This is probably the most valuable video to me that you have made. It helps to remind me to move on, you can't win them all. You've got to know when to fold them. I'm in this to make money, not to win.
ABOUT PCH/CHIPSET: before, we have chipset as Northbridge (always close to cpu), which has memory controller inside, and it was "connecting" cpu, gpu, ram, and (if the integrated gpu was available on the motherboard, then it was always inside that Northbridge). And second chip - the Southbridge (far from cpu - on south), which manages Inputs/Outputs like USB, Lan, SATA, Sound, etc. Southbridge was slower and connected to Northbridge. but Now we have PCH (which is Northbridge+Southbridge merged together). but the integrated gpu is now on the cpu chip (in early version as separate silver die, but now also integrated in cpu die). btw. new PC ATX motherboards have PCH always as separate chip, placed in the middle right down. But if you take a look at i7-5600U in google graphics you will notice that this is laptop cpu - and that long silver die is a cpu and that short one is a PCH. If the laptop motherboard has that kind of cpu - then you will not find any other separated chipset on the board, because PCH is placed on the cpu. This cpu with pch on the one chip is called Hybrid. But if the laptop motherboard doesn't have that kind of Hybird, but only simple cpu as on this video, then you will find separate PCH chip on the board.
I have the same laptop model as this one although its a GL752v and the motherboard looks identical to the one on the video, it had the same problem as shown, it's a good abit to replace the mosfet with known working ones and then test for shorts, you probably couldn't see the short anymore since it was an open circuit, for my case it was the ceramic inductor right above the first mosfet you've removed that was causing the short, I tested back with a new inductor and the old mosfet and it worked, so sometimes these mosfets can really lead you in the wrong direction.
how can an inductor causing a short ? it doesn't make any sense . the inductor isn't connected to ground on any side it acts kinda like a fuse to smoothen the power .
The main importance about Asus, is the battery health. So if you have an Asus, you have to discharge 3x in Windows, and 4th time in Bios. You have to do it more times. Then, it can hibernate in 1%. By doing this more times, you can enhance it to high performance. Other laptops need 10 discharges in Windows , and the 11th is in bios. The lcd must be at max during discharge in bios, its coil causes the battery to become strong during bios discharge. You may need to remove the button battery of Asus, that is normal. Several cycles of this enables industrial performance, hardcore gamers will love it.
I think a repair fee is ok if you take your time to disassemble the device, analize it, try to fix it, lose time and then put it back together carefully. What I don't like is some UA-camrs or shops that can't fix anything beyond simple, straight forward faults and then they charge the customer like it's unfixable when in fact they don't have the knowledge to fix it. PS5 repair, no picture, they replace the HDMI port and if it doesn't work straight away it's a no fix and the customer gets charged.
This one is actually a bargain because you get an explanation vid. You never know the skill level of a repair shop when they give such a general/poor/vague explanation of a fault, ie, dead motherboard, and when there is $1000s on the line the customer needed a thorough explanation before his mind was put to ease. Basically the 2 assessment's from the other shops was a waste of time, hence why he need this 3rd opinion.
@@SidneyCritic I not only explain, but I record my repairs and post on this UA-cam. Plus, I'm a 5-star rated electronics repair shop. So, not every repair shop is bad and telling that you never know is an exaggeration IMHO ;). There are more shops like my one who care about the customer and love what they're doing.
@@screen-protector You do know Sorin only films 2 out of every 50 repairs, ie, video explanations are very rare. Sorin was saying he doesn't want to take jobs that other repair shops couldn't fix because he spends hours and they are beyond economical repair, yet he didn't make vid explanations of those. Nearly all shops don't give technical explanations, simply because the general public isn't on a level to understand it, ie, if they could understand it they could fix it themselves - lol -. When you talk to the general public you can see their eyes glaze over when you start getting technical, ie, 99.99% of the time it's a waste of time - lol -.
The video editing you did is amazing! Compare to the 45'-1h video you used to upload, this is much better. I guess it will improve a lot your channel too. I know it takes time but condensing 2h or more job, in 20 minutes for us, is way more entertaining and interesting to follow. Thank you Mr. Sorin.
not everyone does board level repairs so shops all say that the motherboard is dead, i think that a diagnose fee is a great idea and everyone agrees to pay to be sure if it is fixable or not
£25 for a fully explained diagnostic assessment vid seems like a good price to me, ie, I would be happy to pay it for an expensive item, and I would be happy to take it for the work of the vid.
Bravo Sorin. Seems like the fan are not the original ones. The laptop is know to provide too more heat and some customers uses fan kit from China. Asus revised in 2018 the heat system. The smal fan is not in the original computer, and the chipset was covered by the copper system in the second version. Certainly this is a heating issue, autodestroying!🔥
Thank you for such an in-depth repair review. I was hoping for a miracle, because. Dude needs to except and buy a new mother board. Flat scares me to know how much one of these costs and how many blow and destroy themselves so easily. I would never buy a new laptop. so much cheaper to build a desktop.
ASUS GL703GS I7 8750H + GTX 1070 8GB 144HRZ NEEDED TO PRESS THE POWER BUTTON 1 MINUTE CONTINUOUSLY, RELEASE AND THE LAPTOP POWER ON AFTER THAT. CHEERS!!!!
At 11:18 you check for a short [on resistance mode] placing the red probe at one extremity of an SMD cap and the black probe at the other extremity of the SMD cap, is that what you are doing? I can’t quite see, the camera is a bit to far, for me to see. Please confirm. Thank you
Thank you for this video, very informative and entertaining! I do have a question, what would cause a problem like this? a power surge? poor overclocking? faulty hardware? I am new to this electronics repair thing because I've been watching a lot of videos and I do own an ASUS laptop as of recently and I'm curious to know what could cause a problem like this so I can avoid if possible aswell or at least understand it better. Thank you. PD: I am somewhat tech savy, I have worked in IT before but nothing regarding voltages and electronics.
Even if you have a shorted GPU removing the Core you have a good chance to have a working laptop without dedicated graphics , but the PCH is another story. Also needs expensive equipment to replace /remove them.
@@Palmit_ I will make it more precise: before, we have chipset as Northbridge (always close to cpu), which has memory controller inside, and it was "connecting" cpu, gpu, ram, and (if the integrated gpu was available on the motherboard, then it was always inside that Northbridge). And second chip - the Southbridge (far from cpu - on south), which manages Inputs/Outputs like USB, Lan, SATA, Sound, etc. Southbridge was slower and connected to Northbridge. but Now we have PCH (which is Northbridge+Southbridge merged together). but the integrated gpu is now on the cpu chip (in early version as separate silver die, but now also integrated in cpu die). btw. Remember: new PC ATX motherboards have PCH always as separate chip, placed in the middle right down. But if you take a look at i7-5600U in google graphics you will notice that this is laptop cpu - and that long silver die is a cpu and that short one is a PCH. If the laptop motherboard has that kind of cpu - then you will not find any other separated chipset on the board, because PCH is placed on the cpu. This cpu with pch on the one chip is called Hybrid. But if the laptop motherboard doesn't have that kind of Hybird, but only simple cpu as on this video, then you will find separate PCH chip on the board.
the chipset has some connection with the gpu, maybe the power sparked over to one of those pads and it went crazy. maybe the smbus was damaged and so the ec is missing data and/or clock lines
Hey Sorin. Always love your videos. You don't need a thermal camera and an expensive scope to do all this. I don't have either of them, too expensive and not in a hurry like you. Do some old skool videos with petrol! Cheers.
sorin are you doing coffee tmrw morning? i have a question about a REALLY hot chip! chip is Realtek 8166EH on HP laptop: TPN-C125. charger led= on and Power on Led= on but no boot, or screen or activity. Its not for profit or anything. my neighbour died and i had some of his stuff. powering on makes the realtek chip pretty high temp. i removed a SMD capacitor, but no difference. i wandered if you could chat about the basics to find the problem and possibly how to repair. i dont have a laptop. it has been my dream to own one.
Hy brother I hope are you fine I have one question I have one laptop Asus gL731g laptop one mosfet 4c09B is shot I’m remove laptop working And can you tel me replacement this number 4c09B
Hey, Sorin, I got a side question, I have the same multimeter as yours, when I turn it on, I can hear as if a ventilator comes on. Is the same happening on your multimeter? What can be the source of this sound?
High Sorin if you know Northridge fix channel ,he has alot of asus and msi gaming laptop goes his way ,same problems almost, may be 10-20% are fixable.bad design ,customers pay dearly.
Looks like the pch has a missing corner exactly where it gets hot. Not able to magnifying the video enough to be sure and anyway I think you would have spotted already if where there.
@@ictrepairs6963 Thank you very much :) i'm an ancient AMD (2000's) style of computer user. I remember north and south bridge, just about, but had never heard of PCH. what's worrying me mostly is my AMD 9590 cpu and gigabyte 990FX m/b are not win 11 compliant. i have to buy new hardware for practically no reason :'(
i say no reason. i mean because a comnpany says so. it all works fine and fast. of course the ddr3 ram wont be any use in a newer computer etc etc. grr. 🤬profiteering gone mad.
For me any gaming laptop is a potential power bomb, they are working on the limit of they capacity, and any small problem will result in CPU or GPU short.
@@jonaspersson1975 works for me. i clear browser cache every few hours (firefox) else everything goers mental. last time i had problem was comments for one video (a old film noir movie) showing on a completely different video (mechanical engineering) so that was fun! lol. So yeah, clear your browser cache.
Mice videos... In my jobs the costumers pay for diagnostic. Don't make job for free it's mustake you have after that Manu job diagnostic don't pay and biznes it's close spent times whit no pay whow to pay yours Bill... I make this mustake in my New business I won't costumer and ol most to close my business don't make same mustake... This tell your whit love story for my English...
Thanks Sorin. Even the ones that don't get fixed can teach us a lot.
This is probably the most valuable video to me that you have made. It helps to remind me to move on, you can't win them all. You've got to know when to fold them. I'm in this to make money, not to win.
Mulțumesc pentru o altă lecție! Vorba aia: Game over!
excellent analysis for sequnces of the fault , great job Sorin
ABOUT PCH/CHIPSET: before, we have chipset as Northbridge (always close to cpu), which has memory controller inside, and it was "connecting" cpu, gpu, ram, and (if the integrated gpu was available on the motherboard, then it was always inside that Northbridge). And second chip - the Southbridge (far from cpu - on south), which manages Inputs/Outputs like USB, Lan, SATA, Sound, etc. Southbridge was slower and connected to Northbridge.
but
Now we have PCH (which is Northbridge+Southbridge merged together). but the integrated gpu is now on the cpu chip (in early version as separate silver die, but now also integrated in cpu die).
btw.
new PC ATX motherboards have PCH always as separate chip, placed in the middle right down.
But if you take a look at i7-5600U in google graphics you will notice that this is laptop cpu - and that long silver die is a cpu and that short one is a PCH. If the laptop motherboard has that kind of cpu - then you will not find any other separated chipset on the board, because PCH is placed on the cpu. This cpu with pch on the one chip is called Hybrid.
But if the laptop motherboard doesn't have that kind of Hybird, but only simple cpu as on this video, then you will find separate PCH chip on the board.
This is still a very interesting video and is a great example of your good intention and integrity.
Loved watching sorin! sorry not able to fix! but u was so indepth and great with trying! best repair guy around
Srecno Badnje vece!
I love your teachings sir; it really helps me in my electronic repair service. you make it very simple and Lively.
This is what we want diagnosis to the end of story.
Well done! and thank you for the nice video.
A pleasure to watch. Thank you.
I have the same laptop model as this one although its a GL752v and the motherboard looks identical to the one on the video, it had the same problem as shown, it's a good abit to replace the mosfet with known working ones and then test for shorts, you probably couldn't see the short anymore since it was an open circuit, for my case it was the ceramic inductor right above the first mosfet you've removed that was causing the short, I tested back with a new inductor and the old mosfet and it worked, so sometimes these mosfets can really lead you in the wrong direction.
how can an inductor causing a short ? it doesn't make any sense . the inductor isn't connected to ground on any side it acts kinda like a fuse to smoothen the power .
Hi Sorin, Long time viewer, like the shorter videos
Another good one!
What's that screw driver u use?
Good information. Watching you troubleshoot really helps me in my troubleshooting as well Sorin. Thank You
Hi my Mentor I'm a fun from Zimbabwe.....l love your good job
Thank you Sorin.
The main importance about Asus, is the battery health. So if you have an Asus, you have to discharge 3x in Windows, and 4th time in Bios. You have to do it more times. Then, it can hibernate in 1%. By doing this more times, you can enhance it to high performance. Other laptops need 10 discharges in Windows , and the 11th is in bios. The lcd must be at max during discharge in bios, its coil causes the battery to become strong during bios discharge. You may need to remove the button battery of Asus, that is normal. Several cycles of this enables industrial performance, hardcore gamers will love it.
Good job mate 👍
very nice thermal camera
Yes,
I remember him saying it's worthless buying a whole thermal camera and he prefers a thermal cam that attachs to phone
Now he have one
@@osamashokry4524 so true! maybe Diana have the other one for her phone repair vids?
£1,119.99 woth of camera!!! EEK! thats a lotta money!
Thank you Sorin, I really enjoyed this video!
Nice video Master. Thank you for the lesson
Thanks
Mulțumim, foarte practic.
I think a repair fee is ok if you take your time to disassemble the device, analize it, try to fix it, lose time and then put it back together carefully.
What I don't like is some UA-camrs or shops that can't fix anything beyond simple, straight forward faults and then they charge the customer like it's unfixable when in fact they don't have the knowledge to fix it.
PS5 repair, no picture, they replace the HDMI port and if it doesn't work straight away it's a no fix and the customer gets charged.
This one is actually a bargain because you get an explanation vid. You never know the skill level of a repair shop when they give such a general/poor/vague explanation of a fault, ie, dead motherboard, and when there is $1000s on the line the customer needed a thorough explanation before his mind was put to ease. Basically the 2 assessment's from the other shops was a waste of time, hence why he need this 3rd opinion.
@@SidneyCritic I not only explain, but I record my repairs and post on this UA-cam. Plus, I'm a 5-star rated electronics repair shop. So, not every repair shop is bad and telling that you never know is an exaggeration IMHO ;). There are more shops like my one who care about the customer and love what they're doing.
@@screen-protector You do know Sorin only films 2 out of every 50 repairs, ie, video explanations are very rare. Sorin was saying he doesn't want to take jobs that other repair shops couldn't fix because he spends hours and they are beyond economical repair, yet he didn't make vid explanations of those. Nearly all shops don't give technical explanations, simply because the general public isn't on a level to understand it, ie, if they could understand it they could fix it themselves - lol -. When you talk to the general public you can see their eyes glaze over when you start getting technical, ie, 99.99% of the time it's a waste of time - lol -.
The video editing you did is amazing! Compare to the 45'-1h video you used to upload, this is much better.
I guess it will improve a lot your channel too. I know it takes time but condensing 2h or more job, in 20 minutes for us, is way more entertaining and interesting to follow.
Thank you Mr. Sorin.
I would like no editing and watch the full length video.
not everyone does board level repairs so shops all say that the motherboard is dead, i think that a diagnose fee is a great idea and everyone agrees to pay to be sure if it is fixable or not
Thanks Sorin, 73s
great video Sorin :) shame it couldn't be repaired :)
Audio is a little bit on the low side Brother Sorin. But thanks for the knowledge.
Nice, THX
£25 for a fully explained diagnostic assessment vid seems like a good price to me, ie, I would be happy to pay it for an expensive item, and I would be happy to take it for the work of the vid.
im an IT repair guy and around here we have to call it fixed price cause people never want to pay it when we call it a diagnostic fee.
25 pounds is very cheap.
Bravo Sorin. Seems like the fan are not the original ones. The laptop is know to provide too more heat and some customers uses fan kit from China. Asus revised in 2018 the heat system. The smal fan is not in the original computer, and the chipset was covered by the copper system in the second version. Certainly this is a heating issue, autodestroying!🔥
oh yeah! i forgot that the heat pipes have to also travel close to the components. good point!
Hello
Sorin, after desoldering the mosfet, do not turn on the computer because the mosfet driver may be damaged.
Thank you for such an in-depth repair review. I was hoping for a miracle, because. Dude needs to except and buy a new mother board. Flat scares me to know how much one of these costs and how many blow and destroy themselves so easily. I would never buy a new laptop. so much cheaper to build a desktop.
Hi I am big fan
ASUS GL703GS I7 8750H + GTX 1070 8GB 144HRZ NEEDED TO PRESS THE POWER BUTTON 1 MINUTE CONTINUOUSLY, RELEASE AND THE LAPTOP POWER ON AFTER THAT. CHEERS!!!!
At 11:18 you check for a short [on resistance mode] placing the red probe at one extremity of an SMD cap and the black probe at the other extremity of the SMD cap, is that what you are doing? I can’t quite see, the camera is a bit to far, for me to see. Please confirm. Thank you
Hello, so we are back
Thank you for this video, very informative and entertaining!
I do have a question, what would cause a problem like this? a power surge? poor overclocking? faulty hardware?
I am new to this electronics repair thing because I've been watching a lot of videos and I do own an ASUS laptop as of recently and I'm curious to know what could cause a problem like this so I can avoid if possible aswell or at least understand it better. Thank you.
PD: I am somewhat tech savy, I have worked in IT before but nothing regarding voltages and electronics.
Even if you have a shorted GPU removing the Core you have a good chance to have a working laptop without dedicated graphics , but the PCH is another story. Also needs expensive equipment to replace /remove them.
what is PCH please??
@@Palmit_ Platform Controller Hub, on other names as chipset, or southbridge
@@Darkyzor thank you :)
@@Palmit_ I will make it more precise: before, we have chipset as Northbridge (always close to cpu), which has memory controller inside, and it was "connecting" cpu, gpu, ram, and (if the integrated gpu was available on the motherboard, then it was always inside that Northbridge). And second chip - the Southbridge (far from cpu - on south), which manages Inputs/Outputs like USB, Lan, SATA, Sound, etc. Southbridge was slower and connected to Northbridge.
but
Now we have PCH (which is Northbridge+Southbridge merged together). but the integrated gpu is now on the cpu chip (in early version as separate silver die, but now also integrated in cpu die).
btw.
Remember: new PC ATX motherboards have PCH always as separate chip, placed in the middle right down.
But if you take a look at i7-5600U in google graphics you will notice that this is laptop cpu - and that long silver die is a cpu and that short one is a PCH. If the laptop motherboard has that kind of cpu - then you will not find any other separated chipset on the board, because PCH is placed on the cpu. This cpu with pch on the one chip is called Hybrid.
But if the laptop motherboard doesn't have that kind of Hybird, but only simple cpu as on this video, then you will find separate PCH chip on the board.
@@Radek__ fantastic explanation. TIL!. Brilliant. Thank you :)
sir Sorin how to contact you incase we have a repair case that we cant solve?
the chipset has some connection with the gpu, maybe the power sparked over to one of those pads and it went crazy. maybe the smbus was damaged and so the ec is missing data and/or clock lines
Hey Sorin. Always love your videos. You don't need a thermal camera and an expensive scope to do all this. I don't have either of them, too expensive and not in a hurry like you. Do some old skool videos with petrol! Cheers.
Hi Mr Sorin What is the model of your power supply You are using ?
sorin are you doing coffee tmrw morning? i have a question about a REALLY hot chip! chip is Realtek 8166EH on HP laptop: TPN-C125. charger led= on and Power on Led= on but no boot, or screen or activity. Its not for profit or anything. my neighbour died and i had some of his stuff. powering on makes the realtek chip pretty high temp. i removed a SMD capacitor, but no difference. i wandered if you could chat about the basics to find the problem and possibly how to repair. i dont have a laptop. it has been my dream to own one.
I bet it was a lightning, if so many components are gone. The customer didn't say anything about it?
Watching you in those gloves are making my hands sweat!
Hy brother I hope are you fine I have one question I have one laptop Asus gL731g laptop one mosfet 4c09B is shot I’m remove laptop working
And can you tel me replacement this number 4c09B
Hey, Sorin, I got a side question, I have the same multimeter as yours, when I turn it on, I can hear as if a ventilator comes on. Is the same happening on your multimeter? What can be the source of this sound?
yes. they brought me a laptop and customer says while he is using sometimes the laptop shut down itself randomly. I dont know what to do in this case
and there is no gaming laptop. They always burn and give faults. If you want to play game buy desktop PC.
foarte frumos din partea u si eu as fi procedat ca si tine
Any tips for laptop heatsink that have stripped screws ?
If possible, spot weld the screw with the screw driver & unscrew it out!😀
Диагностика супер. Лайк 👍.
Спасибо. Всеравно интересно.
Say in english please
The GPU isn’t dead , it’s perfectly alright with the lowest resistance ever
High Sorin if you know Northridge fix channel ,he has alot of asus and msi gaming laptop goes his way ,same problems almost, may be 10-20% are fixable.bad design ,customers pay dearly.
Looks like the pch has a missing corner exactly where it gets hot. Not able to magnifying the video enough to be sure and anyway I think you would have spotted already if where there.
what is PCH pls?
@@Palmit_ in the Intel universe literally means Platform Controller Hub, simply known as chipset.
@@ictrepairs6963 Thank you very much :) i'm an ancient AMD (2000's) style of computer user. I remember north and south bridge, just about, but had never heard of PCH. what's worrying me mostly is my AMD 9590 cpu and gigabyte 990FX m/b are not win 11 compliant. i have to buy new hardware for practically no reason :'(
i say no reason. i mean because a comnpany says so. it all works fine and fast. of course the ddr3 ram wont be any use in a newer computer etc etc. grr. 🤬profiteering gone mad.
For me any gaming laptop is a potential power bomb, they are working on the limit of they capacity, and any small problem will result in CPU or GPU short.
forgot about the battery may cause wrong reading
Can you add Turkish subtitles?
The chipset probably dead but I can surely fix that tho
it's a good lesson to keep away from gaming laptops specially Asus
That's it. I'll never buy a gaming laptop again. Always disliked laptops in general anyway.
Anybody else not getting audio on this video?
Its happening sometimes for me to. Try to reload the page.
@@jonaspersson1975 works for me. i clear browser cache every few hours (firefox) else everything goers mental. last time i had problem was comments for one video (a old film noir movie) showing on a completely different video (mechanical engineering) so that was fun! lol. So yeah, clear your browser cache.
that's why, kids, don't buy a gaming laptop.
Motherboard needs another stick of ram
It's new fixing by checking homs
You have to explain more next time thinks
I have a water damaged laptop but I am in India
Mice videos... In my jobs the costumers pay for diagnostic. Don't make job for free it's mustake you have after that Manu job diagnostic don't pay and biznes it's close spent times whit no pay whow to pay yours Bill... I make this mustake in my New business I won't costumer and ol most to close my business don't make same mustake... This tell your whit love story for my English...
exactly!! you diagnose cheaply,,, and then they take it elsewhere to do the work and tell them what you told the customer.
or they try fix it themselves.. then come back with a new problem hahah
too time consuming to troubleshoot, could have fix a dozen + with the time spend on this. NorthbridgeFix