HoI4 Disaster Save: Belgium - RESIST AND BITE!
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2021
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In this Disaster Save as Belgium, we alone will hold the line against the Rage of the Reich!
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Once I was playing Portugal and unified with Brazil, I then declared on Spain after the finished the civil war and I expected a cake walk but the German air volunteers arrived and I quickly found myself blasted all the way back to the starting line and that’s when the German panzer arrived. that was when I really appreciated air superiority and aa
Yeah man, you really gotta rush Spain before the German volunteers show up or you're gonna have a bad time
One time I did the same and won than sent my army to invade Guangxi but France went monarchy and took all of Iberia and I didn't even get a notification that they where doing a focus to get a free war goal, took years to get back home ☹️.
That is when I would probably press a special little key under the ESC button and type TAG GER in the little window that appears and then press enter. After that just select those Panzets and Planes and press the little red trash button. Then just have a good time. Oh yeah and remember to play with a mod which removes planes from the game entirely.
@@iGamezRo
WTF....?
No.
@@Cerabelus
When I played as GER and rushed NED and FRA, I wanted to get some divisions to INS and Vietnam.
Took more than a month for them to sail there 😆
Same with playing as SOV and wanting to put armies on the border in the east.
A full month of trains to go from ~Minsk to ~Vladivostok 🥲
So yeah, I feel ya! 😆
Bitter Steel: don't attack with infantry
Me in about 99.9% of my games: bruh what do I attack with since I can never produce tanks
14/4, 12/5/1 (AA ou AT) 11/6 for 40 width, or 9/3, 8/3/1 for 26 width (requires micro to keep the combat width without penalties). If you have artillery guy, 8/8, tho the lack defense and HP. Or if your are Bulgaria, you can go 8 Mechanized 8 motorized rocket artillery (don't confuse it with truck drawn rocket artillery) with Mobile Warfare doctrine and Mobile Infantry. you now have good HP, org and soft attack. Don't forget your army command, motorized guy and artillery guy. No army can resist their attack or push their defense.
And you can also push with 7/2 if you have a lot of close air support, but 40 width (or even 26/27 width) are better. If you lack supply, 26 width microing with CAS can push some lines.
@@leoguarizo2 nah mass mobilization and 40 width infantry
@@reuben6347 cringe 😬
@@leoguarizo2 7/2 is horrible on defensive and is only good for the early game. It becomes obsolete afterwards but considering how much of an issue the supply is in Africa, these units should only be appointed to there.
What I like about these games is that you can explain the effect of certain mistakes, and how to fix them. I do see a pattern here in these save games: Germany is always the final opponent ;-)
any situation can be a teachable moment!
I have never had a problem with Germany(ok, maybe once as Yugoslavia), what difficulty level do people usually play? I choose third one as the neutral one without debuffs and buffs. But I noticed that most of the mistakes I learned to avoid myself, since I rarely watch HoI4 videos but play it a lot when I have some free time
Moral of the story: don't betray your ally, if you don't have balls.
Moral of the story. Don’t betray your allies’ balls
Its where the pee is stored after all
What about the PP gain?
Just make 500 2 width cavalry (or infantry) set it to garrison all the German core territory, then declare war on someone they guarantee or someone in their faction (like Hungary or Romania, will not work if they are puppets)
@@wholsom1003 ah yes Taureor's "Order 66" tactic
*GLORIA FORTIS MILES*
*ADVERSOR ET ADMORSUS*
THE BOAR AGAINST THE EAGLE!
Looking for this comment haha
GLORIE FORTIS MILES
THE WEHRMACHT CLOSING IN
ADVERSOR ET ADMORSUS
THE BOAR AGAINST THE EAGLE
*epic instrumental intensifies*
No radio's was the biggest mistake, no radio's then attacking Germany who has natural reinforcement ability and many boosters from doctrine, generals, chief of staff, chief of army etc etc etc. You can compensate not controlling the skies with indigenous AA in all divisions and building AA in Frontline and Industrial provinces, but you cant neglect radios against a victorious AI Germany.
Yes, please do a Part II!
My playstile: Here are the most advanced CAS and Fighters you will ever see! And this guy: "Planes? Never heard of them!" :D
I think lots of people just don't realize how extreme the buffs/debuffs from green air can be.
@@cm01 The game never really communicates this until you really start clicking and mousing over in your combat reports.
@@DeathEatsCurry yep I remember when I first learned how important it was as my maginot line was fucking leveled by strat bombers and my man power drained rapidly from CAS
I've gotten to where I use heavy fighters, tactical bombers, and scout planes myself. Not sure if that's optimal but a lot of factions have a research company with a bonus for those three and they seem to be versatile enough and I like versatility (and just attaching air wings to generals so that I don't have to micro as much).
@@Negetive2digit tact bombers are pretty nice and can really help patch holes if you can’t focus on strat bombers or CAS
I'm expecting Belgian waffle domination by the end of this
And french fries eh! French fries are Belgian
Relating to Sabaton? I like it.
Ah, a sabaton refrebce always a good one.
Just a question to bitt3r, do ya like sabaton since if you do, hell yeah.
Hell yeah
@@Bitt3rSteel Hell yeah
Hell yeah
hell yeah
@@Bitt3rSteel Hell yeah
Please make a part 2. This was a fantastic video and I learned a lot. I really enjoyed watching your resilience and the way that you did not get discouraged by the losses and the dire looking nature of the scenario at times. Thank you, you have inspired me to go back to some of my own save games and make adjustments to my strategy. Also build some air :)
Yeah I would love to see part 2 of this… the fight, it was wonderful and it must be the final showdown against the German Reich. We must see it.
Sure would be sweet to watch the fall of Berlin to the Chinese army... 😝
@Bitt3rSteel at 21:10 your units count as encircled cause your ports both count to the north sea tile, which isn't defended by your fleet. So Germany is intercepting all your supply on sea.
Excellent job as always. Loved the repeated rants about the lack of planes. I always find it weird that people who clearly like HoI4 enough to watch youtube vids about it make basic mistakes like not building air/terrible templates etc. Also gotta say I love the way you used your tanks in the end. Not gonna lie watching you draw up some of those huge plans for mass encirclements I had visions of you getting yourself trapped and overrun. Pocketing 3-4 enemies divisions at a time might not be as fun as nabbing their entire army in one go, but it's a hell of a lot safer, especially when you stand to be hurt so badly by losing your entire army. Now time for me to give it a go and see if I can find a way to take out the Germans as well.
Even weirder the person knows stuff like puppeting for navy, and put a lot of effort into it, but somehow refused to research fighters
If I had to guess, he kept putting the plane upgrades on the to do list then looked up and it was 1942 and he said “oh shit” and emailed the save.
In the end it's all about playstyle. I just do 7-2 for my entire army even as minor, skip planes and tanks and it works. Whereas Bitt3r prefers 40 width for doing small pushes and garbage infantry to hold the rest. The consequences are that while Bitt3r usually has 10-15 factories for infantry equipment and even less on artillery and rest on planes, I got like 30-40 factories on artillery, in late game maybe even 50+. The same goes for infantry equipment.
"Loved the repeated rants about the lack of planes."
Look very carefully at the image in 27:55
now maybe my eyes are tricking me but I can clearly read "2246 undeployed fighters"
he had the planes, he just didn't use them for whatever reason
Literally garbage. The low tier planes were being killed 30:1 so I stopped bothering
If I ever submit one of these for bitter to play it would be as soon as a war starts
I Find it Honestly Amazing how much Air is generally Neglected by people, I would argue its the most important factor, You will struggle to do anything without air and with complete air dominance you will be able to do a good amount with just 10/0s, even offensively.
the units won't cover the tile near florence because of the spearhead order, they will advance to the furthest point in the frontline towards their spearhead.
good catch!
my dude why are your pronunciations ON POINT
mayks me jelus
Great video. You were really pushed to your limits. I'd love to see part 2 if you fancy making it.
you completely forgot that war support increases atk and def on core territory, did you?
Well 70% of the front was not core …
54:52 Belgian Raj is planning a rebellion.
I know the hospitals are considered borderline noob traps but imagine that campaign with like half of the casualties.
love the disaster saves. Great quality stuff. Thanks!
Of course you gotta do part 2. Though, I suspect this save was intentionally sabotaged. ;)
Imagine being the guy that submitted this and seeing comments saying it's so bad it's gotta be intentionally sabotaged. That's rough lol
@@cm01 I mean, you can have a row of good luck, but still make some mistakes such as bad logistics, overextending, staying behind in some technology, not calculating the following months, bad manoeuvres and getting your divisions encircles, etc. I suffered all that, but staying behind for so long with interwar fighters, getting outproduced by the Axis but somehow he then managed to conquer France, Spain and the British Empire? Sure buddy, like you sabotaged your own game to get a "save disaster campaign".
A part two would be greatly appreciated.
I wanna see more. I didnt think you could do it. I wanna see you go all the way
The biggest disaster has to be that even two years later, Belgium still hasn't received a proper focus tree. Ffs, we got Latam focus trees and one for Aussa before Belgium.
lets see a part two of this game... love your disaster saves
a part 2 would certainly be cool to see
Wouldn’t mind a part 2 to this. Gonna be a long campaign against Germany but satisfying in the end.
Je maakte er uiteindelijk een Westromeins Rijk van! Mooi gedaan verder.
I'd def watch a p2. this was a fun one by virtue of being hard-fought!
SPAA can help your armor with enemy air, and requires much less research intensive than planes if you have to fix it late game
French fries ?
No Belgian fries please
did anyone notice that Germany now leaves always Poland with one province
Yeah. That's zaolzie from Czechoslovakia. It's given to Poland after sudetenland focus and it's not a core of Poland.
It does become a core of Poland, if I remember right. It's just never claimed by Germany so they don't give a damn about it.
Disaster saves have come a long way in the past 2 years
Can’t wait for you to do my Spain save from the 1950s😅 Sorry about sending that mess to you, I kept trying to save it and got as far as invading denmark but german air is just insane.
that was amazing how you saved it, im new to the game and i will never skip air superiority :D
a fellow man of metal
This one was so hard. I tried to keep as much cores as possible but they constantly attacked me. Could never get air dominance. But after invading Italy, it went well. I consider play it again with repeating invasions of North Italy, encircling all divisions on the Alpes front, then fall back again. Rinse and repeat until Germany is out of divisions. Cheesy, I know, but I will try :)
lets see the part 2 :D id love to see it! :D
You are very good at sounding disappointed
You know, across all the UA-camrs I've seen doing HoI4 Disaster Saves, so many of them amounts to "You didn't build air" at some point.
Now I get WHY people do that. They rationalize it. "I'm a small nation without many tech slots and I can't do everything, and because I'm small I likely can't outnumber the enemy air so who cares, don't even bother!" It makes sense... sort of... But contesting the air is just too damned important. Even something like the enemy only having 80% air control compared to 100% matters so much. It's not just the damage that CAS does (which is significant and cut a lot through contesting the air), but everything from Recovery Rate to Reinforcing a Battle to Movement Speeds which are all drastically cut by having no control of the air.
Overall, you're oddly better off with something like 100 Fighters against 2000 than 0 against 2000. Noticeably so, I've seen.
But the logic most people have is that if they can't have Green Air Everywhere it's not worth even trying.
bittersteel: *always tries his best to pronounce city names in their native tongue*
also bittersteel: *pronounces dutch city names with an american accent*
which is hilarious because Dutch is his native tongue
@@aidenbooksmith2351
I thought he was Belgian
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 He is. He's from Flanders, Northern Belgium, so he speaks Flemish, a dialect of Dutch.
He said Bologna the right way. Best content creator.
Bolonya?
@@ahmadtarek7763 boloña
If there are no ideas for streaming you can stream disaster save games as sufering
"You're not supposed to attack with infantry anyway"
PRC-Human-Wave strategy: "And I took that personally"
Love these vids
When an enemy is pinning you to move troops into a tile you want to defend/hold, you can break the pin by attacking another tile behind them. If the path goes through the tile where the divisions are pinning you/moving troops, it will attack anyways and stop the troops from moving. This can be very useful, especially when the game won't let you attack.
You could have used this at 17:20 to counter-pin the troops walking into nice and stop their reinforcement.
Not even 10 minutes in watching and already spotted that germany did let poland stay alive in Zaolzie and is surrounding it with divisions...
Hoi4 AI in a nutshell
xD
I just love that moment of "ITALY... ITALY IS BREAKING THROUGH.... ITALY!"
Oh shit you are from Belgium, I just realised after watching so many videos of yours 😅
I want to see a second part! :D
Any up-to-date guides you would recommend? I find that no matter who I play or what I do, I am always behind on production. Because of that, I almost have no room for air production. I see people with all these factories and I'm like, "when would I have built all of this?" Maybe I am switching templates too early too?
This is crazy
Nice
It worked, well done! Hard to say you did anything wrong in the face of success. Since the air war had been lost, I think you should have focused on naval bombers and possibly strat bombers to damage mils and infrastructure. Naval unit are just too vulnerable to air.
@Bitt3rSteel Only thing I am thinking about is looking at the production licences of your puppets, might even release the UK. Yes it will cost you factories but you can take their licences for free meaning free fighter 2 design straight at the beginning of this safe. Would have helped you SO MUCH.
Your welcome ;)
Loved it, you got a new sub :) (si ya know if you wanna make a second part...)
Stay tuned ;)
:D
1:03:47 this is because of the spearhead order, it makes them wanna concetrate in an area and push there ignoring the flanks. shouldn't be used on its own, should put infantry to follow up
Please do a part 2, Germany still looks very strong
You have my vote for pt2 anyway.
OMFG I HAD NO IDEA YOU DIDN'T NEED TO RESEARCH THE OTHER TORPEDOES FOR SUBS
The reason why your tanks wont stay to defend that one tile in Italy is because you had a spearhead attack order set up. if you change that to a regular attack order the units will cover the entire front line
I got the game neglected air my first game and now I won’t stop making new air stuff in every game as modern and optimized as possible
1:04:00 This is because you are using a Spearhead maneuver. They will pile on near the Spearhead starting point, this is because you made a 1 tile Spearhead order as well.
Additionally, when you have shit air/fighters, don't bother trying to do air superiority. Just do interception that way you can at least disrupt the CAS somewhat while minimizing your losses.
wait, ur a fellow belgian? awesome
Bitt3rSteal: just saved a run by a naval invasion and pointing out that planes are important
me: Never uses Planes and doesn't even know how to do Naval invasions cause I have no idea how to get naval superiority but I still beat the soviets with only infanterie with artillerie =0
screw it im out im too dumb at least you shown me that there is no hope of me figuring this crap out thanks.
Not sure how you managed that! Fair play
do a part 2 finishing Germany
The Begian Empire is a pretty simple thing. Since he took over France, Spain, and the UK, he took over their colonies in the peace deal.
We take up arms and fight!
On this episode of HoI4 Disaster Saves:
"WHY, WHY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DID YOU NOT DO AIR!?!!?" x34.
We- we will resist and bite
compared to my games, usually I'm running out of airports and leasing out old planes to friendly countries (puppets) to flood the skys
in 1:04:14 they are moving away from that tiles because you have offensive line drawn, so they are trying to move as close as possible to place where they are going to attack. You can fix it by drawing offensive line which includes more provices or just dont draw any.
I figured out it was the spearhead order
Guess who just wasted 1 hour of their time for this
The Belgen endsieg
hey , im also from Belgium , i would like to see Belgium conquer the world . im going to try this too myself
Vive la Belgique!
I've noticed you say that transports are pointless several times in videos, but then I've also seen you lament a lack of supply stopping your spearheads and naval invasions too. I think that you might be dismissing one of your tools without realizing that you have a use for it. I know how much you love your armor to keep pushing and vital pockets that can hold out as distractions.
this video predates the supply changes. Before NSB, the air supply mechanic was literally useless
Show us part II bro 👍
something tells me bittersteel likes planes
doesnt mechanized research give you bonuses for motorized?
bittersteel culd you make a video just on explain how planes work or anyone in the comments could you tell me how plane combat works cause i always keep up to date with planes and all that but i don't know how to use planes i'm slowy figuring out the navy but i always lose cause i have planes but don't know how to use them so i never have air soppiriorty
I vote for "Part Deux: The Great Waffle strikes back!"
Make a part 2 please
Two major lessons:
1) Air Power is absolutely king. It decides everything unless you're actually a God, and even then it's so important it's not even funny.
2) Naval invade behind your enemy for maximum cheese.
I played my first 5-600 hours without any air, still won most of my campaigns bar a few. I wouldn't say it decides EVERYTHING but yeah it's amazing
air is nothing if you have aa for eternity never really bothered with air except naval and tac bombers
About 50 min I'm just thinking abuse the f out of the ai in the NL plains to encircle and overrun
not a bad plan
Quick question:
How do disaster saves work? I’m talking about how do people send you their saves?
In the description, he has a business email for you to send him your saves.
I WANT TO see a part two
Sorry that I am late to the party, but is there a part 2? Greetings from Belgium
Wich dls
should u use for solo germany?
Please more contry and achievement video
soon, just waiting for the next patch
@@Bitt3rSteel thanks dude
you havent mastered the art of infantry only defense. its tough, but when your generals are leveled up and you go grand battleplan, 10/0 with enough support cant be moved. mostly...
ITD BE CRAZY IF BELGIUM WAS REAL
as someone who has played this game for 100 hours, and sucks at it. I cannot understand how someone would be able to take that much territory with Belgium, and also not be able to defend it
y'see, france is sorta incompetent.
plus its possible they had player led peace conferences on, germany normally takes everything
Did you ever do a part 2 on this save?
Nah, i had to replace the SSD and lost those alder saves
@@Bitt3rSteel right on thanks for the reply
I didn't know Bitt3rSteel was Belgian.