Always add at least a quarter of your malted barley (or use amylase preferably something like sebStar HTL) at around 150 Freedomheight and hold there until the mash loosens as the starch breaks down. Then raise to 190 and cook as you did. What this does is make the mash far less thick which makes stirring much easier and it reduces scorching. Once the corn mash has gelatinized lower the temp back down to 150 and add the rest of the barley to complete the conversion of the gelatinized starches to sugars.
Hi Chris, on your instructable you mention getting the JD wood chunks from Amazon, I get mine from B&Q at half the price than Amazon and Ebay. Also its easier and better to use flaked corn/barley as it has already been cooked when it is steam rolled, therefore cutting out the hour long boiling process. You just put it in 70'C water, stir then add your malt, let it cool to pitching temp and away you go.
I use a sugar wash to make spirit then add pieces of old genuine bourbon barrel and leave to infuse.How much spirit will you get from a 5gallon bucket of your mash???Also, what type of still do you use?
Hey great video. I just want to make sure i got this right. U used 6L pot with 3L water 4 times for total of 5.2 kg corn, 0.8 kg Barley malt, 0.5 kg Rey flakes. Then, in the process of each batch you ended up with about 5L of mash. So now you got about 20L mash. When you separated grains out, how much wash did you end up with ? In your recipe you mentioned something about 23L fermenter. So you added water to your wash to fill 23L fermenter? And if yes, then what kind of water? Thank you
interesting ..done the same sometimes sweet corn and at present I'm using cornmeal which is easier and less messy ..but I do find the corn taste and smell is better than using barley and other dry grains which you can get from homebrew supplies online and also I use dark oak wood chips for the flavour ...great stuff !
joxer cat I will probably use corn meal in future. get full instructions right here www.instructables.com/id/Tennessee-Whiskey-Bourbon-Jack-Daniels/ I use wood chips for ageing the spirit. the video doesnt show everything its just there for use in the instructable.
Hi I would like to know how many litres of wash you get from straining your mash and I would like to know the type of yeast and if you add any sugar to your wash. thank you
I went in to Walmart once and cleaned them out of corn meal .old boy said what you gonna do with all this ? Im.storing it up . Had to be 200 pounds .. I paid cash .. .f y i never get an abundiance of sugar when you get volume of corn meal .. and grind you barley malt fine and Rye .. get that good pepper taste rt off the bat .
it would work to filter it sure, you could even make it from pine, but you could have to consider the flavours it will add to the spirit, Jack Daniels uses Sugar Maple so if possible your charcoal should also be Sugar Maple if you are trying to replicate JD. but you can experiment with different woods if you want to make your own take on JD. but what ever you use your JD will never be the same as proper JD as one of the key things they use, the Yeast, you can not get anywhere. you can find stuff that is close though ;-) a good Tennessee Whiskey yeast or Bourbon yeast can be bought from White Labs I think which should help with the cherry notes at least.
Chris Fry thanks for the reply Chris... I have not many choices here in Turkey for the yeast, the one you used and any whisky yeast I couldn't find anywhere, so I will use a wine yeast... no problem to find oak chips, but no way for the maple charcoal... Maybe its better to skip this step and try to make a kentıcky bourbon
the yeast is very important, I used a wine yeast my self and because of that I didnt get the cherry notes in it. white labs is a good place to look for special yeasts
But if it's not malted then you're just going to extract carbohydrates and no sugars. The malt process converts the starch to sugar which is then of course turned into alcohol.
Its called spitting . When it bubbles . LoL . On a serrious note .your pot your using is just a wee bit small .. another 10 gallon added on to the 5 you got now be about rt .. back in the day . We cooked Mash in 4, ( 50) gallon 304 stainless barrels we cut the tops off .. malted corn about 25 lb 12 pounds each barrley and 16 rye and 60 sugar ... per barrel . All the backins went right into the thumper two pots .one ran rt into the second pot that hit the thumper rt into the worm .. it was running it 3xs .. it was comming 2.75 to 3 gals to make 1 gal hooch .. where you back it back sum is on your tempering . Happy cooking ..👍
Bourbon must be produced at not exceeding 160° proof from a fermented mash of not less than 51 percent corn, rye, wheat, malted barley, or malted rye grain, respectively, and stored and aged at not more than 125° proof in charred new oak barrels. If the whiskey is aged for less than four years, its age must be stated on the bottle.
Always add at least a quarter of your malted barley (or use amylase preferably something like sebStar HTL) at around 150 Freedomheight and hold there until the mash loosens as the starch breaks down. Then raise to 190 and cook as you did. What this does is make the mash far less thick which makes stirring much easier and it reduces scorching. Once the corn mash has gelatinized lower the temp back down to 150 and add the rest of the barley to complete the conversion of the gelatinized starches to sugars.
Hi Chris, on your instructable you mention getting the JD wood chunks from Amazon, I get mine from B&Q at half the price than Amazon and Ebay. Also its easier and better to use flaked corn/barley as it has already been cooked when it is steam rolled, therefore cutting out the hour long boiling process. You just put it in 70'C water, stir then add your malt, let it cool to pitching temp and away you go.
how many water in Liter do you need for Start?
I use a sugar wash to make spirit then add pieces of old genuine bourbon barrel and leave to infuse.How much spirit will you get from a 5gallon bucket of your mash???Also, what type of still do you use?
Hey great video. I just want to make sure i got this right.
U used 6L pot with 3L water 4 times for total of 5.2 kg corn, 0.8 kg Barley malt, 0.5 kg Rey flakes. Then, in the process of each batch you ended up with about 5L of mash. So now you got about 20L mash. When you separated grains out, how much wash did you end up with ? In your recipe you mentioned something about 23L fermenter. So you added water to your wash to fill 23L fermenter? And if yes, then what kind of water?
Thank you
interesting ..done the same sometimes sweet corn and at present I'm using cornmeal which is easier and less messy ..but I do find the corn taste and smell is better than using barley and other dry grains which you can get from homebrew supplies online and also I use dark oak wood chips for the flavour ...great stuff !
joxer cat I will probably use corn meal in future.
get full instructions right here www.instructables.com/id/Tennessee-Whiskey-Bourbon-Jack-Daniels/
I use wood chips for ageing the spirit. the video doesnt show everything its just there for use in the instructable.
Was the corn malted?
no
Hi I would like to know how many litres of wash you get from straining your mash and I would like to know the type of yeast and if you add any sugar to your wash.
thank you
masoud borafia its all in the instructable
www.instructables.com/id/Tennessee-Whiskey-Bourbon-Jack-Daniels/
hey mate..
can you a full recipe with this one.. ;) how much you use and what you use
+john hansen the link to the full recipe is in the description
I went in to Walmart once and cleaned them out of corn meal .old boy said what you gonna do with all this ?
Im.storing it up . Had to be 200 pounds .. I paid cash .. .f y i never get an abundiance of sugar when you get volume of corn meal .. and grind you barley malt fine and Rye .. get that good pepper taste rt off the bat .
what if we cannot find maple for making charcoal and use oak charcoal instead? Would this work?
it would work to filter it sure, you could even make it from pine, but you could have to consider the flavours it will add to the spirit, Jack Daniels uses Sugar Maple so if possible your charcoal should also be Sugar Maple if you are trying to replicate JD. but you can experiment with different woods if you want to make your own take on JD. but what ever you use your JD will never be the same as proper JD as one of the key things they use, the Yeast, you can not get anywhere. you can find stuff that is close though ;-) a good Tennessee Whiskey yeast or Bourbon yeast can be bought from White Labs I think which should help with the cherry notes at least.
Chris Fry thanks for the reply Chris... I have not many choices here in Turkey for the yeast, the one you used and any whisky yeast I couldn't find anywhere, so I will use a wine yeast... no problem to find oak chips, but no way for the maple charcoal... Maybe its better to skip this step and try to make a kentıcky bourbon
the yeast is very important, I used a wine yeast my self and because of that I didnt get the cherry notes in it. white labs is a good place to look for special yeasts
Thank you very much DriveGeek
Can you use corn meal instead of cracked corn or even grind up popping corn kernels?
yes
Is the corn malted?
no its not, just plain cracked corn, only the barley is malted
But if it's not malted then you're just going to extract carbohydrates and no sugars. The malt process converts the starch to sugar which is then of course turned into alcohol.
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The malted barley will aid in converting the corn starch to sugar.
Will it work with fresh corn?
should do, but I think dried corn has more starch which is what you need.
Where did you get the dry corn from?
its written on the picture of the sack in the instructable that goes with this video
www.instructables.com/id/Tennessee-Whiskey-Bourbon-Jack-Daniels/
Okey thanks.
Its called spitting . When it bubbles . LoL .
On a serrious note .your pot your using is just a wee bit small .. another 10 gallon added on to the 5 you got now be about rt .. back in the day . We cooked Mash in 4, ( 50) gallon 304 stainless barrels we cut the tops off .. malted corn about 25 lb 12 pounds each barrley and 16 rye and 60 sugar ... per barrel . All the backins went right into the thumper two pots .one ran rt into the second pot that hit the thumper rt into the worm .. it was running it 3xs .. it was comming 2.75 to 3 gals to make 1 gal hooch .. where you back it back sum is on your tempering . Happy cooking ..👍
Get a water cooler and dump it in there and then you don't have to get a blister
I read that Bourbon is suppose to be 51% corn
has to be at least 51% to be classified as bourbon.
Bourbon must be produced at not exceeding 160° proof from a fermented mash of not less than 51 percent corn, rye, wheat, malted barley, or malted rye grain, respectively, and stored and aged at not more than 125° proof in charred new oak barrels. If the whiskey is aged for less than four years, its age must be stated on the bottle.
Brumfield thanks for the added facts. I’ll go back and reread my book
how many water in Liter do you need for Start?