a defender paying attention. it's hit or miss. oracle is fast, can't be hit by majority of units, therefore it's always hit, unless you used it badly enough. a couple guaranteed worker kills is usually better than not knowing if your mine will actually manage to burrow in the mineral line.
and the ultimate early worker harass option is adepts. they deal massive damage to workers and are kinda beefy so you can't kill them as easily as you can kill mines. shades, they mess the defenders' plans too.
so no, terran is by no mean an OP early worker harasser. and no, reapers don't do much, they deal very little DPS so you have time to counter it before it's too late, sometimes even if you got caught off guard. the best race for early harassment is protoss. the best race for changing plans on the fly is zerg. the best race for being Maru is terran.
the only OP in Starcraft II are Serral and Dark.
@@cyberkekosis widow mines have evasion, require only one building past rax that you were guaranteed to build anyway, and have AOE attack. Oracles require a stargate (meaning you have to forego robo to make it equivalent to T), can only hit ground as well, and alert the player immediately after one worker is hit. Also, no evasion. You can't even begin to compare the 2 bc widow mines are way better.
Don't even pretend adepts are great worker harass. Terran literally just walls off and then they become useless unless in the hands of a GM or above. Widow mines and reapers require no micro whatsoever (don't call A-Move micro). Even if a reaper doesn't get much value early on, then it still gets great scout value later. Reapers and Oracles are somewhat equivalent single target worker harass each with follow-up value for scouting. Widow mines are COMPLETELY UNMATCHED. You literally brought up 2 terran worker harass to Toss's 1.
@@cyberkekosis dude, do you actually think terran isn't the most OP? Zerg requires great macro and APM to even be competent, so it's mostly fair that they're the most winning race rn. Terran on the other hand wins almost as much, and the APM required is just as low as the APM required for toss. Just lol if you think terran is just the "best race for being Maru".....Terran is the single easiest race for anyone to succeed with. There's a reason why in games that matter, you always see guys like Thermal and Harstem going T when they wanna win.
@@jasonjia123 idk my mmr with terran is literally a dozen hundred lower than with zerg
Why would you build a thor in your opponents base and then continue to spam mass thors afterwards?
uThermal: "It came to me in a dream"
Florencios been doing this for a while
If you build it, they will come.
Damnit, I hear him say I dreamt it, thought of commenting "It came to me in a dream", scroll down, its already there D:
Don't mock people finding solutions in dreams. The guy who designed the gear that jammed German V-rockets came up with the design in a dream.
We want to see you too Marc! The games aren't the same without your reactions! GGWP as always :D
Personally I'm here for the gameplay, not for the streamer's face.
@@eqsaz you could just watch anyone else if that’s the case. uThermal’s community isn’t just about the game but enjoying him as a content creator as well.
@@benihanah I mean it's more about his commentary then a face cam.
why not both tho bro@@takanara7
that thor vs showtime was hilarious af. you play to entertain bro! kudos to you.
In hindsight, I wonder what would have happened if you kept the mines near the factory until the Thor was ready, then went out to attack.
IRS would sue Marc for illegal mining
2 oracles would have killed his mineral line abd then depends...;D
That game certainly left him with a...
... _Thor spot_
[Rimshot]
Calm down with the jokes Mike Tyson 🤣🤣🤣
I actually tested mass Thors vs Skytoss in unit tester, believe it or not, Thors actually kinda destroy similar cost/supply of Skytoss, even with both sides fully upgraded, the problem is mobility though.
the problem is ground, what you gonna do about a couple of disruptors and even immortal+carrier is very good against thors
@@norberthiz9318 sure but then you can also have less supply in Thors and more in something that deals well with the ground, maybe 12 libs, 12 Thor's, some ghosts
@@geuros libs don't counter disruptors, they can only zone them out, but then toss can just make some tempests, and there is nothing you can do, you can't engage with thor lib against tempest carrier disruptor that is impossible, and if you never engage the toss will slowly kill you
@@geuros also once you hit a stupid supply of libs with upgrades their area air attack suddenly isn't so funny anymore, which never works as a primary strategy but if you run it into a big group of mutalisk or even carriers in a a game things just sort of melt.
Hecking chonkers to describe Thors. Gave me a chuckle
It would be funny if you build a Thor in Protoss main and they scout it, if they also hear "Thor is here" haha
An old standard build comes back. Always worked on maps with a lot of space in the main 🎉
Ahhh... Another satisfying video! I always love it when the army comp is so simple yet the timing and positioning is terrific.
thanks thermy
Where is yo face?..If being held captive, type 6 followed by 9 in the reply, for rescue!
I'd just like to acknowledge you said "We are coming on top of this game strategically"
I love how this vast level of skill and game knowledge is being used to create absolutely absurd strategies :D
Damn, even under the battery overcharge that Carrier just evaporated! 😮
Just a sneaky little stealth Thor slipping into the enemy base.......
Just watched the thor video on Lowko, keep doing the good work my man 😘
This felt more like one of those "that's what skytoss does to your brain" games ngl
Comment during GSL, "Are Maru's units better than other Terran's units?". I feel the same way about UWU. I try some of these genius builds and get faced. I will continue to try them.
Always appreciated! #uwu #sc2
what’s a uwu
Best SC2 content maker right now
Source: it came to me in a dream
Uthermal: You son of a bitch, I'm in!
New challenge idea.
1) Pick a cheese from the random wheel of cheese
2) Tell your opponent what opening you're playing
3. opponent still thinks you're gonna Thor rush him despite scouting 5 BCs in your main
It feels so weird to see carriers attacking a natural at 9 minutes into the game. Makes me think I'm watching a derpy team game, not a GM 1v1.
NGL this game looked like one of my WOL plat games but I'm all here for it xD
emperor penguin stomp
Marc wakes up, covered in sweat... panting...
Sitting up already... he raises his hands and shouts
PENGUIN BROS!!!!
KETROC regularly uses this build. Has for years.
First mass ravens, now he's up to proxy thors. Before long uthermal will have no pants on.
The only reason why I would watch youtube now
you are the reason of my premium Marc
should give uthermal that cash instead of yt
ma boi gettin in to the Harstem action
So glad I'm getting daily videos again ❤❤❤
ABSOLUTLEY BARBARIC
If a massive unit can break a forcefield, then maybe it shouldn't be able to be stunned.
what an absolute unit of a game.
Damn, those Thors!
Good stuff
Thermy's back!
We love you Thermyyyy!!!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️ Keep up the great work!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thermal your terran is always treat to watch brother, awesome stuff
Love the content!
I'm going to build a Thor in his base... I don't even play SC2 and I laughed out loud.
lmao, mass thors are hilarious. There's a critical mass of thors that basically just oneshots whatever you right click on.
Rough snipe for the sniper
Ggwp that was insaneee
4K uploads are very appreciated!!
When will you start uploading on the main account too?
So much fun in this game
Everytime i see a THOR video, i click like!
Dream a little dream of cheese.
Til mark is the chosen one
mega!
hahaha gg!!
Toss air useless vs Thor's without zealots
AAAHHHHHH! -uthermy
so cool.
Tu si eres el puto amo
Let's go
Did not watch this game, but why would you build the thor in the opponent's base, the time it takes to get the armoury and then build the thor, you could have a medivac ready and safely build it outside his base?
Obviously 1 perk would be gas timings allowing for more minerals, but unless you was also using those minerals to host a marine all in at the front door to keep him busy while your thor built, I don't really see the benefit and seems a bit extra risky for no real gain.
What is mass Thor weakness?
Bet we gonna see this game on Harmstem chanel.. is it imba? 🤨😂
There’s no way that guy is a GM…
Lol great game. Mape is a great player.
what wrong with the old channel...
He were sick, his video disappeared completely from my feed even I subbed (i think) , I thought.... hahaha
Why is proxy building considered a cheese?
You dreamt of a cheese Strat and it failed in your dream. But now you are going to do it in real life and it will work! :) LOL EDIT: Yeah I am kinda getting over the misleading click bait. You built a Thor in his base... But it died straight away and still the "CHEESE" title. Title bait clicks every time you upload a video. Cheese. Bait Cheese Click Cheese. Cheese Cheese.
I actually really miss your face ;-)
Why drop thors when you can just build them in their base lol?
What happened to the cam? This feels a lot more boring without it :/
Please bring the face cam back
Fun to watch but wish we had some educational stuff and not uThermal smurfing in the ladder with silly builds all the time
"I built a thor in his main base...
...and achieved nothing with it."
shameless click bait title.
I want to play so bad but the game gives me crazy anxiety and I only ever make it 3 or 4 games before I quit again.