Excellent advice! I’ve had 5 GSD’s and just got my 6th who is my first 100% East German GSD. His father was German military and he is MORE dog on every level… more energy, more intensity, more aggressive, more territorial, more attached, more dominant…. Greatest Dog I’ve ever had but there’s no way I could have handled him without having experience with calmer GSD’s first. These dogs need a consistent, steady hand, clear boundaries and daily mental and physical exercise.They are definitely not for everyone!
My first GSD was a backyard bred mix of show lines and working lines. Gorgeous dog, always got compliments. Loved people. Easy to train, raise, etc…. With the exception of his numerous health problems…a perfect dog. I decided the 2nd GSD would be from a “champion” line breeder and since the 1st one was easy, I’ll step it up a notch and get a working line. My intention was to go thru Schutzhund with him. Just like yours was German military lines…mine (DDR/Czech) came from a line of border patrol dogs in the old Czechoslovakia - high drive, high energy, extremely territorial. That first year of owning/raising him…omg it was so hard that I almost returned him to the breeder several times. I tried to do the same training program as my previous GSD but he was too much dog for that program. Then Covid shutdown happened and I never got the chance to do Schutzhund with him. Anyway, he just turned 5. He’s very territorial around a 3-5 block radius of home. The amount of exercise I have to do with him to drain his energy is a lot. He challenges me more than my other one ever did. Even though he’s 20-25 pounds lighter than the previous one, he’s much stronger. Unlike my first one, he’s wary of strangers. Anyway, I can go on and on with the differences. My point is…if anyone is reading this and is deciding if they want a working line shepherd…if you’re a first time dog owner, don’t get one. Last thing our breed needs is more GSDs ending up in rescues because you can’t handle them. It takes an experienced GSD owner who has the time to train and drain its energy everyday. Or else you’re gonna have a very destructive dog. A bored intelligent dog is not a fun dog to own.
@d05wtt had working line dogs before and hybrids....though my next dog might be my limit. Working line czech vlcak or czech wolfdog or a lycan shepherd a developing wolf hybrid working breed. Even low to mid content it's gonna be hectic.
Retired firefighter who is a strong, smaller lady, but very fit. I had “hard” herding dogs my entire life. ALL working dogs are much more difficult and different than a “regular” dog. I have temperament tested dogs for many years. I have some aggressive herding dogs( GSDs are herding dogs) and yes, they will bite everyone who comes on my property. I live in a meth infested area. I have a business at my home. I have been robbed. I own a weapon. I don’t have family. I don’t have friends. I don’t socialize my dogs. I have trained dogs for veterans. You cannot food train these dogs. They work hand in hand with people for generations and you can’t train behaviors out of a dog that has been bred into them for generations. This was a great video. Yes, I am a bossy owner. I have never treat trained. Love my dogs. I am the boss.
I have an east German working line female with me currently. She's allot of dog to handle but has been great with my kids and family. After a relationship split I moved her into my parents house. One day two men tried to push their way into the house whilst I was at work and my mom was out shopping. My dad was in his seventies and had no way to protect himself against them. They pushed him backwards off the doorstep and luckily he was able to open the door to the living room where my dog went into protection mode naturally and probably saved his life..
There’s a difference between a dog stopping a bad buy and stopping a bad buy after he’s hurt someone. Dogs will naturally bite and protect if someone they love is physically hurt but what this video is talking about is that most dogs are NOT going to know to stop someone before they hurt their human unless they’re a dog that bites almost everyone.
@@annad5130naturally with proper breeding and training a dog should immediately see any strangers on their property as a threat unless the owner has deemed that person friendly.
Sir you are doing the public a great service in schooling them on the characteristics of many of these "Cool" breeds. As an owner or previous owner of many of these breeds you are dead on with your assessments. Thanks for what you are doing.
You the man. Bought a working line GSD, mother from Czech Republic and father from here in Canada. Got in deep, over my head. Learning to live up to the standard. Cheers, top notch stuff brother
Know anyone looking for a top level puppy? Im in ND. I have an incredible German Shepherd from the Eiserne Kreuz line. The top world champions in Schutzhund. He has recently Sired a litter of puppies. His only litter. They will be available in early May of 2023. I am having difficulty getting the word out about these amazing puppies. I would like to find someone that really appreciates their potential. Any ideas to advertise them in the proper channels would be appreciated!
The amount of working line dogs like mals, gsds, and dobies that I get through my house for behavior mods is through the roof. Thank you for giving people a realistic idea of what these dogs actually are and what they are NOT.
Takes a LOT of sorting to find someone speaking honestly about what a serious dog will entail. Great two part videos, gave me the healthy respect I need before getting a more intense dog in addition to my gentle border collie.
My 4 month old is German/Serbian working line GSD. Thank God I got my experience with my Japanese Akita! My GSD puppy is high drive and just as leary of strangers as my Akita. Im socializing the crap out of her and doing the Puppy training videos from start to finish!
DDR GSDs are the absolute BEST! We have a two year old and she's been nothing but the best with our kids - so smart and so protective. We absolutely love working lines! We watched your video before we got our GSD and we spent a lot of money and time training her. Thankfully, she's really smart and training is going so well! Thank you!
We have a DDR, an incredible Shepherd from the Eiserne Kreuz line. The top world champions in Schutzhund. He has recently Sired a litter of puppies. His only litter. They will be available in early May of 2023. I am having difficulty getting the word out about these amazing puppies. I would like to find someone that really appreciates their potential. Any ideas to advertise them in the proper channels would be appreciated!
We rescued a six month GSD and as he has grown, he is definitely built more like a working line. Their look alone is a pretty good deterrent as is, you don't need to try to make them tough. You are so right in establishing that the dog is not the boss of the house. We have two other little 18# terrier mutts, and our oldest at 13 puts Asher in his place all the time. Consistency is key.
I have a male working line gds, and he is gentle with people for the most part. But he will mess someone up over my teenage girls. He’s a good boy and I love him. But I have sense enough to know what he is capable of as I’m sure you do. We are pretty laid back and I think he reads our stress level. And just like you said, they don’t have to be vicious because only a fool who needs his butt checked would walk up on him.
This is priceless guidance. I rescued one that was of "companion" temperament and had been dumped at 10 months for not being as into bite work as he wanted. Mine is quite friendly and gentle when with other people, as long as I am not also there. I'm a calm type, which is lucky because escalating emotionally only would add fuel to the fire. I definitely had to radically reset my approach for his benefit. I wasn't lax, neglecting, or letting him run amok, instead I wasn't catching that he needed me to give him much more communication and more frequent check-ins. He had bounced around and finally found a loving home with hours of exercise,vtraining and healthy food, but I had to learn that while I speak both Human German and Dog Retriever, I had to learn Shepherdese too.
“Police dogs have accidental bites” Yeah that’s me because while chasing after a suspect I didn’t hear the K9 handler yelling he was releasing the dog. Instead of getting the bad guy the dog got me in the ass 😂
Man I love your channel and the work that you do. I am a former French Ring Sport decoy, and a dog rescuer. And I have been telling people stuff like this for years. I am hoping that they will listen to you ultimately.
Amazing line GSD, he was my first. Couldn’t live without him, but wouldn’t pick the working line for my first GSD. They are for real, the energy and a need for stimulation does not fade away.
At almost 40 years old and wanting a dog my whole life and finally I decided to get one. A little back story: I spent years of day dreaming and hands off research in my mid 30's. When I decided that I was actually going to get a dog I settled on what breed and decided what I wanted was German Shepherd specifically a East or West German Shepherd working line. The power and intelligence combined with loyalty and beauty completely infatuated me. I spent two years several hours a week planning and preparing with research on training through videos & books prior to actually getting her. I had the fantastical idea in my head that with all the knowledge I had accumulated and training I had lived vicariously through watching others and learning many dog trainers techniques that my efforts wouldn't be too challenging. LMAO 🤣 Boy was I wrong.... I found a reputable breeder of East German Shepherds with good reviews met the Sire and the Dam they were wonderful and well trained animals with a documented proven lineage. I picked out a female, the only female sable in the litter. Brought her home at 8 weeks old. She threw up on my girlfriend in the car on the ride home 🤣 No amount of pre-planning will prepare you for the actual experience. She is so high energy it's amazing and insane at the same time. She absolutely needs constant attention. Every moment of my life that I am not working, commuting to or from work, or going to the bathroom has HAD to be dedicated to her training and giving her the attention she requires. She needs way more physical and mental exercise, boundaries and attention than I could have ever imagined. I have had some serious challenges and a ton of frustration, but I live alone and raised a son on my own who is now grown so I have had some similar frustrations in the past lol. I am also not the type to give up on what I have set my mind to doing. Owning one of these magnificent dogs is intense and you had better be prepared to put in the work and I mean a lot of work if you want to have your dog be well mannered. Good food, doctor visits, insurance, vitamins and toys are expensive so be prepared for that! After 8 months of sacrificing my time and giving as much attention as possible I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. She will be 1 year old on March 2nd 2023 and she is turning out to be a fine dog. We have a long way to go still and even though she and I have made a ton of progress, we have much more work to be done. It's getting easier but I know now that her training will take years if not continually until she grows into middle age. She and I are working on getting ready to take her AKC Canine Good Citizen test and I have lots of plans for future training as well. With that said, what a fine dog I have. In many ways she is growing into what I day dreamed. My companion and my mutual guardian. She is smart and strong, sweet and loving. She is protective yet cautious. She loves children and other dogs. She is beautiful. She wants to please (most of the time 🤣) and above all she LOVES/CRAVES to work! If you're a newbie and never had a dog before you had better expect to put in the time and work. As I said I'm new at this so take it for what it's worth to you, IMHO If there's anything I have learned about dog behavior, it's that the dog's behavior is a reflection of it's owners efforts and treatment. Good luck and best wishes 👍
Congrats on seeing the light at the end of the tunnel! I have a Czech working line solid black and we have countless hours in training, not to mention the thousands of dollars invested. She is my world and is very strong willed. They are such good solid dogs when trained properly. I have a commute to and from work as well as a side job on Saturdays but my main focus is to get home to my girl! My youngest daughter purchased her first shepherd but is a mix of show and working lines. Great pup and can be intense but not like my girl. Both dogs passed the CGC test with flying colors and are both great with kids and mostly ignore other dogs. Now my girl is 7yrs old and no signs of slowing down. Good food, supplements, and regular health checks are a must and she is as healthy as they get. I agree wholeheartedly that owning these magnificent creatures is intense, rewarding, and creates a bond like one has never experienced. Great background and recommendations as folks usually have no idea the work and attention these pups need/crave!
Thank you so much for your post. You sound like you have an awesome girl! As a female who has been attacked on a trail from behind, I lived in fear of leaving the house and missed 2 years of living life as I once did. I decided to get a big dog. I researched protective dog breeds and decided on a Male Working Line GSD. He was noticeably protective by 3 months old. I agree with you...the energy, wow, not just that, the intelligence level is unbelievable. At about 12 months of age, my boy saved me from a guy trying to jump from a rock down onto me. He didn't see I had a dog, the guy almost got me but my boy spun around and chased him away growling and that guy was running, lol. I work from home and am able to be with him almost 24/7. Lots of hiking, swimming, training daily. He is super affectionate, but also very protective which I have to keep in check. He allows me to have my life back on the trails and I feel very safe when he is by my side. All the best to you and your girl!
Short answer, YES!!! My working line (Sable GSD) is by far, THE greatest dog I’ve ever owned. He is identical to this dog just a little bigger. He is the smartest, scariest, but by far the funniest, goofiest dog I’ve ever known. He has never bitten anyone but has made it clear to everyone that he will protect our family. He is welcoming to EVERYONE who comes into our home and keeps our other two dogs in check.
Great work mate....I've had German Shepherds all my life as my Uncle was a breeder....the results you get make me feel like an amateur....I hope others seeking this advise listen to you because Shepherds are a different challenge to own but so worth the effort....
1:02 Miami in the 80s? My sympathies! I can only imagine how many friends, human and canine, may have been lost. Brutal. Today sounds super rough too. You and your father have my utmost respect not just as trainers, but as cops in such a dangerous city.
I finally see someone who knows not just about German shepherds but in general the Alfa breeds or the working breeds. You have to let them know that you are in charge. I've had many cases of friends that have very dominant dogs and in not a professional trainer whatsoever but I grew up with a rottweiler and I had to learn how to handle him. And I was always the go to person for my fiends when their dogs were way to aggressive. And when they first saw how I was with them they always say I'm being too mean with them but in reality I was being assertive and confident. Once a dog sees you are a strong confident owner they will be more obedient. After a few months of training and working with them they had a changed dog but some go back to letting them be dominant again and well I've had tk adopt a few of them because of that.
My husband is a big fan of German shepherds, was raised with them, our 14 year old is like the nanny from Peter Pan so I agreed to getting a puppy. We liked the look of sables not knowing what we we’re getting ourselves into. She’s a lot of dog! I was not ready for a dog that doesn’t care if they please you or not. She is so stubborn, so strong and destructive. However, she’s not aggressive, but she is protective. There was a strange man walking down our street when I was outside with my kids and Mika never breaks out of our backyard but did in this instance and circled the kids and I. I was so impressed. She’s a good dog, but also a very hard dog and I do not recommend for first time dog owners.
Great video. I'm 62 and I bought a German shepherd from a K9 polican at our city. You have to get shutzhund training if you want a dog to bite and be trained to bite and it's hard to get a dog to bite protect you. I just wanted mine to bark and I have guns. Excellent video. I did give my dog good training for healing, sitting, stay, etc, and he knew I was in charge. It was hard work and I wasn't trying to teach him to bite, but since he was a working dog with Germs. pink papers and I had to exercise him all the time. He needed to be exercised and socialized. Great video.
Couldn’t agree with you more…that’s why we take your courses and watch your videos, it makes us happy and our DDR happy. Obedience, obedience, obedience and an ecollar. Oh, and we’re proud of this. Our DDR actually eagerly positions herself on her back for my husband to clip her nails and oil her pads…and because of you that is happening.
Definitely. You own one, and you always want another . You can't resist them. This dog is just lovely, and you need a principal to train them regularly.
I bought a working GSD four years ago after I retired. He has been a really great dog. Friendly with people, all kids, is fearless, does not go after people walking by my car. He is territorial, asset protective, food and toys, will guard food with me but I can go right in and take his food away, never snapped at anyone taking food from him. Does not roll over on his back for me, but loves a belly rub. I have not done any bite work with him and neutered him at 3 years. He does protect me, found that out in a road rage incident and bears at my summer home. He has the run of the house, does not claim furniture or a bed. He likes children not just my grandkids. Does not like dogs running at me, he will pin them. I asked police dog masters to approach my car with me to get him used to uniforms, no issues with that. I did a lot of socialization with him, training recall etc. He is very intuitive, only reacts to physical aggression directed at me, but not yelling he just gets close and watches, He will not bite if you get in my car, he will latch you up and hold on, you can't resist him or he grips harder, you can leave him in the car, door open he waits there till I get back. He even retrieves grouse for his ball, loves hunting does not react to very loud noises. Great dogs! Your advice on this breed is bang on, mine does test me routinely, training is ongoing daily.
Great advice! One officer on our community was side breeding his working K9. Selling the puppies. My neighbor got one. They showed me and told me where it came from. They know I train my personal dogs GSD’s. I looked at them and I told them they got the wrong dog. They keep him in a kennel and the house rarely take him for proper exercise. I offered to help but nope… he is unhinged around other dogs but ok with people. Thank goodness he likes me and doesn’t react to my dog. That officer should never have another K9. I should have reported him but his k9 died of cancer at 2.
We have a young female working line GS, very sharp, intelligent and gentle animal. Faster than a bolt of lightning. She would be perfect for protection training but that is not what we want or need (in this part of the world). What we do is search and rescue, tracking and collapsed building ruins search work. It seems to come naturally and she absolutely loves it . The first time we went for forest search training she found the 4 persons hiding there in 5 acre area in 4 minutes, and she was just 7 months old. She knew exactly what we wanted from her. We have had 2 show line GS, white Swiss shepherd and a belgian tervuren previously (also collie, papillons etc) , but this work line GS is on another level totally. We wanted a bitch, and the breeder would not give males to families anyway, they all to police and border guard. Keep up the good work.
something that is a huge pet peeve of mine is when people get a dog and claim it's protecting their home when really the dog is just untrained and insecure and frankly dangerous because of his unstable behavior. people need to realize that if you want a protection dog you have to go through the hours and money of training in order for your dog to be a reliable PPD.
Cole Ackley, Absolutely false. I am on my 6th German Shepherd and were all show line and just had obedience training. All great watch dogs with huge amounts of energy, very smart and also very protective. I was out walking one of my German Shepherds one night when some idiot come up from behind me. What that dog did to him. the man was screaming call him off, call him off. It's a natural instinct for that breed to protect.
@@freddie3206 you clearly did not understand their comment, it was not applicable to you 🤦 he's talking about all the idiots buying puppymill pitbulls, shepherds etc , then chaining them up outside and letting them bark and lunge at people and calling it protection. I have a Boerbol who is a farm dog and I get weirdos asking about owning one all the time, majority of people can't discipline a Yorkie much less train a highly obedient and capable 200+ lb protection dog. My boy is very obedient and sweet, I have no doubt he'd protect me as he's done it before, but I can't think of a single common person I've met who would be able to handle him or even properly train him at pet level.
So I have decided to get a Czech line gsd for my first gsd, the dog is three years old and has been socialized very well and is very good with people and dogs, will require around 3 hours of exercise each day both physical and mental It’s allot of commitment but I have wanted one since I was 16. I have done my research and am prepared for the work
I have a female Czech/working line GSD named Freya. She is 10 months old. She is very dominant. None of my tones of voices were working a few months ago, and all the of 'typical' approaches to getting a puppy to stop nipping only excited her. I could not sit on my couch because she would run at me, nipping, barking, growling. You could tell my frustration rubbed off on her too. On the flip side, my husband would do a quick correction by grabbing the back of her neck (fat) and boom. She would stop. So I tried the same thing - she just bared her teeth at me. I had to make her lay down and stay 'below me' until she got calm, that's the only thing that worked to stop the biting. Now we got her an ecollar to disrupt that behavior and a place mat (she was already crate trained). Absolutely night and day. She is doing so much better because she is not gaining control of the household. If there are more tips and tricks on how to 'gently' dominate a dog I'll take 'em. We love her, and I try to let people know how much work she has been in getting her to this point. These training videos are the only ones I've seen that directly address a dominant dog breed - Thank you!
''All animals want to be dogs. All dogs want to be Black Labs''. Stonnie Dennis. Just get the Black Lab, train it a little bit, then go have fun. My man here is right, get a gun for home protection. Every dog I have ever had would bark and growl at unknown noises. I imagine my man here is right, probably wouldn't attack an intruder, but that little bit of warning and seconds of delay is all i need to retrieve said firearm.
My daughter researched for months before begging both myself n husband ddr make so I wasn't in it but since Dad said yes. We went on this journey .wasn't found of it cause we live in an apartment .we missed the first round of male puppies so we waited a year and we were on a list but not enough males were born ,so she could have waited but she couldn't and chose a female puppy which I was so relieved and happy about .I have trained my own boxer puppies and I have adopted so called problem boxers throughout my life and trained them .but I kinda new this might be next level .but I have to say our female Shepard is amazing ,she is so smart. like its so strange how smart she can be .she stays with my girls if someone comes to my door she sticks her head through there legs n watches. We never taught her this. Outside she doesn't let strangers near them like if they try to come up on them especially at night she stands on her back legs n low growls .until they walk in opposite direction n she's on all fours again .I live in south Florida and it's very bad crime down here .this dog is just awesome in the house and outside she doesn't lunge at people either she just stands her ground .I love love my girl 💓 lol daughters dog. Ok mine too .also she doesn't have accidents in the house seriously if she's sick and has the runs she goes to the door n jumps on it once n she waits to be leashed up n out she goes. She holds it .I can't wait to move into a home back up north I want another.
I have a Malinois and I’m looking for my next house protector. I know these GSD are high drive dogs, but in comparison to a Malinois would you say they have more drive, less drive, or?
coming back to this video again, my working line gsd came from a home where she was attacked by her mother on at least two occasions she is nothing like this dog, she is extremely fearful, insecure and soft, doesn't have a mean bone in her entire body when it comes to her inner circle but is reactive to strangers and despises other dogs, I inherited a very shitty situation and I am currently working with my trainer to bring out the best in this dog
I grew up with Eastern German Sheppards (worklines) since I was a kid. SOCIALISATION is very important. That starts as a puppy. Make no mistake they need mental and physical challenges. Hiking, playing...Love... Training and patience... Since it's a workline, they are very eager to learn. At a very young age, you start with basic training. Put the food on the ground, and he/she has to wait till you give the command or sign to start eating. Playful learn to groom and check his/her teeth/body. Go hiking... Calm energy. No yelling. Reward positive behavior (praise, cuddle...) Correct or ignore bad/unwanted behavior. We did not do guard/attack training... On the contrary, people came all the time over (Socialisation). Other dogs, traffic, public transport... We never locked up any of our dogs into a cage. We never had any issues with our dogs. More experienced training, later on. Our dogs were unbelievably loyal, stable, and disciplined. I have 2 Eastern Germans Sheppards (workline) of my own since they were 8 weeks old. I raised them well. They see me as their parent and leader. I do not need a leash. Sarah stays on my left side and Kenzo on my right side. Both have been socialized since puppy. Never any issue. They love people and other dogs. Are not dominant at all. SOCIALISATION is key. Sorry, man, you do not understand this beautiful breed at all. That's probably because your dogs were not properly socialized. I also know people who only use their GSD as a guard dog and no or bad Socialisation. No hiking... I take my dogs on trips, on holiday...
I had a female East German working line shepherd, spent the first 5 years of her life schutzhund training her, daily. I live on a 16 acre horse ranch so I had the space to build her the training course. Ironically she was the sweetest dog I have ever owned, and I have had dozens over my 54 years, that said given a command in Dutch and her entire demeanor would flip on a dime. You make good points but to be honest in my experience the tendencies you have spoken on tend to apply more to males of the breed than it does to the females. I trained my mothers male working line GSD as well and he is EXACTLY the way that you described right down to having to give him trazadone and muzzle him to go to the same vet he has known since he was a puppy. My female, Freya, was the exact opposite. At the vet she was a social butterfly greeting every new animal and person who came into the waiting room unless I instructed otherwise. We have hundreds or wild rabbits on our property and she loved chasing them but before she took off she would always look back to me for permission to give chase, a shake of the head was all it took to stop her at that point. Every employee at the vet would come out to see her and pet her. I would love to say "It's all in how you raise them" but sadly it really isn't. My mom is the sweetest dog owner you will ever meet, heck I wish she treated me so well growing up and her dog is sweet and obedient to family and only family, zero social skills. Before the holidays Freya passed during surgery for a tumor she had on her gallbladder that burst. She must have been in pain for weeks if not months, she never gave a clue until it was too late. As much as it rips out my heart, I had 12 years with my little panzer and she was my lifeline. She made living with my ptsd almost tolerable and I have been struggling since she passed but this is my issue. Great and informative vid, it made me want to talk about Freya. Thank you for sharing and indulging my comment.
My friend, I have a question... is there a legal sedation drug you can get over the counter for your dog, so you can take it to the vet or do his nails without getting bitten?. Thanks...
I enjoy camping in bear country and am interested in getting a dog that can alert me and potentially intimidate a curious bear wandering near my tent at night. I’ve been considering getting a working-line German Shepherd puppy. I grew up with show-line German Shepherds and some of my fondest memories are with these dogs. However, I found the show-line dogs to be too delicate. Do you have any advice, aside from not camping in the forest?
I have 12 working lines 7 are searching for a home they are 2 weeks now i have a non related 8 momth old east German lo g coated working line she is ferocious!! Shes definitely my personal protection dog
Love your videos, they are so educational. Especially for those who are new to working breeds. I am curious, what happens to the dog if it bites an intruder in the us? Here in Norway, dogs have 0 legal protection, so if it bites an intruder, 8/10 times, it will be put down 😳 It’s crazy…..
Great Video. I always loved German Shepherds but never owned 1. This video answers questions I had on the Working Line German Shepherds compared to Showline German Shepherds. Also are the Solid Black German Shepherds bred for/from Working lines?
Wanting to get a GS for my family dog. Experienced owner who trains all of my dogs. Had Pits, Rottys and Malinois just wanting to know how good GS are with toddlers/kids, have a 9 month old.
I love the German working line so much I got 2 littermate males who are now 4 years old. Always "on" they are the penultimate guard dogs. They are smart, athletic and most of the time the biggest dufus' you will ever encounter. Although they are from the same litter, very different personalities. "The Gunny" is just like Sgt. Hartman from full metal jacket. Tough, loud, violent and opinionated. His "Bro" is "Odie". fiercely loyal, faster than light and the biggest goober in the K9 world. Both are great with our family. Never a bite or a nip even. Extremely disciplined and overly loving of their pack here at home.
Love this - the litter we got my puppy from was hilarious. 5 week old puppies, penned in their area, already barking and doing patrols. They were ready.
@@outrunning29 On the subject of patrols, my boys sit and watch On Patrol Live every Friday and Saturday night howling when the K9 officers come on screen! #gsd #k9
Thank you for this information and the way you were very real about it. I was looking at a Czech /DDR GSD and I’ve decided I’m not going to get one. Awesome dogs but not for us.
I have a 4 yr. old 92 lb. working line GS that looks exactly like the one in the video except a little longer fur. He is very people friendly and very affectionate. Mine does have that make me attitude when you tell him to do something he doesn't want to do. He does mouth when he doesn't want to be touched. This makes it hard to give him treatments. He throws fits by scratching the ground and barking at it at the same time. He mostly does that when my grown son comes home after not seeing him for a few days. My daughter-in-law has a very dominant Yorkie who does bark at visitors and tries to attack their ankles and she has to be crated. Since I've been living with my son my dog is now starting to bark at visitors when they first come in. He is learning this from the Yorkie. She also viciously attacks him in the face for various reasons. The good thing is that he doesn't react when she does that. I don't know if she is dominating him or if he just sees her as being little and not a threat or maybe because we are always scolding him to leave her along. He has a very different reaction with a bigger dog that lives next door or any dog that challenges him. He also accidently bit me when he was fence fighting with the dog because he managed to grab its cheek through the chain link fence, I panicked and was smacking him in the face to let go and he did for a second and tried going for him again and accidently got my hand. He's had 4 trainers and am still looking for once since I moved to Arizona a few months ago. I want to stop the fence fighting and the anxiety and stress he exhibits when my son comes home. He's okay after a day of him being home. We don't know that triggers this behavior.
You look good in this video! Lol 2 years ago. You should get back to this form, if I’m being honest w you. You can do it. I know. Easily. You’re 3 years younger than me. 😊. And the info here on the breed is 100% correct. I own one also, and this advice is absolutely correct and you need to consider it before you get one.
Yep. My working line GSD (Grandfather was World Champion in Nuremberg Germany 2010, Ober von Bad Boll) is a badass. Luckily I am a single adult senior, so not so much an issue- when someone new comes in the house with me, he just really intimidates them the first 15 minutes or so, if they ignore him he just goes on about his business after that. But anyone comes to the fence, or the door- he makes it very plain that he will kill them and violate their cooling corpse then eat them...
After a decade plus in the Army and LE with working dogs, I've seen more friendly fire bites than intended bites. IME, these dogs are amazing at chasing down and stopping fleeing bad guys. But the notion of getting a legit protection dog as a "family guardian" is flawed for the reasons mentioned in the video. A dog that will naturally engage home intruders will also bite everyone that visits and be a massive liability. Or the dog will bite no one and provide no real protection other than early warning barks. If you don't enjoy the process of dog protection training, I strongly advise against getting a protection dog. That said, dog protection training is fun as hell.
My DDR has been one of the most fun dogs I’ve ever owned. They take extra care and attention but the willingness to learn is mind blowing. Definitely the most intelligent dog I’ve had.
@@wanderingdrifter3163 I've handled and trained with hundreds of GSD. I do find GSD to be the most intelligent out of the working dogs I deal with (Labs, Pointers, Mal/Dutch, herderX, etc.). That said, I personally do not care for GSD. I don't recommend them in most working roles outside of some private security or PPDs. Especially for scent detection. Athleticism and work commitment are subpar. Almost a guarantee the first dog to cheat in training will be a GSD.
@Jessica You don't have to believe me. You are the one using anecdotal experience with an irrelevantly small sample compared to what SMEs on the topic experienced. Michael Ellis, Ivan Balabanov, Haz Othman, Richard Heinz, etc. Lots of YT content out there explaining why you are wrong. They'll all say the same thing. Very few dogs will engage without training. And those same dogs with quality training will be far superior in an engagement.
At this point, I´m just going to get a Chihuahua from a good breeder and call it a day. I get scared of the breed every time you make a video about it, but it´s good to know the worst that it could happen and how serious is to get one of those breeds, like Cane Corso or Malinois.
LOL. Those things are demonic. The only reason they still exist as a breed is the fact they are so tiny, so their (regular) attacks aren't medically significant.
Hi Sir, My 4 months old German Shephard puppy is too scared of everything. Dogs barking, some vessel falling down, door knocks. How can I fix him? I got him considering he can be a protector of the house, but it looks like its turning other way around
Have had 6 GS (domestic non-working variant), over 50 yrs… what are the real distinguishing differences between the working and non-working variants? If one is just looking for family pet/companion, how do you determine which to adopt?
Working line and show lines have very different conformation. Show lines have what's called a "roach back" to varying degrees and it allows them to have the perfect gait and stance while showing. But it also makes it so they're completely unable to perform basic agility movements, like jumping up in a truck. A working line shepherd is more high energy and because of that may not be a good fit as a family pet, but if your family is also high energy then a working line might suit very well. Working line shepherds usually have more slender bodies and straighter backs.
I Got WLGSD 2017, since Puppy, socializing is the key, since puppy, and let him know everything it was and still is trough me, and me only, food, play, sleep, bathroom. It is Better to get a rough start with a puppy and let him you are the boss. Now, Drago has 6 Yo, and is the al love Dog at home, nice with visitors, but aware with strangers. ALWAYS has to be supervised if he is outside the Kennel. If he works everyday, fisicaly and mentally , it will be fine. My whole family enjoys his presence and feels secure with him. Even relatives that come often home-.
I have had both types of German Shepherd and they are totally different personalities. The American line is somewhat smaller and have less drive. Working line is a higher prey drive and you had to stay on top of everything. If you don't give them a job, they will make themselves a job...generally one you don't like.
I'm on my second working line gsd. She is great with everyone and everything... except squirrels. Lol. We train twice a day for 30 minutes each session. No bite work. She is nice to everybody. I don't think she'd attack a robber.
I bought a gsd 28 mos. ago Hes registered. I bought him locally. Hes very energetic and does not like little dogs. How can I find out if he is a working dog?
Good day. I'm not sure on your question. It's very broad. Every puppy is different. We can train from 3 minutes to 30 minutes per session (typically 15-20 min). We focus training around their feeding time. Training is feeding, feeding is training. However, the dog is learning constantly. So, they're constantly under a watchful eye that is "training" them right from wrong. And, when they can't be under a watchful eye they are resting in their crate.
My GSD is a sweet hart . She is 14 years old, and unfortunately I don’t think she’s going to be with me much longer. I’m thinking about adopting a retired service dog. I’m 79 years old. Would that be a good idea?
I got a female working like gsd at 13 trained it all by myself it attacks on command and whenever anyone approaches me friendly or not she has to smell them first Before they approach me or she will attack instantly and she’s not a human aggressive dog she’s a human friendly dog she’s just protective but she is animal aggressive
I have a working line GSD female and while I wouldn't describe her as "dominant", she is very strong willed. Once she knows how to do something and desires to do it, and it aligns with what I also want, she's wonderful. But getting her to comply to commands is initially challenging. She learns quickly and is smart, so it's easy to assume she would be less difficult than a male, but I don't think it's really true. She's a lot of work.
What would be then the middle way ?GSD working line is too high energy show line is too soft. If i want a normal dog that at least be alert and good with kids ?
Can Czech Shepard be trained to retrieve birds and not chew them? I hunt chukar, and I dream every time about having one of these dogs by my side, My friends tell me you should get a pointer or a retriever but I don't need a dog to tell me where the birds are and I can use their help for finding and retrieving them, I kove Shepherds specialy Czech Shepards, I want one for my house life and outdoor hobby and I am planning on having children so I want this dog fit for family and life, Could this happen!? Thanks
Wow man, I never understood what you meant when you said GSDs are not good family dogs, but this video has a lot of good points and I suppose with your backstory you would definitely know. But I just got an 8 month old GSD I think he’s the working line, still have to do some research but anyway thanks, very informative sir👌
I have a female also but she's part red wolf and is so dominant that times I want to let her go but I love her too much and worry so bad how will others treat her she's great with kids girls not to good with guys and well other animals are a big problem but she's very hard to control
Thank you for your videos. I particularly love the one about the Malinois talking about how so many of them use for military and police have Dutch in them (a given), but also a touch of pit and working line German Shepherd. I have gotten into debates with people on this platform over this subject with former military people insisting that military mals are pure Malinois. When I told him I had a breeder friend of Malinois here in California that even admit that in Europe they do this, he called my friend a backyard breeder. How come these people are so ignorant? Malinois do not have big cheeks and massive heads? nor do Dutch Shepherds. There are many major breeders breeding bicolor Malinois. Isn't that a dead giveaway that they are mixed? It's not an insult. If it improves the performance of the dog then I think there's no problem with it but people get up in arms about we talkin about it
For a variety of reasons, KNPV is having a decreasing influence on protection work. It's a dying sport in Europe, alternative options are more cost effective, KNPV dogs can be excessive drive even for LE, demand is too high to be met solely from KNPV, etc. FCI lines, particularly in EE, are producing an increasing volume of protection dogs than ever before. There you can find more pure Mal/Dutchie.
They probably keep them working weight and don't overfeed them, you have to do the same in falconry and with racing pigeons, keep them lean and hungry makes them more responsive, determined and faster more agile in the field.
German shepherds need constant mental stimulation. Either chews, playing tug, training, food puzzles, fetch, herding commands(come by, away to me), et cetera. Our GSD naps for about two hours a day, sleeps at night, and the rest is spent doing a daily walk and all the above mentioned activities. Ours was a rescue and holy cow I was not prepared for him but we figured it out after a month 😅.
My working shepherd was amazing in every way i could possibly imagine. He was full protection. He was easier than my min poodles bitches ! 😂 God I miss him. I’m looking for another dog. They are natural protectors, socialising is key plus exposing him to as much as possible. Love this breed ❤
When I grew up my parents always had medium or large sized dogs, so I love big breeds and energetic dogs. I think my 11 weeks Germany shepherd got some genes of both western and eastern working line and malinois. When I saw this puppy and his siblings, I noticed that he looked more like an eastern working line and malinois than other puppies, so I selected him because I always want a high drive dog. I am learning the ways to make him a friendly dog.
My jack Russell protected the house from a break in simply because he sounded absolutely insane when he barked as someone tried coming in the back door. I had two other break in attempts where my dogs barking got them to leave. None of those dogs bit or was aggressive. You don’t need some aggro dog for protection, this is right, a family dog is better
hi i really liked the video just one question. can you guys do a video on choke chain and how their used. i wanted to chose a prong or choker for my czech shepherd
What’s the difference between a Malinois and a working German Sheperd? Are they pretty much the same or would a working line German Sheperd be more calmer than a Malinois?
Malinois still much more energy. Working line shepherds just can be very dominant and naturally aggressive. Yes they can be a little more energetic but nothing outrageous.
My dad has a working line GSD x Malinois mix. He's definitely high af drive, but is generally a good boy. He had another one too but sorrowfully that dog didn't get along with our other dogs so he's been rehomed. His new owner is not a sporty guy at all but the dog still adores him and they get along very well. I don't doubt that there are some too-hyper-for-hobbyist GSDs as well.
i have a European gsd named leroy, was unsocialized with people and dogs at 4 months old never left his puppy pen. he started out nervous around any new thing like cars / people / bikes / dogs. nervous means he pulls away and cowers a bit instead of barking. once he became confident around cars / people via our walks on leash he started to get excitable when people would look at him he would start to bark wanting to go say hi.. this is not okay and can look very intimidatign to a child or elderly person.. i make him sit while they walked past then a simple ok to release him back to our walk, this allows him to realise that they meant no harm overtime as no ones ever aproached with out asking. IF and WHEN my boy Leroy ever growl / barks at someone that does not deserve to be kept at a distance i tell him to Leave it in a calm but stern tone, and if he doesnt i follow through with a correction with his prong collar, this works. as of spring this year, he walks beside me in a heel position (as good as a 8 month old is expected) - sits with leash pressure, goes down ANYWHERE ANYTIME via a hand signal and or a verbal Down. i place him in a down if there is a dog off leash and let them walk past before releasing leroy back to our walk, its fine if others want their dog to let loose, this isnt the time or place for my boy to be learning to ignore my commands off leash. disclaimer : i work with exotic animals as a trainer im not a certified dog trainer (yet) i have only got certificates in dog behavior and group management in a daycare setting, which is where my dog gets to "be a dog" and unwind with his friends in a SAFE controlled environment. i personally dont trust every one who owns a dog to be a dog handler, nor have the confidence to buck up if shit hits the fan which is why id rather have a Disciplined dog over a motivated dog.
The dog was neurotic because he was never properly socialized or handled just feed and penned up which is non ironically what they do to children in adoption homes in n Russia.
Dang, we got old. 1982 native born after my folks migrated here after the Vietnam War. Mine is all black. I fell in love with the GS after rescuing one. She made my Doberman look stupid. The Doberman breed is too aloof for me.
Excellent advice! I’ve had 5 GSD’s and just got my 6th who is my first 100% East German GSD. His father was German military and he is MORE dog on every level… more energy, more intensity, more aggressive, more territorial, more attached, more dominant…. Greatest Dog I’ve ever had but there’s no way I could have handled him without having experience with calmer GSD’s first. These dogs need a consistent, steady hand, clear boundaries and daily mental and physical exercise.They are definitely not for everyone!
Perfect example. Thank you
My first GSD was a backyard bred mix of show lines and working lines. Gorgeous dog, always got compliments. Loved people. Easy to train, raise, etc…. With the exception of his numerous health problems…a perfect dog.
I decided the 2nd GSD would be from a “champion” line breeder and since the 1st one was easy, I’ll step it up a notch and get a working line. My intention was to go thru Schutzhund with him. Just like yours was German military lines…mine (DDR/Czech) came from a line of border patrol dogs in the old Czechoslovakia - high drive, high energy, extremely territorial. That first year of owning/raising him…omg it was so hard that I almost returned him to the breeder several times. I tried to do the same training program as my previous GSD but he was too much dog for that program. Then Covid shutdown happened and I never got the chance to do Schutzhund with him. Anyway, he just turned 5. He’s very territorial around a 3-5 block radius of home. The amount of exercise I have to do with him to drain his energy is a lot. He challenges me more than my other one ever did. Even though he’s 20-25 pounds lighter than the previous one, he’s much stronger. Unlike my first one, he’s wary of strangers.
Anyway, I can go on and on with the differences. My point is…if anyone is reading this and is deciding if they want a working line shepherd…if you’re a first time dog owner, don’t get one. Last thing our breed needs is more GSDs ending up in rescues because you can’t handle them. It takes an experienced GSD owner who has the time to train and drain its energy everyday. Or else you’re gonna have a very destructive dog. A bored intelligent dog is not a fun dog to own.
Love this response
@d05wtt had working line dogs before and hybrids....though my next dog might be my limit. Working line czech vlcak or czech wolfdog or a lycan shepherd a developing wolf hybrid working breed. Even low to mid content it's gonna be hectic.
Retired firefighter who is a strong, smaller lady, but very fit. I had “hard” herding dogs my entire life. ALL working dogs are much more difficult and different than a “regular” dog. I have temperament tested dogs for many years. I have some aggressive herding dogs( GSDs are herding dogs) and yes, they will bite everyone who comes on my property. I live in a meth infested area. I have a business at my home. I have been robbed. I own a weapon. I don’t have family. I don’t have friends. I don’t socialize my dogs. I have trained dogs for veterans.
You cannot food train these dogs. They work hand in hand with people for generations and you can’t train behaviors out of a dog that has been bred into them for generations. This was a great video.
Yes, I am a bossy owner. I have never treat trained. Love my dogs. I am the boss.
I have an east German working line female with me currently. She's allot of dog to handle but has been great with my kids and family. After a relationship split I moved her into my parents house. One day two men tried to push their way into the house whilst I was at work and my mom was out shopping. My dad was in his seventies and had no way to protect himself against them. They pushed him backwards off the doorstep and luckily he was able to open the door to the living room where my dog went into protection mode naturally and probably saved his life..
There’s a difference between a dog stopping a bad buy and stopping a bad buy after he’s hurt someone. Dogs will naturally bite and protect if someone they love is physically hurt but what this video is talking about is that most dogs are NOT going to know to stop someone before they hurt their human unless they’re a dog that bites almost everyone.
@@annad5130naturally with proper breeding and training a dog should immediately see any strangers on their property as a threat unless the owner has deemed that person friendly.
Sir you are doing the public a great service in schooling them on the characteristics of many of these "Cool" breeds. As an owner or previous owner of many of these breeds you are dead on with your assessments. Thanks for what you are doing.
Thank you
I agree 100% with your comment. Thank you Sir! Amazing knowledge and great advises ! Cheers
I love that youre educating peple in the difference between a Pet and a worker.
You the man. Bought a working line GSD, mother from Czech Republic and father from here in Canada. Got in deep, over my head. Learning to live up to the standard. Cheers, top notch stuff brother
Know anyone looking for a top level puppy? Im in ND. I
have an incredible German Shepherd from the Eiserne Kreuz line. The top world champions in Schutzhund. He has recently Sired a litter of puppies. His only litter. They will be available in early May of 2023. I am having difficulty getting the word out about these amazing puppies. I would like to find someone that really appreciates their potential. Any ideas to advertise them in the proper channels would be appreciated!
The amount of working line dogs like mals, gsds, and dobies that I get through my house for behavior mods is through the roof. Thank you for giving people a realistic idea of what these dogs actually are and what they are NOT.
Takes a LOT of sorting to find someone speaking honestly about what a serious dog will entail. Great two part videos, gave me the healthy respect I need before getting a more intense dog in addition to my gentle border collie.
My 4 month old is German/Serbian working line GSD. Thank God I got my experience with my Japanese Akita! My GSD puppy is high drive and just as leary of strangers as my Akita. Im socializing the crap out of her and doing the Puppy training videos from start to finish!
DDR GSDs are the absolute BEST! We have a two year old and she's been nothing but the best with our kids - so smart and so protective. We absolutely love working lines! We watched your video before we got our GSD and we spent a lot of money and time training her. Thankfully, she's really smart and training is going so well! Thank you!
I heard that DDR GSDs are more defensive than the west German lines. West german lines are more hyper and prey driven rather than defense driven
Awesome great to hear
How are they with friends in house, i am looking to get one now from czech, very experienced dog owner with 3 kids.
@@deshanhewavithana2099 yeah DDR in general are more protective but a bit less hyper than the western lines. I plan on getting a DDR gsd for myself.
We have a DDR, an incredible Shepherd from the Eiserne Kreuz line. The top world champions in Schutzhund. He has recently Sired a litter of puppies. His only litter. They will be available in early May of 2023. I am having difficulty getting the word out about these amazing puppies. I would like to find someone that really appreciates their potential. Any ideas to advertise them in the proper channels would be appreciated!
We rescued a six month GSD and as he has grown, he is definitely built more like a working line. Their look alone is a pretty good deterrent as is, you don't need to try to make them tough. You are so right in establishing that the dog is not the boss of the house. We have two other little 18# terrier mutts, and our oldest at 13 puts Asher in his place all the time. Consistency is key.
I have a male working line gds, and he is gentle with people for the most part. But he will mess someone up over my teenage girls. He’s a good boy and I love him. But I have sense enough to know what he is capable of as I’m sure you do. We are pretty laid back and I think he reads our stress level. And just like you said, they don’t have to be vicious because only a fool who needs his butt checked would walk up on him.
This is priceless guidance. I rescued one that was of "companion" temperament and had been dumped at 10 months for not being as into bite work as he wanted. Mine is quite friendly and gentle when with other people, as long as I am not also there. I'm a calm type, which is lucky because escalating emotionally only would add fuel to the fire. I definitely had to radically reset my approach for his benefit. I wasn't lax, neglecting, or letting him run amok, instead I wasn't catching that he needed me to give him much more communication and more frequent check-ins. He had bounced around and finally found a loving home with hours of exercise,vtraining and healthy food, but I had to learn that while I speak both Human German and Dog Retriever, I had to learn Shepherdese too.
“Police dogs have accidental bites”
Yeah that’s me because while chasing after a suspect I didn’t hear the K9 handler yelling he was releasing the dog. Instead of getting the bad guy the dog got me in the ass 😂
What are you supposed to do when you hear that dog is released?
@@m.935probably get out of the way 😅
Man I love your channel and the work that you do. I am a former French Ring Sport decoy, and a dog rescuer. And I have been telling people stuff like this for years. I am hoping that they will listen to you ultimately.
Amazing line GSD, he was my first. Couldn’t live without him, but wouldn’t pick the working line for my first GSD. They are for real, the energy and a need for stimulation does not fade away.
At almost 40 years old and wanting a dog my whole life and finally I decided to get one.
A little back story: I spent years of day dreaming and hands off research in my mid 30's. When I decided that I was actually going to get a dog I settled on what breed and decided what I wanted was German Shepherd specifically a East or West German Shepherd working line. The power and intelligence combined with loyalty and beauty completely infatuated me. I spent two years several hours a week planning and preparing with research on training through videos & books prior to actually getting her. I had the fantastical idea in my head that with all the knowledge I had accumulated and training I had lived vicariously through watching others and learning many dog trainers techniques that my efforts wouldn't be too challenging. LMAO 🤣 Boy was I wrong....
I found a reputable breeder of East German Shepherds with good reviews met the Sire and the Dam they were wonderful and well trained animals with a documented proven lineage. I picked out a female, the only female sable in the litter. Brought her home at 8 weeks old. She threw up on my girlfriend in the car on the ride home 🤣
No amount of pre-planning will prepare you for the actual experience. She is so high energy it's amazing and insane at the same time. She absolutely needs constant attention. Every moment of my life that I am not working, commuting to or from work, or going to the bathroom has HAD to be dedicated to her training and giving her the attention she requires. She needs way more physical and mental exercise, boundaries and attention than I could have ever imagined. I have had some serious challenges and a ton of frustration, but I live alone and raised a son on my own who is now grown so I have had some similar frustrations in the past lol. I am also not the type to give up on what I have set my mind to doing.
Owning one of these magnificent dogs is intense and you had better be prepared to put in the work and I mean a lot of work if you want to have your dog be well mannered. Good food, doctor visits, insurance, vitamins and toys are expensive so be prepared for that!
After 8 months of sacrificing my time and giving as much attention as possible I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. She will be 1 year old on March 2nd 2023 and she is turning out to be a fine dog.
We have a long way to go still and even though she and I have made a ton of progress, we have much more work to be done. It's getting easier but I know now that her training will take years if not continually until she grows into middle age. She and I are working on getting ready to take her AKC Canine Good Citizen test and I have lots of plans for future training as well.
With that said, what a fine dog I have. In many ways she is growing into what I day dreamed. My companion and my mutual guardian. She is smart and strong, sweet and loving. She is protective yet cautious. She loves children and other dogs. She is beautiful. She wants to please (most of the time 🤣) and above all she LOVES/CRAVES to work!
If you're a newbie and never had a dog before you had better expect to put in the time and work. As I said I'm new at this so take it for what it's worth to you, IMHO If there's anything I have learned about dog behavior, it's that the dog's behavior is a reflection of it's owners efforts and treatment.
Good luck and best wishes 👍
Congrats on seeing the light at the end of the tunnel! I have a Czech working line solid black and we have countless hours in training, not to mention the thousands of dollars invested. She is my world and is very strong willed. They are such good solid dogs when trained properly. I have a commute to and from work as well as a side job on Saturdays but my main focus is to get home to my girl! My youngest daughter purchased her first shepherd but is a mix of show and working lines. Great pup and can be intense but not like my girl. Both dogs passed the CGC test with flying colors and are both great with kids and mostly ignore other dogs. Now my girl is 7yrs old and no signs of slowing down. Good food, supplements, and regular health checks are a must and she is as healthy as they get. I agree wholeheartedly that owning these magnificent creatures is intense, rewarding, and creates a bond like one has never experienced. Great background and recommendations as folks usually have no idea the work and attention these pups need/crave!
Give her a job either Shutzhund sport or some pro training so she doesn't become neurotic.
Thank you so much for your post. You sound like you have an awesome girl!
As a female who has been attacked on a trail from behind, I lived in fear of leaving the house and missed 2 years of living life as I once did. I decided to get a big dog. I researched protective dog breeds and decided on a Male Working Line GSD. He was noticeably protective by 3 months old. I agree with you...the energy, wow, not just that, the intelligence level is unbelievable. At about 12 months of age, my boy saved me from a guy trying to jump from a rock down onto me. He didn't see I had a dog, the guy almost got me but my boy spun around and chased him away growling and that guy was running, lol. I work from home and am able to be with him almost 24/7. Lots of hiking, swimming, training daily. He is super affectionate, but also very protective which I have to keep in check. He allows me to have my life back on the trails and I feel very safe when he is by my side. All the best to you and your girl!
Short answer, YES!!!
My working line (Sable GSD) is by far, THE greatest dog I’ve ever owned.
He is identical to this dog just a little bigger.
He is the smartest, scariest, but by far the funniest, goofiest dog I’ve ever known.
He has never bitten anyone but has made it clear to everyone that he will protect our family.
He is welcoming to EVERYONE who comes into our home and keeps our other two dogs in check.
Great work mate....I've had German Shepherds all my life as my Uncle was a breeder....the results you get make me feel like an amateur....I hope others seeking this advise listen to you because Shepherds are a different challenge to own but so worth the effort....
I love this guy's no nonsense straight forward yet funny way of explaining things lol great video
I had an East German working line dog that was fully trained and lived for about 10 years! She was the best.
1:02 Miami in the 80s? My sympathies! I can only imagine how many friends, human and canine, may have been lost. Brutal. Today sounds super rough too.
You and your father have my utmost respect not just as trainers, but as cops in such a dangerous city.
I finally see someone who knows not just about German shepherds but in general the Alfa breeds or the working breeds. You have to let them know that you are in charge. I've had many cases of friends that have very dominant dogs and in not a professional trainer whatsoever but I grew up with a rottweiler and I had to learn how to handle him. And I was always the go to person for my fiends when their dogs were way to aggressive. And when they first saw how I was with them they always say I'm being too mean with them but in reality I was being assertive and confident. Once a dog sees you are a strong confident owner they will be more obedient. After a few months of training and working with them they had a changed dog but some go back to letting them be dominant again and well I've had tk adopt a few of them because of that.
True. Thank you
Alfa? Nice spelling dude.
My husband is a big fan of German shepherds, was raised with them, our 14 year old is like the nanny from Peter Pan so I agreed to getting a puppy. We liked the look of sables not knowing what we we’re getting ourselves into. She’s a lot of dog! I was not ready for a dog that doesn’t care if they please you or not. She is so stubborn, so strong and destructive. However, she’s not aggressive, but she is protective. There was a strange man walking down our street when I was outside with my kids and Mika never breaks out of our backyard but did in this instance and circled the kids and I. I was so impressed. She’s a good dog, but also a very hard dog and I do not recommend for first time dog owners.
I got a golden shepard...nice sweet dog.. excellent alarm system which is exactly what i wanted...I am the protector...she's the alarm
Again, a real badass trainer giving valuable insight to a real badass breed. One day, I’d love to work with serious dogs like you.
Fantastic insight in to the breed, based on real experience. Liked and subscribed. All the best from the UK 👍🏻
Thank you. More to come
Great video.
I'm 62 and I bought a German shepherd from a K9 polican at our city. You have to get shutzhund training if you want a dog to bite and be trained to bite and it's hard to get a dog to bite protect you. I just wanted mine to bark and I have guns. Excellent video. I did give my dog good training for healing, sitting, stay, etc, and he knew I was in charge.
It was hard work and I wasn't trying to teach him to bite, but since he was a working dog with Germs. pink papers and I had to exercise him all the time. He needed to be exercised and socialized. Great video.
Couldn’t agree with you more…that’s why we take your courses and watch your videos, it makes us happy and our DDR happy. Obedience, obedience, obedience and an ecollar. Oh, and we’re proud of this. Our DDR actually eagerly positions herself on her back for my husband to clip her nails and oil her pads…and because of you that is happening.
Definitely. You own one, and you always want another . You can't resist them. This dog is just lovely, and you need a principal to train them regularly.
I bought a working GSD four years ago after I retired. He has been a really great dog. Friendly with people, all kids, is fearless, does not go after people walking by my car. He is territorial, asset protective, food and toys, will guard food with me but I can go right in and take his food away, never snapped at anyone taking food from him. Does not roll over on his back for me, but loves a belly rub. I have not done any bite work with him and neutered him at 3 years. He does protect me, found that out in a road rage incident and bears at my summer home. He has the run of the house, does not claim furniture or a bed. He likes children not just my grandkids. Does not like dogs running at me, he will pin them. I asked police dog masters to approach my car with me to get him used to uniforms, no issues with that. I did a lot of socialization with him, training recall etc. He is very intuitive, only reacts to physical aggression directed at me, but not yelling he just gets close and watches, He will not bite if you get in my car, he will latch you up and hold on, you can't resist him or he grips harder, you can leave him in the car, door open he waits there till I get back. He even retrieves grouse for his ball, loves hunting does not react to very loud noises. Great dogs! Your advice on this breed is bang on, mine does test me routinely, training is ongoing daily.
Great advice! One officer on our community was side breeding his working K9. Selling the puppies. My neighbor got one. They showed me and told me where it came from. They know I train my personal dogs GSD’s. I looked at them and I told them they got the wrong dog. They keep him in a kennel and the house rarely take him for proper exercise. I offered to help but nope… he is unhinged around other dogs but ok with people. Thank goodness he likes me and doesn’t react to my dog. That officer should never have another K9. I should have reported him but his k9 died of cancer at 2.
We have a young female working line GS, very sharp, intelligent and gentle animal. Faster than a bolt of lightning. She would be perfect for protection training but that is not what we want or need (in this part of the world). What we do is search and rescue, tracking and collapsed building ruins search work. It seems to come naturally and she absolutely loves it . The first time we went for forest search training she found the 4 persons hiding there in 5 acre area in 4 minutes, and she was just 7 months old. She knew exactly what we wanted from her. We have had 2 show line GS, white Swiss shepherd and a belgian tervuren previously (also collie, papillons etc) , but this work line GS is on another level totally. We wanted a bitch, and the breeder would not give males to families anyway, they all to police and border guard. Keep up the good work.
I love my check German Shepherd. She’s a great dog very smart 11 months old and comes from a great Breeder.
something that is a huge pet peeve of mine is when people get a dog and claim it's protecting their home when really the dog is just untrained and insecure and frankly dangerous because of his unstable behavior. people need to realize that if you want a protection dog you have to go through the hours and money of training in order for your dog to be a reliable PPD.
Cole Ackley, Absolutely false. I am on my 6th German Shepherd and were all show line and just had obedience training. All great watch dogs with huge amounts of energy, very smart and also very protective. I was out walking one of my German Shepherds one night when some idiot come up from behind me. What that dog did to him. the man was screaming call him off, call him off. It's a natural instinct for that breed to protect.
@@freddie3206 you clearly did not understand their comment, it was not applicable to you 🤦 he's talking about all the idiots buying puppymill pitbulls, shepherds etc , then chaining them up outside and letting them bark and lunge at people and calling it protection. I have a Boerbol who is a farm dog and I get weirdos asking about owning one all the time, majority of people can't discipline a Yorkie much less train a highly obedient and capable 200+ lb protection dog. My boy is very obedient and sweet, I have no doubt he'd protect me as he's done it before, but I can't think of a single common person I've met who would be able to handle him or even properly train him at pet level.
Or when people think that their possessive dog is protecting them when in reality it’s resource guarding.
Thanks for making this video. Always on point.
Thanks for watching
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So I have decided to get a Czech line gsd for my first gsd, the dog is three years old and has been socialized very well and is very good with people and dogs, will require around 3 hours of exercise each day both physical and mental
It’s allot of commitment but I have wanted one since I was 16. I have done my research and am prepared for the work
I have a female Czech/working line GSD named Freya. She is 10 months old. She is very dominant. None of my tones of voices were working a few months ago, and all the of 'typical' approaches to getting a puppy to stop nipping only excited her. I could not sit on my couch because she would run at me, nipping, barking, growling. You could tell my frustration rubbed off on her too. On the flip side, my husband would do a quick correction by grabbing the back of her neck (fat) and boom. She would stop. So I tried the same thing - she just bared her teeth at me. I had to make her lay down and stay 'below me' until she got calm, that's the only thing that worked to stop the biting. Now we got her an ecollar to disrupt that behavior and a place mat (she was already crate trained). Absolutely night and day. She is doing so much better because she is not gaining control of the household. If there are more tips and tricks on how to 'gently' dominate a dog I'll take 'em. We love her, and I try to let people know how much work she has been in getting her to this point. These training videos are the only ones I've seen that directly address a dominant dog breed - Thank you!
Wow, so much knowledge/experience/facts/wisdom in 10 1/2 minutes. I felt like I was talking to myself. Thanks for the reminders...Happy trails.
Excellent points.
Thanks!
''All animals want to be dogs. All dogs want to be Black Labs''. Stonnie Dennis. Just get the Black Lab, train it a little bit, then go have fun. My man here is right, get a gun for home protection. Every dog I have ever had would bark and growl at unknown noises. I imagine my man here is right, probably wouldn't attack an intruder, but that little bit of warning and seconds of delay is all i need to retrieve said firearm.
Very Very well done sir.. thank you.
Any advice to know the difference , I have a rescue gsd
My daughter researched for months before begging both myself n husband ddr make so I wasn't in it but since Dad said yes. We went on this journey .wasn't found of it cause we live in an apartment .we missed the first round of male puppies so we waited a year and we were on a list but not enough males were born ,so she could have waited but she couldn't and chose a female puppy which I was so relieved and happy about .I have trained my own boxer puppies and I have adopted so called problem boxers throughout my life and trained them .but I kinda new this might be next level .but I have to say our female Shepard is amazing ,she is so smart. like its so strange how smart she can be .she stays with my girls if someone comes to my door she sticks her head through there legs n watches. We never taught her this. Outside she doesn't let strangers near them like if they try to come up on them especially at night she stands on her back legs n low growls .until they walk in opposite direction n she's on all fours again .I live in south Florida and it's very bad crime down here .this dog is just awesome in the house and outside she doesn't lunge at people either she just stands her ground .I love love my girl 💓 lol daughters dog. Ok mine too .also she doesn't have accidents in the house seriously if she's sick and has the runs she goes to the door n jumps on it once n she waits to be leashed up n out she goes. She holds it .I can't wait to move into a home back up north I want another.
I have a Malinois and I’m looking for my next house protector. I know these GSD are high drive dogs, but in comparison to a Malinois would you say they have more drive, less drive, or?
coming back to this video again, my working line gsd came from a home where she was attacked by her mother on at least two occasions
she is nothing like this dog, she is extremely fearful, insecure and soft, doesn't have a mean bone in her entire body when it comes to her inner circle but is reactive to strangers and despises other dogs,
I inherited a very shitty situation and I am currently working with my trainer to bring out the best in this dog
This is such a great video, but I am absolutely distracted by this lovely goofy boy lol.
I grew up with Eastern German Sheppards (worklines) since I was a kid. SOCIALISATION is very important. That starts as a puppy. Make no mistake they need mental and physical challenges. Hiking, playing...Love... Training and patience... Since it's a workline, they are very eager to learn. At a very young age, you start with basic training. Put the food on the ground, and he/she has to wait till you give the command or sign to start eating. Playful learn to groom and check his/her teeth/body. Go hiking... Calm energy. No yelling. Reward positive behavior (praise, cuddle...) Correct or ignore bad/unwanted behavior. We did not do guard/attack training... On the contrary, people came all the time over (Socialisation). Other dogs, traffic, public transport... We never locked up any of our dogs into a cage. We never had any issues with our dogs. More experienced training, later on. Our dogs were unbelievably loyal, stable, and disciplined. I have 2 Eastern Germans Sheppards (workline) of my own since they were 8 weeks old. I raised them well. They see me as their parent and leader. I do not need a leash. Sarah stays on my left side and Kenzo on my right side. Both have been socialized since puppy. Never any issue. They love people and other dogs. Are not dominant at all. SOCIALISATION is key. Sorry, man, you do not understand this beautiful breed at all. That's probably because your dogs were not properly socialized. I also know people who only use their GSD as a guard dog and no or bad Socialisation. No hiking... I take my dogs on trips, on holiday...
I had a female East German working line shepherd, spent the first 5 years of her life schutzhund training her, daily. I live on a 16 acre horse ranch so I had the space to build her the training course. Ironically she was the sweetest dog I have ever owned, and I have had dozens over my 54 years, that said given a command in Dutch and her entire demeanor would flip on a dime. You make good points but to be honest in my experience the tendencies you have spoken on tend to apply more to males of the breed than it does to the females. I trained my mothers male working line GSD as well and he is EXACTLY the way that you described right down to having to give him trazadone and muzzle him to go to the same vet he has known since he was a puppy. My female, Freya, was the exact opposite. At the vet she was a social butterfly greeting every new animal and person who came into the waiting room unless I instructed otherwise. We have hundreds or wild rabbits on our property and she loved chasing them but before she took off she would always look back to me for permission to give chase, a shake of the head was all it took to stop her at that point. Every employee at the vet would come out to see her and pet her. I would love to say "It's all in how you raise them" but sadly it really isn't. My mom is the sweetest dog owner you will ever meet, heck I wish she treated me so well growing up and her dog is sweet and obedient to family and only family, zero social skills. Before the holidays Freya passed during surgery for a tumor she had on her gallbladder that burst. She must have been in pain for weeks if not months, she never gave a clue until it was too late. As much as it rips out my heart, I had 12 years with my little panzer and she was my lifeline. She made living with my ptsd almost tolerable and I have been struggling since she passed but this is my issue. Great and informative vid, it made me want to talk about Freya. Thank you for sharing and indulging my comment.
Thanks for sharing your story and for watching, we're so sorry for your loss.
My friend, I have a question... is there a legal sedation drug you can get over the counter for your dog, so you can take it to the vet or do his nails without getting bitten?. Thanks...
I enjoy camping in bear country and am interested in getting a dog that can alert me and potentially intimidate a curious bear wandering near my tent at night. I’ve been considering getting a working-line German Shepherd puppy. I grew up with show-line German Shepherds and some of my fondest memories are with these dogs. However, I found the show-line dogs to be too delicate. Do you have any advice, aside from not camping in the forest?
I have 12 working lines 7 are searching for a home they are 2 weeks now i have a non related 8 momth old east German lo g coated working line she is ferocious!! Shes definitely my personal protection dog
This man knows what he's talking about. This is exactly what I tell everyone who's interested in working Germans/Mals.
No kidding. Add corsos to that mix too. Folks want a ‘cool’ looking dog and do zero research.
Love your videos, they are so educational. Especially for those who are new to working breeds. I am curious, what happens to the dog if it bites an intruder in the us? Here in Norway, dogs have 0 legal protection, so if it bites an intruder, 8/10 times, it will be put down 😳 It’s crazy…..
Great Video. I always loved German Shepherds but never owned 1. This video answers questions I had on the Working Line German Shepherds compared to Showline German Shepherds. Also are the Solid Black German Shepherds bred for/from Working lines?
Wanting to get a GS for my family dog. Experienced owner who trains all of my dogs. Had Pits, Rottys and Malinois just wanting to know how good GS are with toddlers/kids, have a 9 month old.
I love the German working line so much I got 2 littermate males who are now 4 years old. Always "on" they are the penultimate guard dogs. They are smart, athletic and most of the time the biggest dufus' you will ever encounter. Although they are from the same litter, very different personalities. "The Gunny" is just like Sgt. Hartman from full metal jacket. Tough, loud, violent and opinionated. His "Bro" is "Odie". fiercely loyal, faster than light and the biggest goober in the K9 world. Both are great with our family. Never a bite or a nip even. Extremely disciplined and overly loving of their pack here at home.
Love this - the litter we got my puppy from was hilarious. 5 week old puppies, penned in their area, already barking and doing patrols. They were ready.
@@outrunning29 On the subject of patrols, my boys sit and watch On Patrol Live every Friday and Saturday night howling when the K9 officers come on screen!
#gsd
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Thank you for this information and the way you were very real about it. I was looking at a Czech /DDR GSD and I’ve decided I’m not going to get one. Awesome dogs but not for us.
I have a 4 yr. old 92 lb. working line GS that looks exactly like the one in the video except a little longer fur. He is very people friendly and very affectionate. Mine does have that make me attitude when you tell him to do something he doesn't want to do. He does mouth when he doesn't want to be touched. This makes it hard to give him treatments. He throws fits by scratching the ground and barking at it at the same time. He mostly does that when my grown son comes home after not seeing him for a few days. My daughter-in-law has a very dominant Yorkie who does bark at visitors and tries to attack their ankles and she has to be crated. Since I've been living with my son my dog is now starting to bark at visitors when they first come in. He is learning this from the Yorkie. She also viciously attacks him in the face for various reasons. The good thing is that he doesn't react when she does that. I don't know if she is dominating him or if he just sees her as being little and not a threat or maybe because we are always scolding him to leave her along. He has a very different reaction with a bigger dog that lives next door or any dog that challenges him. He also accidently bit me when he was fence fighting with the dog because he managed to grab its cheek through the chain link fence, I panicked and was smacking him in the face to let go and he did for a second and tried going for him again and accidently got my hand. He's had 4 trainers and am still looking for once since I moved to Arizona a few months ago. I want to stop the fence fighting and the anxiety and stress he exhibits when my son comes home. He's okay after a day of him being home. We don't know that triggers this behavior.
What’s honestly better today. Western work line like or ddr eastern work line?
There is no better. Depends on personal preference and the pedigree of the individual dog.
You look good in this video! Lol 2 years ago. You should get back to this form, if I’m being honest w you. You can do it. I know. Easily. You’re 3 years younger than me. 😊. And the info here on the breed is 100% correct. I own one also, and this advice is absolutely correct and you need to consider it before you get one.
Yep. My working line GSD (Grandfather was World Champion in Nuremberg Germany 2010, Ober von Bad Boll) is a badass. Luckily I am a single adult senior, so not so much an issue- when someone new comes in the house with me, he just really intimidates them the first 15 minutes or so, if they ignore him he just goes on about his business after that. But anyone comes to the fence, or the door- he makes it very plain that he will kill them and violate their cooling corpse then eat them...
your dog is related to mine!
After a decade plus in the Army and LE with working dogs, I've seen more friendly fire bites than intended bites. IME, these dogs are amazing at chasing down and stopping fleeing bad guys. But the notion of getting a legit protection dog as a "family guardian" is flawed for the reasons mentioned in the video. A dog that will naturally engage home intruders will also bite everyone that visits and be a massive liability. Or the dog will bite no one and provide no real protection other than early warning barks. If you don't enjoy the process of dog protection training, I strongly advise against getting a protection dog. That said, dog protection training is fun as hell.
I have a video that covers exactly what you said.
This video I think ua-cam.com/video/BaJphZrwhOc/v-deo.html
My DDR has been one of the most fun dogs I’ve ever owned. They take extra care and attention but the willingness to learn is mind blowing. Definitely the most intelligent dog I’ve had.
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I've handled and trained with hundreds of GSD. I do find GSD to be the most intelligent out of the working dogs I deal with (Labs, Pointers, Mal/Dutch, herderX, etc.). That said, I personally do not care for GSD. I don't recommend them in most working roles outside of some private security or PPDs. Especially for scent detection. Athleticism and work commitment are subpar. Almost a guarantee the first dog to cheat in training will be a GSD.
@Jessica
You don't have to believe me. You are the one using anecdotal experience with an irrelevantly small sample compared to what SMEs on the topic experienced. Michael Ellis, Ivan Balabanov, Haz Othman, Richard Heinz, etc. Lots of YT content out there explaining why you are wrong. They'll all say the same thing. Very few dogs will engage without training. And those same dogs with quality training will be far superior in an engagement.
At this point, I´m just going to get a Chihuahua from a good breeder and call it a day. I get scared of the breed every time you make a video about it, but it´s good to know the worst that it could happen and how serious is to get one of those breeds, like Cane Corso or Malinois.
LOL. Those things are demonic. The only reason they still exist as a breed is the fact they are so tiny, so their (regular) attacks aren't medically significant.
Hi Sir, My 4 months old German Shephard puppy is too scared of everything. Dogs barking, some vessel falling down, door knocks. How can I fix him? I got him considering he can be a protector of the house, but it looks like its turning other way around
The Gun thing is the best advice I’ve heard 😂💪
Have had 6 GS (domestic non-working variant), over 50 yrs… what are the real distinguishing differences between the working and non-working variants? If one is just looking for family pet/companion, how do you determine which to adopt?
Working line and show lines have very different conformation. Show lines have what's called a "roach back" to varying degrees and it allows them to have the perfect gait and stance while showing. But it also makes it so they're completely unable to perform basic agility movements, like jumping up in a truck. A working line shepherd is more high energy and because of that may not be a good fit as a family pet, but if your family is also high energy then a working line might suit very well. Working line shepherds usually have more slender bodies and straighter backs.
I Got WLGSD 2017, since Puppy, socializing is the key, since puppy, and let him know everything it was and still is trough me, and me only, food, play, sleep, bathroom. It is Better to get a rough start with a puppy and let him you are the boss. Now, Drago has 6 Yo, and is the al love Dog at home, nice with visitors, but aware with strangers. ALWAYS has to be supervised if he is outside the Kennel.
If he works everyday, fisicaly and mentally , it will be fine. My whole family enjoys his presence and feels secure with him. Even relatives that come often home-.
I have had both types of German Shepherd and they are totally different personalities. The American line is somewhat smaller and have less drive. Working line is a higher prey drive and you had to stay on top of everything. If you don't give them a job, they will make themselves a job...generally one you don't like.
I'm on my second working line gsd. She is great with everyone and everything... except squirrels. Lol. We train twice a day for 30 minutes each session. No bite work. She is nice to everybody. I don't think she'd attack a robber.
Mine is absolutely great as well.
Thanks for explaining everything.
Thanks for watching
I bought a gsd 28 mos. ago
Hes registered. I bought him locally. Hes very energetic and does not like little dogs. How can I find out if he is a working dog?
Hi Garret, how long do you train your puppies and what is the sequence? For example from their crate to potty, to train then play. Back to the create?
Good day. I'm not sure on your question. It's very broad. Every puppy is different. We can train from 3 minutes to 30 minutes per session (typically 15-20 min). We focus training around their feeding time. Training is feeding, feeding is training. However, the dog is learning constantly. So, they're constantly under a watchful eye that is "training" them right from wrong. And, when they can't be under a watchful eye they are resting in their crate.
@@AmericanStandardK9 thank you . . .
making me wonder if I should get a mixed line to start with? (50% wl 50% sl)
My GSD is a sweet hart . She is 14 years old, and unfortunately I don’t think she’s going to be with me much longer. I’m thinking about adopting a retired service dog. I’m 79 years old. Would that be a good idea?
I got a female working like gsd at 13 trained it all by myself it attacks on command and whenever anyone approaches me friendly or not she has to smell them first Before they approach me or she will attack instantly and she’s not a human aggressive dog she’s a human friendly dog she’s just protective but she is animal aggressive
Does this include the West German Working Line. And what about females, are they any better?
I have a working line GSD female and while I wouldn't describe her as "dominant", she is very strong willed. Once she knows how to do something and desires to do it, and it aligns with what I also want, she's wonderful. But getting her to comply to commands is initially challenging. She learns quickly and is smart, so it's easy to assume she would be less difficult than a male, but I don't think it's really true. She's a lot of work.
What would be then the middle way ?GSD working line is too high energy show line is too soft. If i want a normal dog that at least be alert and good with kids ?
Do you find that there are general differences of temperament, trainability, tendency to be aggressive, etc. between male and female German Shepherds?
Can Czech Shepard be trained to retrieve birds and not chew them?
I hunt chukar, and I dream every time about having one of these dogs by my side,
My friends tell me you should get a pointer or a retriever but I don't need a dog to tell me where the birds are and I can use their help for finding and retrieving them,
I kove Shepherds specialy Czech Shepards, I want one for my house life and outdoor hobby and I am planning on having children so I want this dog fit for family and life,
Could this happen!?
Thanks
Wow man, I never understood what you meant when you said GSDs are not good family dogs, but this video has a lot of good points and I suppose with your backstory you would definitely know. But I just got an 8 month old GSD I think he’s the working line, still have to do some research but anyway thanks, very informative sir👌
I have a female also but she's part red wolf and is so dominant that times I want to let her go but I love her too much and worry so bad how will others treat her she's great with kids girls not to good with guys and well other animals are a big problem but she's very hard to control
Thank you for your videos. I particularly love the one about the Malinois talking about how so many of them use for military and police have Dutch in them (a given), but also a touch of pit and working line German Shepherd. I have gotten into debates with people on this platform over this subject with former military people insisting that military mals are pure Malinois. When I told him I had a breeder friend of Malinois here in California that even admit that in Europe they do this, he called my friend a backyard breeder. How come these people are so ignorant? Malinois do not have big cheeks and massive heads? nor do Dutch Shepherds. There are many major breeders breeding bicolor Malinois. Isn't that a dead giveaway that they are mixed? It's not an insult. If it improves the performance of the dog then I think there's no problem with it but people get up in arms about we talkin about it
Thank you. I've seen the same thing. They get offended so easily. I'll take a Malinois mixed with some other good breeds over a purebreed any day.
For a variety of reasons, KNPV is having a decreasing influence on protection work. It's a dying sport in Europe, alternative options are more cost effective, KNPV dogs can be excessive drive even for LE, demand is too high to be met solely from KNPV, etc. FCI lines, particularly in EE, are producing an increasing volume of protection dogs than ever before. There you can find more pure Mal/Dutchie.
That dog Thor might be the most beautiful GSD I have ever seen.
Are czech gsd usually more thinner? Like athletic built wise? I’ve seen some working line gsd smaller stature compared to the show breed
They probably keep them working weight and don't overfeed them, you have to do the same in falconry and with racing pigeons, keep them lean and hungry makes them more responsive, determined and faster more agile in the field.
German shepherds need constant mental stimulation. Either chews, playing tug, training, food puzzles, fetch, herding commands(come by, away to me), et cetera. Our GSD naps for about two hours a day, sleeps at night, and the rest is spent doing a daily walk and all the above mentioned activities. Ours was a rescue and holy cow I was not prepared for him but we figured it out after a month 😅.
Good good advice! 💪💪
Thank you
My working shepherd was amazing in every way i could possibly imagine.
He was full protection. He was easier than my min poodles bitches ! 😂
God I miss him. I’m looking for another dog. They are natural protectors, socialising is key plus exposing him to as much as possible.
Love this breed ❤
Where is the link for the part two?
What the best way to train my g what's the best way to train my German Shepherd to be a protection
When I grew up my parents always had medium or large sized dogs, so I love big breeds and energetic dogs. I think my 11 weeks Germany shepherd got some genes of both western and eastern working line and malinois. When I saw this puppy and his siblings, I noticed that he looked more like an eastern working line and malinois than other puppies, so I selected him because I always want a high drive dog. I am learning the ways to make him a friendly dog.
U need to set boundaries for him
A much needed PSA. I blame the breeders too. These dogs are not for the week and unprepared.
My jack Russell protected the house from a break in simply because he sounded absolutely insane when he barked as someone tried coming in the back door.
I had two other break in attempts where my dogs barking got them to leave.
None of those dogs bit or was aggressive. You don’t need some aggro dog for protection, this is right, a family dog is better
Very high energy I have one his name is ruger and he don't quit he don't sleep he walks around he never stops
hi i really liked the video just one question. can you guys do a video on choke chain and how their used. i wanted to chose a prong or choker for my czech shepherd
I'm looking for a short haired straight back working line German Shepherd.I need a protection dog Out.
Here in the country
I have a 11 week old kvnp Dutch shepherd and at that age she's a lot of work
What’s the difference between a Malinois and a working German Sheperd? Are they pretty much the same or would a working line German Sheperd be more calmer than a Malinois?
Malinois still much more energy. Working line shepherds just can be very dominant and naturally aggressive. Yes they can be a little more energetic but nothing outrageous.
Look at the Western Shepherds ftom Capel Canine
I’m so conflicted most people I talk to say that the working lines can be just fine it’s all about how you train them. I don’t want a sloped back gsd
They can be perfectly fine. We have two. One is a pussy cat the other is high drive.
My dad has a working line GSD x Malinois mix. He's definitely high af drive, but is generally a good boy.
He had another one too but sorrowfully that dog didn't get along with our other dogs so he's been rehomed. His new owner is not a sporty guy at all but the dog still adores him and they get along very well.
I don't doubt that there are some too-hyper-for-hobbyist GSDs as well.
i have a European gsd named leroy, was unsocialized with people and dogs at 4 months old never left his puppy pen.
he started out nervous around any new thing like cars / people / bikes / dogs. nervous means he pulls away and cowers a bit instead of barking.
once he became confident around cars / people via our walks on leash he started to get excitable when people would look at him he would start to bark wanting to go say hi.. this is not okay and can look very intimidatign to a child or elderly person.. i make him sit while they walked past then a simple ok to release him back to our walk, this allows him to realise that they meant no harm overtime as no ones ever aproached with out asking.
IF and WHEN my boy Leroy ever growl / barks at someone that does not deserve to be kept at a distance i tell him to Leave it in a calm but stern tone, and if he doesnt i follow through with a correction with his prong collar, this works.
as of spring this year, he walks beside me in a heel position (as good as a 8 month old is expected) - sits with leash pressure, goes down ANYWHERE ANYTIME via a hand signal and or a verbal Down.
i place him in a down if there is a dog off leash and let them walk past before releasing leroy back to our walk, its fine if others want their dog to let loose, this isnt the time or place for my boy to be learning to ignore my commands off leash.
disclaimer : i work with exotic animals as a trainer im not a certified dog trainer (yet) i have only got certificates in dog behavior and group management in a daycare setting, which is where my dog gets to "be a dog" and unwind with his friends in a SAFE controlled environment. i personally dont trust every one who owns a dog to be a dog handler, nor have the confidence to buck up if shit hits the fan which is why id rather have a Disciplined dog over a motivated dog.
The dog was neurotic because he was never properly socialized or handled just feed and penned up which is non ironically what they do to children in adoption homes in n Russia.
Dang, we got old. 1982 native born after my folks migrated here after the Vietnam War. Mine is all black. I fell in love with the GS after rescuing one. She made my Doberman look stupid. The Doberman breed is too aloof for me.
I love hod dog looks so innocent 😅😇 when he speaks about how he would maul you.