2024 Mazda3 vs Mazda CX-30 / Open and Shut?
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- On the surface, the CX-30 is a more versatile, AWD Mazda3 without a real price increase. After driving them back to back, the details favor the Mazda3. So which one is better?
Key competitors to also consider include the Honda HR-V and Civic, Subaru Crosstrek and Impreza, Toyota Corolla Cross and Corolla, and countless others.
Thank you, Royal South Mazda for letting me test drive some of the cars used in today's video!
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00:00 Background / Pricing
01:40 CX-30 Interior
04:44 Mazda3 Interior
05:50 Mazda3 Drive
10:12 CX-30 Drive
12:19 Reliability
13:32 Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
I just love Mazda's philosophy of offering tactile buttons and controls, and a simple digital cluster, instead of overloading the car with screens and more screens.
Couldn't agree more, in my opinion tactile buttons and a simple digital cockpit, should never be missed from the simpler models at least for each car manufacturer.
The 3 hatch is by far the better looking of the bunch. Reminds me of the 92 civic hatch of old. I would however prefer a cx30 when it loses the knee and elbow pads
Exactly they messed up big time there! They could in fact put some proper wheel arches over the wheels make them look wider.
This will prevent rust build up
Interesting video. You mentioned many things that other reviewers have not, like the quality comparison between the interiors.
I got the CX-30 Sport Select 2 months ago and it seemed to have all the features my wife and I were looking for and for a better price than nearly any other brand that would often add $1,500 or more for all wheel drive and force you to buy packages to get the same safety feature set that all Mazda's come with. We're satisfied with our purchase and hope that our CX-30 will last 200k miles.
Great job on improving the sound of your voice over bits! I'm impressed and flattered you listened : ) Wishing you continued success!
Thanks for noticing!
I have zero issues or complaints with my 2024 Mazda CX30 base model!
I just got one yesterday I know how you feel.
@@larryolsen-8998 the more you drive it on a daily basis, the more you'll be impressed how much you get for the price you've paid! bigger and powerful engine isn't necessarily better!! my CX30 2.5 AWD base model drives like a charm!
I went with the carbon edition. Love it and it turns heads.@@larryolsen-8998
Great .. what’s the gas mileage you are getting bro? I’m stuck between 3 and cx30
How is the car holding up if you don't mind sharing your experience with us?
Mazda 3 hatch manual for me. 👍🏾
I absolutely hate crossovers and SUV’s. Everyone and their mother drives one nowadays. I like having something different from the masses.
Own a Mazda 3 2021 manual. Love it.
I like the driving dynamics of the 3 vs the CX-30
I think I liked the comparison. I think I would like to see more. Crosstrek/Impreza. Legacy/Outback. Maybe HRV/Civic. I don't have a Nice U Tube chanal so I think I should let you decide what you want.
I think it's the left handed population that might have issues with the infotainment.
Both cars look great! but there’s something that I really like about the rear end of the CX 30. It looks so sporty!
I actually like CX-30's roofline and rear quarters better than the 3 hatch. But I can't get over the cheap looking plastic pieces and rear bumper, and the raised ride height. Ended up getting a 3 hatch turbo. Now 2.5 years into having this car, 2 major downsides of the 3 turbo: that torsion beam rear suspension and below average MPG by 2024 standards. If a Prius can get 220 HP (only 7 less than the 3's turbo on 87 gas) and almost 50 MPG with an independent rear suspension, Mazda has some serious catching up to do for their next generation of Mazda 3 if they decide to make it.
Edit: Comparison test idea - Mazda 3 turbo vs Prius Prime
You read my mind, just the comparison I needed. Maybe I'm crazy, but I've been infatuated with the CX-30's plastic cladding and overall look since the first time I saw one in the wild, whereas the 3 reminds me of a mobius strip... it's TOO cohesive. Thing looks like a portal.
Have a 2017 3. Looked at the 2023 3 and 30. Bought the CX 30 for better visibility and more airy cabin.
The 3 had worse visibility? Asking because CX-30 visibility is one of the only things scaring me away from it
@@roastbeefy0weefy yes definitely somewhat worse. CX 30 visibility from the front and sides is perfectly fine. Rear is so so but with a back up camera, cross traffic camera, and lane change alert, it never bothers me at all.
@@roastbeefy0weefy I have the 2021 CX 30 and the visibility is not the best. I can’t wait to return it. I know compared to the 3 it’s “bigger” but it’s still pretty compact. I loved everything about it but it’s pretty compact and feels like it’s having a hard time choosing between a sedan and a SUV. love Mazda in general though. Like they said, the safety features did make it easier to ignore how compact the CX 30 is. The drive is awesome though hehe
It does not flood in my area so I dont need a high floaty SUV with body motion. Smaller Mazda 3 MPG would also save a few bucks a day. In the end I will get the cheaper of the 2.
Generally I'd prefer a Japan made Mazda 3 to a Mexican assembled cx30. With the state of America's crumbling infrastructure though, it feels like cars are becoming a more difficult sell.
Agreed. I think the biggest reason for the quality disparity was the countries where the different vehicles are assembled. Mexico may have cheaper labor costs, but that comes at the expense of quality.
Agreed. States and towns aren't willing to fix roads correctly, and they're laid out and designed so poorly. They've been awarding jobs to the lowest bidder or "the local guy" and it shows. And it's not like we get a refund because the town decided not to pay for a good job.
In fact we get stuck with the costs: excessive and early wear to vehicles, higher chances of tires ripping or bubbling, higher purchase prices and gas costs as people are encouraged to get heavier and less aerodynamic form factors. Not to mention the safety factors taller vehicles with bigger blind spots pose at all speeds.
My Mexico-built 2022 CX-30 has been 100% defect & problem/issue free for over 2 years now. Not even a token cabin rattle yet to annoy me. My Japan-built 2020 Toyota Corolla SE 6-MT sedan was a bag full of defects & problems & I ditched it after 2 years & 10K miles due to all the headaches (& 2 towing adventures after being left stranded across town). My France-built 2015 Toyota Yaris SE hatch 5-MT also was a problem-fee experience except for one very minor build defect that was easily corrected by the dealership. Times change. Made in Japan vs made elsewhere isn't what it used to be. It's mostly a roll of the dice these days.
Yes sir. I have a mazda3 made in Japan 🇯🇵
@@stevenjames1138USA doesn't have cheap labor, yet USA produces Jeep and several other cars with subpar reliability. Make it make sense.
Was this video shot in summer?
I would really like a Made in Hiroshima Spirit Racing CX-30 or even a proper CX-30 hybrid would be incredible. At the very least, it would be great if the turbo trims were Made in Japan so that I can worry a little less about reliability. I'd go for a Mazda 3 hatch (better interior design like the doors and black headliner) but unfortunately I live somewhere with harsh winters and roads where a little more ground clearance is needed.
I have the 2024 Turbo Hatch and I also live in the mountains, Im not lying the AWD in the snow is truly INCREDIBLE. I had a 2020 NA model before I got this and I will say it wasnt as good as the new 2024. Ive driven in over 14 inches of snow going uphill in the middle of a storm no problem
I think the CX 30 will ultimately replace the 3. The CX30 is nice but needs a redesign sooner rather than later. I have 2020 Mazda 3 Premium and absolutely love it!
They drive significantly different, the raised height makes more difference than seems apparent. The 3 has a longer wheelbase and driving them back to back the 3 handles far better. I don't think the 3 will be replaced at all.
My roommate has a cx-30 and I have the 3 hatch. Was given a 30 as a loaner. I also considered the 30 when shopping but the ride height and driving position immediately turned me off.
No way the hatch is going to be replaced
Not everyone wants an SUV. I much prefer the 3 hatch and better driving dynamics of cars.
I have Mazda 3 sedan, bigger boot than cx-30 or hatch, manual gearbox. To me the best out of these 3 options (cx-30, 3 hatch, 3 sedan)
I'm torn between the hyundai kona n line s and ultimate at the min
The CX-30’s higher ride height and taller interior makes it more practical. Extremely agile and quick with the turbo engine.
The infotainment screen is perfectly sized for the cabin size.
Higher ride height or ground clearance isn't as practical if you ain't going off-pavement. The lower ground clearance would provide better agility / handling than the SUV.
@@nanionn.n.6951 Higher ride height is practical if you’re older or have mobility issues like me.
@@joeanunez the only thing is is I think CX 30 needs a little bit bigger gas tank
@@eleanormassaro5195 definitely.
@@eleanormassaro5195at least another 10 or 15 litres
I bought the cx30 for the higher ground clearance
I wanted a MT Mazda3 but could not for this very simple but frustrating reason:
I live in Quebec. We have garbage roads and harsh winters, and so the additional ground clearance, body cladding, and AWD are a must, for a vehicle you have to rely on during the winter months.
I am planning on getting a MT Mazda3 in a few years, as a second vehicle, if they still offer them at that point 🙄
The MT's slow disappearance is quite worrisome for me. I am completely unable to enjoy driving automatic cars. They just feel so boring and uninvolved.
Get the WRX. It ticks all the boxes, except maybe for ground clearance.
@@janoycresnova9156 I'll think about it. I had a bad experience buying a previously abused Crosstrek last year. But yes, it checks all the boxes... except the hatch. Which is a reeaal bummer. When that comes back, be sure I'll get one 🤙
There many manual transmission cars that are around, but like you said depending on locations in particular that limits a lot of options. Porsche still gives out manuals, but they are very pricey. Hyundais have some on their end, but they are phasing it out and they are FF cars. Toyota, Mazda, Subaru, and Honda being the last Japanese cars to offer manuals will again depend on the situation. WRX or the GR Corolla would be a pick for AWD system. Fun cars will be the BRZ, Miata, Mazda 3, Civic Type R. The other question is the stupid price and mark ups and is it worth it? Always those stupid reality questions.
Ugh my fiance wants the hatchback 3 and in a way I do too but with incentives and the deal the CX3 just makes sense. We even get the carbon edition.
But driving the Mazda3 was fun
@IAmJeka Coming from a 13 focus hatchback, I like the Mazda 3 hatchback, but that car(Mazda3) has an identity problem!!! The Car body screams I'm a premium Car!!! While the 18" wheels and Suspension says I'm A Race Car!!! I felt Evey single bump with the 18" wheels!! My focus has a better ride with 15" rims.
@@es-qf2gwlol well the Cx-30 honestly is a what the Corolla fros is to the Corolla. But it has a bit of ground clearance. However, inside it just feels a bit cheaper and the cladding on the outside also makes it look cheap.
They both drive nicely. We were able to negotiate the hatback3 carbon edition (non turbo) to a same out the door price as the Cx-30 but since it’s a lease, due to the residual value it’s more expensive to lease mthly.
All in all, I’m still torn hhahaha
I test drove a base model CX-30 earlier this week. Nothing exciting but it drove well and the automatic is tuned fantastically. Only thing is that they’re tacking on $1600 in add-ons.
I'm pissed. Mazda offers only FWD 1.5 as base and topped at 2.0 NA for Mazda 3 and just 2.0 NA FWD for CX 30 over here
The 3 hatchback is a head turner for sure. 30 looks so boring. Any car lover would choose the 3
My roommate has a CX-30 lease and i have a 3 turbo hb. I know on paper people say "they're the same car" but driving them back to back they are noticably different. In addition to the high center of gravity the CX-30 has a shorter wheelbase. Torsion beam comments to the side, the 3 handles corners far better. By comparison the CX-30 is on stilts.
Plus I mean the looks alone, send in the 3 hatch, or the sedan. That cladding on the 30....
Also the FWD mazda3, in addition to being significantly more efficient, gets an extra half gallon capacity in the fuel tank
That's exactly the thing. I know it's not in the comparison but I love the CX-5. However, as someone who doesn't have to worry about hauling family, I'd prefer something smaller and was looking at the CX-30. I'd get the hatchback 3 but I like taking occasional camping trips so the elevation of the 30 is more welcome. I'd get a crosstrek but the sleepy upgraded engine worries me during long drives when I have to pass semis, RVs, etc.
Now... congratulations to all who have the CX-30 and love the cladding but I absolutely abhor it. I loathe the cladding. I hate how it doesn't feel stylized at all - the new crosstrek and kona all have a buncha cladding but it's shaped in a way that at least it looks cool (imo). meanwhile, the CX-30's cladding is just 6 inches of following the curves and borders of the car. it feels lazy. It also reminds me of a starcraft 1's zerg overlord's lips lol.
I saw some overseas body mod kits for the CX-30 making it look like pretty cool (again, imo) giant hot wheels-ish, raised hatchback car/suv thing which makes the cladding look more acceptable. but why would I buy a new car then spend extra for that? I could be spending that money clear coating the car instead or something.
@@KyrosX27Get CX-30 in black or Machine Gray as the cladding is barely noticable with these colours. I wouldnt go with Soul Red, White or Silver as the cladding really pops out on these. I´have had CX-30 for 4 years and it was an amazing car. Great combination of utility and agility.
Mazda 3 hatchback the best!
When you stated the driving position was identical between the CX-30 and Mazda 3, it was a total deal breaker for me. Any time your knees are higher than your hips, comfort is compromised. Perhaps not for someone under 30, anyone else, a firm yes. Too bad as I really like the rest of the vehicle.
Get the hatch, end of story
BEAUTIFUL CAR!!
Mazda 3 hatch manual all the way.. wonder the 3 hatch redesign will be
Mazda 3 hatch ❤ much more comfortable to drive
In Australia we get both FWD & AWD however most people purchase the FWD. This saves $3,000 for a weight saving of 200lbs and hence improved fuel economy on both counts. 99.9% of Australia never sees snow so AWD is irrelevant. Very well manufactured cars with excellent quality components however let down with gimmicks of iStop and cylinder de-activation and the engine is an Otto/Atkinson hybrid and is still a "beta" in my mind. The automatic transmission is also rather jerky as Mazda's software is certainly "trying" to lock up the clutch pack right down to just 15 mph which is just silly.
They used to have a FWD CX-30 in the US. I definitely would have bought it for the reasons you mention.
Just remove the headrest in the back.better vision.
I just bought my cx-30 last week and almost immediately removed the center headrest. I've never driven a car with 4 passengers (parents minivan notwithstanding). Visibility improved greatly with it gone.
They both have horrible visibility and badly lack rear and boot space. Apart from that they're both great.
It's a good quality Mazda CX30
There are very few 3s in stock compared to the 30s. It's sad that the car companies are steering folks to trucks.
In Europe we only gett he 2l NA engines.
Mazda3 had mt so there was no choice unfortunately
We test drive our choices at least 3 times each, over a few weeks. The good and bad points start to stand out more. Maybe buy a used version of a more expensive vehicle instead.
With current incentives and inflated used prices, I might actually say new is a smarter buy versus lightly used!
@@Realistick Yep 0% financing if you can get it, is good as it gets!
I definitely prefer the looks of the three, but I don’t think any of these cars is winning any practicality awards. They are about a size to two size is smaller than everything they compete with in their class. If you want to use the backseats for anyone in these, they are a terrible time.
Last year when I was shopping for my 5th Mazda in 40 years (83 626, 90 626, 07 Mazda6, 14 Mazda3--there was a 95 Ford in the middle), I measured the cargo areas up to the safe load line (no blocking the rear view or above the front seat backs) of the CX-30 and the Mazda3 5-door. With rear seats down the CX-30 is an inch longer and an inch taller but the Mazda3 is an inch wider, which I find more useful; the total difference is miniscule. Since the Mazda3's dimensions were so close to my 14 I knew it would work. The CX-30's price premium was actually larger because the cargo cover isn't standard, and it was still selling over list, while the Mazda3 was under. AWD fuel economy is identical. The CX-30 did have my preferred Deep Crystal Blue with White leather interior, but I also like the Polymetal Gray with Red leather, so that's the Mazda3 I bought. The lack of power liftgate doesn't bother me; I'm old but not infirm or lazy.
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One frustrating thing is that in Canada, you can get a turbo CX-30 with a red interior but here in the United States, the combination is not available and the Carbon Turbo only comes in that baby puke sand color
The color combos are strange. I saw in Canada the MX-5 could come with white leather and tan interior (James from TH) while here we only have black or terracotta (darker tan).
Yesterday, I test drove both the 3 and 30 in GT trim and found the 3 rear suspension too harsh but the 30 was very compliant. Looking to pull the trigger on the 30 next week. Machine Grey Metallic with red leather seats.
I get annoyed about the CX30's Black panels.
i ❤ MAZDA
Sadly that manual transmission only comes in the gt! Which is stupid!!
What about other reviewers that say when the 3 is pushed hard, it gets out of control? Especially on windy roads. Whereas the 30 does not.
Sara n Tuned channel said that in a vid called The Wildcard Option 2024 Mazda3 Turbo AWD Review that reviewed the 3. Go to 8:47 into the vid. She's done a ocmparision vid like this one, as well. Weirdly, she took the CX30 off road and it performed shockingly well. She's kind of manly and goes into more details about engines and tech points than most reviewers. I can't tell if it's her or if she's merely reading a script that someone else wrote (a man). I would guess the latter.
I like your review style better and I'm not endorsing her. I couldn't understand half of what she said. She slurs her speech. She's sex ywith low cut tops but hard to understand and I'm not sure she knows what she is talking about. I'm guessing her first language is not English. Maybe Czech. But the accent is very slight. Most people wouldn't notice. I only noticed because she sounds like Ann deVille who moved to Czech and sounds that way now. I used to know her as a barista in Portland. I don't watch her vids.
The NA cx30 has a lethargic acceleration. Had to go with the 3 PP turbo. Very different cars
it's mad that mazda still gets away with selling cars without usable rear seats
Might the difference in assembly & gaps be due to the fact that the CX-30 is assembled in Mexico & the Mazda3 in Japan? Just wondering.
No, the sedan mazda3 here was also built in mexico
All North American CX 30 and Mazda 3 are assembled in Mexico. In Australia we get the Made in Japan product.@@Realistick
I opted for a 2022 Mazda CX-30 CE a couple years back. Wasn't a fan of the weird, bulbous Mazda3 hatch rear styling & look of it from various angles. Also prefer the elevated ground clearance & seating/driving position of the CX-30 vs the Mazda3. I would go for the sedan if I went Mazda3, simply due to aesthetics, even if less practical than the hatch.
Mazda 3 saloon over the hatch in the UK over the CX30 which costs the most here. Saloon roomier in back than hatch, brighter and less claustrophobic. More cargo space with slight versatility hit. More planted on the road and best fuel economy of the the trio, as better drag figs. But bizarrely, everybody flocking to heavier crossovers here, causing potholes, drinking more fuel and killing more pedestrians. Funny old world.
Nice cars for shorter people (those under 6’1 1”). As you said, very claustrophobic interior. Would not cross shop either of these (even with the turbo) with the VW GTI / Subaru WRX. Thanks for the excellent review.
Average adult American man is 5”10 and adult American woman is 5”4. Overwhelming majority of people are under 6”1, not just shorter people lol
M3 is 5k less than the CX30 in Canada
I wouldn't even consider a CX-30, because I'm a manual transmission snob.
Manual transmission always wins
Still can’t get past the cylinder deactivation on the N/A 2.5 no one talks about this very much I know Chevy and other manufacturers have had nothing but problems so I will pass for that reason
They were unreliable in the 80's and 90's, but GM is really the only one who has problems in the modern era with it (and not widespread). The trend amongst automakers is that when cylinder deactivation is first introduced there's 2-3 years of less reliability followed by years of it working just fine. Honda's have had it in their V6 without issue for well over a decade, and plenty of testimony of people owning vehicles long term with it.
There are plenty of issues from people messing with the ECU on their car getting engine damage, but that's just a bad tune job on their part.
@@markcoopers1930 thanks for the info 👍🏻
Probably because there’s been no reported problems with it!
@@markcoopers1930idk who pays you to say cylinder deactivation is trouble free but that feature will destroy any engine much quicker than normal. So far i cant find a single mechanic that recommends buying a car with it. People dont understand the physics of a piston moving in a cold cylinder.
CX 30 is made in Mexico and Mazda 3 is made in Japan
I believe they make the mazda3 in different places depending on which market and which car. Many are built in Japan but the sedan shown was built in… Mexico🇲🇽
@Realistick indeed it depends on the market, I live in Australia and our CX30s are made in Japan, after a year I can't fault it.
You have to be totally mental to buy a CX30 over a Mazda 3
Unfortunately that jekyll & hyde engine is too gutless, has poor torque down low and is a mechanic's nightmare if anything remotely needs attending to. Under the bonnet is it ALL engine plus it's taken them over decade to make them passable for reliability for the long term. Not good Mazda!
Say what!? I'm a "car guy". I love cars. I grew up anxiously awaiting the latest "Car and Driver" - not "CUV and Driver," "SUV and Driver" or "Truck and Driver". Big difference! Sorry, but with all due respect, nothing to see here.
What video did you watch?🥴
What on earth are you talking about? I'm guessing you meant to comment on a different video? 😂
NOW BOYS! JUST SETTLE DOWN AND GET THE MAZDA YOU WANT...I've had quite a few and have NEVER regretted it!😅