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0:00 - Introduction
1. 5:55 What are your thoughts on divorce and remarriage for Christians? Is it biblical?
2. 15:33 What are your thoughts about the Covid vaccine, and about following other government mandates or laws?
3. 22:52 What do you think of women in positions of Christian leadership?
4. 24:39 Is it o.k. for Christians to live in prosperity? How prosperous is too prosperous for a Christian, when it comes to possessions? Should Christians sell all that they have?
5. 29:05 How can we share the gospel to gay friends? Do you believe there is such a thing as a "gay Christian" that continues to act on their temptations? If someone is currently in a gay marriage, should they divorce, or stay committed to the marriage?
6. 44:01 What does Pastor Mike think about Nate and Sutton’s channel?
7. 45:47 Why do we worship on Sundays when the 10 Commandments talk about the Sabbath and even Jesus kept the Sabbath?
8. 49:49 What is your perspective on the practice of speaking in tongues? Is that gift for today? And what do you think about people who say if you don't speak in tongues, you don't have the Holy Spirit?
9. 54:57 When it comes to our giving, is there a specific percentage Christians are supposed to tithe or give?
10. 1:02:37 How did Satan have the ability to sin before the fall, and how did sin come to exist?
11. 1:05:21 Why should we pray for unbelievers to be saved when God already has His “Elect” chosen?
Here's Nate and Sutton's channel. I had a great time with them but also think that they have valuable content that is helping people know and follow Christ. Check them out! ua-cam.com/channels/dY3Sgxm_ay3bu_lk70zL0w.html
This is my exhaustive video on divorce and remarriage. If you really want help on this I recommend you patiently watch it all and prayerfully consider it. ua-cam.com/video/N2pC6ZikbYo/v-deo.html
My website BibleThinker.org
Mike DON'T FORGET to read this BOOK for WOMAN IN MINISTRY by Donna Howell ''Handmaidens conspiracy'' . An EXCELLENT RESOURCE , VERY important. God bless
Question two was certainly unexpected. I have certainly chafed under what I believe are arbitrary and capricious edicts disseminated in the name of public health and safety (calling it "The new apartheid of non-essential"). I think you handled them all well. I found no disagreement with any, nor did I expect to as you've been fairly, if not, unwaveringly, consistent these past few years.
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Hey Mike, you should check out "Open Doors" charity for persecuted Christians around the world. That's one that my church has promoted, you should check out whether you like what they're doing or not 😀
If you've spoken in tongues you can pray in it whenever you want privately. It's in you through His spirit just try to and it'll happen. He doesn't take it away.
Love your humbleness, Mike Winger.
Secretly I hope you never find out what a blessing you are for so many people. It will blow your mind.
Stay blessed.
This!!!!
Yes
That’s God working through him. Give the credit to the holy spirt with which his heart is filled
@@ceelothatmane9421
Are you saying he is just a puppet on a string? Far from it!
@@e.l.243 I’m saying, the the glory is to God for working through him as a vessel for his word to be spread
Mike Winger is the boss. The way he explains scriptures is awesome. I can listen to you for hours. God bless you abundantly.
Good thing every one of his videos is an hour.
@@benrex7775 yes . They send me to sleep immediately.
@@marksandsmith6778
_"For He gives to His beloved even in his sleep."_
Psalm 127,2b
@@benrex7775 spot the initials...
Proverbs 26 12.
Seest thou a Man Wise in his own conceit. There is more hope of a fool than him.
Or you
@@marksandsmith6778 sorry, I'm not smart enough to understand what you just implied.
Did you claim either I or Mike Winger look at ourselves as wise? If it was about Mike then I don't think you have a point. Because he spends way too much time trying to understand others opinion instead of forcing his own down the throat of others.
And if you meant I see myself as wise then I don't know why you would think that. None of what we are talking about had anything to do with wisdom. Quick-wittedness perhaps, but not wise.
Pray for those seeking the Lord.
@Electronaut true man. Me too
Amen!
Hallelujah. Amen
Forgiveness isn’t reconciliation. I’m glad u talked about that Mike! It applies to all unrepentant people, for us.
That was a wonderful answer!!!
This is the exact understanding everyone needs to have about what forgiveness actually means! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! It's what I have believed for so many years, now I feel like I can articulate what I believe! Thanks for everything you do Pastor Mike Winger!
@@pastormikewinger7212 @Mike Winger ... yeah, impersonating people and then acting woo-woo-squish to discredit them isn't cool.
@@ravissary79 That obvious troll, does nothing but comment this exact same comment all day, under all the big names on here. It’s comically stupid. I’ve seen this no brain comment, respond to me personally, under all my favorite UA-cam preachers. Just report the account, and ignore them.
@@jaquirox6579 Make sure that you report these people to youtube. Click on their name. Then on "about." And then click the flag icon. Then click "report user." Then choose the reason "Impersonating."
Solid answers! I also loved your commentary at the end about Christians just wearing their Christianity on their sleeve online. I'm a pretty new Christian and I have loved sharing what I'm learning and sharing my journey on social media. I feel like I've annoyed and frustrated some people by doing so and I certainly don't make THAT my mission or purpose- but I just can't stay quiet about all the amazing beautiful things I'm learning about God. I genuinely feel like it would make me a bad friend and family member to keep it to myself. Thanks for giving an encouragement that you didn't even know this random viewer needed to hear.
So happy for you Steph! 💜
Relate to this!! I already lost a few friends..., they say I’ve changed and don’t talk to me anymore 😅
@@nishanthrajkumar8333 hey if they say you changed praise the Lord. "Unless you are born again you shall not see the kingdom of God."
Saaaame! I feel I would be and have told others I would be the worst scum of the earth to believe what I do and not tell anyone! Makes me think about Jeremiah where he talks about trying to keep the Word of God inside, but it was like trying to hold a fire in his belly. I relate!
I appreciate how gracious you are when being interviewed by people of various platforms/maturity/opinions/etc; I pray your humility stays genuine as your ministry continues to grow!
Hi Pastor, nice to hear your sound teachings! Love from India. Pls uphold us in your valuable prayers as we are going through tough time amidst COVID-19 pandemic!
I just read an article yesterday about India and covid, and was praying after. Now I’m seeing your comment and glad for the reminder to continue praying. Just wanted you to know that there are brothers and sisters here in the US thinking about and praying for you.
I just read an article yesterday about India and covid, and was praying after. Now I’m seeing your comment and glad for the reminder to continue praying. Just wanted you to know that there are brothers and sisters here in the US thinking about and praying for you.
I just read an article yesterday about India and covid, and was praying after. Now I’m seeing your comment and glad for the reminder to continue praying. Just wanted you to know that there are brothers and sisters here in the US thinking about and praying for you.
@@GuitarJesse7 Thank you for your kind words. We are praying to our Lord to have mercy on the people of India and it’s a total chaos as we see multitudes suffer for want of medical aid! Crying out to Lord for His mercies and Grace to endure these tough times! We believe this too shall pass!
Stay in faith dont lose courage in our lord jesus christ. We are all praying for India my heart is broken to see what is happening there. ♥️
Voice of the martyrs is a wonderful ministry that helps persecuted Christians. God bless you Pastor Mike.
Lenise that is not Mike Winger that replied to you !
@@Hewillreturn Yeah that's the Walmart great value brand Mikey wings....
All do respect to this couple and with love this is why discipleship is so important. These questions are easy to answer if you just study your Bible. Also when a new believer accepts Christs . Teaching them about the flesh and the spirit continuing to battle, Sanctification, spiritual warfare, meaning of being born again and regeneration, the love of money, Justification, and being sealed by the Holy Spirit, also testing if you’re in the faith, which is Christ in you. We are crucified with Christ, nevertheless, we live, but not us that lives Christ that lives through us.
All due* respect
This video is how I found you Mike! So many good, solid & biblical answers! I learnt so much. Also encouraging to see amazing Christian UA-camrs coming together like this. It’s inspiring for a youtuber like me!!
Hi Emily! Since you are a UA-camr, you might be interested in my second channel. It is just focused on teaching people all I’ve learned about youtube tactics. It’s all for free, I just want to see other Christian UA-camrs doing well and reaching people. ua-cam.com/channels/PjFC53u7nIMUoNFZeAxhjg.html
Yeeeey welcome!!! We love you already
@@MikeWinger i've been bingeing your second channel the past few days! it's super helpful and I love the mission!
When he was talking about his allowance and getting $2...”can I have some more sire.” 🤣🤣🤣 he’s so awkward And funny. One of my favorite brothers in the faith 🙏🏼
Can’t wait for the video on women’s roles in the church. I and so many of my sisters in the Lord struggle with finding a biblical answer for where to draw the line (I can only confidently say we as women aren’t to be head of the church). It’s hard to find the application because of how we do church today. We want to bless others with our gifts but above all we truly just want to honor the Lord and do it God’s way. Truly appreciate all the preparation and research Mike does in order to best answer these questions biblically.
Me too! I'm looking forward to this as well. I've struggled in my understanding of this in the scriptures but above all, I want to know the truth and live in a way that honors God.
Can I just say, that I know I'm a man saying this and it may not be taken as well as it could, but I'm very proud of you and your group because you guys are seeking to follow God's will for it and not what you would want to do, I pray that we all do that in all the areas of our life not just this one, you are an amazing example of following Christ and an inspiration to all of us❤
@@Sirkento much appreciated!
I'm a woman and I do not agree with women being the hea dof the church. You can say i'm making generalization and not all women like this but I have to generalize because when we appoint someone we dont know fully about that person. Women have always been emotional and change their mind quickly. Women are impressionable. Women is more pretentious than men. There are a lot of reasons why The Bible says that woman cant be the head of the church. Women naturally have a lot of shortcomings compared to men. We just have to accept that our gender was the first one to ask man to eat the forbidden fruit. Hence why I said so.
I do not hate men and as Christians we should know that what we think is right is not actually right in the eyes of God. We are not wise and our heart is full of wickedness. If God wanted to so much for men and women to be equal, then He would've said so in the beginning. What we think progressive is a lot of times against the bible teaching. If women cant accept this then you should question yourself, do you wanna follow the bible or you wanna follow modern christianity? Women can lead another women but not the whole church.
sorry if my grammar is all over the place. I'm not native english speaker.
I so love being challenged, angered, comforted, and taught by you. I love disagreeing and agreeing with your teaching. It’s like a great roller coaster ride that always finishes well. 🥂
49:30 Nate says: “When you speak...you have such a gift”. I completely agree. God has blessed you and us with a beautiful gift in you to teach His truth. Praise Him.
Mike is my favorite teacher❤🙏🙌
Same
I totally agree with you Brooke! I could watch him for hours if I had the time !
I clicked on this faster than bears showing up at Elisha’s behest
Go up baldy.
Extra credit for using "behest"
*bears intensifying
Look for the, beaarrrr necessities
I clicked quickly, but not that quick!
Mike that last question you answered is something I’ve always struggled with. Please pray I won’t continue to neglect my spiritual responsibilities. I get discouraged when I share the Gospel and it isn’t received well. I know that it isn’t right to give up but I know that there are people who need to hear the Gospel and we’re the ones that need to share. I just need to be courageous and not a coward anymore.
Think of Jeremiah's ministry. If he was more concerned with who was listening than simply obeying God, he would have considered himself a failure. We can't control the hearts where the seed falls. Our job is to keep sowing!
As someone who has studied the matter in depth, I really appreciate your answer regarding women in ministry. In fact, I have come to the conclusion that the biblical case for women in all areas of church leadership is overwhelmingly stronger than the opposing view. But I love your honesty and humility, and that you're planning to study it further from all sides, especially since I suspect many simply align themselves with the "traditional" view without looking into it very deeply. Even if you don't come to the same conclusion, you've proven that you're someone who does his due diligence, keeps an open mind, and genuinely wants to know the truth. I look forward to hearing the results of your study, regardless of what you conclude!
Can you give me a little bit of insight? As a woman who is going into ministry? I need to study it myself but it doesn't hurt to ask others either
Thanks for the timestamps! Instantly 1:02:37
Pastor Mike, thank you for your channel and your ministry. I was raised Catholic and never really understood Christianity or the Bible until I found your channel. I wanted to find Christ, but the way you explain and use evidence for everything is so powerful.
Nate is so right, you are such a gift Mike. I thank God for your life and your ministry. God bless you. ❤
I can't thank you enough Pastor Mike for giving me a biblical perspective of important topics and teaching me what the word truly says without leading to weird theologies. The more I watch your videos, the more confident I feel about my faith.
Mike, I will pray for you that you stay grounded in the authority of God’s word. Maybe these people are genuine but they sound shallow and fawning to me. Don’t let anyone tickle your ears to accept the praise of people. Serve God and be faithful to his word.
I agree. I'm getting a little annoyed by how they constantly seem to "tempt" Mike into pride while he's trying his hardest to steer away from their constant glorification of him. These people seemingly need to learn to be more casual with (high-profile) Christians and UA-cam success, and direct the adoration to God instead.
This couple is too much. They are wolves in sheep's clothing: sickening.
@@marinagallant1847 Yeah... any proof? Just a feeling? Maybe they are just trying to be encouraging to Mike. Do you have a link to some bad theology of theirs?
Absolutely love the way you bring biblical insight to these deeply profound and controversial questions with such grace. Truly you have a Pastor's heart! God Bless you, and may you keep doing what you're doing Pastor Mike
Wow! UA-cam just recommended this video to me and Ioved it! I’ve never heard of Nate and Sutton but after watching the interview I subscribed to them. I love how you were telling them you’re planning to cover women in ministry and now you have!
Thanks for the timestamps. So I found out when you are planning to do the study on women in ministry and I won't bother you again about this but will just patiently wait.😊
Already watched this on Nate and Sutton’s channel and it was such a good Q&A! So happy with this collab!
We love the sincerity of your heart and indeed your research is well founded. God bless you Pastor Mike. Praying for the good Lord to guard you from wolves in sheep clothing.🙏🙏🙏🙏
Brother Mike I agree with what your guests said about you. Thanks for following the Holy Spirit and being a clear voice for the hungry flock. God bless you greatly Brother in the name of Jesus Christ.
Mike over here with this extra content! 😁
The heart queen 👑
Yesssss 🙌🏽
@@yellowrose7117 lolol
the law given through Moses by GOD was the greatest Moral law ever given to humanity...Sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus Himself but does not make the law only for Israel...it is the law written on all believers hearts!
Your ability to teach in honesty, according to his word is breathtaking. I am so grateful to have met you yesterday via the video with Alissa Childers, God does work in mysterious and grateful ways. Bless you always
One of the best Bible scholar who speak and explain the word of God in a way the listener can understand. Kuddos and thank you sir Mike...
Muy bueno. Thank you for not shying away from the super necessary topics.
Oh I also love your answer on election too! Very nice! Knowing answers doesn’t mean you didn’t have a choice in the matter. ❤️
I love pastor Mike! It's been a great blessing finding his channel. God bless you, guys. Love from South Africa.
Praise God for your humility and for always acknowledging God-given wisdom to you Pastor Mike. Keep being a blessing to everyone! ❤️🙌
This question session really reinforced my own understanding of the answers to these questions when they were answered previously. Thank you all for, once again, going through these questions and not just saying 'Hey, we've already talked about this stuff so just go watch the past videos'. I LOVE some good clarification!
Those are tough questions! Thanks for taking the time to do these. Learning a lot.
This was a great interview. Nate and Sutton's questions were current, and I liked that they asked more questions about one topic. Mike's answers were short and humble. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and God-given wisdom to this big audience.
I got also moved by you sharing about your father. It was encouraging to hear that he's got also other Christians to be surrounded by. I pray that he comes to know Jesus as his Savior.
Keep up the good work!
Mike, I love you brother ☀️ I pray the Lord continues to add to your blessedness 100 fold, in the fruit of the Holy Spirit, that you may have even more to give, to the glory of our Father and of our Lord and King Jesus Christ!
To God be the glory, now and forevermore 🙏
Amen great prayer! I’m in agreement 🙏
When Mike was basically like “yeah, I don’t watch your content.....🥴” I was cracking up!!! I knew he didn’t mean it as a negative thing, I think he just has a lot going on. Even so, it was a pretty funny moment.
So funny and so awkward! Ha! Like you said, nothing negative but he just didn't know about them. I can say the same about Mike himself. I just stumbled upon him just a few months back. And glad I did!
THANK YOU FOR TIMESTAMPS !
I relate with Nate and Sutton, Mike, you are someone whose thought and comment on an issue relating to scriptures I respect a lot too, God continue to increase you in wisdom
Mike you have helped me with so many answers I’ve been seeking , Thankyou and God bless you and your family brother in Christ ✝️
I wanna be more like Christ and just as cool as Mike Winger 😂😂😂 You're just so cool without compromising sound doctrine.
*Wow. Clicked so fast. Love those controversial questions* 🤔😁
What I love about you Mike, you speak with humility and not arrogance which I find annoying from some brothers in the faith who do try teach and then bag others.
Over and Over Mike shows me that he is true to the bible. I have heard many pastors apologize to people or sugar-coat homosexuality and other touchy subjects and Mike does not. Mike says what needs to be said so we all can do what is needed so that our relationship with God is real. Great job Pastor Mike. Thumbs UP................
Timestamp #2: I was worried you were gonna come down sooo hard on my crazy speeding habits 🤣 #relieved
A way I've heard this explained is that the command is to obey the people who rule over you, it's silent on the written laws.
@@RobotMowerTricks That's absurd
I am so amazed that you have addressed the stem cell issue. I was actually in the process of commenting about it when you brought it up yourself.
Your knowledge is so inspiring. I love the Lord and don’t feel I’m smart enough to understand all the deep issues. Thank you for your heart for God & your Biblical research. You perspective has helped me tremendously!! 🙏❤️☀️
49:18 I will heartily co-affirm Nate here, Pastor Mike! It is certainly a gift that you've cultivated to a point of being able to clearly connect with real human beings - you do not simply hurl facts at a screen, but have the grace to recognise different circumstances and the complexities of the sinful nature of mankind. We are all in need of the truth of God's Word, His grace to receive and apply it, and the love of Christ to turn us from our ways. You're a part of the body of Christ helping this along - you bring such clarity to these topics and for that I am grateful.
Thank you for this video, to all three of you, and keep on doing what you do. It changes lives in some way or another!
Open doors and voice of the martyrs are two great charities
Seconded so far as I can tell solid and financially responsible
The Old Testament tithe was the support of the Levites and priests who inherited no land
Regarding the remarriage topic, I don't know if this is an outlying situation, but: my dad left my mom like 12 years ago. He remarried. My mom felt convicted to stay committed to her marriage. My dad was tortured by his mistakes over those years, tried to move on and couldn't. Long story short, after hitting rock bottom, had a miraculous vision from God, telling him, among other things, to return to my mom. He didn't want to but did it anyway. They remarried and have never been so at peace and a blessing to others. All the Christians in her life told her to move on and think about herself. Fortunately, she didn't listen to them.
I watched this and I thought these questions were tough. But I praise God for the way He has guided you to speak and the wisdom He has given you.
Some of these questions are officially things I was so nervous about that my girlfriend left me. I am happy to hear that you are soon going to deepdive these.. I don't know where I would be if God did not lead me to Mike..
If she left you due to a season of anxiety then she was not a lifelong partner anyway - which is the whole point of dating.
@@VVeremoose Yea I know. I still feel kinda guilty since I was not that good of a person when we met first. Rn I just try to be as good as possible to her.
@@VVeremoose There is no point in dating.
@@jerico80 false
@@VVeremoose Why is it false?
Mike: Voice of the Martyrs, Open Doors, Samaritan's Purse are all reputable groups helping persecuted Christians - and there are several others!
You are truly a blessing Mike and an inspiration for Christians. Kudos to the couple who did awesome job with putting together interesting and valuable questions. Bless you all.
Sutton in satin 😁 couldn't help myself. Back to the video lol
Do you require a mask at your church? I don't care about anyone else's choices regarding it but I got upset with my church for politicizing the whole issue and started going to a church that doesn't have "rules." People who want to wear masks do and people who don't don't, that's how I always felt Christian spaces should have been.
You are, automatically, in the wrong with that attitude.
1) You are under that law of the land unless it forbids you to do what God has commanded.
2) You are under the elders unless they are heretics.
Neither of those applies to mask wearing so you should submit to those who have authority over you and wear the mask. That is what the bible teaches us.
Then you used your bad theology as an excuse to leave the church where God put you! You are a schismatic and so condemned for that too.
You should repent, go back where you were and act like a proper Christian not a self centered rebel.
I don't agree with lockdown, I don't agree with masks but I do submit to all the authority God has placed over me.
I realise that this is a rebuke, but it is a rebuke in love. I only advise you to do what God has commanded we do.
A few people left our church because we stayed open, because we sing etc etc they too are rebels. We are people under authority, God first, then the Law of man and the Elders.
@@Phill0old i appreciate it brother i have a very rebellious nature & often have trouble reconciling it with my walk with Jesus. I've unfortunately complicated things for myself now so i technically belong to both churches and the pastor of my "new church" will chase me if he doesn't see me. I think God purposefully put me between these two congregations and i am still seeking the truth at both, but i still think things weren't handled in a particularly godly way at my first church. I'm sure this sounds like an excuse to you and i really do appreciate the rebuke, just not sure where i go from here so wanted an outside perspective. Thank you & i mean it a lot 💖
@@ambitionroad Hey we are all rebels, I really struggle with it too. It is hard to submit to fallible men making bad decisions who won't listen to reason. But we serve Christ and he told them to submit to the High Priests even though they were hypocrites, do what they say but not what they do. God's grace is sufficient for us all. God bless, Phil
@@Phill0old Government has no authority to require a person to wear a face covering. God could have used the cowardly church leaders use as a way to get Cat to move to a different church.
@@peterfox7663 You have scripture for that I take it? Of course you don't. If you think they don't then you can make a legal challenge in the courts if you live in a country that allows that. The elders can be ignored as well because you are always right I guess?
It is odd, isn't it, that Paul never told anyone to leave a church only not to associate with grievous sinners?
If only he had had your insight?
His impact is huge. His channel is a blessing for sure.
Mike you are such a blessing to the Kingdom of God.
It's upsetting that my boys have to wear masks for over 8 hours everyday at school. It's not healthy. They wear it longer than me as a dental hygienist and I would leave my nose out! The O² level is decreased and it's harmful to the brain and heart. THEY'RE CHILDREN.
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They’re disgusting little creatures
@Chumnley snoop I'll never stop
1:04:30 - So will we have the free will to sin when we're in heaven, lose our perfect sanctified nature and be cast down into hell? If so, given infinite time in eternity, wouldn't everyone eventually end up in hell?
Or is free will not a necessary component of glorified creatures with the authenic capacity to love God?
People are hungry for the word, seek thee first the Kingdom of God and all these things shall be added unto you
Nathan! I had no idea what you were up to! I thought you were doing something with your brothers. Great to see you. Mike Winger is the BEST!!!
Oh my, now that's a lot of controversial questions..!
Thank you. Homosexual "marriage" is not a marriage that God honors. He never designed it that way. He designed genitalia that goes together between one man and one woman after the covenant of marriage. People need to use their common sense- boy parts and girl parts are "designed" to go together. Blunt, yes, but was people have to be blunt.
Then why did God not only allow but exalt men who had multiple wives and concubines?
King david for instance was extremely blessed. He had hundreds of wives and concubines according to scripture and its not once mentioned as a bad thing.
@@Jstaman Solomon had hundreds of wives and concubines, not David, and clearly when David committed adultery he then murdered to cover his tracks because he knew it was wrong, and it vexed him daily...
@@AdamJoseph1352 david also did to his sin with the adultery was lust after another mans wife. Then murdering him.
2Sam 12:8 talks about how god gave samuels household to david. So God gave king david all of samuels wives. Plus david himself not counting those had 8 of his own. So not one man for one woman. That marriage rule doesnt pop up until the new testament and neither God or Jesus speaks of it.
The original comment argues that genitalia has to go together. In polygamy there is still genitalia that fits together, as long as the husband is interacting separately with each wife. However, polygamy is still portrayed as a bad thing in parts of the Old Testament, even if it wasn’t forbidden. Just look at what a mess Jacob’s family was.
@@nicolepettit5120 yeah but the original post also argues that its between one man and one woman. Which isnt a good or sound argument when you read the bible.
Its like saying homosexuality is immoral.........ok if you think that then you need to describe why heterosexuality is tgen moral. The problem is you cant without creating a contradiction.
This was great...what a sweet couple they are ....you should do this again .
GOD bless and keep you all
Grace and peace
Gilly wife of Mark
I like to think there’s a difference between trust and forgiveness.
I can forgive, I can love, and I can embrace someone after they have sinned. But I will have a tough time trusting them in the future.
Speaking of giving to receive, I’ve always thought it was appropriate that after God does give, we should always give out of that gift and thanks to Gods blessing. For instance, my family was blessed with a large sum, so because we have received, we should now give. Like the opposite of the idea. You receive, therefore you give.
Regarding speaking in tongues I would add that if it's not a true language being spoken, then it's not speaking in tongues. We don't have any example in scriptures where tongues means something else then human language...
@Ananda 1 Cor. 13:1 "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels"
@Miika tmp Well, sure, angels interacting with people on earth are going to speak a human language to those people because they, the angels, need to be understood. That has nothing to do with the gift of tongues. You do bring up an interesting issue from 2 Corinthians 12:4 that in paradise Paul heard "inexpressible words which a man is not permitted to speak." However, to say that those words were angelic language can't
be substantiatd so I don't think it can be used as an argument, particularly because Paul talks about speaking in the language of angels when he talks about tongues.
What is a "true language"? It needs to be translated. That doesn't mean it is an earthly language.
Yes, I don't see babbling nonsense as true tongues at all. The Corinthian church was full of problems of bringing pagan worship into Christ's church. For goodness sake they had people cursing Jesus and saying they were led by the Holy Spirit to do so. The Corinthian churches practices are not what anyone would rely on to base doctrine on especially babbling uttering an ecstatic form of worship brought in from pagan practices
@@kathleens.laroche754 that is a hyperbole used by Paul. He’s not saying angels have their own language ...
My family and I all used to wear masks and we still got covid, so now we don’t wear them. My pediatrician said they are useless 🤣 I don’t care whether people wear them or now and I’m so thankful to live in FL where most people don’t care.
In the U.K. it is the law to wear masks in shops. Therefore, I wear the mask despite its limited effectiveness. However, the vaccine has stopped a third outbreak (so far).
Best direct, short answer about the Sabbath I've heard, possibly ever
WOW. This was so informative and helpful, Mike. Thank you, brother in Christ!
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Pastor Mike I loved your comment on the mask, just to be others centered and not stumble others. It just seems the lovingly thing to do.
I have mask anxiety... I can even go to church without struggling to breathe and crying the whole time. I’ve try different masks and there’s no different. I am anxious and panicked all day Saturday, and it takes all day Sunday to calm down. I feel isolated and alone when I am in a mask or around others in masks. And all I hear from everyone around me is that my anxiety isn’t real or I should just get over it.
@@mavrickglo don't wear one
Stops wearing one. Cloth masks and surgical masks do not stop or slow the spread of covid19 or any respiratory illness with any significance. There are over 40 years of studies that show that masks do not help. Even recent studies done in 2020 and 2021 show that masks are not helping, and some of the studies done show that masks are actually harming people’s physical and mental health.
@@alwaysnwonder What you are saying about masks in patently false. There is abundant and over-whelming scientific evidence that shows that wearing masks does indeed prevent the spread of covid. If you are reading otherwise, you're being duped by conspiracy theories. Wearing a mask is about loving your neighbor. If you are a follower of Jesus, you should care about that.
@@sandersthornburgh127 Sorry but it is you who is deceived. Wearing a mask is harmful to my neighbor and society.
What about voice of the martyrs? Eve got deceived and from a woman's heart there is inability for many to hold the line on something like marriage, as a woman I know this through years of being around them. Women frequently backstab, and undermine and secretly rejoice in others downfall, reality is that eomen have unique issues
we love God is using Mike to teach us. Learn so very much, and enjoy the learning process too. Thank you God
I didn't see this live but it's so awesome to hear from Mike Winger and new to the two of you.... All the way from South Africa, Me and my family say A BIG THANK YOU
I love the “breaking the 4th wall” type intro 😂🔥
Truthfully, I just didn’t want to do my hair to record an intro today. Haha
Regarding the mask: you said something about it being a stumbling block. But isn't that scripture about sinning? I mean wearing a mask or not wearing a mask how is that a stumbling block to someone else that has to do with your Christian walk? If you're talking about people getting angry, you've got people that get angry on both sides of that and you'll never make everyone happy.
The idea is that when choosing to do or not do something on a biblically neutral subject (which masks are), the question is how does doing or not doing affect your ability to minister to others? Will they not listen to you because you wear a mask? Or will they not listen to you because you refuse to wear one?
On obeying or civil disobedience with government authority, I’m coming down on the right answer is how does it affect the people you are called to witness to? That might mean sometimes the mask wearing is the right option, other times it may not be.
I keep hearing the "effective witness" argument on why you should wear a mask but I've yet to see someone sharing the gospel with a mask on.
In my hometown, people make eye contact with others even less with the masking in place.
Pastor Mike Winger is a beast it’s good to see a fearless pastor.
Good to listen to this morning...thanks everyone!
Allie Beth Stuckey did a really good video on females in ministry if anyone would like to check that out. I believe its very biblically sound
Which video?
She's a Calvinist, I don't think anything she does is sound biblically if you believe that stuff
I would be interested too!
I disagree with her on a lot of politics (as a non-american) and don't listen to her regularly. The videos with her about Self-Care/Self-Love are really sound&important. (I haven't read her book - has someone? I would be interested)
Independing of if you share her view before or after, it will be worth listening.
God bless :)
Gabriel
@@gabrielfriedmann2043 you can search female pastors under her name. Not sure what happened to my comment. Im not calvanist, but her vid on females in ministry doesn't have anything to do with that. I just thought it may help some people who are questioning that specific subject.
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These are great questions!! I can’t get enough q&a with Pastor Mike. Thanks for the time stamps 🙏🏼
Thank you for sharing the truth about tithing (or lack of). We are to be generous and cheerful, not under compulsion. It’s not a duty, but a joy and privilege! I give to churches, ministries, you, whoever helps me grow.
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Thanks for posting this, Mike! Excellent info! HUGGZZ & PRAYERS!!!!!!
Really impressed by Nate and Sutton's wisdom! Don't know if you're planning any more collaborations, but looking forward to them if you are.
Mark 2:27 "And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man (anthropinos or mankind), and not man for the Sabbath." Notice that Jesus did not say, "The Sabbath was made for the Jews" or after His resurrection He did not tell the new Christians to NOT keep the seventh day Sabbath. In fact that is what they did.... Its funny how we have no problem with the nine commandments, just the one. What did Jesus say..... "If you break the least of one these you have broken them all." How easy it is to twist some scripture to fit our traditions rather than live by the plain teaching of it all.
I appreciate so much Mike's spirit of grace and His focus on Jesus, valuing His Word and His redemption from sin. But I want to affirm that the blanket statement about the "tutor" being for the Jews, teaching disciplines through the law, only to lead to that law being disregarded doesn't even ground in good sense, and certainly isn't biblical as to the teaching of the perfection and unchanging nature of God.
I would urge Mike to do the in depth biblical research he did on the 7th commandment (where he is SO on point) with the 4th commandment also...trying to keep an open mind to the temptation, as mentioned here, to justify our traditions in our dismissing certain things.
As to the law at Sinai, the school master or tutor part was that it was given externally. The new Covenant is that this "law of the covenant" is now written internally, on our hearts. We do it, not out of compulsion, but out of love.
However, back to basics...sin is still the "transgression of the law"...and being a child of Israel or Abraham isn't about bloodline, but was always about a heart purified through a response of faith in God and His ability to make good in His Word...not of works...from Abraham to today...last any man, Jew or otherwise, should boast.
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath...that's a big affirmation of it...the biggest in fact...and that Lordship and the specific nature of the seventh day of holy rest is seen clearly from Genesis to Revelation...if the Bible is the basis of our understanding.
Much love to Mike, this commenter, and all....
@@scotttimmorton I also appreciate Mike mentioning the Sabbath is Saturday, not Sunday. I can at least see an argument that the Sabbath need not be observed (I disagree with that argument), but cannot see one for considering Sunday to be the Sabbath day.
@@peterfox7663 Yes, Mike's recognition of the obvious that Sunday is not the Sabbath, etc., as you said, Peter, was a relief. And his words about God not wanting things done out of a feeling of compulsion or human dogmatism is so on point.
However, this does not erase God's Word when it gives specifics, or the authority of His commands. It is our sinful rebellion that shapes us to resist authority. But His law and authority are actually amazing...since HE, God Himself, is so good and trustworthy.
Matters like tithe, the Sabbath, being made male or female, health laws spelled out in the Bible, definitions and limitations of church, the non-requirement of the Mosaic laws leading up to Jesus (as distinct from the Ten Commandments that are God's eternal Covenant with His people)...all the precise, detailed things the Lord has, yes, spelled out for us...in dealing in family life, towards the government, in finance, health, business ethics, education, etc. Yes, each word of God is pure, true and endures forever. Even the details! Is this oppressive? Only if we are thinking we have to do it all legalistically. But if we have died to self and thrown our helpless, broken selves on Jesus, then these things are all of His lavish provisions, which HE will work through us, by His grace poured into our lives through the Holy Spirit.
I really appreciate your humble and loving approach to the bible. It’s hard truths that come from a place of love
Such a humble guy you are! God bless you pr Mike!! Giving God praise for you!!!
Mike, oh my gosh! The Ten Commandments were given to ALL mankind, not just the Jews. The Ten Commandments are NOT part of Moses’ 613 ordinances, that were given only to the Jews. The Sabbath was first sanctified (made holy) at creation long before there were any Jews. Jesus NEVER said to worship on Sunday instead of Sabbath. Let’s just follow Jesus and what He did! Let’s follow ALL ten of the commandments, not just nine!
The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Jesus is the Sabbath, not a certain day of the week. Keeping the Sabbath is worshiping the Lord any day or to some every day. We are not judged with respects to a certain day, nor are we judge for not keeping religious festivals. We keep the Sabbath when we set time aside to worship God, wherever whenever. Even with this said, the Lord still calls us to fellowship with our brothers and sisters in Christ.
It is useless to undeceive these 1st day worshippers.
Like you said 10 not 9 .
Easier to deceive them than
convince them they have been deceived .
@@heymichaelc Then why does God say to keep s SPECIFIC day, the seventh day, if He meant any day is the correct day? Where do you get this idea of a floating Sabbath in the bible that you can make it whatever day you want?
That is correct that we are not to judge anyone for keeping religious feasts and festivals, because those were Moses' 613 ordinances. However, we are judged on God's 10 laws including the Sabbath. We are judged on that.
@@aerodave1 Still being nurtured off your mother’s milk I see, needing to be taught all over again, sure your not Jewish? Let me guess you fast twice a week and give a tenth of everything you make. If your piety requires you to observe a certain day, then who am I to judge. As for myself I am free to worship on any day, whenever wherever.
” Therefore, let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.”
I’ll repeat Jesus is the Sabbath all summed up. To those that are living in disobedience there is no Sabbath day or rest that will please God. For true worshipers will worship Him in spirit and truth. We are judge on the moral law, not specials days or specific sabbath days.
@@heymichaelc Jesus, indeed, is the center and meaning of every command of God. "You shall not kill." Jesus is the Life Giver." "Honor your father and mother." Jesus is our Creator and Origin. "You shall not steal." Jesus is our true Provider. Do not bow down and worship carved images. Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the only way to the Father. "You shall have no other gods before Me." Indeed, Jesus is the one and only God of the universe. And, like you have pointed out, Jesus is the essence of Sabbath, to whom we who are weary and heavy laden come for rest in His total and complete sacrifice for our sins.
But what you have added is that, now, every day is the Sabbath. This is not biblical teaching. This is a justification for those who wish to continue with pagan tradition to have worship on the ancient day of the sun, which is a substitute that humans (influenced by an enemy of God who is seeking to overthrow God's government, challenging His laws) have gotten used to doing rather than letting God define which day is for rest and special focus and which is for common gainful work.
God defined it. "The seventh" or, in English, "Saturday" is the biblical Sabbath.
You are right, Jesus is its deeper meaning.
But Jesus also is the One who gave the law and reaffirmed that He is Lord of that particular day...over which, at the end of time, we are to pray to be able to keep, even amid persecution that forces His disciples to flee.
Ugh, the COVID vaccine nonsense LOL I'm with you Mike! STOP.
I admire you so much for speaking truth on the fact that we don’t have to be tithing 10%! Of course we are supposed to give, even when it’s hard. My brother and his wife were missionaries in Cambodia for 25 years. They said that tithing is hardest on the poor and they did not believe in it. It opened our eyes. They were being supported by people’s giving and it would have been more secure for them to go with tithing. We support an orphanage that they personally know the people (Christian Cambodians) running it. Also give to other places like our church.
I was part of an online community (~20-30 people) and at one point I decided to say I was Christian, and that I was worried I might be called homophobic for my beliefs, one of the higher ups there told me essentially “you’d better not think everyone would call you homophobic” (though not it those words) and I think later that day someone argued with my beliefs on homosexuality saying I sound hateful, and that it would be better if I said “I don’t care what you do with your life” than “what you’re doing is a sin” so I argued back stating how homosexuality was a sin as anything else stated as a sin in the Bible was, and that if I truly hated them I wouldn’t care what they did in their life, a few minutes passed and I thought I should clarify once again, I don’t hate gay people, and I was banned
And the whole thing really made me realize I didn’t need it in my life
Yes you’re completely wrong that wearing a mask is more unhealthy for you.
Masks are extremely unhealthy and an indoctrination from a vile government to see how far you will obey a stupid rule.
Masks work so well that covid is still a thing. People who have worn this damned thing for a year died. Keep fooling yourself.
@@JMD621ok. All the studies and scientists of repute who’ve spoken on the topic agree there is no health ill effects, but you keep telling yourself whatever you want.
@@adiblatif yes... because huge swaths of people refused to follow any of the protocols, and no one ever said they were 100%, but they mitigate risk to a large degree.
@@studynot757 and you keep falling into the Technocrat trap. It's been set since the early 1900's.