Aluminum MIG vs TIG Welding

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
  • Let's explore the 2 most common processes for welding aluminum
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    🧰 Tools Used In This Video 🧰
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    -For MIG & TIG - Revolution 2500
    -For MIG - ProPulse 220
    -For TIG - Invertig 221
    📖 Chapters 📖
    0:00 Welcome
    0:23 MIG Welding Aluminum
    6:17 Welding Machine
    6:40 TIG Welding Aluminum
    9:36 Summary
    🙏Thanks for Watching!🙏
    Gas Metal Arc Welding (GMAW) and Gas Tungsten Arc Welding (GTAW) are both great processes for welding aluminum. Watch this to find out which welding process is better for your project.
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  • @josiahutah3712
    @josiahutah3712 3 місяці тому +8

    Nice Tim! I can’t believe one volt made that much difference

  • @rjbath5041
    @rjbath5041 3 місяці тому +9

    Very well presented. Thanks for keeping the solution understandable and simple.

  • @LavoniaSantaella
    @LavoniaSantaella 3 місяці тому +3

    Learning to weld aluminum is like trying to teach a stubborn metal to dance - with Tim as the patient dance instructor!" 😄🕺

  • @user-kh2yl6nn3l
    @user-kh2yl6nn3l 3 місяці тому +6

    A great tutorial on the differences between the two Tim . :)

  • @gearhead181
    @gearhead181 3 місяці тому +1

    The slope down feature on the revolution and pp220 is a game changer for the craters I absolutely love the features of these machines and how smooth they are and I’m really glad guys like you and others are doing more videos with them because it’s helping me figure out how to use the machines features better I always say the machine is smarter than I am

  • @melgross
    @melgross 3 місяці тому +3

    Hi Tim. This has nothing to do with the points of this video, but I thought it would possibly be helpful. As you know, I have the same table. I use 1/4” thick copper plates under small weldinds I’m doing and often use a spatter shield spray. A couple of weeks ago I was doing that and had some odd problems with the welds. The welds were fine, but somehow the metal looked like it sputtered all the weld shmutz off and it looked very bright. I was welding some A-36 with 309L wire with 100% argon. I’ve done that in the past with no problems. Sometimes I prefer that to 75/25 as I can’t get other mixes in the 80 cu bottles. When I finished and removed the copper, I noticed that some of the black surface had come off the table in odd patterns. It was, fortunately, a small area. I found that small particles had worked themselves under the copper and between the copper and the work and the areas right around them apparently had taken a heavy dose of amperage due to poor contact and lifted some of the blackening off. I’ve never had that happen before, but I thought it would be interesting.

  • @tedbastwock3810
    @tedbastwock3810 3 місяці тому

    Great comparison. For the projects Ive done so far, the actual welding time is a surprisingly small proportion of the total project time. This, among other things, has led me to want to buy a TIG machine. Admittedly, I have only done a few small to medium projects using a small flux core machine so far, but it has helped me learn where I want to go next. Thanks, Tim.

  • @andyb7754
    @andyb7754 3 місяці тому +1

    Very good information Tim, thank you.

  • @ZILAwelds
    @ZILAwelds 3 місяці тому +1

    Very good demonstration !

  • @jamesyates5191
    @jamesyates5191 3 місяці тому +4

    Your welding courses are great. Well worth the money.

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate it.

  • @ypure3859
    @ypure3859 2 місяці тому

    Beautifully clear and well paced vids. I am new and want to learn to weld. Really enjoy you vids. I have subscribed

  • @donaldhalls2189
    @donaldhalls2189 3 місяці тому +1

    Every time I watch I work out where I'm going wrong 😂, aspecialy with heat on a lot I would turn it up, hoter the better rite 😂😅 haven't started tig yet ,but mine is lift tig no pedal, bought,it before I started watching, 😢 but it performs a lot better than my Telwin 😂😅 not even produced anywhere, only mig, thanks for sharing, being very instructive, great to follow, all the best to you and your loved ones

  • @georgebuck2269
    @georgebuck2269 12 днів тому +1

    Aluminum is the only common metal that has to be free of all oil, grease, paint, gum from labels and any anodize coating. When you file, grind or use a carbide burr, you also remove the oxide layer which lowers the melt temperature. Most welders also clean it with acetone. Most medium to large welding shops that do military spec aluminum welding have chemical tanks to etch or clean the aluminum in. All metals are TIG weldable except zinc which is the plating used on galvanized steel. The short list: steel, aluminum, stainless, copper, brass and titanium. And you can only use Argon or a mix of Argon/Helium for TIG welding. Argon/CO2 is only for MIG.

  • @gholdsfishing3144
    @gholdsfishing3144 2 місяці тому +1

    Would you mig .080 aluminum or is it too thin. I have a project i need to join 1/4” angle to .080 plate. Figured id be ok if i just focus my puddle on the thicker material

  • @abdullahimarlians5721
    @abdullahimarlians5721 3 місяці тому

    Nice work

  • @behemothinferno
    @behemothinferno 3 місяці тому

    The arc can be very erratic on AC TIG so I find myself using MIG for aluminium more often than TIG as I seem to be getting a more consistent bead.

  • @DodgyBrothersEngineering
    @DodgyBrothersEngineering 3 місяці тому

    When looking through the camera, your TIG filler rod looks a lot lower angle then when you are shooting the same shot from further back. I'm currently doing a TIG course, and what you demonstrating is in line with what I have been taught.

  • @georgesmathers6056
    @georgesmathers6056 3 місяці тому

    Thanks

  • @user-ui4yx2kq1d
    @user-ui4yx2kq1d 7 днів тому

    ❤how do you minimise the bead width and height when mig weld Aluminium 😊

  • @ROBOROBOROBOROBO
    @ROBOROBOROBOROBO 2 місяці тому

    Hi Tim, I will buy all your courses and get into the world of metal working and welding. Is there a welding machine that you recommend? That hopefully can weld using different technologies to start your courses?
    I already have built a CNC plasma cutter and I will buy a sheet metal bender soon to make all sorts of DIZ projects. Thanks for inspiring me.

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the comment! That plasma table project sounds awesome! The machine I used in this video, HTP Revolution 2500 (linked in description), is the best all around machine on the market right now in my opinion. That being said, picking the right machine depends on the specific work you want to do with it and your budget. Send me an email at the email address on my channel about page with some info about the specific work you want to do and your budget and I can give some specific recommendations for your situation.

  • @gyulakiss420
    @gyulakiss420 2 місяці тому

    Hello ! Why MIG/MAG maschine good to alu weld and TIG DC no? Please write me

  • @michaelnoyes4817
    @michaelnoyes4817 3 місяці тому

    did you change the liner when going from alloy to steel?

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, it’s a graphite line used just for aluminum. I actually keep a second gun setup for it.

  • @lagunafishing
    @lagunafishing 2 місяці тому

    Wow I didn't know you could tig without filler!

  • @rorydottin7143
    @rorydottin7143 3 місяці тому

    Good info.. can you reveal the aluminum mig torch brand and part number if possible???

    • @ZILAwelds
      @ZILAwelds 3 місяці тому

      26080 that is the partnumber

    • @rorydottin7143
      @rorydottin7143 2 місяці тому

      Thanks much.. keep up the great info... ​@@ZILAwelds

  • @rorydottin7143
    @rorydottin7143 2 місяці тому

    Hi Tim.. can the 26080 aluminum mig gun work on the Miller Multimatic 215 mig gun port connections? Are they the same connectors?

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  2 місяці тому

      This gun has a euro connector, which is different than the 215. Usaweld does have a gun that will fit and a liner for it or you can get a teflon or graphite liner for your stock gun and change that out. Just make sure the liner you get is compatible with the collet on the gun you’re going to use it with.

    • @rorydottin7143
      @rorydottin7143 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the great info Tim.

  • @patrickmuhwheeney6518
    @patrickmuhwheeney6518 3 місяці тому

    Hi! I have been binge watching your channel, and wanted to : 1. Thank you for the content, and 2. Try to mooch some information. I was gifted an S7 Tig Welder, HF TIG/Stick/Arc Welders,200 Amp 110/220V welding unit, and I am super keen to try to learn at least a little about this art. The unit, however, came with a very sparse and difficult to read translated (sort of) Chinese manual. It has an amperage knob, which I understand, and then a knob which goes from 0.1S to 6S. I thought originally this was a welding wire speed adjustment, but the unit has no
    spooler or motor, so I was a bit confused. (I ignorantly bought a spooler motor and two types of wire before I realized my mistake). The welder also has two toggle switches, one for Arc-Tig
    and the other says 2T and 4T.... What do these switches do? I've scoured the web to find out, but it's amazingly difficult to get answers. I realize you have a lot of subs, and therefore not a lot of time, but any help you could offer would help greatly. Thanks

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  3 місяці тому +2

      The knob is probably post flow, the amount of time when you’re TIG welding that gas will keep flowing after you stop the arc. This allows the argon gas to continue to protect your electrode and your weld while it cools down so it doesn’t get contaminated by the oxygen in the air. I’d just leave it turned all the way up at 6 seconds. 2T means that the welder will be on when the trigger is pressed and turn off when it is released. 4T means you press and release the trigger to start the arc and it will be on until you press and release it again. All of those will only apply to TIG welding in the TIG mode. When you’re in ARC mode, it will be on all the time for stick welding.

    • @patrickmuhwheeney6518
      @patrickmuhwheeney6518 3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for replying, you're kind to do so!

  • @Jasson13rd
    @Jasson13rd 3 місяці тому

    What type of wire did you run when welding with mig gun? Also on the spool-gun, please you’ll be making me a huge favor🙏🏻 and thank you, you actually did a great job, hopefully this can help me to finally fix my car, but I don’t know which type of wire I should use, im not sure how I would work on it. I’ll appreciate your guys help if anyone else knows

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  3 місяці тому +1

      .035” 4043 is what I usually use. You can also run 5356 filler on a lot of alloys, which generally runs a bit colder and is dirtier but can help on thin aluminum.

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  3 місяці тому

      .035” 4043 is what I usually use. You can also run 5356 filler on a lot of alloys, which generally runs a bit colder and is dirtier but can help on thin aluminum.

    • @Jasson13rd
      @Jasson13rd 3 місяці тому

      @@TimWelds thank you so much Tim!!! you’re a life saver and a really great guy. I own you one

    • @ZILAwelds
      @ZILAwelds 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Jasson13rdI doubt that you can fix your car with a spool gun …. MiG aluminum is always a spray arc …. That means with a spool gun and without pulse you are limited to material thicknesses of .100” and thicker …. Auto motive stuff is typically less than half that thickness…

    • @Jasson13rd
      @Jasson13rd 3 місяці тому

      @@ZILAwelds in my case what would you recommend me to try to weld my car with? I’m still not sure, and I was already looking for spool gun on the market place

  • @ramirogalvez6392
    @ramirogalvez6392 Місяць тому

    What’s the mig gun you use for aluminum Tim?

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  Місяць тому

      It’s a 26 series gun with a graphite liner from HTP usaweld. They have some compatibility info on their website or you can call and ask them.

    • @ramirogalvez6392
      @ramirogalvez6392 Місяць тому

      @@TimWelds thanks man

  • @driftinso
    @driftinso 3 місяці тому

    What brand is your welding rig? I see it says made in Italy.

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  3 місяці тому +2

      It’s from HTP. They’re great machines.

  • @MyTubeSVp
    @MyTubeSVp 3 місяці тому

    Is the MIG welding done on DC or AC?

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  3 місяці тому

      DC Electrode Positive. 👍

    • @MyTubeSVp
      @MyTubeSVp 3 місяці тому

      @@TimWelds Thanks, I should give that a try then …

  • @nightheron714
    @nightheron714 3 місяці тому

    Seems like TIG has considerably less smoke and sparks, compared to MIG as well.

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  3 місяці тому

      Definitely. Aluminum MIG makes a fair amount of fume.

  • @edwicks
    @edwicks 3 місяці тому

    I turned my hat backwards there , for sure !

  • @mfx1
    @mfx1 3 місяці тому

    Why does your welder have a huge US flag logo on the side and why does HTP (USAweld) market it as an American product when it clearly says "Made in Italy" on the front?

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  3 місяці тому

      I don’t know why they chose those graphics, but it works great and they’re very clear about where it’s made.

    • @machinis
      @machinis 2 місяці тому

      Dual citizenship.

  • @claytonanning8906
    @claytonanning8906 Місяць тому

    Lol dude doesn't know he's doing mag not MiG lmfao

    • @TimWelds
      @TimWelds  Місяць тому

      It's really a trivial distinction, but this truly is MIG and not MAG because with aluminum the shielding gas is straight argon.