There's A LOT Happening With Season Of Discovery Right Now.

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  • Season of Discovery has had a lot going on the last week! the new XP is in effect, cataclysm beta is now live, the damage scaling on classes is getting really strong, major DPS healer and tank log changes, the story of season of Discovery so far and so much more. we have a lot to talk about in today's episode and it's a very long one so make sure you get something to eat and drink cuz this is a jam-packed episode. sorry about the slow content lately have been dealing with a lot of IRL stuff and I really do apologize, so much content coming this week I hope you guys are excited!
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  • @kylehintz8139
    @kylehintz8139 3 місяці тому +133

    I think they forgot what SoD was suppose to be about. It wasn't suppose to buff you out of the ass and make you hit for bigger numbers. It was meant to give you other ways to play your class and to bring unused specs in line with specs that were already good.

    • @datolicious4832
      @datolicious4832 3 місяці тому +12

      Exactly! Seems blizzard is lost atm with SoD

    • @brokkrgames2778
      @brokkrgames2778 3 місяці тому +13

      which they did - by buffing some of them out the ass.

    • @philipellis9527
      @philipellis9527 3 місяці тому +2

      Lol wasnt survival an unused spec before p2? Its seems they are doing that too well

    • @fanofcodd
      @fanofcodd 3 місяці тому

      ​@@philipellis9527 melee hunter (berk) is not too DPS since the first week of P2.

    • @matthuckleberry5238
      @matthuckleberry5238 3 місяці тому +12

      They’re trying new things this is the first real classic plus SEASONAL server. People forgot about that…

  • @joe_duck
    @joe_duck 3 місяці тому +33

    They should have 2 raids per phase

    • @ffarkasm
      @ffarkasm 3 місяці тому

      Not confirmed but rumors say, that in P3 we will have that.
      It is already confirmed that we will have a 20 men raid in P3, but it is unknow which duneon it will be. Possibly a brand new one, not a rewamped, like BFD or Gnomeregan. Maybe Karahzan Crypts? Maybe a brand new wing of SM? We'll see.
      Not confirmed, but data mining suggests that Sunken Temple will appear as a 10 men raid.
      So at the moment it seems we will have a 10 men ST and an unknown 20 men raid.

    • @Nightstand320
      @Nightstand320 3 місяці тому +6

      Yeah. One super fucking hard one. And one like they do now.

    • @joe_duck
      @joe_duck 3 місяці тому

      @@Nightstand320 I’m okay with that

  • @valor2746
    @valor2746 3 місяці тому +48

    Id like to see an increase in reputation gained in BGs. The fact that you get more reputation from never doing the related battlegrounds is wild to me.

    • @goseals6
      @goseals6 3 місяці тому +2

      I agree. AB rep is atrocious to get if you aren't doing STV for the logs. WSG is even worse, but is a bit better with Ashenvale if it didn't stop at revered. Waylaid supplies drop rates seem to be extremely low at 40. I got quite a few leveling up but even after I went back to knock out the lower level quests for cash I don't think I ever saw a box drop from level 30-37 mobs.

    • @BlazeHN
      @BlazeHN 3 місяці тому +4

      THIS. Farming rep to 21,000 for revered when you only get 33 honor (as a solo queuer) for a 20+ minutes BG, and sometimes 100 when not facing premades/lucky and 1000 weekly with drums quest feels horrible, don't even know if I'll make it. And if you think about alt accounts that feels totally out of question to farm that massive amount of rep so slowly on alt accounts too. Something need to be done on that regard.

    • @MrOnePieceRuffy
      @MrOnePieceRuffy 3 місяці тому

      as someone who spared all his coins i gained as a FERAL Druid (it's still not 1 Gold btw!!) but played alot of AB and is only missing 8k to exaulted, I don't think it's "too hard", but.. the last point of your argument, is actually an argument i've to agree on

    • @constantinosavraam6657
      @constantinosavraam6657 3 місяці тому +1

      must be Horde player. @@MrOnePieceRuffy

    • @MrOnePieceRuffy
      @MrOnePieceRuffy 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@constantinosavraam6657fair point. I never started an Alliance Character, i forgot for a moment, that was even an option.
      For the Horde

  • @RosarioAFK
    @RosarioAFK 3 місяці тому +10

    As a rogue main, I have been saying that we should get a New Poison that applies one stack of Sunder Armor on the enemy; that Stacks with Warrior Sunder Armor!
    It would let Rogue bring utility without hurting our DPS.
    Also, it could be cool if they changed how Redirect works as personally I never get an opportunity to use it. MAYBE if it was a 30s buff on yourself to store Combo Points on the rogue, not on the enemy's. Would help when switching to kill adds or eggs on boss fights.

    • @fredrikaxelson8079
      @fredrikaxelson8079 3 місяці тому

      Homunculi would cover it anyhow, and personal redirect would be insanity in pvp :(

    • @jamespadgett8660
      @jamespadgett8660 3 місяці тому +1

      Give us an aura that increases attack speed or something.

    • @goat2601
      @goat2601 3 місяці тому

      The problem with any poison-based utility is it'll hurt deadly brew in some sense, and I'm not confident Blizzard will account for that. Still, some kind of physical + 1 element damage modifier poisons would be fun and add interesting choices.

    • @RosarioAFK
      @RosarioAFK 3 місяці тому

      If Rogue can't be top DPS, they probably should be top in pvp..

    • @AaronSAllison
      @AaronSAllison 3 місяці тому +1

      I feel like most of our runes suck, just alot of crap the leaves us little choice.

  • @FALCORTON
    @FALCORTON 3 місяці тому +46

    As a protection warrior tank - It's kind of upsetting to see my 5 stacks of Sunder Armor, and demoralizing shout and thunderclap cancelled out by an Instant cast homonculi as far as utility to a raid.

    • @FALCORTON
      @FALCORTON 3 місяці тому +15

      I find it extra silly that all 3 of the homunculi debuffs are better then the warriors'.

    • @TheOneTrueFett
      @TheOneTrueFett 3 місяці тому +7

      We've been replaced and left in the gutter

    • @aoex
      @aoex 3 місяці тому

      Doesn't it stack?
      And homunculi has a cooldown sunder and demo shout dont

    • @TheOneTrueFett
      @TheOneTrueFett 3 місяці тому +6

      @aoex the priest debuffs are better than the warrior debuffs, they last as long as the homonculi are alive, and they do not stack with warrior debuffs.

    • @Blue.Diesel
      @Blue.Diesel 3 місяці тому +5

      This really is "Season of hating on warriors".
      Warriors are worst in every single aspect (Maybe they are ok in pve with a team customized around them with WF, WBs, and Bis)

  • @am4849
    @am4849 3 місяці тому +11

    My suggestion to solve the raid issue with leaving classes out that dont fit the current meta....if a raid has atleast 1 of each class they get a buff or an extra piece of loot per boss.

    • @evildark940
      @evildark940 3 місяці тому +1

      LOVE THAT

    • @ZugzugZugzugson
      @ZugzugZugzugson 3 місяці тому

      no because now you're suddenly being punished for bringing a duplicate class to a raid which would result in gatekeeping.
      "no sorry bro, already have mage, need [x] for class bonus"

    • @Lacosanostra699
      @Lacosanostra699 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ZugzugZugzugson that already happens but because "class bad no take"

    • @ZugzugZugzugson
      @ZugzugZugzugson 3 місяці тому

      @@Lacosanostra699 so your solution to this gatekeeping (class stacking) is to gatekeep the other way around by forcing someone who might not want to take a rogue to have to take a rogue.
      bad take.
      fix the classes that are struggling instead.

  • @TheMetalIsNeon
    @TheMetalIsNeon 3 місяці тому +7

    I grinded out my WSG wrists as a Warlock Tank and the amount of damage that Shamans put out is actually completely insane right now. I had to spec into demonology for Soul Link just to not get 1 shot by them, and even then they still messed me up. I know they are supposed to be super bursty in damage but I feel it needs to be toned back a bit when I get one shot by a lava burst chain lighting cast as a tank lock.

    • @tatedoh
      @tatedoh 3 місяці тому +1

      Buff shamans , nerf warlocks

    • @anotherhuman21
      @anotherhuman21 3 місяці тому +2

      I can kill em on my pally but getting hit for 80% of my 2.5k+ hp in one shot by a ranged chain lightning is wild.

    • @glenglen6386
      @glenglen6386 3 місяці тому

      But you spank most other not so bursty by running in their face health draining. Only right that a counter exists to energy vampire batman.

    • @TheMetalIsNeon
      @TheMetalIsNeon 3 місяці тому

      @glenglen6386 If it was just that they were strong against lock tanks alone I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it, Paladins are very good against Lock Tanks for instance. My point is to illustrate the raw damage they put out, which makes it oppresive for every other class they fight.

    • @tatedoh
      @tatedoh 3 місяці тому

      @@TheMetalIsNeon shaman doesn’t have any CC nor gap closers, so when they get on target they should output lots of damage. More than a warrior, that has charge / fear / charge stun. Pally has a hard stun / incap cc. Rogue has loads of cc , warlocks have fear , succ that heals them immensely and let’s them win most 1v1s. A good mage / hunter / warlock / boomkin should demolish an enhancement shaman.

  • @blitzme99
    @blitzme99 3 місяці тому +17

    as an arcane mage, I come in about 5th in DPS and 2nd in healing. I am a highly coveted member of any raid. For the jerks in the comments section, we killed all the bosses on the first try. I was assigned to MT healing

    • @TheComebackKids
      @TheComebackKids  3 місяці тому +1

      That’s true

    • @blitzme99
      @blitzme99 3 місяці тому +12

      @@rook6591 lol. I wouldn't need wow if I could do that. I'm just trying to give the author some context as to why it's ok for arcane mages to be this low on the dps charts. We have a lot of utility.

    • @H41030v3rki110ny0u
      @H41030v3rki110ny0u 3 місяці тому

      @@blitzme99 yeah man, awesome hybrid spec.. idk if you have ever played HOTS but seems similar to Whitemane maybe

    • @Madlux14
      @Madlux14 3 місяці тому +8

      So you're second last in dps and last in healing, got it lol😅

    • @blitzme99
      @blitzme99 3 місяці тому +2

      Name another class that does that, and Can I have your user name in wow so I can make sure to never run with you?@@Madlux14

  • @WDannyboy
    @WDannyboy 3 місяці тому +5

    the problem with feral cat and bear is scaling. They simply dont scale at all because all gear just gets converted to stats. The more gear they get doesn't really translate to more damage like other melee. Weapons not counting is the main problem. It will only get worse, its not a case of getting key items. They would need support in the form of either weapon scaling or massive item changes to make them viable. In cats case, a massive reduction in mana cost to forms would greatly help with powershifting. They only implemented half of King of the Jungle from Wotlk blizzard forgot about the other half of that rune.

    • @heroofhyrule9778
      @heroofhyrule9778 3 місяці тому

      The good news is this is easy for them to tune when they get around to it - also the one thing your wrong is of course armor and stamina on bear scales incredibly well - but yes bear has always had threat issues until 60+ so hopefully they will do this for yall

    • @spankmymoomoo
      @spankmymoomoo 3 місяці тому

      getting shafted by having wolfshead helm not available in the phase it would be by far the strongest, tank rune and windfury rune sharing a slot so that you have to choose whether to actually use the tank rune or give your team WF, leg tank rune only being skullbash which shares a cooldown with charge, mangle and lacerate sharing a slot.
      an EXTRA kick in the teeth related to the wolfshead missing is that the LWing hat is so RIDICULOUSLY higher power than the next available option. the BiS outside of being leatherworker is a green world drop. At least phase 1 there were decent glove options that dropped in raid that meant you weren't too far behind LWing. being punished for not being a LWer when part of the mantra is to be able to play your way and i'm loving being alch/herb. I'm having fun with SoD, but the devs spend so little time actually holistically looking at things. it's driving me nuts.

  • @Martosbdk
    @Martosbdk 3 місяці тому +11

    The exp and gold buff is very nice. However, building up rep is pretty hard now. Quests go into gray status pretty fast and reward very low rep (like 15 rep vs 250 rep). Blizzard should add the change that even gray quests still reward the amount of rep you would get from a green status quest.

    • @ZugzugZugzugson
      @ZugzugZugzugson 3 місяці тому

      bro just buy a bit more runecloth, we're gonna be swimming in it.

  • @sanditos6757
    @sanditos6757 3 місяці тому +11

    It feels like feral dps is getting punished for being good during phase 1. Every week it drops lower and lower yet no buffs.

    • @Mcbuggler
      @Mcbuggler 3 місяці тому

      same with ranged hunter.

    • @shadyc7044
      @shadyc7044 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, Druids in general. You should see some YT comments i get. "Druids suck atm and you deserve it, and I hope you continue to get what you deserve!"

    • @yScribblezHD
      @yScribblezHD 3 місяці тому +3

      How much does that matter though since you're probably still guaranteed a spot in raid. Factor in how much dmg you provide for a raid rather than personal dmg and I'm pretty sure ferals are nuts.

    • @heroofhyrule9778
      @heroofhyrule9778 3 місяці тому

      @@yScribblezHD yeah and MotW is very good in gnomer - also by drops lower and lower I assume the original comment means that rogue and warriors are getting weapons - DRUIDS while I love them have a habit of pretending that they shouldnt be hybrid taxed - a good druid shines by providing flexibility for the situation - but the vocal minority are noobs who keep pounding a square on a star-shaped hole "muh dps" "muh healing kit" ... bleh. These nagas really expected to get like 3x more runes than everyone else i swear sometimes

    • @jattmonsoongaming
      @jattmonsoongaming 3 місяці тому

      *rogues and warriors have entered the chat*
      at least you have a guaranteed spot in a raid, and even if you do care about parsing, you're only competing against other ferals

  • @claytongiampaolo7848
    @claytongiampaolo7848 3 місяці тому +6

    6:44 "right now its very unbalanced" its been like that since day one, they cant balance anything with these runes.

  • @Blinkurz
    @Blinkurz 3 місяці тому +3

    Can we PLEASE get Target Dummies in IF/Org? With parsing and logs being such a determining factor for playstyle in SoD/ERA it would be nice to have a Target Dummy to practice on.

    • @ZugzugZugzugson
      @ZugzugZugzugson 3 місяці тому

      there are target dummies but you gotta go to shimmering flats in thousand needles for them XD

  • @drewlad3626
    @drewlad3626 3 місяці тому +4

    20:15 imagine the final boss is an arena brawl with shadow versions of ourselves in the karazhan crypts

    • @TheCODMW2pwner
      @TheCODMW2pwner 3 місяці тому

      we'd all get 1 shot if an ai played our characters against us

  • @justinmccarthy832
    @justinmccarthy832 3 місяці тому +4

    I think Xal'atath will need our help to collect a sample from C'thun because I think that's the last piece she needs. Might craft us some weapons to collect samples

  • @lugano_wow
    @lugano_wow 3 місяці тому +3

    As a prot pally, we have ONE rune that we "can" use (none use aegis because martyr, horn and even DS are better) that gives some sort of mitigation (taunt rune gives mitigation when low hp) and we dont have any CD to reduce incoming dmg, only skip skippable mechanics. Block is bad as direct dmg reduction (str scaling is bad 20-1 and low block rating from items and from defense) but is good for reducing crits to happen (but we still dont have enough avoidance).
    In the end, other tanks have crit immunity without high defense, got a huge armor multiplier while plate gear have reduced stats for the budget that armor takes.

    • @bleeditsays
      @bleeditsays 3 місяці тому

      yeah sky doesnt know much about pallys. ret is in a horrible spot only reason raid dps is climbing is Rets running a wep with .01 drop rate and SoM 5% buff

    • @CheechurBhungholio
      @CheechurBhungholio 3 місяці тому

      Yeah i was looking for a comment like this as i feel like i get hit like a truck as prot even with using all the defensive talents early on in the prot tree and good gear. Even once full bis i feel like i wont survive without a ton of consumes

    • @anotherhuman21
      @anotherhuman21 3 місяці тому +1

      Shockadin tank is fun but it takes good gear and doesn't feel right going dps build to tank like in p1 ret tanking/tanking in general was a joke now it's just slightly less a joke but pallys and war tanks have little to no decent mitigation builds that can also hold threat.
      I solo tank as a shock pally.

  • @PunkteGaming
    @PunkteGaming 3 місяці тому

    Few things.
    Warlock Tank can scale their survivability and threat creation almost infinitely.
    If your group is pumping, you can always go into 10% crit rune instead of drain life dot (for survability), and just incin on cd and spam searing pains on all targets.
    If you need extra healing survability, you can always go Drain Life rune and use that to help support yourself.
    If you need extra tankiness/survability, you can pair the 10% crit rune with the 2 dodge runes which basically give you an 80% dodge chance for 5 seconds (every 15 seconds), and then baseline 30-35% dodge chance aside from that. You can maintain a baseline 35% forever with the 80% every 5 seconds inside of that, but you lose alot of threat creation.
    It's very easy to get to a setup where you have 7000 armor, 3-3.5k health, and 35% baseline dodge chance, making you unbelievably tanky.
    There is essentially NO reason to ever go deep into demonology. You lose SO much threat potential from ruin/crit talents that also end up boosting up your dodge chance as well.
    Meta Locks have like 5-6 different builds they can go from just runes alone so it makes it a reaally cool way to adapt to your group setting/scenarios on the fly.
    You can also get to a point where your absolutely pumping as much damage as you can on single targets.
    Or even where you pick up corruption talents and lose some fire damage, and keep corruption on all targets while refreshing them with SP spams for alot of multi (boss) threat/damage (like for menagerie).

  • @Cebreuss
    @Cebreuss 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for taking out the time to shout out my comment dude!
    I'm really curious as to what they're planning with Xalatath, and more importantly I wonder about how she will be tied in to the end of the season. The devs mentioned in earlier interviews that they're thinking of a "cool and fun place for us to go once the season is done" , I've gotta wonder if they're going to find a way to tie our characters into the next expansion, maybe as pawns of the void?

  • @Nownadda
    @Nownadda 3 місяці тому +5

    What is kinda busted is the fact that as a shaman tank I’m pulling 800dps (shockanawe) and the next highest in the guild is maybe 650. Is it fun yes, but does it make sense, no. They need to stop buffing shit and making these new tunes scales so badly. PvP is a joke, and the fact that my group and guild clears Gnomer in 20-25 mins is depressing.

    • @t9t9t9t9t9
      @t9t9t9t9t9 3 місяці тому +1

      Post logs of your 20 min clears, not buying this

  • @Dansedrengen
    @Dansedrengen 3 місяці тому +3

    Our inflated number in damage is one of the reasons I suggested to Blizz to downsize the lvl 60 raids. i.e. 40 man to 20 man and 20 man to 10 man. Also as a warrior main I have always loved dungeoneering and to tank them. I was fully aware it was a struggle in Vanilla to tank as warrior but the runes in SoD gave me hope. However, after 1.5 phase its still a struggle and here is the things I have observed. DPS has inflated numbers, like the rest of us, and they have a retail-like mentality. What I mean by that?: When I start my pull, less than 1 sec after, dps is hammering away and I have no chance to build aggro nor rage. Giving me no chance to gather everything up again. I suggested to Blizz to give Defensive Stance more threat generation when using shield.

    • @Byturr
      @Byturr 3 місяці тому

      Warrior were the only viable tank in vanilla ... Soooooo ....
      DPS need to learn there not on retail and need to wait before DPS ...

    • @glenglen6386
      @glenglen6386 3 місяці тому

      Fury/prot warrior was the only viable raid tank.

  • @Cynsham
    @Cynsham 3 місяці тому +5

    Feral dps needs some buffs, they do less dps than rogues but they at least have great utility with wild strikes.

    • @Blue.Diesel
      @Blue.Diesel 3 місяці тому

      Yepp, warriors also needs some kind of tweak.
      Without wild strikes in your party, raids are borderline unplayable.

    • @drunktomcruise8224
      @drunktomcruise8224 3 місяці тому

      Good, rogues should always do more dps than the jack of all trades Druid.

  • @josetoral1433
    @josetoral1433 3 місяці тому +2

    I really like the STV event but since I’m done with the coin items it kinda kills the incentive to go back in, it would be cool if for every 100 copper we can buy a chest that has random trade goods or even a on use items that increase magic find type buff. Humanoid mobs would drop more cloth,silver, BoEs and herb/mine/skinning would give more mats.

  • @izerathh
    @izerathh 3 місяці тому +24

    Can you spare a crumb of buff for my rogue sir… plz boss… plz

  • @chrisacker499
    @chrisacker499 3 місяці тому +2

    Bears could use Thrash. Great aoe threat and solid damage. Or maybe learn more into combining them with balance like with Sun Fire. Allow them to fire off thorns to enemies in a 10 yard radius or the like. The animation for the snake trap dot application or the altered version of thorns in cata could even be used.
    Then just fix the placement of the abilities on the glyphs. Why this hasn't already been addressed is something that just baffles me. It is such a simple-seeming solution to a major problem with a spec. I don't even play a druid and this irritates me.

  • @chrisacker499
    @chrisacker499 3 місяці тому +1

    Tank Rogues could use a glyph that alters stealth. Instead of making them harder to see, maybe it makes them harder to hit? While in "insert fancy stealth-stance type name here" your threat is increased by X, your dodge is increased by X, and your health is increased by X while your dps is decreased by X." Call it Enshroud or something. It replaces basic stealth, it alters Vanish to give you a threat boost, maybe an aoe-type threat ability like challenging roar/shout. Add Smoke Bomb to tank rogue's toolkit.
    Also, give them a poison aoe option. Poison Vial or something. They throw the poison at a targeted location, it explodes, poisoning the mobs in a radius. Adds a high-threat dot, maybe works like a weaker version of thunderclap and/or demo shout.

  • @janhst97
    @janhst97 3 місяці тому +54

    Shamans are so balanced in bg‘s.. they take 0 dmg and oneshot ppl

    • @TheComebackKids
      @TheComebackKids  3 місяці тому +3

      lol

    • @yusufmertsenturk1895
      @yusufmertsenturk1895 3 місяці тому +14

      This is literally the biggest problem of sod now. And its done on purpose because horde players are normally not as good and lose all bgs so blizzard buffs them. It is totally unfair to alliance players ofc, but commentators who are huge blizzard suck ups like the kids on this channel ignore it and try to swipe it under the carpet.

    • @EvilChiId
      @EvilChiId 3 місяці тому +12

      ​​@@yusufmertsenturk1895if Horde isn't good at PvP why does Alliance have to have entire raids just to gang?

    • @yusufmertsenturk1895
      @yusufmertsenturk1895 3 місяці тому +8

      Open world pvp and your personal experience is entirely irrelevant. I personally never saw an ally raid to kill horde on my server. The reality is when shaman and palladin are balanced, horde loses almost all bgs. So blizzard makes shammies do 2x damage paladins do, 1.5x damage of other top classes. Thats the only way they enable horde win and its pitiful.

    • @SnowToadStudios
      @SnowToadStudios 3 місяці тому +18

      @@yusufmertsenturk1895 Looks like you ordered your Turtle Bisque extra salty today.

  • @MrOnePieceRuffy
    @MrOnePieceRuffy 3 місяці тому

    Our Group also does Gnomeregan with Solo Heal Priest and Solo Shaman Tank. We also have a Shadow Priest tbf.

  • @nekokiki4002
    @nekokiki4002 3 місяці тому +1

    What if Xal'atath will have an event connected with SoD and Retail where both versions of the game have to work towards a common goal or against each other, and it having an impact in both games as we go or at the end of the event

  • @lennic
    @lennic 3 місяці тому

    Thoughts about giving Skinning/Herbalism/Mining a soulbound item (item requires 225 of a proffesion too to use for instance too) that drops rarely from their respective gathers that perhaps gives a small buff like +1% crit or +10 (stacking) stamina, or maybe a consumable like whipper tuber root.
    Honestly anything at all to make people want to actually use fun proffesion combos that make sense

  • @nebulakh5739
    @nebulakh5739 3 місяці тому +4

    Here to thank you for your very nice edited news videos for SoD. Helping a lot for keeping up with current states of the game.

  • @therealmoto3676
    @therealmoto3676 3 місяці тому

    thatas a great idea, a wayleid supply crate when complete your first dungeon of the week!

  • @Anubiszz512zz
    @Anubiszz512zz 3 місяці тому +1

    Yeah scaling is an issue, one we have all been talking about since we saw the loot in bfd. But I'm getting no where close to a 5000 damage crit. And being a warrior if they buff all boss armor like it was here in gnomer I might reroll. I don't play lock but from what I understand chaos bolt is an outlier. Maybe instead of nerfing everyone we can just start with that ability?

  • @Anubiszz512zz
    @Anubiszz512zz 3 місяці тому

    And wow that guild quest idea is awesome. I'd love that.

  • @terrodar19
    @terrodar19 3 місяці тому

    Thats what worried me the most before launch of SoD, the damage. i mean, in theory they could easily reduce ALL dmg right?? And adjust mobs/dungeons accordingly?

  • @Ardell_Drelzexian
    @Ardell_Drelzexian 3 місяці тому

    I gotta say my favorite part about warlock tank is that you can clear gnomeregan with all 3 specs.

  • @Aybo1000
    @Aybo1000 3 місяці тому

    Thoughts on faction transfer? If they still keep the sides locked for balance

  • @chrisc92346
    @chrisc92346 3 місяці тому

    For the next phase, To help leveling Alts, I think after your first 50 your account gets an exp buff. Instead of randomly implementing the exp buff

  • @Shenaniganer
    @Shenaniganer 3 місяці тому +1

    17:16 I've been waiting for that! lol Hopefully the dev's do something! Thanks!

  • @MorrowProduction
    @MorrowProduction 3 місяці тому

    As a fresh 40 ranged/BM hunter I was pulling 300-400 dps in gnomer, mostly in my BFD gear and the PVP bow from BM.

  • @TheratMr8
    @TheratMr8 3 місяці тому

    What website do you use for the dps rankings?

  • @peterc2672
    @peterc2672 3 місяці тому

    Warlocks have a dodge build that I use when I need to be a bit tankier. My dodge hits 80% for 5 seconds every 20 seconds. Pretty nice.

  • @herrpdurrp
    @herrpdurrp 3 місяці тому

    Good to see woiyers are on the up

  • @NotSoSvenn
    @NotSoSvenn 3 місяці тому +1

    Runes should all have HP on them. Easy way for blizzard to control how much HP each class gets.

  • @SolheimGaming
    @SolheimGaming 3 місяці тому +1

    Love this video, Sky!

  • @girthpapi
    @girthpapi 3 місяці тому +4

    If you all stop crying when clearly overpowered stuff gets nerfed, maybe Blizzard will be more inclined to actually balance the game. The idea that you should only buff things up to compete with the best stuff is part of how we get here, it's a terrible way to balance and so many players ask for games to be balanced this way. Brain rot.
    On top of all this the gear is just way too good already. We knew this would be a problem, but it seems like the power creep is happening way faster than anyone expected, Blizzard needs to come up with a better way to address this beyond just "passively give everyone huge health pools in pvp".

  • @de_bedframe
    @de_bedframe 3 місяці тому

    Regarding waylaid supplies and rep with horde logistics or alliance commerce authority, what about some dailies/weekly quests that are timed and require you to go and “deliver” certain supplies to very specific places in Azeroth. For example picking up a quest in Stormwind and having to trek your way to the raceway in Shimmering Flats without flight paths or teleports.

  • @johanwillhoite6957
    @johanwillhoite6957 3 місяці тому

    Love the content. One thing I would suggest for guild content and just overall coolness would be to make a guild hall. Another one would be to have guilds buy a spare bedroom for the hall. That way each player can have a room. Also a quest board with a bunch of random quests that can be repeatable. Like send u to dung. Gather mats for new foods and fishing stuff.

  • @TULINIUMGAMES
    @TULINIUMGAMES 3 місяці тому

    I am so glad you mention the complexity and lack of feral druid damage!
    I am so frustrated that feral druid have so much they need to consider during their damage rotation, and not seeing the reward from excuting it well.
    I love that it is complex = fun and chalanging. It is just lowsy that it does not pay off.
    I would velcome a buff to druid bleed effects, as it is very thematic, and will not break pvp bursts.
    One thought is to increase bleed effects applied during tigers fury a 100% increased damage.
    This would reward the skillfull player, and not yield crasy pvp bursts

  • @usurperx7111
    @usurperx7111 3 місяці тому

    Resto druids coming in and just wildin' out Wild growths gotta be the most chill play style ever

  • @Joe_Musashi
    @Joe_Musashi 3 місяці тому

    What is that add-on you have that shows both your character and the NPC in a big frame like that?

  • @danielray5511
    @danielray5511 3 місяці тому

    Tank rogues have to run 3 runes (rolling with the punches, just a flesh wound, and blade dance) to obtain the effects of way of earth. Tank rogues then need to generate combo points to use blade dance and dodge or parry 5 attacks to proc rolling with the punches. All tank shamans have to do to achieve the same benefits is put the rune on and have rockbiter.

  • @Poppydagoblin
    @Poppydagoblin 3 місяці тому

    Would love to see a rune for shield block. "Double the duration, number of attacks blocked, doubles the damage blocked, and reflects the damage blocked back at the attacker."

  • @IMForeman27
    @IMForeman27 3 місяці тому

    Never played Cata back in the day, but looking forward to it, want to keep my druid's story going. The zones look cool, my guild is excited to do the raids.

  • @Libbydd1
    @Libbydd1 3 місяці тому

    The only " buff" resto sham got was normalized sham rage. Not convinced it was more than a convenience change. Taking e shield is trolling unless you are killing very fast

  • @anthonyflener8931
    @anthonyflener8931 3 місяці тому

    I love Cata it was as soild xpac, people just remembers the end of it.

  • @lukec413
    @lukec413 3 місяці тому

    Also warrior is legit the only rank who doesn’t have threat multipliers unless you go prot and doing that might as well not tank because you won’t do enough damage to hold threat. Well said and extremely accurate in constantly barely holding threat and I’m blasting

  • @AbracaDanielll
    @AbracaDanielll 3 місяці тому

    There needs to be a /unalive so when multiple giant meatballs are being launched towards me I can use it to save some time.

  • @GameCrunchDaily
    @GameCrunchDaily 3 місяці тому +1

    Thats a great point about Shaman doing too much damage, personally I think they should nerf Hunter to fix that problem.

  • @geofft7664
    @geofft7664 3 місяці тому

    that final comment there sounds a lot like the thunderfury quest

  • @christopherkatsafaros6878
    @christopherkatsafaros6878 3 місяці тому

    Imo you can’t nerf enhancement because like you said some of these classes hit so hard and as a tank I need to be doing some decent damage to keep threat. When I have to put a shield on threat becomes an issue for sure! Idk do you guys feel the same way?

  • @TheLazyGreek
    @TheLazyGreek 3 місяці тому +2

    Warriors are having threat problems (I main a tank warrior) because you have classes criting for 3k plus at this level that were always threat stealer’s (think warlock)

    • @Feibie
      @Feibie 3 місяці тому

      Yeah I have this issue too, without alpha I have to pop a rage potion to start an encounter to ensure I'm going to maintain threat because dps just can't help themselves lol

    • @compulsive_curiosity
      @compulsive_curiosity 3 місяці тому

      And no one focuses targets at all, the players got no structure and juat run around blasting like kids on a soccer field chasing the ball. Maybe fun, but it isn't great

  • @Latro
    @Latro 3 місяці тому

    Taken a bit of a step back this phase and same goes for most people i play with, just dont think it hit the same but hopefully next phase will be solid

  • @fanofcodd
    @fanofcodd 3 місяці тому +1

    Flat damage reduction or more stamina will just make op classes more op and meme class even more meme-ier.

    • @claytongiampaolo7848
      @claytongiampaolo7848 3 місяці тому

      You're exactly right, it would make weaker classes feel worse.

  • @fedordorgushi2188
    @fedordorgushi2188 3 місяці тому +2

    Very well put together video. At first glance i thought this would be a low effort bait video like hundreds of others, but you can tell you def give a shit and put effort in. Earned a sub.

  • @blancotonto380
    @blancotonto380 3 місяці тому

    I guess a feral could do the last stretch skip to menagerie. Stealthing across all the mobs and pulling the lever allowing us to skip trash. Pog distracts and strategic saps. People just aren't used to playing with good rogues.

  • @ryanpellegrini1023
    @ryanpellegrini1023 3 місяці тому

    I'd love to see the Boomkin rune changed from a 15% insta heal proc to a flat every 10 wreaths cast you get an insta heal. I think this would be fun for both PvP and PvE. The while Restokin hybrid heal spec is a ton of fun just to RNG to be consistent. With the flat casts into an insta heal you could plan out your healing rotation

  • @johanlahti84
    @johanlahti84 3 місяці тому +6

    Feral dps *cough*

  • @BSwitchGTG
    @BSwitchGTG 3 місяці тому

    Cata was when my interest in the game started slipping originally. After big wins with the first three versions, Cata destroying the old world was what made me first want Classic. Now, since we have SoD and Era, I'm not as concerned about losing the old world. I'm not at all going to play it as hard as I played the other Classic versions, but there's some solid gameplay in that version. I'm excited to try the unique talent trees in Cata - this was the single expansion that had this version of the trees, and it's a different experience. There'll be some good, and some nostalgia for sure. Not expecting it to suck me in, but who knows...

  • @keblin86
    @keblin86 3 місяці тому

    They should just make a custom section in the skills tab that has all the utility stuff needed that all classes can choose 1 or 2 from so that every single class is then viable in the raid and people can play what class they want then

  • @chrisacker499
    @chrisacker499 3 місяці тому

    Prot warriors could use something like Shockwave and Blood and Thunder. Shockwave is great snap aoe threat, control, and damage. Blood and Thunder is that talent that applies rend to all enemies affected by your TC. Revenge needs its extra target added and its damage boosted. Shield Slam needs a major boost to its damage.

  • @funkyshade
    @funkyshade 3 місяці тому

    I think in the end what’s disappointing about SoD is that in phase 1, it felt like a new experience. But in phase 2, people are realizing it’s just classic WoW, with the same old dungeons, cities and classes (with slightly new abilities). Been there, done that. There’s barely any new content.

  • @wheeze9378
    @wheeze9378 3 місяці тому +1

    I rly hope that Warrior tanks with 1hand + shield will be the best tank at endgame!! I LOVE that class fantasy. :) Dont want another round of having to dual wield tank every single raid.

  • @vincentmangeaux9419
    @vincentmangeaux9419 3 місяці тому

    We did a paladin solo heal of gnomer by accident and it was dope

  • @newspin2477
    @newspin2477 3 місяці тому +1

    Warriors can MT in Fury for now and it's fine....it sucks to not have improved shield block but that's the only downside because somehow warriors have now become the only tanks that aren't crit immune so spike damage can be a problem. I doubt there's many warriors tanking in prot.
    Even with a shield you're better off in Fury than Prot atm IMO based on personal experience... I have tanked in both specs and the threat just isn't there in Prot if you have melee dps parsing high.

    • @Feibie
      @Feibie 3 місяці тому

      I have to tank in prot because improved block is like required for menagerie for me. I could tank in arms for other bosses. Eating regular 800+ crits is nasty.

    • @newspin2477
      @newspin2477 3 місяці тому

      @@Feibie I feel you there. Being the only tank class that doesn't get free crit immunity feels bad. The spikes in there get rough.

  • @geofft7664
    @geofft7664 3 місяці тому

    all the lvl 60 pre raid dungeons will have to be revamped as well as the lvl 60 raids based on the stats coming from this lvl 40 gear

  • @yolover111
    @yolover111 3 місяці тому +4

    all we wanted was some new skills from tbc and wrath mixed into classic, 2 raids per phase, NEW dungeons my god, NEW quest and i mean more than what we got, and new BGs that actually promoted world pvp in a good way. once we hit 60 all they gotta do is add a few more left out stuff and spice up existing ones. blizz dont want to work more so makes sense, damn I was hopeful too

  • @p-chan3319
    @p-chan3319 3 місяці тому

    On warlock tanking: i am pretty sure this is straight up destruction (Ruin) with Metamorphosis rune and not Demonology warlock. I juste wrongly shows as Demono in warcraft logs. JFYI. The only place where i have seen Full demono sith Soul Link is in pvp.

  • @drschonify
    @drschonify 3 місяці тому

    I would think if Warrior and Rogue are being ignored for invites they utility of shaman/druid might drop. I mean who needs their buff if not Warrior/Rogue? Shaman is performing well but will that mean kitties start to fall off more too?

  • @andrew2616
    @andrew2616 3 місяці тому

    The leveling changes are great. They allow for a much casual play style without having to grind endlessly for multiple alts. I think the damage output will be ok because even though the numbers are high, some players are still struggling in Gnomer (which is good because this means its challenging for the average player base). I do think that the extremely skilled groups will notice the damage output significantly because they will have better coordination and performance which highlights damage output the most. However, if Blizzard does start to "change" the game based off the skilled player base then a repeat of whats occurring in retail will occur in SoD (refer to the forum post on Retail from Dobi mythic raiding guild).

    • @TheComebackKids
      @TheComebackKids  3 місяці тому

      I agree

    • @RandySnarsh
      @RandySnarsh 3 місяці тому

      They should just add dungeon finder. That would solve so many problems and we dont live in 2005 anymore anyways.

    • @akhsdenlew1861
      @akhsdenlew1861 3 місяці тому

      @@RandySnarsh we dont need dungeon finder.. lol
      U farm 1-2 pre bis in SM while leveling and then u never go again.

  • @HimuraKenshin119
    @HimuraKenshin119 3 місяці тому

    The shadowy figure is gonna bring the end of SOD, maybe the final event of the final phase will be us having to choose and afecting the end of SOD, tieing it with retail

  • @adjacent-smith
    @adjacent-smith 3 місяці тому

    Does anyone know any games other than classic era that aren't based around dps. Like tanking being holding aggro and mitigation, healing involving actually healing and mana management dps involving crowd control mechanics and different damage styles?

  • @jacobhutchins9083
    @jacobhutchins9083 3 місяці тому

    the ederofempires idea - guild quests - that sounds like the tier 0.5 quests expanded a lot. it's something that got basically ignored for classic because of the known difficulty and ease of clearing MC/AQ20/ZG/BWL on release.

  • @tia_lenay
    @tia_lenay 3 місяці тому +8

    can feral dps get a buff holy moly

    • @Gavinbelson
      @Gavinbelson 3 місяці тому

      I'm making a new game called kitty simulator, you just spam mangle. It has better graphics than wow will you fund it?

  • @PainCheeZe
    @PainCheeZe 3 місяці тому

    Feral main and off Tank in Gnomer for my guild, still having a blast! I find it weird how much people complain about our "low" DPS with the unmatched (except by Shamans) group utility that we bring. Take Shaman, add a BR and Stealth mechanics and that's a Druid. How fast do you think people would bitch if we got anywhere near the top of the DPS meters? Don't get me wrong, I'll happily take any buffs they throw our way but I can honestly say that I'm more than content with the hand we are currently dealt and looking forward to what appears to be a bright future. As always, great content and congrats on the Twitch deal!
    🐻

  • @andrewbloch5671
    @andrewbloch5671 3 місяці тому

    @4:27 what is your unit frame addon and your action bar addon? Thanks great video!

  • @joshuabichsel
    @joshuabichsel 3 місяці тому

    Any ideas how you would fix warriors in PvP? It’s not fun just being fodder. I don’t even charge in but I’m generally picked off from distance.

    • @t9t9t9t9t9
      @t9t9t9t9t9 3 місяці тому +1

      Get a healer and a brain

  • @FelLotus33
    @FelLotus33 3 місяці тому

    Love your guy's videos also thanks for reccomending HelloJTello, dude is hilarious.

  • @HelloJTello
    @HelloJTello 3 місяці тому +1

    3:05
    5K CHAOS BOLT!?
    Is it time to reroll Warlock 😢
    Great video as always amigo 🔥

    • @TheComebackKids
      @TheComebackKids  3 місяці тому +2

      Much love tello!!!!! Had a marathon watching your videos on my road trip, THE POLAND SPRINGS IS STRONG!!!!!

  • @Mortal14
    @Mortal14 3 місяці тому +1

    restedXP has not overwritten the guides so it works well with the 100% exp buff right? would be a big W if they would..

  • @raffydraffy1037
    @raffydraffy1037 3 місяці тому

    Hey, from what area was the music at 9:13+ XD?

  • @easycake3251
    @easycake3251 3 місяці тому

    Imo they are going to do the laziest "fix" possible for the later raids. They will increase resistances and armor on bosses. Call it a day.
    The problem with many classes is that the frame they are built on is very vanilla. And has deep rooted flaws. No 1 single rune can actually fix this. The only real way to fix is to have 1 "overhaul" rune which addresses multiple issues that a spec may have. And yes, they need to be spec based. At the same time, Blizzard really does need to address the scaling on certain abilities.

  • @danielcanty5727
    @danielcanty5727 3 місяці тому

    Personally I have been trying to level about 3 different charecters and doing professions on them is reall difficult. Maybe with Waylaid supplies you get a little proffession skill for turning in Waylaid supplies of that proffession. just a thought

  • @qorda1337
    @qorda1337 3 місяці тому +3

    I will not que BGs anymore until they have nerfed Shamans. Shit is ridiculous.

  • @TheRealThaenatos
    @TheRealThaenatos 3 місяці тому

    My main Ranged hunter: bottom of the stack with Gnomer gear. My alt Enhancement Shaman: Tops charts in SM gear....With ease.

  • @Chrono826
    @Chrono826 3 місяці тому

    Xala'tath wants your soul... My body is ready as a destruction warlock. We're familiar with that sort of thing with the Fel. That's what I imagine Chaos Bolt being. A big green felfire bolt.

  • @Levelity
    @Levelity 3 місяці тому

    I feel like it's fine that other classes are at the top for once. I mean how often are we just going to accept that Mages/Rogues/Warrriors are always the top?

  • @Vmzg
    @Vmzg 3 місяці тому

    MAN TY FOR NOT BEING DELUSIOUNAL! all the enha shamm on the formus spamming lol kite me when they got decoy frost shock spirit wolf and redirect earthbind totem XD u cant kite a good shaman and when he gets near u in pvp he 2 shots u 1 stormstrike 1 lava lash u are dead 1500 crit stormsrike and 1330 lava lash :) melee hunter did 1000 crits and got a 25% nerf overall :)

  • @AtilonWoW
    @AtilonWoW 3 місяці тому

    As a main ret, I don’t like how my damage is heavily reliant on a weapon from the raid

  • @travissimpson3199
    @travissimpson3199 3 місяці тому

    Yo they need to buff steady shot to tbc specs so i can run a BM build and i think this would help the deeps for MM builds as well

  • @Coofies
    @Coofies 3 місяці тому

    Would love to see them add some utility to some of the other classes like they did with Wild Strikes/Windfury. Maybe a rune for rogues that brings the equivalent of a Grace of Air next phase similar to Blessing of Kings/Aspect of the Lion? Let me keep blasting as enhancement >:)