me screaming at the screen "it's right thereeeee! why can't you lock at him, he'sgonna hit me and now a looking the other direction! it's right there" and i'm dead
This game has a few technical issues, but they have been relatively minor for me. I just can't put this game down, it's like a return to form for the souls series and I love that. Probably the closest game to Dark Souls 1 since that game came out years ago
@@ironmaidenmetalgod it's really not that bad. Don't rush through the levels. Ive been doing tons of coop now 70hrs in and 90% of the time, the host is just impatient and gets swarmed by enemies cause they don't take their time. Use ranged attacks and constantly use vestige seeds to keep level progression.
I made a ranged only build using the Harrower Delva Boss Crossbow with the Umbral eye that gives you unlimited ammo. It supposed to trade wither damage for the ammo but that 3 shot crossboy seems to just fill up your health as soon as you hit anything. Its pretty broken and just melts enemies.
Really appreciate your insight. Performance issues plagued my first 5 hours of the game. The constant patches seem to have helped. There is too much momentum in movements through the dodging/weapon swinging. I am loving the exploration but so far 15 hours in, preferring lies of P. Will give it more time
by performance issues I mean fps drops, stuttering game crashes, I have a 30 series gpu and an i9900k so its not hardware related playing on recommended settings
The last level, that last big room in particular with the staircase, was absolutely brutal and beyond frustrating. The boss you mention with the monologue was also one of the biggest letdowns in recent memory for me. Decent game, and if LoP hadn't just come out and the performance issues weren't as bad, I think this game would have been received more positively. But the enemy spam throughout the whole game, as well as comical balance issues make this a significant step down from LoP for me. By balance issues, I'm referring to the fact that the levels were as frustrating as they were, and meanwhile I was absolutely melting bosses on the first attempt while practically face tanking with healing to spare. I used the 3rd boss's weapon, the halberd, fully upgraded it pretty early and respecced once to move 5 or 6 points from agi to str and I was tearing thru boss health bars in like 4-5 3 hit combos.
Unfortunately that's kind of how LoP is post nerf patch. As it is now the large respawning elite puppet mobs are harder than most of the bosses. Unless advance just happens to be busted, because that's how I've been playing through it.
@@mintparfaitthat has not been my experiencr at all and I have only played post patch. The areas between bosses are hard and bosses are harder, at least most of them. And any "miniboss" enemies that respawn do not even compare in difficulty to a boss like Puppet King.
@@CrabeVideos Maybe advance is just really busted then because puppet king was one of my biggest disappointments. Stagger chained him with the lightning arm the first attempt. Died more to the clown patrollers and the spider girls leading up to him 😂
@@CrabeVideosI can tell you that they nerfed the bosses in LoP pretty hard...They had much more HP and put out much more damage pre nerf! They also nerfed a bunch of the elites, because they were just as hard as some bosses before the nerf...
@@mintparfaitAdvance builds can definitely be really strong for most of the game, main because you can put out a ton of damage and you can use quick weapons to do it...Plus you get really good scaling on the staus effect legion arms and throwables
Ruri I love your candid take on this game. It seems like something I would really enjoy. I was not pulled in by what I saw of Lies of P. This seems much more my style, though a bit more dark that I would normally prefer. Still the build diversity sounds fantastic. That was my favorite part of Elden Ring, accessibility to a bunch of different builds and play styles.
The judge cleric radiant sentinel 2nd phase is the peak of what you said regarding excessive particle effects. Immpossible to see anything in melee range.
I think a better way to put it would be, "Do you like sekiro, bloodborne and the accompanying world, lore, quality associated with those games. Or Do you like Dark souls 2 but not as obnoxious but still close and worse enemy variety?" Because LOTF reminds me a lot of what Ds2 does and i don't make it like a positive comparison. This game beats ds2 barely and that's a low bar to clear. The game isn't all negative, i like how the parry system and rally system work, i think its fantastic. I also love the spell casting, i think this game has better spell casting than actual fromsoft games. And also extends to the throwable system. The weapon designs, some enemy designs and armor designs are also fantastic. I like the aesthetic of dark souls, demon souls and dark fantasy in general. Lords of the fallen's aesthetic appeals to me a lot more than lie's of P but asthetic alone was the not enough to make that game enjoyable for me. The area's are rough with a lot of enemy spam, snipers, lots of useless trashmobs that just distract you, very very bad enemy variety. Like i've not seen a single unique enemy after like the 12 hour mark. Instead of the seedbeds i would've preferred a more tightly connected level design, I don't think this idea was executed all that well at all. The bosses were very disappointing, all of them just very easy. There are like 2 alright bosses i thought were fun-ish but even those were pretty easy. The parry sounds are weird, fairy dust sound. Weapon sounds are fine but i think there should've been some weapon sounds that were tailor made for specific weapons. Like pieta's sword is a light sword but for some reason it has the same sword sounds and same kind of hitstop. Umbral looks cool and i love the look of it but overall i think their presentation is poor compared to lies of p. A lot of the area's feel same-y and muddied, the game is weirdly dark a lot of the times and the lighting freaks out way too often, it feels like exiting blightown type of lighting change but it happens frequently. Its fine they went with detail but they skipped out on how to present that in a form that is appealing. The demon soul's remake i think is good comparison, that game has a lot of detail but they also found the balance and how to present it. Lies of P is just a better game, get that or get gamepass and play it on that if that's cheaper or if you already have it. it sucks to say because I really was looking forward to this game. its not terrible just disappointing.. the ending especially was disappointing. I won't bother doing ng+ or other endings.
About safety and stigmas, I think they do that on purpose...but maybe if the flowers that's like a safe spot kinda, I did notice the eye disappears and the red reaper guy will leave you alone and wait for you to move out of certain areas where flowers are, atleast if there's a vestige. But sometimes they don't care. Maybe if they make it like the flowers are safe, even if it's small areas to stand. It doesn't ruin the pressure the devs want to keep on you but you will atleast be safe till you leave the little area
I absolutely adore this game, despite all the jank. It's flawed in many ways, but for whatever reason, the flaws don't bother me at all. There are so many good ideas here, that just need a bit more polish, but the things that work well, work really well for me. I will say, however, I'm playing on PC, and if someone on Nexus hadn't made a bunch of optimizing engine.ini edits, this game would've been unplayable, and that would've been disappointing.
Pretty much my exact same sentiment. Game has a lot of awesome stuff going for it, but man does it have issues that hold it back. Bugs/performance, enemy density, enemy variety, wonky/inconsistent lock on, floaty/messy feeling combat, and the lack of normal vestiges in new game plus are what gets me. It feels like if they had cut the scope back of what they were trying to achieve we'd have a much more cohesive package
@@Terror_Unit In the patch coming out on Thursday they are adding vestiges to ng+. They were very adamant about not doing that but due to the ever growing number of people vocalizing how stupid that decision was forced them to adjust accordingly.
@@PrecariousHuskAre they? Where did they say that? In the recent live stream Cowboy did with Saul (can’t remember his sir name) he was pretty adamant that they were not.
@@Fishster Yeah, I saw that too. I think something happened between patch 8 & 9 where they realized they had to step outside of their echo chamber and start actually listening to the constructive criticism of their player base. Here is a quote from Patch v1.1.224 that they just issued today. "A further patch this coming Thursday will see further updates made to the NG+ mode; instead of removing all vestiges (as it does currently), NG+1 will only see a few disappear while keeping the key locations intact. In NG+2, a few more will disappear, and then in NG+3 all but the main HUB (Skyrest Bridge) and Adyr's Shrine vestige will disappear. This way, our initial vision remains intact but is more of a gradual adaptation, awaiting those who seek increasing levels of challenge." Seems like a reasonable compromise to me.
@@PrecariousHuskThanks for the quick reply. Seems confirmed not only have they back pedalled they seem to have done so pretty dam quick. They are pretty reactive and fast to implement stuff.
Too much detail isn't the issue. When it comes to visual design, you have to be able to design around that. Get people to pay attention to certain visual things with lots of technical methods. There is things you can do with color, or the way the scene is structured. It's the artists job to draw your eyes towards certain key items.
Nice review Ruri. Fair points made. I believe the number one issue with all technical crashes is crowd data. Devs get a lot of feedback from crash reports from various PC builds that exist in the market and they cannot build every variant. So it would have helped to do some Alpha or Beta testing with couple of content creators like you in the start to source all the crashes, collect the bugs and clean the code before final deployment. I hope they watch this review and pick a couple of constructive points with a positive mindset as there is room for improvement.
I'm not going to sugarcoat it, we need more demon souls and less speed souls/shonen souls, the real deal with this series is how weird and memorable some of the encounters were which elevated the more normal and challenging boss encounters, but if everyone is Artorias, then nobody is that special.
In literally every other souls game (except maybe DS2), exploration wasn't as hard as bosses. Here, bosses are much easier and digestible to tackle than exploration, and that's bullshit. You need to understand that you can't make a confusing world that players can get lost but make that more frustrating by making unfair traps, spamming enemies, or spamming ambushes. You choose between the two, but using both at the same time just makes you a d*ck. People that enjoy this ambush/mob fest that's literally WORSE than DS2 are masochists of the worst kind and masking that as being "pro". If you can't clear every skirmish in this game in less than 2 tries like actually pro players, and you're taking the same or worse time clearing said skirmishes than the average player, you're not a pro at all, you're just a pathological masochist.
I will only accept that if they make Iframes negligible and emphasise more on positioning and dodging entire attack hitboxes - no Iframe combat. DeS and DS1's combat are not methodical enough to justify their existence. If FromSoft for example want to continue Iframe combat, then there is literally no point in slowing the combat down
@@mhk6943 Right. This is why AC6's combat works. Positioning is given far more emphasis, and iframing is non-existent. It offers more ways to mitigate damage, and you can adjust how fast you "dodge" or strafe. Slowing down combat when enemies are spammed against you doesn't make it methodical, it makes it tedious because of how little hits you can push back vs the 1000 attacks a whole battalion throws at you.
What I would love is for reviews to be upfront. I got the game on ps5 and the FPS is horrible sometimes and that’s a turnoff for me. I hope they work and fix this
Yeah the devs paid a bunch of streamers to stream the game on their monster pcs for a couple hours and made sure they weren’t playing on console. It’s borderline immoral to release a game that you know will not function properly, especially when you’re charging $70 for it.
@@rurikhan other reviewers just either did not mention it or made it seem like it was an insignificant issue when in reality it’s something that happens throughout the game. But oh well, this is something that happens nowadays and it shouldn’t when there’s a “next gen console” and all games should be running at 60fps all the time
The devs just made a big announcement! New game plus will have vestiges, you can buy respects in the community shrine. I have not had one crash or performance issue and I have 70+ hours, above Level 110. My PC Specs: Ryzen 9 CPU, 2070 Super GPU, 64 Gigs of Ram.
That's shitty. They should've stuck to their guns on NG+ instead of listening to the whiny babies on reddit. The game actively encourages you to make mew characters. NG+ in this game was meant to be a challenge to test your fully built character. But people got butthurt that NG+ wasn't the "Look at me I'm OP and can smash the game in 2hrs" victory lap like it is in every other game. EDIT: I went and read the patch notes. After NG+3 Vestiges will be gone but on NG+1 and 2 they will slowly go away. Alternatively, trophy hunters can use a story reset mode to reset their NG save and finish hunting trophies. You made it sound like they just caved to the complainers lol. They actually made a really really good compromise
Been looking forward to this review! Definitely gonna wait for a sale for this game. In the mean time I picked up a physical copy of remnant 2 on sale!
I finished the platinum on this yesterday and man oh man! I absolutely enjoyed most of my time with this game(over 300 hours and 3 full playthroughs, NG+0 and NG+1 on the last run). But some of the drop rates on certain armor pieces are atrocious to get that platinum! I really commend the devs for doing their best and pumping out patches left and right to make the game enjoyable. I don’t necessarily agree with them on everything but it is super encouraging to see them listen to the community for the most part and improve the game while still trying to keep their original vision alive as I respect that. I hope other devs and publishers will follow suit and we get spoiled with more great games. This game is definitely not for everyone but I did thoroughly enjoy it. Love the content Ruri keep up the excellent work sir!
The monolog moments, they can do it like Gideon. Either you choose to listen it, or if you don't want to, you can just interrupt it, and maybe get like different dialog like they get angry or something.
Great review. This is exactly what I predicted: there was no way the studio was going to be able to live up to the insane hype around this game, but it would be a decent game. They should fire their marketing. This should have come out as a sleeper success that punched way above its expectations and set up the studio for future funding success. Clearly someone got greedy and wanted to cash out by overpromising on their first real big ticket game. The souls community keeps complaining about Elden Ring DLC release delay, but one of the things FromSoftware does very well is to keep their mouths shut, underpromise, and overdeliver. They learned their lesson from Dark Souls 2 and seem to now be immune from being rushed to push out unfinished product, at least for PVE. Other studios should do this too. Everyone’s vision is too short term, they seem to only care about making money on the next game instead of focusing on building a loyal fan base over a decade or more. Miyazaki succeeded in getting people who had never seen an Armored Core game to buy it because they liked other games by FromSoftware. That’s how you build real value, not flash marketing scheme.
Im loving this game and am surprised there are as many people as there are putting it down! I love navigating my way around the large levels and fighting my way outta umbral.
The title is how I feel about it. I like jt but man there's technical problems that take Me out of it. I'm playing on ps5 turned off all the graphical things and in fps focused mode. Between this and lies of p being so close to each other, I love lies more. I am going to keep pushing through lords hopefully builds feel better.
If you're keeping up with upgrades (not over leveling, but upgrading weapon and some main stat), the enemy density is fine. You're supposed to like 2 slap the mooks, 4 shot the slightly bigger and badder guys, then 8 maybe for the really scary guys. You should be able to take former bosses pretty handily. This is just a rule of thumb, however i am basing this on a game mechanic. Your weapons should be hitting white to red numbers, if you're seeing grey, you're under leveled
Grey numbers = resistance. Your level does not matter. Your upgrades don't matter. It's not about people being underleveled. It's about the game relying on a crutch to make it challenging. The problem is, it overuses it. Hell, even on the very first area AFTER Pieta, the first few enemies you encounter are snipers from hard to reach places or plain unreachable places, not counting the THREE ambushes waiting for you from your VERY first drop, and they're LESS THAN 5 steps of each other, no kidding. This is not OK. If you're going to make a game challenging, make them smart and tricky, but don't rely on ambushes to make your trash (in both the mechanical and moveset sense) mobs functional because you hid them in a sneaky position. It's like the people who designed the mobs thought they'd be good hindrances to the player, but the gameplay department disagreed and instead of redesigning the monsters, spammed them and positioned them in sneaky places and situations. It's not "challenging to keep evading or blocking for 5 minutes and get a single hit every once in a while to clean up a skirmish. When the bosses are less challenging than traversing the level, you KNOW the design is just trash. Bosses are BOSSES for a reason. I didn't feel bad trying Pieta 3x to beat, infact each between deaths it was invigorating, since it was fun to learn and deal with the delayed (cheap) attacks, but even dying ONCE because of the backstabbers or unrendered distance snipers felt EXTREMELY frustrating. They call it their "vision", making excuses for bad enemy placement, but in truth there was a disconnect between the gameplay department vs the enemy design department. In Lies of P, they MAY rely too much on sneaky situations mentioned above, but at the very least, the more it happened between each Stargazer/Bonfire, the more rewarding the encounter was (could be in the form of Ergo/Souls, or items). Here, it's just there to hamper you, and discourage exploration. Instead of being able to truly explore, you spend 90% of your time cleaning up skirmishes, or just running past them to get to the boss where it's more enjoyable to fight.
@@yvannenikolainethercott5709 Yes some enemies will resist you regardless of level, but there are enemies i was hitting grey, i leveled, and then started hitting normally. It has to be both then.. IDK, i can see where you're coming from but i don't think it's that bad. Maybe the ranged enemies can feel cheaply placed, and maybe shit can be a bit overdone lol, but i still like it.
It's not even about being able to take them down, lol. They could all have 1 HP and it would still be an annoyance. The fact them stupid fucking dogs and gremlin things all have Havel poise is an even bigger issue too. The game was just made obnoxiously.
The Souls Community should be happy their genre is getting more love and interesting games made for them. The community needs to understand that Lies of P & Lords of The Fallen are 2 similar but different games with what experiences they provide. Lies of P is more linear when it comes to exploration but has a more polished combat system akin to SEKIRO. Lords of The Fallen i see as more of a Dark Souls 1 experience (although plagued with omtimization issues & some jank) where the exploration and dual world Umbral system is the meat of the game hiding all sorts of goodies in there while also being a dangerous zone the longer you stay in it, its not supposed to be easy in the realm of the undead. Overall this game isnt bad and definitely doesn't deserve scores on the level of Redfall or Forspoken when those games are definitely far worse than this game.
@@ninjafrog6966 not at all what I said, but you'll probably bicker and argue amongst your fellow brothers who play the same genre of games and insult them just because they have different opinions and experiences than what you had when we're all fans of the Souls formula. It's a Souls game for a different Souls player.
Well made review. Thank you. I especially appreciate the examples you made about LOTF being more like DS/DeS and Lies of P being more like BB/sekiro...it was very apt. thanks again.
this is absolutely the best review ive seen of this game. every other review just spews the negative and i just couldnt bring myself to listen to them because it just felt like their vids were rushed. nearly every single one I watched does not even talk about the 2 world stuff or build diversity and didnt even mention the game had a co-op system or that there are ruins you can put into your weapons or that throwables are not complete ass. you managed to show the good things about this game while talking about the negatives without sounding like youre just whining about something absolutely irrelevant to the quality of the game. so many reviews complained about enemy density but now that you mention it, those clips were all in umbral and they were just getting swarmed by the dudes. never knew it was intended to be like that. anyways, thanks for the great review! defo buying this game in a few weeks.
I've not been able to stop playing this since launch. I had to stop playing Lies of P after about 12 hours of the same environment, enemies and super boring level design. LotF has some unfortunate issues, for sure. But its level design is on par with From Software. That's not hyperbole. If you're a fan of truly interconnected worlds with smart shortcuts and rewarding secrets, this game might actually be one of the best at it. Both single player and co op benefit from umbral and the lamp mechanics. It's pretty intense when you're watching the clock while trying to fight your way to the next area back to safety. It can get pretty intense.
This is a Flawless Review, well done! LOTF is not made for people without patience, an amazing game in this genre should be both fun and Annoying to trigger the rewards system in your brain and make you excited while you pass through a certain area or explore or acquire loot ---- there must be respect for all the team behind this game, they did quite a lot, weapons and armor sets are amazing in this game - FromSoft is not close in terms of weapons and armors etcetera... - in my impression, this games need time to fix the unreal engine issues and can get 9/10
I'd be happy at this point if there are no game breaking bugs in coop. Been playing with a friend on pc and we've been having a blast but not being able to run or jump as a guest just sucks. Not to mentioned invisible enemies in the umbral world and having to spam the dodge button to climb ladders. It's been over a week and these issue have still not been resolved. I've checked online and apparently these bugs are only effecting those who are playing with their friends on steam.
I have been going back an forth between loving and hating this game, but over it was fun...The levels were the best part for me, I loved getting lost and exploring the world! I played on PC and I never had a single crash, but I had plenty of wierd visual bugs and enemies getting stuck and stuff like that...I didn't many performance issues either except at the main hub area, and the very last level, but overall it was pretty smooth...I'm not super sensitive to minor bugs and things like that, but my biggest gripe for this game is the lack of enemy variety, especially torwards the end of the game! They recycled alot of enemies over and over at the end...I really hope someone will make an overhaul mod for this game, because I can see alot of potential!
Aside from the abundance of annoying enemies in certain areas, I had a pretty good time with this game. Surprisingly I only had 3 crashes during my 39 hour playthrough but that's not to discredit the people that have been experiencing frequent crashes.
I totally agree with you on the visual clutter. I realized that just about every environment has a blanket of haze which gets really old. I think it could have worked in a handful of places for atmosphere but they went way overboard. There’s also just a lot of detail that doesn’t seem to add to the look of the game and even detracts from a lot of the more interesting visual elements and design language. I also think that unreal engine doesn’t do a good job scaling the LOD (despite that being one of the main selling points). I played on PS5 and was constantly distracted by rendering artifacts like ladders popping out of existence but leaving shadows or particles of soot/snow/dust leaving trails or confusing scaled textures that ended up looking like white noise. Lighting also seems to be an issue because it is so slow to load in some areas and I even had boss fights that took a second to render the boss and arena after the cutscene.
Had Lies of P not released before LotF I'd have probably enjoyed it way more. Sadly, Lies of P released with actual polish while LotF released with some cool ideas and jank....and it looks like a ps3 game on the xbox X
Im suprised with how many "Lord of Fallen bad" videos that are cropping up at this point, i havent finished it yet but i think its best described as "its good, but with a lot of little annoy issues" thats what i think about it at least but generally enjoy it
A lot of little things add up very quickly and are often the result of each other. It’s starts a chain link of issues that can end up locking up the games fun when you can’t even play due to frame rate stutter and lag. The most important aspect is performance issues and the fact they haven’t fixed them on Xbox is atrocious especially when the games been out for Almost a month. This game is unfinished and needed atleast 6 more months to polish it out, but to meet deadlines the game was rushed out in a poor state, yet they still feel like charging 70$.
All you need is Rosumands Sword. Freaking love this sword. But you basically have to create a build with this sword in mind. As I believe you need strength, agility, radiance, and inferno which is ridiculous but it's a badass weapon
Just change one of the scaling to the other from socket runies. Also, you can do this one on the right and left reaper sword on the left as also is light and has forest damage. I use those 2 in combination
I usually agree with you ruri but this time i can't I'm more of a DS/DeS player but i still prefer lies of P I think lord of the fallen have too much problem for me to be enjoyed, i didn't have fun at all in this game I beat it the first week so they probably changed a lot, but not matter how hard they patch the game it will never change honestly animations are not good ( you told yourself we move to far when we move, and i think it's really bad) They're too much ennemies, the bosses are REALLY BAD, it's been a while i didn't encounter bad bosses like that, even DS2 had better bosses... They had a lot of idea but most of them are badly executed To finish on a good note, how they made the two world with no loading is incredible and i can't wait to see what they're doing next if they learn how to really make a good game
Particle effects are definitely to be used judiciously. In most games I dislike them, and it's particularly stark in this game. I love the game overall though. Target lock needs fixing! The soundtrack is phenomenal. I really recommend listening to it on its own - when you can appreciate it whilst not being swarmed by enemies 😂
Been playing on High/Medium since the start, tried to switch to Ultra and yeaaaah :D Khan is right, sometimes is a bit too much. Hurts clarity a bit. As for number of enemies and placement, haven't noticed anything egregious so far, but I'm only half-way through, I guess later areas could be bad, dunno. Thanks for all the streams and content Khan, and the always cool chats with Cowboy. Keep it up.
I've had two crashes on ps5 and an incident which kinda worried me I was going through an area running from a ton of enemies and it turned into a slideshow where I got to a vestige and then after resting it was fine. It's just weird I've never seen the system take a poop like that
106 hours into the game, I've completed all the endings. I love love love the game, but like most people, I think it has some things to improve on. I want a chest for storage, I want the Bowl of Revelations/Remembrances to transfer into NG+, I want a way to sort through my inventory based on name/set, weight or type. I feel like they could've made resistances a little bit more impactful so that I had to put on a specific ring for a boss fight or use my consumeables more. I'd want a list of exactly which items you need for the specific trophies because the wiki is still lacking a little bit. I don't have an issue with the sounds. The lock-on is a little bit fuzzy but you get used to the forward momentum and watching your step around ledges/heights. I think I read in one of the earlier patch notes that they significantly decreased mob density and boss difficulty which made me sad because my first run through the game it was difficult and challenging and it forced me to PLAN and THINK on how to get past a ridiculously mob-tight area. I had to develop a strategy, try it out several times before I succeeded and I enjoyed that, Souls-likes SHOULD be difficult, isn't that a major factor of the entire genre? So the fact that they made the game easier because people struggled was a bit sad in my opinion, especially with regards to the last bosses which were far too easy. I expect the last boss in a Souls-like to be a nightmare to fight through! I have an old shitty PC and ran the entire game on medium/low settings. I only experienced lag/stutter/fps drops when I had updated the NVIDIA drivers and booted up the game, it disappeared after a minute or two. I had one or maybe two crashes in total in 106 hours of play and despite my low graphics I thought the game looked beautiful. Only textures/coding layers I saw were the lava from the Lightreaper. I haven't played CO-OP or PvP so I can't comment on that. All in all, despite the fact that the game could've used another 6 months and more beta testing/feedback from the community, I'm in love with it and I'm happy to see the devs working so hard to make sure we're all happy with it.
Hey Ruri, if you still want to try to play agility spear try out the skinstealer spear. I’m going after my 4th beacon and it feels good so far. S scaling and burn damage! It’s a rare drop but dual wielding them is a good time. Using fire damage runes in one spear and health on kill on the other.
É nois Ruri! Love your videos brother Im really liking the game too, got this one instead of Lies of P mostly because of the medieval and demon tropes. Only thing is I think I missed some area or something so I’m feeling a bit weak at level 50 but I’m looking for what I missed hahah Cheers!
I have a 4090, 13900ks and my crashes have disappeared ever since I tuned the power maximum of my cpu. It's also worth mentioning that I got about 10% increased performance by doing this.
My biggest gripe with the game to this point, the severe overuse of mini bosses as mobs. I just got through The Manse of the Hallowed sisters, and now the boss at the start of that level, and the one at the end, are now both mobs, at The Empyeran, with movesets that aren't meant to be used outside the initial arena you respectively fight them in.
@@fastenedcarrot9570 Personally it didn't take away from the P experience too much, aside from some tedium. My second playthrough was much smoother thankfully.
Fantastic review. Really detailed and entertaining. Hopefully most of the issues related to performance and multiplayer will be resolved as soon as possible. I'll definitely pick up this game when my buddy and I decide to start a co-op playthrough. Lies of P scratched my "souls" itch for now and I'll be busy playing Metal Gear Collection, Alan Wake 2 and Like a Dragon Gaiden for the rest of the year.
I ran in to an infuriating bug on PS5. I was trying to get the Grace of Adyr helms in Bramis castle. I had knocked the items down, but before I could pick them up, my game crashed while fighting enemies. When I went back, the items weren't there. I cannot get them to respawn. Now I can't get certain trophies now either.
I’ve been really enjoying Lords of the Fallen. I’m actually in Lower Calrath where first bit of gameplay here is taking place. What is the healing spell you keep using that makes the gold circle on the ground? I haven’t used any magic at all so far in playthrough, so I’m totally unfamiliar.
I like this game. Me and my homie bought it day 1. We've been having nonstop connection/technical issues. The game crashes a lot for both of us too. But it's super laggy on Xbox as well.
My suggestion for people wanting to play this is to wait two months when it will cost like $30. Full price is way too much for what is currently on offer.
Definitely not true everything at offer is worth it’s price it’s just a lot of problems with performances most of the gameplay and design are definitely top notch imo I’m 50 hours in last boss
The game is amazing aside from performance, which sounds like it's a bit of a lottery right now. I'm personally loving this game, but that's because performance issues are very few and far between.
100% disagree. I would pay $80 for this game. I genuinely love this game way more than Lise of p. Yes, it's just an opinion but man - as a souls fan this completely took care of that craving. Mind you I had absolutely not one stutter or crash. The only criticism I could give it is regarding the lock on needs work (ps5)- aside from that I am loving this game. When I beat lies of p I was at the edge of my seat waiting to just finish it, which normally when I beat a souls game, I am trying to prolong the game and planning my second playthru lies was the first souls like that. I did not want to replay and actually just gave it away. I still think lies is a 8/10 but this one I put this in the same boat as revenant 2. I know Zoe take, but I actually love this more than dark souls one. My stance on this game did not come about until I reached maybe Midway.
@@uzuvibe5420for $70 I expect a fully functioning game, not one that I have to restart every hour to prevent memory leak, that I have to run in performance mode to hit 60 frames, and that can potentially reset your character progress in co op mode. If fromsoft released a game in this state we would be criticizing them, no reason to let these guys off easy.
@@HiroThatDudeI love had over 10 crashes on ps5, worse performance I’ve ever seen on a game, and my save file got corrupted(lost all data)after a crash. Luckily I cloud saved the day before, instead of losing 45 hours I lost 8, I was still fucking livid. Didn’t even play online, game just randomly crashed. Now I have to cloud save every hour so. Cus if I lost my data I’ll never touch this garbage again.
Another podcast between you and Ratatoskr would be interesting because he really did not like it. Lol Although, I don't think he even finished the game so, it might be pointless.
Great review. I personally decided not to get LotF. After watching your playthrough (currently ep.06) I really disliked that you can´t run like 5 seconds without having enemies spawning in - and I don´t mean just in umbral. Even when watching this review and you´re running around in axiom there are far too many of those simpleton enemies around. Not like they are of any difficulty, but the sheer amount is just tiring
I feel like that last example about how easy the bosses are may be a bit unfair, your explanation sounds like a certain eyeball that you have taken advantage of for your build otherwise you would have probably been slapped. I do agree with 90% of everything you talked about, very good vid and review.
It needs a ton of work. Im more than half way through, and most deaths aew bullshit platformoing, failed lock ons, and thier usual shit sniper gank bs. The abuse of gotcha shit, and enemy aggro and aim ruins game. Plus they also ruined an awesome mechanic, 2 worlds, with bullshit enemy spawn and a terrible idea of living and dead enemies in umbral. They tried to make this hard to be hard, like theyre pioneers of souls now. They arent. Game is cheap bullshit.
I have not had any crashes on my PC on ultimate settings. What I have experienced while playing with council players is a lag, but it only happens when playing with council players as hosts.
People are being way too generous for this game I think a 5/10 would be too good They screwed up the most important aspect of the game Gameplay mechanics
My game crashed over 50 times while playing it. even turned Hardware RT fumen off. AMD RX 6600xt. Some people have no issues, though. Or they are too big AMD fanboys to admit it. I'm though the game, though.
I really enjoy LoP because its basically an exact replica of a DS game in a different setting. So far, I really like this game (or at least the first 8 hours) because it's trying to not exactly be DS. Despite, what I gather, the dev team has said.
I'm only in the area where you are spending the majority of this review playing through, and am mostly really enjoying it. But I also liked DS2, and this is basically that game on crack.
I've been loving LotF! I can see myself doing a few playthroughs as there's a number cool build ideas that spring to mind! The fashion is also a 10/10! My main complaint is that I found myself losing track of the next beacon to cleanse pretty frequently (I missed 2 of the earlier ones & ended up cleansing the Castle one before the snow/fire areas), so some way to indicate if a player has missed one of main areas/vestiges would be helpful (similar to how DS2 showed any undiscovered bonfires in the menu).
if only you can wear the armor with almost useless stats without being weighed down...i hate that. The stats on armor dont mean anything. You can go naked and have the same experience so the armor should just be cosmetic with no effect on roll speed
Yeah, I'm doing what I did with Elden Ring and waiting a half year for them to iron out a good number of things. I don't mind being a beta tester when I sign up for that like for BG3 Early Access but am not willing to do it for a game that's supposedly ready for release.
Your using that Umbral eye that coverts damage to grey when charging an attack? I hope they don’t adjust boss difficulty until they balance ‘broken’ items.
I enjoy the game, and I agree with just about everything but the spells. Yes, it's nice not having to switch between spells on the fly. But, having the lantern button and the ranged button being the same was/is so disorienting. Can't count the number of times I meant to use a spell but used the lamp instead. 35 hours into it and still can't get that mechanic down
Ik you're not worried about it. But pvp is a goddamn mess right now. Everything is based around hard metas right now. Due to a bug, we believe, you can personally refresh the boss shop meaning you can get two pietas swords, the meta weapon right now. The radiance spell from pieta is also busted in pvp simply because of the lag generally in co-op and pvp. Pvp generally is a mess right now.
I like Sekiro more, and I still had more fun playing LotF. The parry it's a lot closer to Sekiro there. Also, lies of P enemies have the most awkward weird unintuitive movesets I've ever seen, which makes the fights extra hard and painful.
That actually hits the nail on the head. Loved bloodborne and sekiro more than DS and I loved Lies of Pi. I still think I'm gonna get Lirds of the fallen because I really enjoy a good exploration and mysterie and LoP wasnt as strong in this category
The game runs good on ps5 I haven’t had any crashes or anything that stood out in particular other than lol ping in pvp but that could’ve been on my end
so im a sekiro hater for the combat but a dark souls connoisseur and lies of p movement felt crisp af so that i felt right at home from the getgo! no technical difficulties whatsoever big recommend to lies of p for ppl that still havent decided yet
Personally LotF is a good game but I question some of the design choices. I would have loved to explore the world of Umbra but due to the scarlet reaper breathing down my neck every three minutes it gave me less incentive to truly explore the world. The only time I would really go into Umbra was whenever the game forced me to move a platform for the sake of progression. They also could of used a couple more permenant vestige points. On paper allowing the player to lay down their own checkpoints is fine but in practice it kinda sucks. I always ended up saving my seeds for flowerbeds near bosses and literally just ran past everything. Maybe it was just me but the bosses felt a little too easy?
I wonder what i have wrong on ps5. My throwables if i wind up the throwable char just tosses the holy thing on the ground where i am and not enemym dont have this problem with throwable spear that the char chucks at enemy. Do i have some toggle on?
I am really having fun with the game ... the bosses tho are not challenging even with making sure i dont overlevel and melee only. I struggled with lies of P as well and found learning boss patterns quite challenging and fun ... wished lotf had bosses more challenging that the areas.
Yea, underwhelming unthreatening bosses are the biggest issue I had with the game. They are so slow and have low HP. In Lies of P, I was looking for openings in combos, here I was looking for combos in all the openings. And the boss music was so weak most of the time. The issue is they made them like DS1 and 2 bosses, but players have abilities from ER, BB, Sekiro, and so on, so the player overwhelms them.
I haven't encountered any technical or performance issues. could be because I have a 4090, but I've been playing on 4k with all the max settings and haven't encountered any issues. I had some frame drops in skyrest bridge when I was playing borderless windowed, but after switching to fullscreen it was running at 100+ fps. other than that, it's all good. for some reason the v-sync and reflex settings are grayed out in my UI, so I don't know whether those are on or off and I can't change them, but I didn't notice any screen tearing or input latency, so I didn't worry about it, just kept playing. I imagine if you have a 20 series or 30 series GPU you'd be better off playing at a lower resolution/resolution scale, but surely there's a way to get the game to run at 60 fps consistently on any recent hardware if I'm able to get such good performance with these settings. the game looks incredible, I was frankly shocked at how consistent the framerate is. Lies of P is also great in that respect, but it doesn't look nearly as visually impressive as this game does. I can see this game having a lot more replayability than Lies of P, personally. I don't really feel called to do another playthrough of Lies of P. before I get around to that I'll probably play more Remnant 2 and Armored Core 6, since those games seem to have more replay value. with Lies of P, all you get for extra playthroughs are stronger versions of rings, plus some records, which you're probably not gonna listen to anyway, because you can't listen to them while you're actually playing. whereas with Remnant 2 you can easily do 10 playthroughs and still not collect every weapon or archetype - the draw for new playthroughs are items that actually affect the gameplay. same with AC6, not quite as much there, but you get actual weapons and parts for further playthroughs. I suppose that the souls games, bloodborne, and sekiro also had relatively low replayability in comparison to some of these more recent games. but the souls games had great PvP, and bloodborne and sekiro were just such amazing worlds and the gameplay was so incredibly polished that you could play them every couple years indefinitely and not get bored. I don't know that Lies of P's gameplay was really that compelling, nor was its world. it was definitely enjoyable for me, and I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who has enjoyed any of these games, but it's certainly no bloodborne or sekiro. honestly, nothing has ever come close to the feeling of playing bloodborne for the first time.
also, it seems like Lies of P is shorter? I finished it pretty quickly, and it would have been a lot quicker if I had played after the patches that made everything easier. previously I might have wasted like 3 hours fighting the semi-final boss of that game, because it was such an absurd damage sponge and its attacks are absurdly hard to dodge. not the enjoyable kind of difficulty, if I'm being honest. so I'm not surprised they made it easier, along with lots of other things. after removing some of that artificial difficulty padding the play time, the game is probably a lot shorter on average. I can't give an estimate since I leave these games running in the background all the time, but it just felt much shorter than lords of the fallen. actually, lords of the fallen is longer than any souls game I've played, I think. definitely longer than bloodborne or sekiro, right? maybe even longer than dark souls 2 with all its DLC, which is really saying something.
The game is beyond frustrating. I love getting lost and suddenly being lead to an area that is far above my current strength, but when it's so hard to get there because of how many ambushes or enemies I had to get through, it's not an appealing prospect. You'll find me just not bothering to explore, finding a good farming spot, farming my souls, getting the right levels, and then proceeding to the boss if they're going to do that. Instead of encouraging players to explore this world they crafted, they are discouraging players from doing it. Creating tension is one thing, making it it hard but not equally rewarding is another. And inb4 "your reward is getting through the level/skirmish", no. Overcoming a challenge is one thing, but when you're giving me 80 souls + a consumable to slowly regen mana to kill an elite that takes 20 attacks to kill while they can 1-2 shot me, that's not rewarding, it's frustrating.
My suggestion is to get Lies of P and wait for LOTF on sales, if you still in doubt you can just compare them from livestreams just 1-2 episodes and you will see what i meant.
I'm enjoying it, but Lies of P was so much more polished. I hope they could fix the issues because there's a great game here. Lies of P was the shiznit though. GOTY so far.
It brought back the world design from Dark Souls 1, the conectivity, the atmosphere. This game is just amazing
Agree with your points. Overall love the game. My biggest gripe is the lock-on camera. It's gotten me killed so many times.
100%
yea i hate when i try to lock onto someone and I DONT!
me screaming at the screen "it's right thereeeee! why can't you lock at him, he'sgonna hit me and now a looking the other direction! it's right there" and i'm dead
This game has a few technical issues, but they have been relatively minor for me. I just can't put this game down, it's like a return to form for the souls series and I love that. Probably the closest game to Dark Souls 1 since that game came out years ago
I genuinely love this game. Glad to see like minded spirits in this!
Except for the swarms of 10 trash mobs and one dmg sponge that are a regular occurrence.
@@ironmaidenmetalgod it's really not that bad. Don't rush through the levels. Ive been doing tons of coop now 70hrs in and 90% of the time, the host is just impatient and gets swarmed by enemies cause they don't take their time. Use ranged attacks and constantly use vestige seeds to keep level progression.
Couldn't agree more
Great comment. I feel exactly the same!👍
The lock on system is by far the worst I’ve ever experienced but other than that it’s a fine game
Lock on is so fucking busted. It’s gotten me killed too many times
ya 70% of the time target switching dont even work for me
I made a ranged only build using the Harrower Delva Boss Crossbow with the Umbral eye that gives you unlimited ammo. It supposed to trade wither damage for the ammo but that 3 shot crossboy seems to just fill up your health as soon as you hit anything. Its pretty broken and just melts enemies.
Really appreciate your insight. Performance issues plagued my first 5 hours of the game. The constant patches seem to have helped. There is too much momentum in movements through the dodging/weapon swinging. I am loving the exploration but so far 15 hours in, preferring lies of P. Will give it more time
by performance issues I mean fps drops, stuttering game crashes, I have a 30 series gpu and an i9900k so its not hardware related playing on recommended settings
@@joemurrayjust stick with p. Worth playing at least 3 times
The last level, that last big room in particular with the staircase, was absolutely brutal and beyond frustrating. The boss you mention with the monologue was also one of the biggest letdowns in recent memory for me. Decent game, and if LoP hadn't just come out and the performance issues weren't as bad, I think this game would have been received more positively. But the enemy spam throughout the whole game, as well as comical balance issues make this a significant step down from LoP for me. By balance issues, I'm referring to the fact that the levels were as frustrating as they were, and meanwhile I was absolutely melting bosses on the first attempt while practically face tanking with healing to spare. I used the 3rd boss's weapon, the halberd, fully upgraded it pretty early and respecced once to move 5 or 6 points from agi to str and I was tearing thru boss health bars in like 4-5 3 hit combos.
Unfortunately that's kind of how LoP is post nerf patch. As it is now the large respawning elite puppet mobs are harder than most of the bosses. Unless advance just happens to be busted, because that's how I've been playing through it.
@@mintparfaitthat has not been my experiencr at all and I have only played post patch. The areas between bosses are hard and bosses are harder, at least most of them. And any "miniboss" enemies that respawn do not even compare in difficulty to a boss like Puppet King.
@@CrabeVideos Maybe advance is just really busted then because puppet king was one of my biggest disappointments. Stagger chained him with the lightning arm the first attempt. Died more to the clown patrollers and the spider girls leading up to him 😂
@@CrabeVideosI can tell you that they nerfed the bosses in LoP pretty hard...They had much more HP and put out much more damage pre nerf! They also nerfed a bunch of the elites, because they were just as hard as some bosses before the nerf...
@@mintparfaitAdvance builds can definitely be really strong for most of the game, main because you can put out a ton of damage and you can use quick weapons to do it...Plus you get really good scaling on the staus effect legion arms and throwables
Ruri I love your candid take on this game. It seems like something I would really enjoy. I was not pulled in by what I saw of Lies of P. This seems much more my style, though a bit more dark that I would normally prefer. Still the build diversity sounds fantastic. That was my favorite part of Elden Ring, accessibility to a bunch of different builds and play styles.
The judge cleric radiant sentinel 2nd phase is the peak of what you said regarding excessive particle effects. Immpossible to see anything in melee range.
I think a better way to put it would be, "Do you like sekiro, bloodborne and the accompanying world, lore, quality associated with those games. Or Do you like Dark souls 2 but not as obnoxious but still close and worse enemy variety?" Because LOTF reminds me a lot of what Ds2 does and i don't make it like a positive comparison. This game beats ds2 barely and that's a low bar to clear.
The game isn't all negative, i like how the parry system and rally system work, i think its fantastic. I also love the spell casting, i think this game has better spell casting than actual fromsoft games. And also extends to the throwable system. The weapon designs, some enemy designs and armor designs are also fantastic.
I like the aesthetic of dark souls, demon souls and dark fantasy in general. Lords of the fallen's aesthetic appeals to me a lot more than lie's of P but asthetic alone was the not enough to make that game enjoyable for me. The area's are rough with a lot of enemy spam, snipers, lots of useless trashmobs that just distract you, very very bad enemy variety. Like i've not seen a single unique enemy after like the 12 hour mark. Instead of the seedbeds i would've preferred a more tightly connected level design, I don't think this idea was executed all that well at all. The bosses were very disappointing, all of them just very easy. There are like 2 alright bosses i thought were fun-ish but even those were pretty easy. The parry sounds are weird, fairy dust sound. Weapon sounds are fine but i think there should've been some weapon sounds that were tailor made for specific weapons. Like pieta's sword is a light sword but for some reason it has the same sword sounds and same kind of hitstop.
Umbral looks cool and i love the look of it but overall i think their presentation is poor compared to lies of p. A lot of the area's feel same-y and muddied, the game is weirdly dark a lot of the times and the lighting freaks out way too often, it feels like exiting blightown type of lighting change but it happens frequently. Its fine they went with detail but they skipped out on how to present that in a form that is appealing. The demon soul's remake i think is good comparison, that game has a lot of detail but they also found the balance and how to present it.
Lies of P is just a better game, get that or get gamepass and play it on that if that's cheaper or if you already have it. it sucks to say because I really was looking forward to this game. its not terrible just disappointing.. the ending especially was disappointing. I won't bother doing ng+ or other endings.
About safety and stigmas, I think they do that on purpose...but maybe if the flowers that's like a safe spot kinda, I did notice the eye disappears and the red reaper guy will leave you alone and wait for you to move out of certain areas where flowers are, atleast if there's a vestige. But sometimes they don't care. Maybe if they make it like the flowers are safe, even if it's small areas to stand. It doesn't ruin the pressure the devs want to keep on you but you will atleast be safe till you leave the little area
I absolutely adore this game, despite all the jank. It's flawed in many ways, but for whatever reason, the flaws don't bother me at all. There are so many good ideas here, that just need a bit more polish, but the things that work well, work really well for me. I will say, however, I'm playing on PC, and if someone on Nexus hadn't made a bunch of optimizing engine.ini edits, this game would've been unplayable, and that would've been disappointing.
Pretty much my exact same sentiment. Game has a lot of awesome stuff going for it, but man does it have issues that hold it back. Bugs/performance, enemy density, enemy variety, wonky/inconsistent lock on, floaty/messy feeling combat, and the lack of normal vestiges in new game plus are what gets me. It feels like if they had cut the scope back of what they were trying to achieve we'd have a much more cohesive package
I literally stopped playing after hearing about no vestiges. I cant be bothered to deal with that.
@@Terror_Unit In the patch coming out on Thursday they are adding vestiges to ng+. They were very adamant about not doing that but due to the ever growing number of people vocalizing how stupid that decision was forced them to adjust accordingly.
@@PrecariousHuskAre they? Where did they say that? In the recent live stream Cowboy did with Saul (can’t remember his sir name) he was pretty adamant that they were not.
@@Fishster Yeah, I saw that too. I think something happened between patch 8 & 9 where they realized they had to step outside of their echo chamber and start actually listening to the constructive criticism of their player base. Here is a quote from Patch v1.1.224 that they just issued today.
"A further patch this coming Thursday will see further updates made to the NG+ mode; instead of removing all vestiges (as it does currently), NG+1 will only see a few disappear while keeping the key locations intact. In NG+2, a few more will disappear, and then in NG+3 all but the main HUB (Skyrest Bridge) and Adyr's Shrine vestige will disappear. This way, our initial vision remains intact but is more of a gradual adaptation, awaiting those who seek increasing levels of challenge."
Seems like a reasonable compromise to me.
@@PrecariousHuskThanks for the quick reply. Seems confirmed not only have they back pedalled they seem to have done so pretty dam quick. They are pretty reactive and fast to implement stuff.
Too much detail isn't the issue. When it comes to visual design, you have to be able to design around that. Get people to pay attention to certain visual things with lots of technical methods. There is things you can do with color, or the way the scene is structured. It's the artists job to draw your eyes towards certain key items.
Nice review Ruri. Fair points made. I believe the number one issue with all technical crashes is crowd data. Devs get a lot of feedback from crash reports from various PC builds that exist in the market and they cannot build every variant. So it would have helped to do some Alpha or Beta testing with couple of content creators like you in the start to source all the crashes, collect the bugs and clean the code before final deployment. I hope they watch this review and pick a couple of constructive points with a positive mindset as there is room for improvement.
I'm not going to sugarcoat it, we need more demon souls and less speed souls/shonen souls, the real deal with this series is how weird and memorable some of the encounters were which elevated the more normal and challenging boss encounters, but if everyone is Artorias, then nobody is that special.
nah keep that snail souls to yourself. we want more fast paced action
Honestly, I prefer DS3 style bosses.
In literally every other souls game (except maybe DS2), exploration wasn't as hard as bosses. Here, bosses are much easier and digestible to tackle than exploration, and that's bullshit. You need to understand that you can't make a confusing world that players can get lost but make that more frustrating by making unfair traps, spamming enemies, or spamming ambushes. You choose between the two, but using both at the same time just makes you a d*ck.
People that enjoy this ambush/mob fest that's literally WORSE than DS2 are masochists of the worst kind and masking that as being "pro". If you can't clear every skirmish in this game in less than 2 tries like actually pro players, and you're taking the same or worse time clearing said skirmishes than the average player, you're not a pro at all, you're just a pathological masochist.
I will only accept that if they make Iframes negligible and emphasise more on positioning and dodging entire attack hitboxes - no Iframe combat.
DeS and DS1's combat are not methodical enough to justify their existence. If FromSoft for example want to continue Iframe combat, then there is literally no point in slowing the combat down
@@mhk6943 Right. This is why AC6's combat works. Positioning is given far more emphasis, and iframing is non-existent. It offers more ways to mitigate damage, and you can adjust how fast you "dodge" or strafe.
Slowing down combat when enemies are spammed against you doesn't make it methodical, it makes it tedious because of how little hits you can push back vs the 1000 attacks a whole battalion throws at you.
What I would love is for reviews to be upfront. I got the game on ps5 and the FPS is horrible sometimes and that’s a turnoff for me. I hope they work and fix this
I mentioned this.
There memory leak in the hub area lol
Yeah the devs paid a bunch of streamers to stream the game on their monster pcs for a couple hours and made sure they weren’t playing on console. It’s borderline immoral to release a game that you know will not function properly, especially when you’re charging $70 for it.
@@rurikhan other reviewers just either did not mention it or made it seem like it was an insignificant issue when in reality it’s something that happens throughout the game. But oh well, this is something that happens nowadays and it shouldn’t when there’s a “next gen console” and all games should be running at 60fps all the time
The devs just made a big announcement! New game plus will have vestiges, you can buy respects in the community shrine.
I have not had one crash or performance issue and I have 70+ hours, above Level 110.
My PC Specs: Ryzen 9 CPU, 2070 Super GPU, 64 Gigs of Ram.
That's shitty. They should've stuck to their guns on NG+ instead of listening to the whiny babies on reddit. The game actively encourages you to make mew characters.
NG+ in this game was meant to be a challenge to test your fully built character.
But people got butthurt that NG+ wasn't the "Look at me I'm OP and can smash the game in 2hrs" victory lap like it is in every other game.
EDIT: I went and read the patch notes. After NG+3 Vestiges will be gone but on NG+1 and 2 they will slowly go away. Alternatively, trophy hunters can use a story reset mode to reset their NG save and finish hunting trophies.
You made it sound like they just caved to the complainers lol. They actually made a really really good compromise
you are such an excellent reviewer. loved the stream series!
Been looking forward to this review! Definitely gonna wait for a sale for this game. In the mean time I picked up a physical copy of remnant 2 on sale!
I finished the platinum on this yesterday and man oh man! I absolutely enjoyed most of my time with this game(over 300 hours and 3 full playthroughs, NG+0 and NG+1 on the last run). But some of the drop rates on certain armor pieces are atrocious to get that platinum! I really commend the devs for doing their best and pumping out patches left and right to make the game enjoyable. I don’t necessarily agree with them on everything but it is super encouraging to see them listen to the community for the most part and improve the game while still trying to keep their original vision alive as I respect that. I hope other devs and publishers will follow suit and we get spoiled with more great games. This game is definitely not for everyone but I did thoroughly enjoy it. Love the content Ruri keep up the excellent work sir!
The monolog moments, they can do it like Gideon. Either you choose to listen it, or if you don't want to, you can just interrupt it, and maybe get like different dialog like they get angry or something.
Great review. This is exactly what I predicted: there was no way the studio was going to be able to live up to the insane hype around this game, but it would be a decent game. They should fire their marketing. This should have come out as a sleeper success that punched way above its expectations and set up the studio for future funding success. Clearly someone got greedy and wanted to cash out by overpromising on their first real big ticket game.
The souls community keeps complaining about Elden Ring DLC release delay, but one of the things FromSoftware does very well is to keep their mouths shut, underpromise, and overdeliver. They learned their lesson from Dark Souls 2 and seem to now be immune from being rushed to push out unfinished product, at least for PVE. Other studios should do this too. Everyone’s vision is too short term, they seem to only care about making money on the next game instead of focusing on building a loyal fan base over a decade or more. Miyazaki succeeded in getting people who had never seen an Armored Core game to buy it because they liked other games by FromSoftware. That’s how you build real value, not flash marketing scheme.
Hear hear!
Im loving this game and am surprised there are as many people as there are putting it down! I love navigating my way around the large levels and fighting my way outta umbral.
The title is how I feel about it. I like jt but man there's technical problems that take Me out of it. I'm playing on ps5 turned off all the graphical things and in fps focused mode. Between this and lies of p being so close to each other, I love lies more. I am going to keep pushing through lords hopefully builds feel better.
If you're keeping up with upgrades (not over leveling, but upgrading weapon and some main stat), the enemy density is fine. You're supposed to like 2 slap the mooks, 4 shot the slightly bigger and badder guys, then 8 maybe for the really scary guys. You should be able to take former bosses pretty handily. This is just a rule of thumb, however i am basing this on a game mechanic. Your weapons should be hitting white to red numbers, if you're seeing grey, you're under leveled
Grey numbers = damage resisted
Your level isn't a factor.
Grey numbers = resistance. Your level does not matter. Your upgrades don't matter. It's not about people being underleveled. It's about the game relying on a crutch to make it challenging. The problem is, it overuses it. Hell, even on the very first area AFTER Pieta, the first few enemies you encounter are snipers from hard to reach places or plain unreachable places, not counting the THREE ambushes waiting for you from your VERY first drop, and they're LESS THAN 5 steps of each other, no kidding. This is not OK. If you're going to make a game challenging, make them smart and tricky, but don't rely on ambushes to make your trash (in both the mechanical and moveset sense) mobs functional because you hid them in a sneaky position. It's like the people who designed the mobs thought they'd be good hindrances to the player, but the gameplay department disagreed and instead of redesigning the monsters, spammed them and positioned them in sneaky places and situations.
It's not "challenging to keep evading or blocking for 5 minutes and get a single hit every once in a while to clean up a skirmish. When the bosses are less challenging than traversing the level, you KNOW the design is just trash. Bosses are BOSSES for a reason. I didn't feel bad trying Pieta 3x to beat, infact each between deaths it was invigorating, since it was fun to learn and deal with the delayed (cheap) attacks, but even dying ONCE because of the backstabbers or unrendered distance snipers felt EXTREMELY frustrating.
They call it their "vision", making excuses for bad enemy placement, but in truth there was a disconnect between the gameplay department vs the enemy design department. In Lies of P, they MAY rely too much on sneaky situations mentioned above, but at the very least, the more it happened between each Stargazer/Bonfire, the more rewarding the encounter was (could be in the form of Ergo/Souls, or items). Here, it's just there to hamper you, and discourage exploration. Instead of being able to truly explore, you spend 90% of your time cleaning up skirmishes, or just running past them to get to the boss where it's more enjoyable to fight.
@@yvannenikolainethercott5709 Yes some enemies will resist you regardless of level, but there are enemies i was hitting grey, i leveled, and then started hitting normally. It has to be both then.. IDK, i can see where you're coming from but i don't think it's that bad. Maybe the ranged enemies can feel cheaply placed, and maybe shit can be a bit overdone lol, but i still like it.
It's not even about being able to take them down, lol. They could all have 1 HP and it would still be an annoyance.
The fact them stupid fucking dogs and gremlin things all have Havel poise is an even bigger issue too. The game was just made obnoxiously.
The Souls Community should be happy their genre is getting more love and interesting games made for them.
The community needs to understand that Lies of P & Lords of The Fallen are 2 similar but different games with what experiences they provide. Lies of P is more linear when it comes to exploration but has a more polished combat system akin to SEKIRO.
Lords of The Fallen i see as more of a Dark Souls 1 experience (although plagued with omtimization issues & some jank) where the exploration and dual world Umbral system is the meat of the game hiding all sorts of goodies in there while also being a dangerous zone the longer you stay in it, its not supposed to be easy in the realm of the undead.
Overall this game isnt bad and definitely doesn't deserve scores on the level of Redfall or Forspoken when those games are definitely far worse than this game.
so you’re not allowed to criticize anything anymore?
@@ninjafrog6966 not at all what I said, but you'll probably bicker and argue amongst your fellow brothers who play the same genre of games and insult them just because they have different opinions and experiences than what you had when we're all fans of the Souls formula.
It's a Souls game for a different Souls player.
The only problem I have is there are too many mobs. It is not the notes that make beautiful music, but the silence between the notes.
Well made review. Thank you. I especially appreciate the examples you made about LOTF being more like DS/DeS and Lies of P being more like BB/sekiro...it was very apt. thanks again.
this is absolutely the best review ive seen of this game. every other review just spews the negative and i just couldnt bring myself to listen to them because it just felt like their vids were rushed. nearly every single one I watched does not even talk about the 2 world stuff or build diversity and didnt even mention the game had a co-op system or that there are ruins you can put into your weapons or that throwables are not complete ass. you managed to show the good things about this game while talking about the negatives without sounding like youre just whining about something absolutely irrelevant to the quality of the game.
so many reviews complained about enemy density but now that you mention it, those clips were all in umbral and they were just getting swarmed by the dudes. never knew it was intended to be like that.
anyways, thanks for the great review! defo buying this game in a few weeks.
I've not been able to stop playing this since launch. I had to stop playing Lies of P after about 12 hours of the same environment, enemies and super boring level design.
LotF has some unfortunate issues, for sure. But its level design is on par with From Software. That's not hyperbole. If you're a fan of truly interconnected worlds with smart shortcuts and rewarding secrets, this game might actually be one of the best at it.
Both single player and co op benefit from umbral and the lamp mechanics. It's pretty intense when you're watching the clock while trying to fight your way to the next area back to safety. It can get pretty intense.
This is a Flawless Review, well done! LOTF is not made for people without patience, an amazing game in this genre should be both fun and Annoying to trigger the rewards system in your brain and make you excited while you pass through a certain area or explore or acquire loot ---- there must be respect for all the team behind this game, they did quite a lot, weapons and armor sets are amazing in this game - FromSoft is not close in terms of weapons and armors etcetera... - in my impression, this games need time to fix the unreal engine issues and can get 9/10
I'd be happy at this point if there are no game breaking bugs in coop. Been playing with a friend on pc and we've been having a blast but not being able to run or jump as a guest just sucks. Not to mentioned invisible enemies in the umbral world and having to spam the dodge button to climb ladders. It's been over a week and these issue have still not been resolved. I've checked online and apparently these bugs are only effecting those who are playing with their friends on steam.
I have been going back an forth between loving and hating this game, but over it was fun...The levels were the best part for me, I loved getting lost and exploring the world! I played on PC and I never had a single crash, but I had plenty of wierd visual bugs and enemies getting stuck and stuff like that...I didn't many performance issues either except at the main hub area, and the very last level, but overall it was pretty smooth...I'm not super sensitive to minor bugs and things like that, but my biggest gripe for this game is the lack of enemy variety, especially torwards the end of the game! They recycled alot of enemies over and over at the end...I really hope someone will make an overhaul mod for this game, because I can see alot of potential!
Aside from the abundance of annoying enemies in certain areas, I had a pretty good time with this game. Surprisingly I only had 3 crashes during my 39 hour playthrough but that's not to discredit the people that have been experiencing frequent crashes.
I haven't had a single crash and I'm around 50hrs in. My buddy had his crash when we were doing multiplayer 1 time
I’ve had close to 10 crashes and a files save corrupt on ps5. This games a fucking mess.
@@ronthorn3 was it multiplayer related? The multiplayer is Hella bugged out.
Both my buddy and I are *trying*to co-op through and we both have the exact same sentiment. Like almost exactly after talking for several days.
I totally agree with you on the visual clutter. I realized that just about every environment has a blanket of haze which gets really old. I think it could have worked in a handful of places for atmosphere but they went way overboard. There’s also just a lot of detail that doesn’t seem to add to the look of the game and even detracts from a lot of the more interesting visual elements and design language.
I also think that unreal engine doesn’t do a good job scaling the LOD (despite that being one of the main selling points). I played on PS5 and was constantly distracted by rendering artifacts like ladders popping out of existence but leaving shadows or particles of soot/snow/dust leaving trails or confusing scaled textures that ended up looking like white noise.
Lighting also seems to be an issue because it is so slow to load in some areas and I even had boss fights that took a second to render the boss and arena after the cutscene.
Had Lies of P not released before LotF I'd have probably enjoyed it way more. Sadly, Lies of P released with actual polish while LotF released with some cool ideas and jank....and it looks like a ps3 game on the xbox X
Im suprised with how many "Lord of Fallen bad" videos that are cropping up at this point, i havent finished it yet but i think its best described as "its good, but with a lot of little annoy issues" thats what i think about it at least but generally enjoy it
A lot of little things add up very quickly and are often the result of each other. It’s starts a chain link of issues that can end up locking up the games fun when you can’t even play due to frame rate stutter and lag. The most important aspect is performance
issues and the fact they haven’t fixed them on Xbox is atrocious especially when the games been out for Almost a month. This game is unfinished and needed atleast 6 more months to polish it out, but to meet deadlines the game was rushed out in a poor state, yet they still feel like charging 70$.
All you need is Rosumands Sword. Freaking love this sword. But you basically have to create a build with this sword in mind. As I believe you need strength, agility, radiance, and inferno which is ridiculous but it's a badass weapon
Just change one of the scaling to the other from socket runies. Also, you can do this one on the right and left reaper sword on the left as also is light and has forest damage. I use those 2 in combination
The requirements for this sword is reminding me of Artorias' Greatsword from Dark Souls 1. Also a great weapon.
Is that helmet Fitzroy's helm? Looks so much like the faraam helm from behind
😅 yea I remember also Legacy of kain I feel old already 2
Thank you for info and review
Have good days 🍻👍
I am watching this after the new patch and update they announced, sounds like the game is gonna get better and better as we go
I play an umbral knight...can confirm, sound desing gets pretty freaky
I usually agree with you ruri but this time i can't
I'm more of a DS/DeS player but i still prefer lies of P
I think lord of the fallen have too much problem for me to be enjoyed, i didn't have fun at all in this game
I beat it the first week so they probably changed a lot, but not matter how hard they patch the game it will never change honestly
animations are not good ( you told yourself we move to far when we move, and i think it's really bad)
They're too much ennemies, the bosses are REALLY BAD, it's been a while i didn't encounter bad bosses like that, even DS2 had better bosses...
They had a lot of idea but most of them are badly executed
To finish on a good note, how they made the two world with no loading is incredible and i can't wait to see what they're doing next if they learn how to really make a good game
Particle effects are definitely to be used judiciously. In most games I dislike them, and it's particularly stark in this game. I love the game overall though. Target lock needs fixing!
The soundtrack is phenomenal. I really recommend listening to it on its own - when you can appreciate it whilst not being swarmed by enemies 😂
Been playing on High/Medium since the start, tried to switch to Ultra and yeaaaah :D Khan is right, sometimes is a bit too much. Hurts clarity a bit.
As for number of enemies and placement, haven't noticed anything egregious so far, but I'm only half-way through, I guess later areas could be bad, dunno. Thanks for all the streams and content Khan, and the always cool chats with Cowboy. Keep it up.
I've had two crashes on ps5 and an incident which kinda worried me I was going through an area running from a ton of enemies and it turned into a slideshow where I got to a vestige and then after resting it was fine. It's just weird I've never seen the system take a poop like that
106 hours into the game, I've completed all the endings. I love love love the game, but like most people, I think it has some things to improve on. I want a chest for storage, I want the Bowl of Revelations/Remembrances to transfer into NG+, I want a way to sort through my inventory based on name/set, weight or type. I feel like they could've made resistances a little bit more impactful so that I had to put on a specific ring for a boss fight or use my consumeables more. I'd want a list of exactly which items you need for the specific trophies because the wiki is still lacking a little bit.
I don't have an issue with the sounds. The lock-on is a little bit fuzzy but you get used to the forward momentum and watching your step around ledges/heights. I think I read in one of the earlier patch notes that they significantly decreased mob density and boss difficulty which made me sad because my first run through the game it was difficult and challenging and it forced me to PLAN and THINK on how to get past a ridiculously mob-tight area. I had to develop a strategy, try it out several times before I succeeded and I enjoyed that, Souls-likes SHOULD be difficult, isn't that a major factor of the entire genre? So the fact that they made the game easier because people struggled was a bit sad in my opinion, especially with regards to the last bosses which were far too easy. I expect the last boss in a Souls-like to be a nightmare to fight through!
I have an old shitty PC and ran the entire game on medium/low settings. I only experienced lag/stutter/fps drops when I had updated the NVIDIA drivers and booted up the game, it disappeared after a minute or two. I had one or maybe two crashes in total in 106 hours of play and despite my low graphics I thought the game looked beautiful. Only textures/coding layers I saw were the lava from the Lightreaper. I haven't played CO-OP or PvP so I can't comment on that.
All in all, despite the fact that the game could've used another 6 months and more beta testing/feedback from the community, I'm in love with it and I'm happy to see the devs working so hard to make sure we're all happy with it.
Hey Ruri, if you still want to try to play agility spear try out the skinstealer spear. I’m going after my 4th beacon and it feels good so far. S scaling and burn damage! It’s a rare drop but dual wielding them is a good time. Using fire damage runes in one spear and health on kill on the other.
É nois Ruri!
Love your videos brother
Im really liking the game too, got this one instead of Lies of P mostly because of the medieval and demon tropes.
Only thing is I think I missed some area or something so I’m feeling a bit weak at level 50 but I’m looking for what I missed hahah
Cheers!
I have a 4090, 13900ks and my crashes have disappeared ever since I tuned the power maximum of my cpu.
It's also worth mentioning that I got about 10% increased performance by doing this.
My biggest gripe with the game to this point, the severe overuse of mini bosses as mobs.
I just got through The Manse of the Hallowed sisters, and now the boss at the start of that level, and the one at the end, are now both mobs, at The Empyeran, with movesets that aren't meant to be used outside the initial arena you respectively fight them in.
Interesting anecdote, I have a 5600 and 7800XT and had 0 crashes, vs Lies of P where I crashed really often.
You're the only person I've seen that has had that experience with the two games. It's a shame that happened though.
How come I smell BS.
@@fastenedcarrot9570 Personally it didn't take away from the P experience too much, aside from some tedium. My second playthrough was much smoother thankfully.
@@JohnDoe-pu5gk what reason would I have to lie lol. Played through P twice and besides some, imo, gameplay problems it was fantastic.
Looking forward to trying this after the performance issues get ironed out and the game goes on sale.
Fantastic review. Really detailed and entertaining. Hopefully most of the issues related to performance and multiplayer will be resolved as soon as possible. I'll definitely pick up this game when my buddy and I decide to start a co-op playthrough.
Lies of P scratched my "souls" itch for now and I'll be busy playing Metal Gear Collection, Alan Wake 2 and Like a Dragon Gaiden for the rest of the year.
I ran in to an infuriating bug on PS5. I was trying to get the Grace of Adyr helms in Bramis castle. I had knocked the items down, but before I could pick them up, my game crashed while fighting enemies. When I went back, the items weren't there. I cannot get them to respawn. Now I can't get certain trophies now either.
I’ve been really enjoying Lords of the Fallen. I’m actually in Lower Calrath where first bit of gameplay here is taking place. What is the healing spell you keep using that makes the gold circle on the ground? I haven’t used any magic at all so far in playthrough, so I’m totally unfamiliar.
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@@jukka1135 thanks
I like this game. Me and my homie bought it day 1. We've been having nonstop connection/technical issues. The game crashes a lot for both of us too. But it's super laggy on Xbox as well.
This was a Great Review/Critique.
My suggestion for people wanting to play this is to wait two months when it will cost like $30. Full price is way too much for what is currently on offer.
Definitely not true everything at offer is worth it’s price it’s just a lot of problems with performances most of the gameplay and design are definitely top notch imo I’m 50 hours in last boss
The game is amazing aside from performance, which sounds like it's a bit of a lottery right now. I'm personally loving this game, but that's because performance issues are very few and far between.
100% disagree. I would pay $80 for this game. I genuinely love this game way more than Lise of p. Yes, it's just an opinion but man - as a souls fan this completely took care of that craving. Mind you I had absolutely not one stutter or crash. The only criticism I could give it is regarding the lock on needs work (ps5)- aside from that I am loving this game. When I beat lies of p I was at the edge of my seat waiting to just finish it, which normally when I beat a souls game, I am trying to prolong the game and planning my second playthru lies was the first souls like that. I did not want to replay and actually just gave it away. I still think lies is a 8/10 but this one I put this in the same boat as revenant 2. I know Zoe take, but I actually love this more than dark souls one. My stance on this game did not come about until I reached maybe Midway.
@@uzuvibe5420for $70 I expect a fully functioning game, not one that I have to restart every hour to prevent memory leak, that I have to run in performance mode to hit 60 frames, and that can potentially reset your character progress in co op mode. If fromsoft released a game in this state we would be criticizing them, no reason to let these guys off easy.
@@HiroThatDudeI love had over 10 crashes on ps5, worse performance I’ve ever seen on a game, and my save file got corrupted(lost all data)after a crash. Luckily I cloud saved the day before, instead of losing 45 hours I lost 8, I was still fucking livid. Didn’t even play online, game just randomly crashed. Now I have to cloud save every hour so. Cus if I lost my data I’ll never touch this garbage again.
Another podcast between you and Ratatoskr would be interesting because he really did not like it. Lol Although, I don't think he even finished the game so, it might be pointless.
Great review. I personally decided not to get LotF. After watching your playthrough (currently ep.06) I really disliked that you can´t run like 5 seconds without having enemies spawning in - and I don´t mean just in umbral. Even when watching this review and you´re running around in axiom there are far too many of those simpleton enemies around. Not like they are of any difficulty, but the sheer amount is just tiring
I think the fodder is spawning constantly so you can regain your withered health if you need to
I watched the playthroughs and bought it day 1. Having fun on ps5. Been a demons soul fan since ps3
I feel like that last example about how easy the bosses are may be a bit unfair, your explanation sounds like a certain eyeball that you have taken advantage of for your build otherwise you would have probably been slapped. I do agree with 90% of everything you talked about, very good vid and review.
It needs a ton of work. Im more than half way through, and most deaths aew bullshit platformoing, failed lock ons, and thier usual shit sniper gank bs. The abuse of gotcha shit, and enemy aggro and aim ruins game. Plus they also ruined an awesome mechanic, 2 worlds, with bullshit enemy spawn and a terrible idea of living and dead enemies in umbral. They tried to make this hard to be hard, like theyre pioneers of souls now. They arent. Game is cheap bullshit.
Thanks for the review
the beard looking well done
I noticed something when block . If you block magic/wiether damage you never die even if all your health is grey
I have not had any crashes on my PC on ultimate settings. What I have experienced while playing with council players is a lag, but it only happens when playing with council players as hosts.
Thursday the NG+ will not be fully no vestiges but reduced, then NG++ will be further reduced, and the NG+++ will be the current iteration of of NG+
People are being way too generous for this game I think a 5/10 would be too good They screwed up the most important aspect of the game Gameplay mechanics
My game crashed over 50 times while playing it. even turned Hardware RT fumen off. AMD RX 6600xt. Some people have no issues, though. Or they are too big AMD fanboys to admit it. I'm though the game, though.
I really enjoy LoP because its basically an exact replica of a DS game in a different setting.
So far, I really like this game (or at least the first 8 hours) because it's trying to not exactly be DS. Despite, what I gather, the dev team has said.
I'm only in the area where you are spending the majority of this review playing through, and am mostly really enjoying it. But I also liked DS2, and this is basically that game on crack.
I’m loving the game, once they fix the optimization this game will be incredible
I've been loving LotF! I can see myself doing a few playthroughs as there's a number cool build ideas that spring to mind!
The fashion is also a 10/10!
My main complaint is that I found myself losing track of the next beacon to cleanse pretty frequently (I missed 2 of the earlier ones & ended up cleansing the Castle one before the snow/fire areas), so some way to indicate if a player has missed one of main areas/vestiges would be helpful (similar to how DS2 showed any undiscovered bonfires in the menu).
if only you can wear the armor with almost useless stats without being weighed down...i hate that. The stats on armor dont mean anything. You can go naked and have the same experience so the armor should just be cosmetic with no effect on roll speed
Yeah, I'm doing what I did with Elden Ring and waiting a half year for them to iron out a good number of things. I don't mind being a beta tester when I sign up for that like for BG3 Early Access but am not willing to do it for a game that's supposedly ready for release.
Your using that Umbral eye that coverts damage to grey when charging an attack? I hope they don’t adjust boss difficulty until they balance ‘broken’ items.
The enemies are super repetitive, there's dogs and archers in almost every encounter.
I enjoy the game, and I agree with just about everything but the spells. Yes, it's nice not having to switch between spells on the fly. But, having the lantern button and the ranged button being the same was/is so disorienting. Can't count the number of times I meant to use a spell but used the lamp instead. 35 hours into it and still can't get that mechanic down
Ik you're not worried about it. But pvp is a goddamn mess right now.
Everything is based around hard metas right now. Due to a bug, we believe, you can personally refresh the boss shop meaning you can get two pietas swords, the meta weapon right now. The radiance spell from pieta is also busted in pvp simply because of the lag generally in co-op and pvp.
Pvp generally is a mess right now.
I like Sekiro more, and I still had more fun playing LotF. The parry it's a lot closer to Sekiro there. Also, lies of P enemies have the most awkward weird unintuitive movesets I've ever seen, which makes the fights extra hard and painful.
That actually hits the nail on the head. Loved bloodborne and sekiro more than DS and I loved Lies of Pi.
I still think I'm gonna get Lirds of the fallen because I really enjoy a good exploration and mysterie and LoP wasnt as strong in this category
The game runs good on ps5 I haven’t had any crashes or anything that stood out in particular other than lol ping in pvp but that could’ve been on my end
so im a sekiro hater for the combat but a dark souls connoisseur and lies of p movement felt crisp af so that i felt right at home from the getgo! no technical difficulties whatsoever big recommend to lies of p for ppl that still havent decided yet
I've loved everything about this game personally..
Personally LotF is a good game but I question some of the design choices. I would have loved to explore the world of Umbra but due to the scarlet reaper breathing down my neck every three minutes it gave me less incentive to truly explore the world. The only time I would really go into Umbra was whenever the game forced me to move a platform for the sake of progression. They also could of used a couple more permenant vestige points. On paper allowing the player to lay down their own checkpoints is fine but in practice it kinda sucks. I always ended up saving my seeds for flowerbeds near bosses and literally just ran past everything. Maybe it was just me but the bosses felt a little too easy?
I wonder what i have wrong on ps5. My throwables if i wind up the throwable char just tosses the holy thing on the ground where i am and not enemym dont have this problem with throwable spear that the char chucks at enemy. Do i have some toggle on?
NG+ is what happens when devs are delusional and think torture equals good balanced difficulty
You can leave coop btw. You go in settings and multiplayer
I heard in ng+, there are vestiges but you can't travel between them. Only to and from skyrest
I am really having fun with the game ... the bosses tho are not challenging even with making sure i dont overlevel and melee only. I struggled with lies of P as well and found learning boss patterns quite challenging and fun ... wished lotf had bosses more challenging that the areas.
Yea, underwhelming unthreatening bosses are the biggest issue I had with the game. They are so slow and have low HP. In Lies of P, I was looking for openings in combos, here I was looking for combos in all the openings. And the boss music was so weak most of the time. The issue is they made them like DS1 and 2 bosses, but players have abilities from ER, BB, Sekiro, and so on, so the player overwhelms them.
I haven't encountered any technical or performance issues. could be because I have a 4090, but I've been playing on 4k with all the max settings and haven't encountered any issues. I had some frame drops in skyrest bridge when I was playing borderless windowed, but after switching to fullscreen it was running at 100+ fps. other than that, it's all good. for some reason the v-sync and reflex settings are grayed out in my UI, so I don't know whether those are on or off and I can't change them, but I didn't notice any screen tearing or input latency, so I didn't worry about it, just kept playing. I imagine if you have a 20 series or 30 series GPU you'd be better off playing at a lower resolution/resolution scale, but surely there's a way to get the game to run at 60 fps consistently on any recent hardware if I'm able to get such good performance with these settings. the game looks incredible, I was frankly shocked at how consistent the framerate is.
Lies of P is also great in that respect, but it doesn't look nearly as visually impressive as this game does. I can see this game having a lot more replayability than Lies of P, personally. I don't really feel called to do another playthrough of Lies of P. before I get around to that I'll probably play more Remnant 2 and Armored Core 6, since those games seem to have more replay value. with Lies of P, all you get for extra playthroughs are stronger versions of rings, plus some records, which you're probably not gonna listen to anyway, because you can't listen to them while you're actually playing. whereas with Remnant 2 you can easily do 10 playthroughs and still not collect every weapon or archetype - the draw for new playthroughs are items that actually affect the gameplay. same with AC6, not quite as much there, but you get actual weapons and parts for further playthroughs.
I suppose that the souls games, bloodborne, and sekiro also had relatively low replayability in comparison to some of these more recent games. but the souls games had great PvP, and bloodborne and sekiro were just such amazing worlds and the gameplay was so incredibly polished that you could play them every couple years indefinitely and not get bored. I don't know that Lies of P's gameplay was really that compelling, nor was its world. it was definitely enjoyable for me, and I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who has enjoyed any of these games, but it's certainly no bloodborne or sekiro. honestly, nothing has ever come close to the feeling of playing bloodborne for the first time.
also, it seems like Lies of P is shorter? I finished it pretty quickly, and it would have been a lot quicker if I had played after the patches that made everything easier. previously I might have wasted like 3 hours fighting the semi-final boss of that game, because it was such an absurd damage sponge and its attacks are absurdly hard to dodge. not the enjoyable kind of difficulty, if I'm being honest. so I'm not surprised they made it easier, along with lots of other things. after removing some of that artificial difficulty padding the play time, the game is probably a lot shorter on average. I can't give an estimate since I leave these games running in the background all the time, but it just felt much shorter than lords of the fallen. actually, lords of the fallen is longer than any souls game I've played, I think. definitely longer than bloodborne or sekiro, right? maybe even longer than dark souls 2 with all its DLC, which is really saying something.
The game is beyond frustrating. I love getting lost and suddenly being lead to an area that is far above my current strength, but when it's so hard to get there because of how many ambushes or enemies I had to get through, it's not an appealing prospect. You'll find me just not bothering to explore, finding a good farming spot, farming my souls, getting the right levels, and then proceeding to the boss if they're going to do that.
Instead of encouraging players to explore this world they crafted, they are discouraging players from doing it. Creating tension is one thing, making it it hard but not equally rewarding is another. And inb4 "your reward is getting through the level/skirmish", no. Overcoming a challenge is one thing, but when you're giving me 80 souls + a consumable to slowly regen mana to kill an elite that takes 20 attacks to kill while they can 1-2 shot me, that's not rewarding, it's frustrating.
Great review
I love the game . My only problem is the performance. About the particles for me is fine, maybe you getting old Ruri 🤣
Im playing while watching cowboys "lets play" im having a fucking blast
Lies of P, or LOTF, can only afford 1? Get Mario Wonder.....
Played lies of p on game pass, bought lords of the fallen, refunded lords of the fallen, and bought Wonder. It’s been amazing so far.
My suggestion is to get Lies of P and wait for LOTF on sales, if you still in doubt you can just compare them from livestreams just 1-2 episodes and you will see what i meant.
I'm enjoying it, but Lies of P was so much more polished. I hope they could fix the issues because there's a great game here. Lies of P was the shiznit though. GOTY so far.