I went into Evangelion expecting Shinji to be super whiny and pathetic but when I saw this scene I was shocked. I really don’t understand the hate for shinji.
@Clippy It's not only that. Shinji doesn't fit the typical mold of what people expect the mc/hero to be. It's honestly why I feel he is one of the best MCs ever. Shinji is teenager going through a lot of emotional trauma and then gets handed the gargantuan task of protecting humankind on top of that. Shinji showcases fear, sadness, and self-doubt. Shinji feels human.
Yeah, I only saw the series in its entirety a few years back, but I’m with you there. SO MANY make him out to be one of the most cowardly (if not THE MOST) protagonists in anime, but I don’t think that’s fair! Don’t get me wrong, he’s far from heroic or badass on the level of other anime main characters. Having said that, however, he does still take action to help and protect others around him. And given that he’s just a normal kid without any remarkable powers or abilities, his reason to be apprehensive is warranted.
According Hideaki Anno, creator of Evangelion, the reason he hates Shinji is not because of his character but the fact that he's a reflection of Anno's 4 year depression
I think 'I mustn't run away' is better precisely because it's more distinct. 'Don't run away' becomes generic because it's what people are more likely to say.
The pure agonizing screams of Shinji killing this Shamshel was uncomfortable to watch. Ill never get used to it. This wasnt some heroic charge. Kid literally snapped from the pressure. 3rd degree burn on his hand, almost crushed his class mates [who are now in the entry plug making piloting the Eva harder] and gets impaled twice while running low on battery power [that he doubt sees and hears ticking down.] On top of a crippling depression, abandonment issues, and hell that is piloting an Eva. And he still wins? People are way too hard on Shinji. Dudes a badass even before the Rebuilds. Sans Eva Unit one going berserk, he has the highest Angel kill count out of the three pilots. Doesnt excuse a certain scene or ENDING THE FUCKING WORLD [not entirely his fault considering he had no control of the situation and was FUBAR in EoE].
Yeah he’s definitely badass but certainly not a hero . Thats why we love him he’s not out here making speeches about peace and prosperity. He’s just a kid who’s brought into a fucked up situation by both his parents and nerv . Hated disrespected, betrayed by the people he loves the most he still fights . That’s fucking powerful . Even though his willing to fight is selfish and immature , he still saves the day . Well untill episode 24 and eoe that’s when I stopped liking him .
Love that we don't even need any key words, you just put "a certain scene" and we already know what god forsaken scene you're talking about. I do love shinji, but i just can't forgive him in that ONE scene .
Toji is, along with Hikari, the most mature teenager in the series. After seeing what Shinji has to endure, he immediately recognizes that he was wrong to blame him for his sister's incident and apologizes. Unlike Asuka, who believes that everything revolves around her and is so insecure that she cannot admit that she is wrong, he is adult enough to recognize his mistakes and take responsibility for them, Since he has a sister to take responsibility for, he has the humility and moral compass that the redhead lacks. It's really tragic that Shinji couldn't have interacted with him more, because Toji could have been the older brother that the poor boy needed to become a man.
Toji was always his best friend, and in fact if you watch episode 19 (after the fight against Eva 03) you see that Shinji is upset and shows no fear of his father, he doesn't care what they say to him, because he has made up his mind. to stop piloting because of his injured friend, in addition to having a mature conversation with Misato where she herself confirms her maturity, Shinji was able to continue improving, in fact this is noticeable in the following episodes, in episode 20 he stops caring about the acceptance of his father and begins to think about Misato, Asuka and Rei, who in one way or another are there for him and that is why he decides to return to the real world, in episode 21 he puts on his pants and argues with Asuka about Kaji's death, Although he still lacks confidence to be able to console Misato since he does not know what he should do at that moment, in ep 22 he literally asks to be sent to fight Arael to save Asuka and prevent her from suffering more, although he is not able to console her (due to lack of confidence and social skills) at least try to help her in his own way, the problem is that during that time Asuka becomes more violent, Misato withdraws and becomes indifferent to their situation, making it much more difficult for him to Shinji achieve something, then the death of Rei and Asuka in a catatonic state make him feel guilty because he cannot feel capable of helping them, as well as he is terrified of Misato's proposal (not only because it seems bad, but because it does not It's not going to help him at all and it's only going to make him feel worse later) then they discover what Rei really is, causing Shinji great discomfort and the death of Kaworu, leaving him destroyed.
I'm sorry... I think this is the superior dub. The voice acting is pretty damn good. I felt that scream and when the music starts picking up... Good stuff.
some of the translations are a bit weird but overall I really do like that they got younger actors for the Eva pilots. I think Spike Spencer is great as Shinji but he still sounds a little too old for the role.
Sorry but ADV is ten times better than whatever "dub" this is supposed to be. ADV sure could sound cheesy but it sounded way more natural and likable compared to Netflix's butchering.
they went from Shinji crying to the fuckin happy happy netflix outro music. They really should get more than one outro track so it fits the mood better or smth
this scene goes harder then I can handle. I feel tears i my eyes every time I watch this scene. I feel sad yet scared by shinji. You can really feel and understand the pressure and pain that this awesomely written character is going through. This is one of my favourite scenes in all of anime hands down.
Spike will always be Shinji to me, but if there’s one thing Casey’s Shinji will always have over Spikes’s is those screams. Casey’s screams are genuinely so damn raw I have to give the actor credit where it’s due, even if I feel like the voice itself is to girly for Shinji.
Ive been crying watching this scene. He’s going through hell again, but being stronger than anyone could ask, and now theres people who recognize how bad it really is. They feel for him and I live through it because nobody knows what Ive been through, nobody knows how bad its been and his classmates give me that salvation of understanding
Just realized answering another post about series. Still my favorite to this day, a serial watcher. Really its good display of each kind of child mindset in the midst of battles. One really does not desire it but feels he must. One is bathed in nothing but combat and devotes all to the mission. The other has something to prove with superiority complex to hide her inner unstableness of emotions. All three are thrust into a fight each time with the world on the line further amplifying above in all the wrong ways. Meanwhile the adults can only really watch and try to guide them. This is where Misatto realizes in the end Shinji needed love but was blind he had it, Asuka needed to know its ok to be vulnerable, and Ray can desire more than the mission. She spends most of the series gradually opening up as a mother figure seeing the scars and wants to fix them. In the end encourages them to do what they felt best for themselves. Ray excluded as Gendo gives her little choice. Asuka embraced her situation and had a stronger drive. Pushing past her past trauma. End Result Ray completing Lilith but to some degree willingly goes with the plan offering Shinji humanities future. At least seems like that anyway.
@@tygerchickchibi It was not the only dub that did it. In the congratulations scene, the new english dub also did it as well I have a dub comparison video of that scene in the brazilian dubs (there are three) and in the actual dub from Portugal. You can find it in my channel if wanna see it
@@OutFreak28 Ten en consideración que el ya ha envejecido bastante desde la época del primer doblaje. En mi opinion, su caracterización aquí fue bastante buena.
Especially when he has the most badass antithesis in the form of Simon the Digger, and I know that's true, thanks to how each protagonist was motivated to pilot their respective mecha
@@etam8099 Look at the Weeb forums. The same goes for at Japanese side, look at the otaku forums. But! Japanese professionals and literary fans have a huge respect to structure of Ikari Shinji for being a multi-layered and complex protagonist which I agree.
El grito en el doblaje español no me gustó, en el japonés suena desgarradoramente fluido en cambio en el español suena como una gaviota ronca tratando de cantar bien.
I still would've preferred if Netflix used the ADV dub instead of wasting resources to redub it again. Just seems like a pointless addition that has no reason to exist but to make it "exclusive" to the platform.
@@agentoranj5858 What's absurd about their failure to license portions of the show, is the gratuitous amount of money they slapped on the table to outbid Funimation. Pure greed. They were willing to put 100x the amount licensing would cost into simply waving their dick around to send a message.
it’s funny you mention that, Casey Mongilo (shinji’s Netflix va) posted how this scene was recorded during the middle of a mental breakdown he had. I do agree with you though, that’s what happens when a Japanese staff is 100% hands on with a dub with no room for changes
I went into Evangelion expecting Shinji to be super whiny and pathetic but when I saw this scene I was shocked. I really don’t understand the hate for shinji.
@Clippy THIS. THANK YOU.
@Clippy It's not only that. Shinji doesn't fit the typical mold of what people expect the mc/hero to be. It's honestly why I feel he is one of the best MCs ever. Shinji is teenager going through a lot of emotional trauma and then gets handed the gargantuan task of protecting humankind on top of that. Shinji showcases fear, sadness, and self-doubt. Shinji feels human.
Because he is super whiny and pathetic
Yeah, I only saw the series in its entirety a few years back, but I’m with you there. SO MANY make him out to be one of the most cowardly (if not THE MOST) protagonists in anime, but I don’t think that’s fair!
Don’t get me wrong, he’s far from heroic or badass on the level of other anime main characters. Having said that, however, he does still take action to help and protect others around him. And given that he’s just a normal kid without any remarkable powers or abilities, his reason to be apprehensive is warranted.
According Hideaki Anno, creator of Evangelion, the reason he hates Shinji is not because of his character but the fact that he's a reflection of Anno's 4 year depression
i always find the dubbing on this anime beautiful, they give it their all while not sounding too cringe. just sounds natural.
On a scale 1 to 10 how would you rate the scream?
casey is the goat
@@zakuto4947 8
The most powerful part of shinji is his scream
@Clippy you call it bardiel or Eva-03
he should star in a King Kong movie
He kinda screams in lower case in german...but its best in english and japanese
That sob afterwards. You got to feel for him. He gave his all, but it will never be enough.
i think "don't run away" sounds a lot more real than "I mustn't run away", i mean how many times have you heard someone even utter the word "mustn't"?
I think 'I mustn't run away' is better precisely because it's more distinct. 'Don't run away' becomes generic because it's what people are more likely to say.
@@heinoustentacles5719 exactly that really urked me when i just watched this clip
the i mustnt run away was so iconic
@@heinoustentacles5719 I shan't ride the vehicle of leg, I shan't ride the vehicle of leg
This was one of my favorite moments in the whole anime. You can feel the frustration and anger in the scene
The pure agonizing screams of Shinji killing this Shamshel was uncomfortable to watch. Ill never get used to it.
This wasnt some heroic charge. Kid literally snapped from the pressure. 3rd degree burn on his hand, almost crushed his class mates [who are now in the entry plug making piloting the Eva harder] and gets impaled twice while running low on battery power [that he doubt sees and hears ticking down.]
On top of a crippling depression, abandonment issues, and hell that is piloting an Eva.
And he still wins? People are way too hard on Shinji. Dudes a badass even before the Rebuilds. Sans Eva Unit one going berserk, he has the highest Angel kill count out of the three pilots.
Doesnt excuse a certain scene or ENDING THE FUCKING WORLD [not entirely his fault considering he had no control of the situation and was FUBAR in EoE].
Yeah he’s definitely badass but certainly not a hero . Thats why we love him he’s not out here making speeches about peace and prosperity. He’s just a kid who’s brought into a fucked up situation by both his parents and nerv . Hated disrespected, betrayed by the people he loves the most he still fights . That’s fucking powerful . Even though his willing to fight is selfish and immature , he still saves the day . Well untill episode 24 and eoe that’s when I stopped liking him .
Love that we don't even need any key words, you just put "a certain scene" and we already know what god forsaken scene you're talking about.
I do love shinji, but i just can't forgive him in that ONE scene .
People tend to forget he is just a kid.
He actually tried to restore the world to its former state by ending Instrumentality
Still amazing netflix got this anime on their platform
Fax
What's equally amazing is that GKIDS got the home video rights
Now if only they can get the Rebuilds...specifically the final one :)
Except for the fact that the new voices and translations are terrible, thank goodness I still have the old dub
With money even the dog can dance 🥴
i didn't know videos on youtube could have multiple audio audio tracks?? this is dope!
but i can't change the audio into japan.
I know, found that out when I watched Lupin III: The First on digital
Shinji uses screech. It was super effective.
That wasn't screech that was ROARING
Screech is a status move tho-
@@kujojotaro1395and now the angel’s status is dead
Toji is, along with Hikari, the most mature teenager in the series. After seeing what Shinji has to endure, he immediately recognizes that he was wrong to blame him for his sister's incident and apologizes.
Unlike Asuka, who believes that everything revolves around her and is so insecure that she cannot admit that she is wrong, he is adult enough to recognize his mistakes and take responsibility for them, Since he has a sister to take responsibility for, he has the humility and moral compass that the redhead lacks.
It's really tragic that Shinji couldn't have interacted with him more, because Toji could have been the older brother that the poor boy needed to become a man.
Toji was always his best friend, and in fact if you watch episode 19 (after the fight against Eva 03) you see that Shinji is upset and shows no fear of his father, he doesn't care what they say to him, because he has made up his mind. to stop piloting because of his injured friend, in addition to having a mature conversation with Misato where she herself confirms her maturity, Shinji was able to continue improving, in fact this is noticeable in the following episodes, in episode 20 he stops caring about the acceptance of his father and begins to think about Misato, Asuka and Rei, who in one way or another are there for him and that is why he decides to return to the real world, in episode 21 he puts on his pants and argues with Asuka about Kaji's death, Although he still lacks confidence to be able to console Misato since he does not know what he should do at that moment, in ep 22 he literally asks to be sent to fight Arael to save Asuka and prevent her from suffering more, although he is not able to console her (due to lack of confidence and social skills) at least try to help her in his own way, the problem is that during that time Asuka becomes more violent, Misato withdraws and becomes indifferent to their situation, making it much more difficult for him to Shinji achieve something, then the death of Rei and Asuka in a catatonic state make him feel guilty because he cannot feel capable of helping them, as well as he is terrified of Misato's proposal (not only because it seems bad, but because it does not It's not going to help him at all and it's only going to make him feel worse later) then they discover what Rei really is, causing Shinji great discomfort and the death of Kaworu, leaving him destroyed.
I'm sorry... I think this is the superior dub. The voice acting is pretty damn good. I felt that scream and when the music starts picking up... Good stuff.
@Clippy the translation is really literal so a lot of dialogue doesn’t have the same effect in english (like vs love etc)
some of the translations are a bit weird but overall I really do like that they got younger actors for the Eva pilots. I think Spike Spencer is great as Shinji but he still sounds a little too old for the role.
@@zephilandevolI agree, not using curse words by saying “I’m the worst” instead of “I’m so fucked up” also ties into that.
Sorry but ADV is ten times better than whatever "dub" this is supposed to be. ADV sure could sound cheesy but it sounded way more natural and likable compared to Netflix's butchering.
@@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9rThe Netflix dub is great. You clearly have a bias toward the ADV dub and refuse to give this one a chance.
And just think, the other two felt a glimmer of the pain receptors and shinji's suicidal rage by just being in the entry plug.
they went from Shinji crying to the fuckin happy happy netflix outro music. They really should get more than one outro track so it fits the mood better or smth
Rei’s theme ain’t happy dawg
There needs to be a fan project that has h these versions of the episodes but restores fly my to the moon and it’s other versions
Bro fucking S N A P P E D. the shift from seemingly calm to mentally broken was so sudden. I was so unsettled by this fight when i first watched it
Shinji's rage screams is almost sound just like Nicol's death screams from the English redubbed version of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED.
same va
@@gareckthetailor9918 true.
The same voice actor.
0:40 "Bullshit, you didn't convince me! Let me see your REAL war face!"
this scene goes harder then I can handle. I feel tears i my eyes every time I watch this scene. I feel sad yet scared by shinji. You can really feel and understand the pressure and pain that this awesomely written character is going through. This is one of my favourite scenes in all of anime hands down.
I don’t care what anybody says Casey Mongilio’s Shinji rules
Spike will always be Shinji to me, but if there’s one thing Casey’s Shinji will always have over Spikes’s is those screams.
Casey’s screams are genuinely so damn raw I have to give the actor credit where it’s due, even if I feel like the voice itself is to girly for Shinji.
Ive been crying watching this scene. He’s going through hell again, but being stronger than anyone could ask, and now theres people who recognize how bad it really is. They feel for him and I live through it because nobody knows what Ive been through, nobody knows how bad its been and his classmates give me that salvation of understanding
One of the best Animes of all time, although convoluted due to the internal politics of the studio; it's a great Anime nonetheless...
This is his easiest fight in the series and people still wonder why he always runs away from piloting
Just realized answering another post about series. Still my favorite to this day, a serial watcher.
Really its good display of each kind of child mindset in the midst of battles. One really does not desire it but feels he must. One is bathed in nothing but combat and devotes all to the mission. The other has something to prove with superiority complex to hide her inner unstableness of emotions. All three are thrust into a fight each time with the world on the line further amplifying above in all the wrong ways.
Meanwhile the adults can only really watch and try to guide them. This is where Misatto realizes in the end Shinji needed love but was blind he had it, Asuka needed to know its ok to be vulnerable, and Ray can desire more than the mission. She spends most of the series gradually opening up as a mother figure seeing the scars and wants to fix them.
In the end encourages them to do what they felt best for themselves. Ray excluded as Gendo gives her little choice. Asuka embraced her situation and had a stronger drive. Pushing past her past trauma. End Result Ray completing Lilith but to some degree willingly goes with the plan offering Shinji humanities future. At least seems like that anyway.
*Rei
Slaps eva
This bad boy can torture so many kids
Hands down one of the best scenes
0:18 time traveler meme here
I came here from tiktok 😭
can link me?@@LaytheBRO
Cada "No debo huir" del Shinji se siente la desesperación bien feo. :(
シンジくんの叫び声とすすり泣きはサイコーです❤
彼の複雑な感情、恐怖、弱さがとてもよく表現されていると思います❤
このシーンは一番のお気に入りです❤
The first few episode of evangelion were the best
Megumi Ogata PAID THOSE BILLS with Shinji's screams, lets be real.
0:40 run.
0:41
the shinji battle cry
0:40 momento epico
When you just get off the school and then get thrown to a bomb defusal mission
Honestly while I don't like some of netflix's changes, I gotta say the voice cast was pretty spot on. Shinji actually sounds 14, as does Toji!
Holy fuck I did not remember Shamshel being like twice the size of Unit 01
Lástima que en la película el grito de ver a Asuka destruida no fue como estos de aqui ☹
Say what you will about Shinji but he is one of if not anime's most realistic main protagonist
シン・エヴァが延期されたので見に来た😀
公開するまでいつまでも待ちますよ
Shinji was screaming in pain probably too from being impaled....Eva syncs with pilot 😮
Not only impaled, but also feeling those whips burning to his bones.
A única coisa que me incomoda um pouco é o fato do pessoal ter se esquecido de dublar algumas reações, mas fora isso a dublagem ficou excelente :)
Shinji's scream gives me a chill
This is amazing, hearing it in different languages!!!
Did...the Portugal version just copy the Japanese audio tho?
It's not Portugal, it's Brazil. Its the brazilian dub.
And, yeah, they reused the japanese scream here.
@@DrGumballMordecai oh, thank you for clarifying! I appreciate it 🙂
@@tygerchickchibi It was not the only dub that did it. In the congratulations scene, the new english dub also did it as well
I have a dub comparison video of that scene in the brazilian dubs (there are three) and in the actual dub from Portugal. You can find it in my channel if wanna see it
@@DrGumballMordecai sure!
You can add the 1995 dinyt dubbing so, in my opinion, it would bring you closer to the platform
End add Dinyt dubbing EVA films too
Al ver esta escena sigo pensado "Si Shinji hubiera obedecido a Misato ¿Que habrian hecho contra el Cuarto Ángel después?"
Meilleur animé. Par contre la vf de shinji 😭😭
beautiful screams mm~
Evangelion era foda
Ainda é
Escuchar chillar a Víctor Ugarte es un deleite
el ingles y el japones lo superan por mucho
@@juanitouchiha6667 a que bien
Cierto pero creo que lo mejor es la gran caracterización que hace de shinji
Le salió bastante mal, comparado con el primer doblaje dónde también hace a Shinji
@@OutFreak28 Ten en consideración que el ya ha envejecido bastante desde la época del primer doblaje. En mi opinion, su caracterización aquí fue bastante buena.
Multi audio on youtube wtf
I like the original voices.
Imagine the voice actor
Pobrecito el chinji
Tiene que hacerlo, para salvar a Armin y a Mikasa... Espera que anime es este 🥴
@@OutFreak28 No compares a EvanGODlion con ese anime de final horrible.
@@diegoramirez9079 los dos estan horribles
This shit makes my cry
十字爆破しなかった使徒でしたね
Everytime he screams its sounds like victim being butchered
SeAsON 2 pLeASe
Lol
@@Magooser Lmmfatfo
@@NubianMessaiah ?
@@etam8099 sup
Evangelion doesn't have a season 2
初号機対シャムシェル、このシーンが大好きです。パチンコ必勝ガイドの投稿に。シャムシェル、のペンネームで送ってました
不惜違抗命令，也要殺了使徒
至少想在同學面前帥一波
Shinji Ikari, the only anime protagonist that Weebs hate at grand spectrum.
Especially when he has the most badass antithesis in the form of Simon the Digger, and I know that's true, thanks to how each protagonist was motivated to pilot their respective mecha
They hate him? Wasn't he loved AF?
@@etam8099
Look at the Weeb forums. The same goes for at Japanese side, look at the otaku forums.
But! Japanese professionals and literary fans have a huge respect to structure of Ikari Shinji for being a multi-layered and complex protagonist which I agree.
I don't care what anyone says, for me he's an amazing character.
PLS POST MORE
Me seeing the end: 😐
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤯
El grito en el doblaje español no me gustó, en el japonés suena desgarradoramente fluido en cambio en el español suena como una gaviota ronca tratando de cantar bien.
THE DUBS FUCKING HUUUURRRTTT
The VA for Shinji was doing fine with the screaming until she pitched it too high where she made it sound forced. kind of over did it a bit
shinji's english va uses they/them pronouns
I mean shinji got his heart stabbed by the angel (cause of the Syncro) of course it would be pain screamings
@@hutaogaming2291 shut up
Nah I think it was good imo
Tac tac tac!
I still would've preferred if Netflix used the ADV dub instead of wasting resources to redub it again. Just seems like a pointless addition that has no reason to exist but to make it "exclusive" to the platform.
If in doubt, assume there's a licensing issue.
@@agentoranj5858 What's absurd about their failure to license portions of the show, is the gratuitous amount of money they slapped on the table to outbid Funimation. Pure greed. They were willing to put 100x the amount licensing would cost into simply waving their dick around to send a message.
ようやっとる
Hard to break
Y’all gotta be honest with yourselfs. Netflix dub >>>> og dub
Ultimatum
フタエノキワミ
Shinji girl stop screaming
Then get on the eva and have the angel impale you with his whips that burn and melt whatever they touch and see how it goes.
Les gens non français qui ce demande quel est cette langue mdr
Krl o vídeo em português só com comentários em inglês kakakakakakak
é multi-audio, voce escolhe nas configuracoes qual dublagem quer
@@devaneiosheroicos tendi vlw por explicar 👍
Dyilluo
I just can't get over how emotionless and uninvolved this dub sounds at times.
it’s funny you mention that, Casey Mongilo (shinji’s Netflix va) posted how this scene was recorded during the middle of a mental breakdown he had. I do agree with you though, that’s what happens when a Japanese staff is 100% hands on with a dub with no room for changes
Just in case you didn't know, this is multi-audio! Change the audio to the better one (Japanese).
Its not the Dub I recall at all.
High standard much what do i expect from a sub etilist
Pageee
El doblaje original es mejor
shinji screams like a girl!
He screams like a beast!
He’s voiced by a girl in the Japanese